**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 10 02:59:57 2010 Oct 10 06:40:04 moin Oct 10 06:49:24 pespin: yeah, image is quite broken... I see the same things too Oct 10 06:49:29 JaMa|Zzz: moin Oct 10 06:49:39 JaMa|Zzz: my nokia900 build from scratch failed at libgee-native Oct 10 06:49:49 | gee/Makefile.am:95: HAVE_INTROSPECTION does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL Oct 10 06:49:57 wasn't that fixed? Oct 10 06:51:05 mrmoku: what if you build gobject-introspection-native first? Oct 10 06:51:43 ah you probably did as DEPENDS is really simple now Oct 10 06:52:04 then don't know, haven't seen this one Oct 10 06:53:34 JaMa: hmm... I have no native gobject-instrospection Oct 10 06:53:58 * mrmoku trying to build that manually first Oct 10 06:55:57 moin! i am leaving #907 open for anyone since my freerunner is kinda broken (plus i have nit been using it for months) well to be honest i generally dont have the time to fiddle with it anymore... Oct 10 06:56:31 it is a trivial fix anyways Oct 10 07:00:19 * mrmoku looks up what #907 is Oct 10 07:01:04 JaMa: ok Oct 10 07:01:06 err Oct 10 07:01:08 JesusMcCloud-lt: ok Oct 10 07:01:42 just adjust offset and maybe move it some layers up/down or something... Oct 10 07:06:49 btw how are the ports ti other hardware progressing? i heard the core team got some n900s to mess around with Oct 10 07:38:03 mickeyl: any known issues with dbus-1.4? we're still using 1.3.1 version... Oct 10 07:47:05 JaMa|Away: after gobject-instropection-native all fine with libgee-native Oct 10 07:50:44 mrmoku: [oe] DEPENDS not honored: `do_configure` runs before thread.. Oct 10 07:50:54 heh, ok Oct 10 08:24:11 JaMa|Away: next one failing is atk Oct 10 08:25:23 atk build fine for me 12h ago Oct 10 08:26:10 http://shr.pastebin.com/pyy0VMRN Oct 10 08:26:36 Heinervdm: building from scratch? Oct 10 08:26:41 yes Oct 10 08:27:05 * mrmoku tries cleaning / rebuilding Oct 10 08:29:27 failed again Oct 10 08:39:15 mrmoku: same here, playya said something about it yesterday here Oct 10 08:47:08 * mrmoku greps logs Oct 10 08:49:18 08-10-2010 16:47:21 < playya_!~playya@unaffiliated/playya: JaMa, i think you need a --enable-introspect=no for pango, gtk+, atk, python-pygobject Oct 10 08:49:23 08-10-2010 17:30:17 < playya_!~playya@unaffiliated/playya: or you can fix the whole gobject-introspection, but i think you only need the .gir file from native Oct 10 08:50:02 Heinervdm: so why does it build for you ? :P Oct 10 08:50:23 :) Oct 10 08:50:25 no idea Oct 10 08:53:44 my new microSD card is mounted in shr-t as read only. /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/card type vfat (ro,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1) .why is that? Oct 10 08:55:10 chomwitt: what mounted it? Oct 10 08:55:22 mickeyl: hi Oct 10 08:55:32 Did you think about this? http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/8/84/Fsoarch.png Oct 10 08:55:40 we could also make an fsocouchd Oct 10 08:55:41 lindi-: i guess kernel mount it automatically on start up. Oct 10 08:55:52 chomwitt: kernel? Oct 10 08:56:17 [Rui]: what do you think about an fsocouchd Oct 10 08:56:24 which uses sqlite as backend Oct 10 08:56:27 ? Oct 10 08:56:50 lindi-: dmesg gives: FAT: Filesystem panic (dev mmcblk0p1) . fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0). File system has been set read-only Oct 10 08:57:00 [Rui]: an opensource variant of the couchone Oct 10 08:57:02 lindi-: shr-testing's kernel. Oct 10 08:57:09 chomwitt: yeah kernel makes it read-only Oct 10 08:57:19 chomwitt: I was just wondering what mounts it in the first place Oct 10 08:59:28 mrmoku: i flashed yesterdays image and i got 2 colums of icons Oct 10 08:59:41 and the icons are double as big as usal Oct 10 09:02:48 yup, have that too... new efl regression Oct 10 09:24:49 <[Rui]> leviathan: sounds neat! Oct 10 09:26:24 [Rui]: we would also need the rest of the services implement (if not yet done) Oct 10 09:27:20 [Rui]: we need a lightweight networkmanager Oct 10 09:27:41 which switches between umts/gprs/wifi Oct 10 09:27:47 in respect of other services