**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 02 02:59:57 2010
Nov 02 07:26:38 <TAsn> mrmoku, failed :P
Nov 02 07:26:44 <TAsn> I'll be needing your help later.
Nov 02 07:26:46 <TAsn> ciao.
Nov 02 08:24:35 <lindi-> currently linux stops the watchdog before it enters suspend and enables it on resume. would it be completely crazy to do this in the boot loader instead? (I'm suspecting #2324 is caused by something hanging during suspend/resume)
Nov 02 08:48:55 <mrmoku> JaMa: ok, on the third try I actually managed to dd it correctly :P
Nov 02 08:49:02 <mrmoku> and meego is not slow...
Nov 02 08:49:06 <mrmoku> it's unusable ;)
Nov 02 08:50:37 <mrmoku> still a lot of work for them too
Nov 02 09:22:13 <JaMa|Zzz> mrmoku: yes, unusable slow, bugs bunny on 0.01 fps was hard to quit :)
Nov 02 09:31:47 <mrmoku> hehe
Nov 02 09:38:11 <daniele_athome> morning all!!! :)
Nov 02 09:39:44 <mrmoku> daniele_athome: morning
Nov 02 09:41:29 <JaMa> moin
Nov 02 11:57:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi, yesterday the internet connection was cut, maybe because of weather conditions, and now I'm on a neighbourg's connection until it get resolved
Nov 02 11:58:52 <GNUtoo|laptop> so I'll push what I did today
Nov 02 11:58:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> that is to say a git kernel for n900
Nov 02 11:59:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> no recipe yet
Nov 02 12:00:29 <GNUtoo|laptop> I did also a bit of battery work
Nov 02 13:53:39 <paulk_> Hi! I'm on Hackable:1 rev5 and I'd like to disable neod for one moment
Nov 02 13:53:53 <paulk_> could someone tell me how I could do that ?
Nov 02 13:54:07 <misc> mhh kill :)
Nov 02 13:54:31 <paulk_> well, i already tried that but each time I kill neod, a new neod comes a few seconds later
Nov 02 13:54:42 <paulk_> that's annoying
Nov 02 13:55:11 <misc> uninstall it ?
Nov 02 13:55:37 <paulk_> I don't want to remove it from my system, just to disable it for one moment!
Nov 02 13:56:30 <misc> paulk_: mv the binary ?
Nov 02 13:56:45 <paulk_> I guess that's the only solution… 
Nov 02 13:56:54 <paulk_> Thanks misc ;)
Nov 02 14:56:54 <[Rui]> TAsn: THE EFFIN IDJITS!
Nov 02 14:57:08 <[Rui]> TAsn: they didn't write down the postal code in the parcel, and now it's being returned.
Nov 02 14:57:36 <[Rui]> TAsn: and they sent me the tracking number too late to go to the post office distribution office and pick it up.
Nov 02 15:07:13 <mrmoku> [Rui]: heh
Nov 02 15:07:41 * mrmoku wonders if it is really *that* difficult to send international parcels around :/
Nov 02 15:14:20 <[Rui]> mrmoku: it's 100% harder when the address is incomplete and they don't send the tracking # in time for me to fix it
Nov 02 15:39:28 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll push everything when I come back from sports
Nov 02 16:23:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi mickeyl 
Nov 02 16:24:22 <GNUtoo|laptop> yesterday the internet was cut because of bad weather, I did kernel hacking anyway, and now it's not back yet(open wifi AP->eeepc->ethernet-cable->x86 computer wich does AP)
Nov 02 16:24:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> I've not tested my batteries changes
Nov 02 16:24:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> should I push anyway
Nov 02 16:24:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> ?
Nov 02 16:24:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> they compile fine
Nov 02 16:24:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> but I must find a way not to open-close the cover for kenrel hacking
Nov 02 16:25:13 <GNUtoo|laptop> else it'll damage the phone if I keep doing it
Nov 02 16:31:59 <vanous> rhk
Nov 02 16:32:02 <vanous> sorry
Nov 02 16:32:11 <vanous> wrong window :)
Nov 02 16:37:55 <vanous> GNUtoo|laptop: spent 2,5 hours practicing wesnoth on my flight :)
Nov 02 16:38:12 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Nov 02 16:38:15 <GNUtoo|laptop> was it great?
