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Oct 23 06:47:46 <[Rui]> morning
Oct 23 06:47:49 <[Rui]> vanous: hi
Oct 23 07:00:44 <[Rui]> TAsn: yay «Your parcel has been sent and we will mark the tracking number later on Paypal.»
Oct 23 07:00:56 <JaMa|Zzzz> 9moin
Oct 23 07:07:13 <vanous> [Rui]: morning
Oct 23 08:16:16 <JaMa> spank! *** glibc detected *** vala-dbus-binding-tool: free(): invalid pointer: 0x000000000133ec48 ***
Oct 23 08:29:07 <[Rui]> ouch :)
Oct 23 09:22:23 <TAsn> [Rui], :)
Oct 23 09:31:57 <daniele_athome> morning
Oct 23 09:32:26 <[Rui]> daniele_athome: hiya!
Oct 23 09:32:31 <daniele_athome> :)
Oct 23 09:33:00 <JaMa> libfso-glib now built ok (with vala-dbus-binding-tool) it was because I had libxml2 built with debug enabled :/
Oct 23 09:33:22 <[Rui]> NOTE: Running task 416 of 3966 (ID: 1379, /media/devdisk/openmoko/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/python/python-native_2.6.5.bb, do_package_stage) (sigh)
Oct 23 09:34:08 <JaMa> [Rui]: when did you start rebuilding?
Oct 23 09:34:37 <[Rui]> JaMa: just a bit ago, following a make update and rm -rf shr-unstable/tmp :)
Oct 23 09:34:37 <JaMa> after http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=e0eabdaf077633c9df5e05be51d847bc8d66a64b rebuild from scratch is recommended
Oct 23 09:35:21 <[Rui]> JaMa: thanks for the warning anyway...
Oct 23 09:35:48 <[Rui]> but as I never got a bb -k shr-lite-image to finish ok, I now usually only do bb -k elmdentica :)
Oct 23 09:36:01 <JaMa> np, better to restart rebuilding sooner than later :)
Oct 23 09:36:31 <JaMa> htcdream feed.. NOTE: Running task 3796 of 17413 
Oct 23 09:36:59 <[Rui]> but I'll soon need to have something finish the build completely if I want to work with TAsn on the tablet edition ;)
Oct 23 09:37:59 <JaMa> my rebuild from scratch goes ok sofar :)
Oct 23 09:38:16 <JaMa> except that vala-dbus-binding issue (which is only local)
Oct 23 09:40:33 <[Rui]> is anyone else noticing a (sometimes too) long delay updating the clock when resuming in shr-u?
Oct 23 10:04:18 <daniele_athome> morning TAsn :P
Oct 23 10:04:26 <daniele_athome> did you rest? 
Oct 23 10:04:39 <daniele_athome> anyway how was your last night?
Oct 23 10:05:14 <TAsn> last night: ok.
Oct 23 10:05:17 <TAsn> rest: mostly.
Oct 23 10:05:36 <TAsn> will I review the patch today: surely, but tonight, not now, it's only noon and I have stuff to do :P
Oct 23 10:05:44 <TAsn> daniele_athome, btw, most importantly, good morning to you too.
Oct 23 10:05:59 <daniele_athome> TAsn, :)
Oct 23 10:10:20 <[Rui]> circa 25% down... NOTE: Running task 920 of 3966 (ID: 3734, virtual:native:/media/devdisk/openmoko/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/xcb/libxcb_1.6.bb, do_install)
Oct 23 10:21:41 <CIA-47> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07libphone-ui-shr * r4f7a80cfc3fe 10/src/util/ (ui-utils-contacts.c ui-utils.c): replace elm_list_horizontal_mode_set with elm_list_mode_set needs elementary 53407 or newer
Oct 23 10:22:52 <JaMa> time for EFL bump or fixing libphone-ui-shr SRCREV
Oct 23 10:23:34 <[Rui]> yay
Oct 23 10:24:52 <[Rui]> otoh... bummer I'll have to rebuild image again :)
Oct 23 10:25:22 <TAsn> JaMa, bump is a good idea
Oct 23 10:25:28 <TAsn> JaMa, as release is almost out.