Oct 10 09:28:15 <[Rui]> leviathan: yeah, I've thought about doing that with the gadgets (by making a new one) Oct 10 09:28:40 hmm Oct 10 09:28:46 would be cooler to have it on the bus Oct 10 09:28:55 and a gadget just as frontend Oct 10 09:29:06 <[Rui]> 'swhat I meant :) Oct 10 09:29:07 like network-manager on desktops Oct 10 09:29:18 and e.g. plasma network-manager Oct 10 09:29:22 as frontend Oct 10 09:29:23 :-) Oct 10 09:29:39 then it can communicate on the bus Oct 10 09:29:48 with e.g. fsosyncd Oct 10 09:29:55 respectively fsocouchd Oct 10 09:36:05 * mrmoku makes a note to revisit connman Oct 10 11:46:32 i just flashed shr-unstable 20101002 unfortunately wlan, gps and usb-networking does not work, is this a known problem? Oct 10 13:11:57 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07opimd-utils * rffcb388ade04 10/ (opimd-config setup.py): Remove opimd-config, it's no longer needed Oct 10 13:12:08 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07opimd-utils * r81cfb22a6262 10/opimd-contacts: Merge branch 'master' of git.shr-project.org:opimd-utils Oct 10 13:39:53 JaMa|Away: I'd say lets go for dbus 1.4.x, there are various bugs fixed Oct 10 13:51:48 mickeyl: ok, I have recipe for it already built Oct 10 13:52:02 cool Oct 10 15:14:52 mickeyl, do you plan to do some n900 work like battery handling and/or modem+gps? Oct 10 15:14:56 hi btw Oct 10 15:16:41 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r1e31de65c1ba 10/ (34 files in 4 dirs): Oct 10 15:16:42 freesmartphone.org: msmcomm: replace most value defines with enumerations Oct 10 15:16:42 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch Oct 10 15:19:58 GNUtoo|laptop, you pinged me last night Oct 10 15:20:10 heyho Oct 10 15:20:21 hi morphis playya_ Oct 10 15:20:34 do you have issues with gtk apps and/or vala terminal on palm-pre Oct 10 15:20:35 ? Oct 10 15:20:35 moin morphis Oct 10 15:20:55 i have an issue with building an shr image for the pre :( Oct 10 15:21:26 atm I'm working on a working recipe for gobject-introspection Oct 10 15:23:58 gobject-introspection is already there Oct 10 15:24:11 and I have this problem too Oct 10 15:24:12 yes. but it doesn't build Oct 10 15:24:24 jepp Oct 10 15:24:31 how can i get the native bindir? Oct 10 15:24:51 i think i should provide a fix for that soon Oct 10 15:25:04 as far as I know is the problem that gobject-introspection does not work very well with cross build environments Oct 10 15:25:24 yep Oct 10 15:25:57 i builds a lib and tries to load it from a python script Oct 10 15:26:01 do we need gobject-introspection for something? Oct 10 15:26:09 gee 0.6.0 Oct 10 15:26:14 hm ok Oct 10 15:26:16 and python-pygobject Oct 10 15:26:22 maybe the best way currently is Oct 10 15:26:39 or maybe not Oct 10 15:27:45 we should disable gobject introspection per default, or not? Oct 10 15:29:46 it's not possible for pygobject Oct 10 15:30:05 ok Oct 10 15:30:07 i already disabled it for gtk+, pango, ... Oct 10 15:35:22 hm ok Oct 10 15:37:39 then I will do the same Oct 10 15:37:52 or do you already submitted patches for that? Oct 10 15:38:11 nope Oct 10 15:38:35 you need to add --enable-introspection=no to EXTRA_OECONF Oct 10 15:40:25 or --disable-introspection Oct 10 16:02:49 GNUtoo|laptop: yeah, for sure, although i have to say that i will do more work for portindependent things Oct 10 16:03:02 GNUtoo|laptop: right now I'm preparing for the big gdbus move Oct 10 16:03:10 ok Oct 10 16:03:11 nice Oct 10 16:03:20 after that i plan to do some n900 stuff Oct 10 16:03:24 ok Oct 10 16:03:39 * GNUtoo|laptop is trying enjoy, a good illume music player Oct 10 16:03:54 hard to install Oct 10 16:04:04 but at the end I bet it will be better than intone Oct 10 16:04:37 * mickeyl can only dream about UI-work, nothing in sight for long Oct 10 17:25:08 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * re817da910418 10/src/vala-dbus-binding-tool.vala: Oct 10 17:25:08 freesmartphone.org: add command line argument --gdbus. This will emit code that uses gio-2.0 Oct 10 17:25:08 freesmartphone.org: instead of dbus(-glib). Oct 10 17:25:20 this was step 1 of many Oct 10 17:37:07 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r3d6345c6594e 10/configure.ac: post-release version bump Oct 10 17:38:26 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * r2729be7c82a6 10/ (configure.ac src/Makefile.am): Oct 10 17:38:27 freesmartphone.org: support building code that uses gdbus instead of dbus(-glib). Oct 10 17:38:27 freesmartphone.org: activate with --enable-gdbus Oct 10 17:38:30 this was step 2 of many Oct 10 17:39:14 the rest has to be done in a gdbus branch Oct 10 18:08:31 Goood day all , what app should be installed that we can install .jad/.jar files on SHR ? Oct 10 18:08:49 <[Rui]> say what? Oct 10 18:10:49 [Rui]: are you with me ? Oct 10 18:11:14 <[Rui]> yah Oct 10 18:11:29 isn't question clear ? Oct 10 18:12:17 if I understand alabd, he wants run java applets/mini-games/software Oct 10 18:13:24 yes Oct 10 18:19:19 playya_: please post your introspection patches to oe-devel thread [oe] Inclusion of `gobject-introspection` breaks several packages. Oct 10 18:19:53 playya_: I guess many people are now trying to add it to EXTRA_OECONF :) Oct 10 18:22:38 hehe... people like me :P Oct 10 18:25:40 <[Rui]> alabd: java foo.jar ? Oct 10 18:26:39 [Rui]: -sh: java: not found Oct 10 18:26:39 of course i-humble want a thing not from sun Oct 10 18:29:16 <[Rui]> alabd: well, you'll have to install some java vm :) Oct 10 18:29:36 alabd: there are openjdk packages built in shr-u Oct 10 18:29:37 would you guide more Oct 10 18:29:50 JaMa: no don't want openjdk Oct 10 18:29:55 <[Rui]> alabd: ?? Oct 10 18:30:07 then jamvm, cacaoh Oct 10 18:30:56 for .jad you can find phoneme-advanced-foundation in shr-t (doesn't built with newer gcc in shr-u for armv4t) Oct 10 18:31:59 JaMa: how to install JamVM on SHR Oct 10 18:32:26 enjoy which use emotion is great Oct 10 18:34:39 <[Rui]> alabd: opkg install cacao Oct 10 18:34:52 <[Rui]> you may have to do opkg update before, if you haven't already. Oct 10 18:37:16 [Rui]: no cacao wants openjdk also > Cacao is a GPL Java-Virtual-Machine(JVM) which uses Just-In-Time(JIT) compilation combined either with Icedtea/OpenJDK or http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java Oct 10 18:37:44 <[Rui]> alabd: forgive my curiosity, but what's your problem with openjdk? Oct 10 18:38:10 [Rui], I don't know the current status but last time that I looked: Oct 10 18:38:11 let don't talk about it here it is offtopic Oct 10 18:38:15 *shark didn't work well Oct 10 18:38:23 *jit either Oct 10 18:38:29 and software was slow Oct 10 18:38:35 or maybe shark worked Oct 10 18:38:38 and not jut Oct 10 18:38:41 *jit Oct 10 18:38:46 I don't remember well Oct 10 18:38:47 now how to install jamVM on SHR Oct 10 18:38:56 alabd, with opkg Oct 10 18:39:09 opkg list | grep cacao Oct 10 18:48:20 GNUtoo|laptop: jamVM not cacao Oct 10 18:48:28 [Rui]: * opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package jamVM. Oct 10 18:48:46 <[Rui]> alabd: I didn't find jam either Oct 10 18:49:02 any opinion ? Oct 10 18:50:06 <[Rui]> only that java programs probably aren't what you want to run in this device :) Oct 10 18:50:15 hmmm does someone have an SHR that uses the official feeds Oct 10 18:50:39 [Rui]: what do you mena Oct 10 18:51:06 <[Rui]> alabd: java is slow enough by itself, and this device isn't the fastest allaround Oct 10 18:51:25 indeed Oct 10 18:51:36 but that depends a lot on the java implementation Oct 10 18:51:44 alabd, do you know jalimo? Oct 10 18:51:50 a lit Oct 10 18:52:03 will check it now Oct 10 18:52:46 [Rui]: what is VM or JDK ? Oct 10 18:53:58 alabd, you seem a bit confused, we are all too, we should check some infos on different java etc... Oct 10 18:54:23 http://wiki.openembedded.org/index.php/Java#Q:_I_do_get_all_these_editions.2C_configurations_and_profiles_that_exist_in_the_Java_world_wrong._Any_pointer_on_this.3F Oct 10 18:54:26 i-humble want install .jar application Oct 10 18:54:32 ok we understood that Oct 10 18:54:37 what's the jar application? Oct 10 18:54:46 because there are different profiles for java: Oct 10 18:54:50 java SE Oct 10 18:54:54 