Oct 23 10:25:39 <JaMa> EFL_SRCREV ?= "53804"
Oct 23 10:25:41 <TAsn> so almost everything is already there.
Oct 23 10:25:50 <JaMa> is what I'm currently testing
Oct 23 10:26:05 <TAsn> sounds reasonable
Oct 23 10:26:13 <TAsn> it is the latest afterall.
Oct 23 10:26:29 <JaMa> TAsn: well released images doesn't have old rev too :) EFL_SRCREV ?= "53489"
Oct 23 10:27:03 <TAsn> that's 300 commits backwards :|
Oct 23 10:27:12 <TAsn> Think about what could have changed :)
Oct 23 10:27:20 <TAsn> (probably just docs, but maybe not)
Oct 23 10:28:01 <[Rui]> 53802 is post some fixes I made on elmdentica so it's got my vote! :)
Oct 23 10:28:09 <[Rui]> 53804 I mean
Oct 23 10:28:24 <TAsn> HUH?!
Oct 23 10:28:38 <TAsn> elmdentica is tied to everything else in EFL_SRCREV?!
Oct 23 10:29:00 <TAsn> EFL_SRCREV should be only for EFL :)
Oct 23 10:29:15 <TAsn> it's like making all the GTK apps depend on GTK version
Oct 23 10:29:19 <JaMa> TAsn: I'm reading commit log pretty often and nothing "must have" in last 300 commits..
Oct 23 10:29:33 <TAsn> JaMa, yeah, because we already passed alpha.
Oct 23 10:29:33 <JaMa> also nothing which looks like "big 1 column" icons fix
Oct 23 10:30:00 <[Rui]> JaMa: I now get two columns with small size
Oct 23 10:30:14 <JaMa> and on my phone I have currently 53735, which is only 70 commits old :)
Oct 23 10:30:39 <JaMa> [Rui]: I have it with lite, but one column with full image (I guess it depends on icons count)
Oct 23 10:31:12 <[Rui]> JaMa: I have another guess: label length
Oct 23 10:32:50 <JaMa> also possible, sure, when I first got 1 column I've reported that labels were shortened before, but someone else said they weren't so I forgot that idea..
Oct 23 10:33:23 <[Rui]> I was already suspecting that because on custom view it seems to be that.
Oct 23 10:33:49 <[Rui]> JaMa: I guess I could install vagalume in my lite image thus testing that theory as vagalume has one of the biggest labels
Oct 23 10:33:54 <JaMa> can you please call: grep ^Version: sysroots/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/pkgconfig/elementary.pc
Oct 23 10:33:59 <JaMa> if you have it built already?
Oct 23 10:34:38 <JaMa> sometimes I got Version: 0.7.0.0 which is bad and sometimes Version: 0.7.0.${EFL_SRCREV} which is good
Oct 23 10:34:49 <[Rui]> JaMa: I doubt it's already built... :) NOTE: Running task 1076 of 3966 (ID: 3403, virtual:native:/media/devdisk/openmoko/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/xorg-lib/libx11_1.3.99.902.bb, do_compile)
Oct 23 10:35:12 <[Rui]> and I will soon leave and probably only come back after dinner :(
Oct 23 10:35:37 * JaMa is leaving too now
Oct 23 10:35:54 <[Rui]> if you wait just a few seconds more you'll know about my theory's test
Oct 23 10:36:42 <[Rui]> urgh more deps than I expected...
Oct 23 10:37:12 <[Rui]> any reason for not including gif support in evas? (IIRC the patents issue is gone)
Oct 23 10:37:30 <JaMa> I guess no..
Oct 23 10:37:51 <[Rui]> perhaps just not a dependency on libgif (or something) then...