i-humble know what is ME and SE in java Oct 10 18:54:55 the one that runs on your computer Oct 10 18:55:01 ok Oct 10 18:55:06 so do you need ME or SE? Oct 10 18:55:22 this http://www.brothersoft.com/mobile/google-maps-for-mobile-4530.html Oct 10 18:56:17 ok Oct 10 18:56:23 me or se ? Oct 10 18:56:55 me Oct 10 18:56:58 or android Oct 10 18:57:04 because there are both options Oct 10 18:57:24 for now we select ME Oct 10 18:57:27 ok Oct 10 18:57:29 indeed Oct 10 18:57:31 me for now Oct 10 18:57:40 so.... Oct 10 18:57:51 I know several me implementations Oct 10 18:57:54 some are on top of se Oct 10 18:57:58 some no Oct 10 18:58:00 I'll look Oct 10 18:58:03 midpath Oct 10 18:58:07 phoneme-advanced-foundation ? Oct 10 18:58:10 and there was another Oct 10 18:58:21 also Oct 10 18:58:27 the one for remuco Oct 10 18:58:37 there is also the JaMa told about Oct 10 18:58:44 which is used by buglabs Oct 10 18:58:57 MIDPath is a Java library which provides a MIDP2 implementation and can be used together with the CLDC version of the Cacao to provide an alternative implementation of CLDC/MIDP Oct 10 18:59:03 so it needs cacao ? Oct 10 18:59:14 cacao also needs oenjdk Oct 10 18:59:16 alabd, I think it can run with jamVM but I'm not sure Oct 10 18:59:43 alabd, maybe the best solution would be that I try Oct 10 18:59:57 but I would have to backup my microsd card first Oct 10 19:00:00 and to install a fresh SHR Oct 10 19:00:16 oh Oct 10 19:01:24 how about Microemu ? Oct 10 19:01:34 can it be installed on SHR Oct 10 19:03:10 alabd, do you really want it on SHR? Oct 10 19:03:19 because you could install android on your freerunner Oct 10 19:03:23 and run it from there Oct 10 19:03:42 have not memeory for android now Oct 10 19:03:59 we can use cacao with classpath instead of openjdk Oct 10 19:05:06 GNUtoo|laptop: Cacao is a GPL Java-Virtual-Machine(JVM) which uses Just-In-Time(JIT) compilation combined either with Icedtea/OpenJDK or Classpath. Oct 10 19:05:29 yes cacao is good Oct 10 19:05:36 if it has JIT use that Oct 10 19:05:41 because you want JIT Oct 10 19:05:44 else it would be too slow Oct 10 19:06:00 is it ME or SE ? Oct 10 19:06:02 I'll fetch my freerunner Oct 10 19:06:06 can run both Oct 10 19:06:24 you want ME Oct 10 19:06:35 GNUtoo|laptop: but cacao is SE Oct 10 19:06:43 no Oct 10 19:06:48 cacao is a virtual machine Oct 10 19:06:50 a JVM Oct 10 19:06:52 not classes Oct 10 19:06:58 if I understood well Oct 10 19:07:02 let me look Oct 10 19:07:05 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java Oct 10 19:07:16 see it is listed under SE Oct 10 19:07:55 one second Oct 10 19:07:56 let me look Oct 10 19:09:20 alabd, why do you really want it on SHR because even if we get it run, I'm unsure if theses java are linked to the freerunner's gps Oct 10 19:09:31 altough long time ago... Oct 10 19:09:41 I ran frozen-bubble for phones on the freerunner Oct 10 19:09:45 so it's definitely possible Oct 10 19:10:55 let me try Oct 10 19:10:57 Galaxy tab is freaking sick Oct 10 19:11:02 and it has phone capabilities Oct 10 19:11:08 (played with it today) Oct 10 19:11:15 we should really target tablet phones :) Oct 10 19:11:47 TAsn: hi how are you Oct 10 19:11:52 TAsn, tablet phones? you mean without keyboard? Oct 10 19:12:09 GNUtoo|laptop, I mean galaxy tab running shr Oct 10 19:12:12 fucking a! :P Oct 10 19:12:13 GNUtoo|laptop: cacao is SE Oct 10 19:12:21 alabd, I'm great, and yourself? Oct 10 19:12:24 alabd, I'll try Oct 10 19:12:28 thanks Oct 10 19:12:47 GNUtoo|laptop: if it is SE it is not usefull for us yes ? Oct 10 19:13:13 depends Oct 10 19:13:26 se can run phone stuff with on-top phone classes Oct 10 19:13:39 I'll try to make frozen bubble run Oct 10 19:13:49 TAsn: 1024x600... nice :P Oct 10 19:14:05 mrmoku, it also has a freaking awesome screen. Oct 10 19:14:08 (not just the res) Oct 10 19:14:15 it's supposed to be very scratch resistant Oct 10 19:14:47 and it freaking has phone capabilities!!