Oct 23 10:37:59 <JaMa> there are many patches for efl recipes from profusion.mobi now (on oe-devel ML)
Oct 23 10:38:11 <[Rui]> I was using om-neon to look at a collection of Penuts I have when I found out I needed to convert them all to png
Oct 23 10:38:14 <JaMa> but gif support is not one of them
Oct 23 10:38:36 <[Rui]> JaMa: I think it's only a matter of the required library not being available at build time
Oct 23 10:39:18 <JaMa> so do I.. so missing it in DEPENDS :)
Oct 23 10:40:27 <[Rui]> ok :) I found it weird that evas-loader-svg was in and gif not (as it seems it's horribly slow) :)
Oct 23 10:41:53 <[Rui]> bingo, as soon as vagalume was installed I got one column with the small icon size
Oct 23 10:42:07 <[Rui]> gotta go now
Oct 23 10:42:26 <[Rui]> removing for reverse test... and bingo again
Oct 23 10:42:32 <[Rui]> two columns now
Oct 23 10:42:38 <[Rui]> so here's a good clue
Oct 23 10:42:45 <JaMa> you mean uninstalled right?
Oct 23 10:42:49 <[Rui]> elipsis must not be working on some edc part
Oct 23 10:42:51 <[Rui]> JaMa: yeah
Oct 23 10:43:06 <[Rui]> or missing
Oct 23 10:43:12 <[Rui]> gotta go. off
Oct 23 11:32:35 <vanous> so i have seen Radek's email about the ts jitter filter from Gennady
Oct 23 11:32:50 <vanous> is it anything what we can use in SHR?
Oct 23 11:44:25 <vanous> as the jitter is not so great for user experience
Oct 23 11:53:54 <Heinervdm> vanous: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=ae3bc32a49b8e6221916d4fab3efd86723544a83
Oct 23 12:19:11 <vanous> Heinervdm: so we have it already?
Oct 23 12:19:13 <vanous> cool
Oct 23 12:19:20 <daniele_athome> Heinervdm, dos1: hello
Oct 23 12:19:21 * vanous needs to upgrade now
Oct 23 12:19:28 <daniele_athome> i've sent something to ML about notifications
Oct 23 12:19:34 <daniele_athome> you might be interested
Oct 23 12:19:39 <daniele_athome> hi vanous 
Oct 23 12:20:07 <daniele_athome> http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-devel/2010-October/003270.html
Oct 23 12:21:06 <Heinervdm> vanous: i don't know if it's already built
Oct 23 12:21:23 <Heinervdm> daniele_athome: ok, i will look at it
Oct 23 12:21:53 <vanous> daniele_athome: hi
Oct 23 12:22:52 <vanous> have missed your email, but see it now
Oct 23 12:24:37 <vanous> have also just found ML conversation about the jitter patch 
Oct 23 12:25:09 <vanous> i just catching up now
Oct 23 13:08:55 <pespin> leviathan_, hey, thinking about sync and similr stuff, I thought it would be a good idea do something like a "SHR phonesuit" client for the computer, which would f.i. speak over usb0 tcp protocol with the "SHR phonesuit server", which would call dbus methods in the phone and whatever we need necesary.
Oct 23 13:17:11 <DocScrutinizer> ~moo
Oct 23 13:17:12 * apt mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass
Oct 23 13:18:12 <TAsn> wth :|
Oct 23 13:18:46 <DocScrutinizer> ~trout TAsn 
Oct 23 13:18:46 * apt slaps TAsn around a bit with a large trout!
Oct 23 13:19:29 <TAsn> that's also crazy, but at least craziness I'm long familiar with.
Oct 23 13:30:07 <daniele_athome> pespin, indeed would be a good idea :)
Oct 23 13:30:14 <daniele_athome> an opimd desktop-side interface
Oct 23 13:30:23 <daniele_athome> connecting remotely e.g. through dbus
Oct 23 13:30:34 <daniele_athome> i will plan something on python soon :)
Oct 23 13:40:09 <pespin> daniele_athome, yes, I was thinking something like nokia suit
Oct 23 13:40:18 <pespin> but better, of course jeje
Oct 23 14:07:38 <vanous> pespin: like tcp dbus proxy? http://blog.shr-project.org/2010/05/howto-develop-and-debug-the-shr-phone-stack-on-your-desktop.html 
Oct 23 14:23:04 <pespin> vanous, but that has a problem. You have to stop dbus services you want in you computer.