~!! Oct 10 19:14:48 what type? Oct 10 19:14:54 what type of what? Oct 10 19:15:00 I've nexusone and it's good too Oct 10 19:15:00 capacitive or resistive? Oct 10 19:15:09 but only hardware-wise Oct 10 19:15:17 TAsn: can you use a stylus? Oct 10 19:15:30 mrmoku, capacitive Oct 10 19:15:35 mrmoku, only a special stylus Oct 10 19:15:39 of course. Oct 10 19:15:40 hmm Oct 10 19:15:56 only con: Oct 10 19:15:59 no usb-host Oct 10 19:16:01 WTFL?! Oct 10 19:16:10 TAsn: get us some dev devices... so that we can port SHR to it :P Oct 10 19:16:18 (and make usb-host work ;) Oct 10 19:16:34 no usb-host controller :( Oct 10 19:16:39 maybe through the special samsung jacj Oct 10 19:16:40 jack Oct 10 19:16:45 which could be as good. Oct 10 19:16:53 dev devices: I don't even have one :(((( Oct 10 19:17:15 btw does full hd Oct 10 19:17:18 :) Oct 10 19:17:21 nice Oct 10 19:17:55 Really is amazing. Oct 10 19:17:56 bbl. Oct 10 19:18:29 GNUtoo|laptop: i-humble tried installing jalimo but have this error http://pastebin.com/sMHSwVTz Oct 10 19:18:52 alabd, jalimo was merged in openembedded Oct 10 19:18:54 and so in SHR Oct 10 19:19:49 but how does jalimo run .jar files ? Oct 10 19:20:01 cacao is installed fine Oct 10 19:20:19 alabd, jalimo is a project to port all kinds of java to embedded systems Oct 10 19:21:21 JaMa, is there phoneme in shr? Oct 10 19:21:25 cacao and jamVM and class path are installed fine Oct 10 19:21:38 alabd, slow down I'm trying... Oct 10 19:21:48 I can't try and respond to every question at the same time Oct 10 19:22:21 are you trying to run j2me programs? Oct 10 19:22:54 GNUtoo|laptop: will come back some mins later Oct 10 19:23:08 ok Oct 10 19:23:14 alabd, is trying to Oct 10 19:23:31 lindi-: thanks yes running .jar files Oct 10 19:24:29 alabd: can you give me an example? Oct 10 19:26:44 lindi-, I think he tries to run a proprietary app that won't work anyway: http://www.brothersoft.com/mobile/google-maps-for-mobile-4530.html Oct 10 19:27:39 I bet it won't work because of the gps access Oct 10 19:33:24 alabd, http://code.google.com/p/microemu/wiki/Maemo Oct 10 19:34:09 also: Oct 10 19:34:10 MIDPath can be run on top of either PhoneME Advanced or a J2SE-like environment (JamVM/Cacao and GNU Classpath or any of the OpenJDK variants). If PhoneME is installed it is preferred. Oct 10 19:34:21 so install phoneme and midpath if they are in SHR Oct 10 19:34:26 else cross-compile them Oct 10 19:37:03 GNUtoo|laptop: phoneme should be in shr-t (doesn't build with gcc-4.5 on armv4t so it's not on gta shr-u) Oct 10 19:37:13 ahh ok Oct 10 19:50:52 news on the gtk+ issue: Oct 10 19:50:54 since this is 1.8.x it is most likely either sdl-ttf or pangocairo Oct 10 19:51:04 though i think the tooltip was already switched to pangocairo in 1.8.x Oct 10 19:51:07 so... Oct 10 19:51:18 or it's ttf or it's pango Oct 10 19:54:47 GNUtoo|laptop: since the issue does happen in many gtk progs it is most likely pango/cairo Oct 10 19:54:52 so it's pango/cairo Oct 10 19:55:28 * mrmoku checks for changes in pango Oct 10 19:58:15 GNUtoo|laptop: what was result ? Oct 10 19:58:29 alabd, I abandoned Oct 10 19:58:36 as there was no phoneme in SHR-u Oct 10 19:59:10 how about in SHR-t ? Oct 10 20:00:05 why we need phoneme at all ? Oct 10 20:00:44 mrmoku, it's pango Oct 10 20:00:47 try that: Oct 10 20:01:19 pango-view --font="Verdana 24" --markup --text 'wesnoth is great.' Oct 10 20:01:27 alabd, because it would be faster Oct 10 20:01:51 alabd, why do you need to run this app, and why on SHR in the first place? Oct 10 20:02:10 `not only that ap p Oct 10 20:02:25 others .jar files maybe required Oct 10 20:02:32 ok Oct 10 20:02:53 cacao was in SE lsit Oct 10 20:03:08 so it wont help yes? Oct 10 20:04:35 maybe ask in #jalimo Oct 10 20:04:38 I'm very tired Oct 10 20:05:11 how to run .jar with jalimo? Oct 10 20:05:33 GNUtoo|laptop: ok Oct 10 20:05:47 GNUtoo|laptop: at least we know where to look at now... great :) Oct 10 20:05:53 indeed Oct 10 20:07:10 JaMa: hello,i have again a problem building the gobject-introspection receipe Oct 10 20:07:22 basically it seem to work Oct 10 20:07:35 but only if you linebreak a lot of times Oct 10 20:07:44 so maybe it's just shifted? Oct 10 20:07:52 and as thei're in a container Oct 10 20:07:56 it