Oct 23 14:24:21 <pespin> vanous, I think it would be better to have some service bridge which sends dbus methods/signals over tcp
Oct 23 14:25:36 <pespin> you send the message info such as service, path, method + arguments over tcp (in a syntax similar to what you'd use with mdbus2 perhaps), and this service graps the info and calls the corresponing dbus service in SHR
Oct 23 14:27:25 <pespin> vanous, for sercurity, it woul by default only listen in usb networking (you could change this in config if you want) and it would be stopped by default. We could enable it in shr-settings with a toggle like ("Enable phonesuit mode")
Oct 23 14:28:07 <pespin> and of course it could have some kind of authentication you would be asked from in client and which would be passed to server
Oct 23 14:31:15 <pespin> vanous, the approach in shr blog is ok for developing, but not handy for end users.
Oct 23 14:52:45 <dos1> mrmoku: http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/patch/785/
Oct 23 15:05:18 <morphis> heyho
Oct 23 15:11:38 <vanous> pespin: agree
Oct 23 15:13:42 <pespin> vanous, great. theory is good, but I don't have time neither experience to do this in a good fashion hehe
Oct 23 15:13:54 <pespin> daniele_athome, do you agree on what's been said¿?
Oct 23 15:15:45 <vanous> sorry, /me got to go outside now
Oct 23 16:47:56 <TAsn> omg, maybe nokia does have a future! http://www.reuters.com/article/idCNLDE65N14720100624?rpc=44
Oct 23 16:48:54 <dos1> yup, N9 will be first wieh MeeGo
Oct 23 17:36:15 <nschle85> | cc1: warnings being treated as errors
Oct 23 17:36:15 <nschle85> | util/ui-utils.c: In function 'ui_utils_view_inwin_list':
Oct 23 17:36:15 <nschle85> | util/ui-utils.c:529:2: error: implicit declaration of function 'elm_list_mode_set'
Oct 23 17:36:41 <nschle85> cannot compile libphone-ui-shr
Oct 23 17:44:31 <TAsn> nschle85, I think you need to upgrade efl
Oct 23 17:44:52 <nschle85> TAsn: i think also :-)
Oct 23 17:48:13 <nschle85> TAsn: on my build server i have another strange problem: http://norman-schleicher.de/hudson/job/shr-unstable-image-clean-build/63/console
Oct 23 18:18:26 <TAsn> nschle85, no idea mate, I'm in the middle of a work-out and friends are coming in like 10mins
Oct 23 18:18:30 <TAsn> so I'm pretty busy :)
Oct 23 18:18:47 <TAsn> nschle85, furthermore, I don't know much about OE.
Oct 23 18:18:54 <TAsn> nschle85, and you have experts here.
Oct 23 18:18:56 <TAsn> so :)
Oct 23 18:19:07 <nschle85> TAsn: no problem, thank you for your response
Oct 23 18:47:59 <nschle85> TAsn: found a workaround for my problem on buildserver: bitbake gobject-introspection-native
Oct 23 19:05:40 <DocScrutinizer> TAsn: the only crazy thing about ~moo is the "twice as much as you" part - WTF? do they think I am? A walrus?
Oct 23 20:17:44 <creeper__> upgrading my shr-u. let's see what that brings :O
Oct 23 20:54:15 <creeper__> the good news: it's still booting. but i have quite big symbols on the desktop now..
Oct 23 21:36:48 <daniele_athome> pespin, for testing my apps i use a simple socat call to link a listening tcp port to the dbus unix socket
Oct 23 21:37:04 <daniele_athome> then i modify environment variables passed to my apps to make them use that port
Oct 23 21:37:06 <daniele_athome> as dbus port
Oct 23 21:37:15 <daniele_athome> i think such an approach is good and should be used
Oct 23 22:16:42 <leviathan_> JaMa: uhm, hi
Oct 23 22:16:46 <leviathan_> following thing
Oct 23 22:16:58 <leviathan_> I tried now the recent shr-u image
Oct 23 22:17:17 <leviathan_> and why does any app I try to start segfault again? O_o
Oct 23 22:17:38 <leviathan_> seems to be an error in the build
Oct 23 22:17:48 <leviathan_> perhaps rebuild it cleanly might help...
Oct 23 22:17:59 <leviathan_> oops
Oct 23 22:18:00 <leviathan_> forgot
Oct 23 22:18:02 <leviathan_> htcdream
Oct 23 22:18:17 <leviathan_> shr-u for om-gta02 seems to work
Oct 23 22:18:19 <leviathan_> well
Oct 23 22:18:29 <leviathan_> I seem to send all sms twice...
Oct 23 22:18:31 <leviathan_> xD
Oct 23 22:25:51 <leviathan_> JaMa: fixed it for eve
Oct 23 22:26:00 <leviathan_> but vala-term
Oct 23 22:26:03 <leviathan_> segfaults
Oct 23 22:26:09 <leviathan_> there are some deps missing
Oct 23 22:26:16 <leviathan_> guess I'll trace it
Oct 23 22:26:36 <leviathan_> my head is still too much attacked by this cold 
Oct 23 22:26:37 <leviathan_> ...
Oct 23 22:26:49 <leviathan_> I won't make a full critism like this
Oct 23 23:06:00 <[Rui]> larsc: lindi-: hey, Linux guys... :) I'm getting system freezes when wifi is up with 2.6.34.7 on the Freerunner
Oct 23 23:07:00 <misc> ie, wifi is up ?
Oct 23 23:15:40 <daniele_athome> me too
Oct 23 23:15:48 <daniele_athome> a few freezes in the last 2 days
Oct 23 23:15:50 <daniele_athome> (
Oct 23 23:15:51 <daniele_athome> :(
Oct 23 23:18:06 <[Rui]> misc: I turn wifi on, and in a short while (seconds? minute? couple of minutes?) which varies a bit I get a freeze.
Oct 23 23:19:38 <misc> [Rui]: I assume no log ? you are using wifi, or just turning it on ? 
Oct 23 23:20:31 <[Rui]> misc: I still have to get rid of var/log in a volatile space, but yeah, no log. however it's been happening *allways* to me.
Oct 23 23:29:39 <daniele_athome> [Rui], to me it happened with wif off
Oct 23 23:30:09 <daniele_athome> i try to keep count of them, iirc 3 times now since 2.6.34 upgrade
Oct 23 23:30:47 <daniele_athome> s/wif/wifi/
Oct 23 23:30:55 <[Rui]> I've only  had them with wifi
Oct 23 23:30:57 <[Rui]> BUT
Oct 23 23:31:17 <[Rui]> I've also been unable to resume once or twice from suspend while gprs was on.
Oct 24 00:15:10 <[Rui]> JaMa: ping? elmdentica is DEPENDS on sqlite3-native (doesn't compile here, with that). fixed it locally by using sqlite3
Oct 24 00:25:55 <[Rui]> I'm also getting this: 
Oct 24 00:25:58 <[Rui]> root@om-gta02 ~ # elmdentica 
Oct 24 00:25:58 <[Rui]> ERR<293>:edje edje_module.c:50 edje_module_load() Could not find the module elm
Oct 24 01:13:13 <[Rui]> JaMa: it seems /usr/lib/edje/elm.so is somehow missing in shr-u images
Oct 24 01:18:54 <[Rui]> JaMa: or better yet, /usr/lib/edje/modules/elm/.../module.so
Oct 24 01:21:00 <[Rui]> elementary should have installed that
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