doesn't work well Oct 10 20:08:19 alabd, there is also a #midpath channel if I remember well Oct 10 20:08:56 no Oct 10 20:08:57 ah the midpath channel is dead Oct 10 20:09:02 it existed before Oct 10 20:09:08 it seem that midpath has been abandoned Oct 10 20:09:17 so try microemu on top of phoneme then Oct 10 20:09:57 what is phoneme? Oct 10 20:10:18 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhoneME Oct 10 20:11:03 cacao .jar command is true Oct 10 20:11:06 ? Oct 10 20:11:35 also have this error with midpath http://pastebin.com/7nKSLQ9w Oct 10 20:14:08 somebody with a booted FR around? Oct 10 20:14:49 yes Oct 10 20:15:48 alabd: nvm... already booting mine :) Oct 10 20:16:54 mine also booted Oct 10 20:17:20 my is in stand by Oct 10 20:18:23 hmmm Oct 10 20:18:26 I wonder Oct 10 20:18:30 ? Oct 10 20:18:37 maybe it's that the fonts are too big Oct 10 20:18:42 and you see only part of it Oct 10 20:18:48 for instance in xchat Oct 10 20:19:01 fonts are bigger in the server selection Oct 10 20:19:12 JaMa, nschle85, alabd: thanks :) already got output from pango-querymodules Oct 10 20:19:15 alabd: are you trying to run proprietary software like GNUtoo|laptop suspected? Oct 10 20:19:48 GNUtoo|laptop: pango-querymodules gives the same on gta02 and n900 Oct 10 20:19:52 mrmoku: i have a differnt problem, after update the image does not build Oct 10 20:19:52 with one difference though Oct 10 20:19:54 .jar lindi- Oct 10 20:20:07 it's free Oct 10 20:20:09 GNUtoo|laptop: on gta02 /usr/lib/pango/1.6.0/modules/pango-basic-x.so comes first Oct 10 20:20:12 alabd: can you give me a link? Oct 10 20:20:18 mrmoku: gobject-introspection_0.9.10.b failed to compile Oct 10 20:20:23 GNUtoo|laptop: on n900 /usr/lib/pango/1.6.0/modules/pango-basic-fc.so is first Oct 10 20:20:27 nschle85: log? Oct 10 20:20:31 http://www.brothersoft.com/mobile/google-maps-for-mobile-download-4530.html Oct 10 20:20:42 but others are on my hard Oct 10 20:20:48 mrmoku: just a moment Oct 10 20:21:04 downloading google maps for offline usage is non-legal Oct 10 20:22:36 mrmoku, ok Oct 10 20:22:56 alabd: that looks a lot like proprietary software. Oct 10 20:23:01 alabd: what do you mean by "free"? Oct 10 20:23:22 License / Price: Freeware / Free Oct 10 20:23:31 http://www.brothersoft.com/mobile/google-maps-for-mobile-4530.html Oct 10 20:23:40 alabd, plz read "google maps license" Oct 10 20:23:48 not some program which do itю Oct 10 20:24:02 max_posedon_: see link Oct 10 20:24:10 app is made by google Oct 10 20:25:05 mrmoku: the logfile is attached http://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1212 Oct 10 20:25:22 software made by google with link which doesn't ends with "google.com"? I don't belive Oct 10 20:25:27 GNUtoo|laptop: exchanging the module order makes no difference though Oct 10 20:25:48 mrmoku, try to remove it Oct 10 20:25:55 you'll see something spectacular: Oct 10 20:25:58 only some [] Oct 10 20:26:01 but right size Oct 10 20:26:17 alabd: where's the source code? Oct 10 20:32:27 GNUtoo|laptop: heh Oct 10 20:32:29 GNUtoo|laptop: pango-view --backend=xft /var/log/fsodeviced.log Oct 10 20:32:31 works nice Oct 10 20:32:36 it's the cairo backend Oct 10 20:33:16 nschle85: ImportError: /home/nschle85/shr-build/shr-unstable/tmp/work/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/gobject-introspection-0.9.10-r0/gobject-introspection-0.9.10/giscanner/.libs/_giscanner.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Oct 10 20:33:23 alabd: I suggest you read http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Oct 10 20:34:22 lindi-: knwo it before Oct 10 20:34:34 mrmoku: can you fix it ? Oct 10 20:34:53 told you i-humble want to know how tu run .jar file on shr Oct 10 20:35:04 not knowing other things Oct 10 20:36:05 nschle85: no Oct 10 20:36:11 nschle85: it built fine for me Oct 10 20:37:24 alabd: I suspect http://www.brothersoft.com/mobile/google-maps-for-mobile-download-4530.html is proprietary software Oct 10 20:37:46 lindi-: ok is or isn't Oct 10 20:37:51 is that answer of Oct 10 20:38:01 how tu run .jar file on shr Oct 10 20:38:05 ? Oct 10 20:38:38 alabd: ? Oct 10 20:38:57 to* Oct 10 20:39:44 alabd: if you need this for running proprietary software then i'm not interested in helping Oct 10 20:40:11 no i-humble need it for all my .jar files not only that one Oct 10 20:40:24 alabd: where do you get those jar files? Oct 10 20:41:08 mrmoku, ok Oct 10 20:42:06 mrmoku, how can you switch all gtk apps to xft Oct 10 20:42:07 ? Oct 10 20:42:11 lindi-: they are free Oct 10 20:42:17 GNUtoo|laptop: I'm googling to find out :) Oct 10 20:42:17 alabd: where's the source? Oct 10 20:42:24 alabd, free can means 2 things: Oct 10 20:42:33 *free as in cost Oct 10 20:42:37 *free as in freedom Oct 10 20:42:43 lindi-: if you can not trust leave this topic i-humble don't want guide from you Oct 10 20:42:46 we are not talking about free as in cost Oct 10 20:42:50 but free as in freedom Oct 10 20:42:59 GNUtoo|laptop: yes i-humble know these things Oct 10 20:43:03 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software Oct 10 20:43:04 ok Oct 10 20:43:16 i need the source to compile it and test if I can run it Oct 10 20:43:22 but main question is how to run .jar file on shr nothing else Oct 10 20:43:39 to test that one needs a .jar file :) Oct 10 20:43:41 <[Rui]> alabd: cocoa fubar.jar doesn't work? Oct 10 20:43:59 lindi-: some .jar files don't have copyright Oct 10 20:44:05 and are free Oct 10 20:44:20 but not opensource Oct 10 20:44:23 alabd, hmm not having copyright means no copyright notice? Oct 10 20:44:27 only .jar Oct 10 20:44:37 GNUtoo|laptop: yes Oct 10 20:44:46 [Rui]: yes that gives error Oct 10 20:44:48 because copyright law is clear: by default all things that doesn't give you premission to modify,copy etc... Oct 10 20:44:50 alabd: if they are not open source then they probably are not free software either Oct 10 20:44:51 <[Rui]> alabd: jar doesn't exist long enough to not have any copyright anymore, so if they don't have a statement, then they're 100% proprietary. (c) all rights reserved Oct 10 20:45:19 and without something that tells you that you can modify copy etc....it's not free Oct 10 20:45:20 <[Rui]> alabd: you have to check the instructions of those jars to see if they implement a main() or other method Oct 10 20:45:53 <[Rui]> alabd: but the way to do it under shr is the same way to do it under ubuntu or fedora, provided you install a jvm Oct 10 20:46:10 <[Rui]> alabd: if your doubt is about using a jvm in GNU/Linux then this may not be the best channel for that. Oct 10 20:46:37 mrmoku, note that I bet that cairo is armv7-neon obtimized Oct 10 20:46:43 maybe khem's patches? Oct 10 20:47:10 GNUtoo|laptop: hmm... good question Oct 10 20:47:23 I'll check in #oe Oct 10 20:47:28 [Rui]: you know for FR we need ME and for laptop/desktop we need SE Oct 10 20:47:34 here is the differences Oct 10 20:47:42 <[Rui]> alabd: no, that's on the proprietary world :) Oct 10 20:48:10 really ?would you explain more ? Oct 10 20:48:24 <[Rui]> opkg install openjdk Oct 10 20:48:41 <[Rui]> java fubar.jar Oct 10 20:49:02 [Rui]: told before i-humble don't want openjdk Oct 10 20:49:04 <[Rui]> or whatever the instructions of that java program is Oct 10 20:49:09 i-humble have installed cacao Oct 10 20:49:10 but Oct 10 20:49:13 root@om-gta02 ~ $ cacao Quran.jar Oct 10 20:49:13 cacao: resolve.c:399: resolve_classref_or_classinfo: Assertion `c->state & 0x0002' failed. Oct 10 20:49:13 Aborted Oct 10 20:49:26 <[Rui]> that looks like a missing class. Oct 10 20:49:55 http://pastebin.com/WLbfkrq8 Oct 10 20:50:04 <[Rui]> but why wouldn't you install openjdk? It's not the same as SUN/Oracle's java which has export restrictions, this one doesn't have such. Oct 10 20:50:27 <[Rui]> so since there's nobody forbidding you to run it, it's not immoral for you to run it. Oct 10 20:50:35 maybe it is cause of this error while installing jalimo > http://pastebin.com/sMHSwVTz Oct 10 20:50:57 [Rui]: openjdk has also Oct 10 20:50:58 <[Rui]> is that the issue? At least I remember another user in the past to have similar problems, albeit not with OpenJDK. Oct 10 20:52:02 see part e here http://openjdk.java.net/legal/terms.html Oct 10 20:52:03 <[Rui]> alabd: no such software is Free Software :) Oct 10 20:52:40 <[Rui]> alabd: that is an oracle site, I don't care much for that. Oct 10 20:53:43 anyway it's better we zoom in jalimo errors Oct 10 20:53:44 <[Rui]> alabd: I'm installing Fedora's openjdk (faster for me) so I'll let you know in a minute Oct 10 20:54:18 this error http://pastebin.com/sMHSwVTz Oct 10 20:54:21 <[Rui]> alabd: the openjdk that is in the distributions is not the same as that from Oracle. Oct 10 20:54:37 really how ? Oct 10 20:55:08 <[Rui]> alabd: you can just do: opkg install openjdk-6-jdk Oct 10 20:55:26 [Rui]: how openjdk that is in the distributions is not the same as that from Oracle. ? Oct 10 20:56:05 <[Rui]> alabd: because it doesn't include the proprietary tidbits, they've been replaced by Free Software ones. Oct 10 20:56:31 <[Rui]> license in Fedora is GPLv2 (with exceptions to allow running non-gpl compatible softwares) Oct 10 20:57:26 <[Rui]> opkg info openjdk-6-jdk Oct 10 20:57:28 [Rui]: it is export prohibition is it related to free / not free ? Oct 10 20:57:43 <[Rui]> yes, it's a license issue. if it's there, it's non-free Oct 10 20:58:02 <[Rui]> this openjdk is different than that from Oracle. Oct 10 20:58:30 <[Rui]> alabad: do this command and check it out yourself: opkg info openjdk-6-jdk Oct 10 21:04:31 JaMa, i try to fix gobject introspection ^^ Oct 10 21:08:49 [Rui]:whom is openjdk made by Oct 10 21:09:29 <[Rui]> alabd: you know, it shows that you're not following the info obtained by that opkg command :) Oct 10 21:10:32 <[Rui]> alabd: this openjdk version is GPLv2 That means that no additional restrictions may be applied (like export restrictions, for instance). Oct 10 21:21:50 <[Rui]> alabd: in addition, that Oracle URL say contents *may* be. Not *are*. I suppose the elements that have it are some of those whichhave been entirely replaced, eg in GNU ClassPath. Oct 10 21:23:05 [Rui]: are you sure that export restrictions won't applied on free softwares ? Oct 10 21:23:23 <[Rui]> alabd: for sure not on GPL'ed Free Software. Oct 10 21:23:54 opkg info openjdk-6-jdk Oct 10 21:23:55 shows nothing for me Oct 10 21:24:04 shr-t? Oct 10 21:24:11 yes Oct 10 21:24:23 as I said before openjdk is available only in shr-u Oct 10 21:24:40 didn't see Oct 10 21:30:32 export GDK_USE_XFT=1 Oct 10 21:30:35 I'll try that Oct 10 21:31:48 hmmm didn't change a thing Oct 10 21:40:07 [Rui]: http://openjdk.java.net/legal/terms.html says You agree not to submit any Encryption Technology to this Site Oct 10 21:40:24 we should talk in pm [Rui] Oct 10 21:53:57 GNUtoo|laptop, did you try enjoy in SHR? :) Oct 10 21:54:07 pespin, yes Oct 10 21:54:09 and it's great Oct 10 21:54:14 but use a bit too much cpu Oct 10 21:54:29 and was hard to setup Oct 10 21:56:14 GNUtoo|laptop, by cpu you mean itself feel slow, other apps feel really slow, or when using other apps sound was borked due to cpu usage? Oct 10 21:56:17 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|laptop: why hard? Oct 10 21:56:39 you had to scan manually the songs Oct 10 21:56:42 and it failed Oct 10 21:56:49 so I had to figure out how to make it works Oct 10 21:56:53 *work Oct 10 21:57:06 you have to manually use a test app from lightmediascanner Oct 10 21:57:14 to create and fill the db Oct 10 21:57:23 yes Oct 10 21:57:33 but It didn't work in mutithread moed Oct 10 21:57:35 *mode Oct 10 21:57:46 the test app? Oct 10 21:58:02 http://scap.linuxtogo.org/ Oct 10 21:58:04 I'll go Oct 10 21:58:05 yes Oct 10 21:58:07 the test app Oct 10 21:58:16 -m mono Oct 10 21:58:19 I had to use that Oct 10 21:58:47 GNUtoo|laptop, could you answer about cpu usage before going? :P Oct 10 21:58:53 it's better in portrait but a lot slower Oct 10 21:58:59 it uses a lot of cpu Oct 10 21:59:07 using gstreamer backend? Oct 10 21:59:11 yes Oct 10 21:59:16 <[Rui]> xine I think Oct 10 21:59:24 [Rui], it has both available Oct 10 21:59:46 <[Rui]> I never looked, just by k-s's talk on irc Oct 10 21:59:55 I'll go Oct 10 22:00:00 I need to sleep **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Oct 11 02:59:57 2010