Nov 02 16:38:31 <GNUtoo|laptop> notice that it "illegal instruction" on the freerunner
Nov 02 16:40:00 <vanous> i have a toshiba tablet but still haven't tried wesnoth just with touch, am finding my ways around
Nov 02 16:43:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Nov 02 16:43:19 <GNUtoo|laptop> vanous, it's playable with no right click and no keyboard
Nov 02 16:43:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> altough --smallgui is really better than tinygui compile option
Nov 02 16:43:52 <vanous> will try
Nov 02 16:51:16 <gena2x> smallgui is too wide for freerunner :(
Nov 02 16:59:23 <vanous> GNUtoo|laptop: how do you move about without a mouse i mean, with a constant click of the touch?
Nov 02 16:59:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> vanous, that's simple
Nov 02 16:59:37 <vanous> throuch the small screen at the top?
Nov 02 16:59:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> top-right
Nov 02 16:59:41 <vanous> ok
Nov 02 16:59:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> has a map
Nov 02 17:00:02 <GNUtoo|laptop> you can even recruit at the place you want with left-click btw
Nov 02 17:00:13 <GNUtoo|laptop> simply left-click on the place you want 
Nov 02 17:00:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> and then recruit
Nov 02 17:00:20 <GNUtoo|laptop> with the top menu
Nov 02 17:01:49 <vanous> recruit at a place? wow, didn't know
Nov 02 17:01:50 <vanous> will try
Nov 02 17:45:03 <TAsn> mrmoku, ping.
Nov 02 18:09:15 <ChristW_> Hi all. I've ran into this error: http://pastebin.com/kgcczaaJ
Nov 02 18:09:47 <ChristW_> Is this a case of 'tar' not playing nice on me? I've seen 'similar' reports, but I'm using Ubuntu 10.10, so I thought the bug had been squashed.
Nov 02 18:14:16 <mrmoku> TAsn: pong
Nov 02 18:14:29 <TAsn> mrmoku, build is failing :P
Nov 02 18:14:48 <TAsn> I managed to force it to use 2.6.36 kernel instead of 2.6.28 it was trying
Nov 02 18:14:51 <mrmoku> TAsn: that's normal :P
Nov 02 18:15:09 <mrmoku> ok, where is it failing?
Nov 02 18:15:11 <TAsn> (hopefully it'll work without me needing to tweak the recipe telling it how to find out it's a smartq)
Nov 02 18:15:14 <TAsn> mrmoku, sec
Nov 02 18:15:20 <TAsn> disabled BB threading
Nov 02 18:15:24 <TAsn> to make sure.
Nov 02 18:15:29 <TAsn> I think it's python numeric
Nov 02 18:15:30 <TAsn> though
Nov 02 18:17:07 <TAsn> mrmoku, do you have issues with BB threading?
Nov 02 18:17:46 <TAsn> mrmoku, ok, it'll take time until it fails because without bb threading it has time till it gets to that recipe again.
Nov 02 18:17:46 <mrmoku> BB_NUMBER_THREADS = "2"
Nov 02 18:17:51 <mrmoku> without any problems
Nov 02 18:18:07 <TAsn> I tried 4.
Nov 02 18:18:15 <TAsn> well I'll wait for a moment.
Nov 02 18:18:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> ChristW_, mv the corrupted download and retry
Nov 02 18:18:30 <TAsn> ok compiling kernel :P
Nov 02 18:18:34 <TAsn> lets see
Nov 02 18:20:18 <TAsn> sweet, looks like kernel built.
Nov 02 18:20:24 <TAsn> I bet it won't run, but that's a start.
Nov 02 18:21:02 <TAsn> bah, more than a week old EFL
Nov 02 18:21:04 <TAsn> sucks :P
Nov 02 18:21:30 <TAsn> ERROR: Task 6075 (/home/tom/projects/openmoko/smartqv7-oe/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/python/python-numeric_24.2.bb, do_compile) failed with 256
Nov 02 18:21:32 <TAsn> sucky
Nov 02 18:21:35 <TAsn> looking for log, mmnt.
Nov 02 18:23:51 <TAsn> mrmoku, http://pastebin.com/CyNxM0N3
Nov 02 18:24:33 <TAsn> which makes sense
Nov 02 18:26:50 <TAsn> since it's trying to linux to an x86
Nov 02 18:27:00 <ChristW_> GNUtoo|laptop: I've deleted the file (maybe not the best thing to do?) and now I get: http://pastebin.com/nkerPCPX
Nov 02 18:27:14 <ChristW_> But, it _does_ continue???
Nov 02 18:27:25 <GNUtoo|laptop> ChanServ, did you delete the .md5sum too?
Nov 02 18:27:38 <ChristW_> Nope. Good call...
Nov 02 18:28:40 <TAsn> mrmoku, gone already? :(
Nov 02 18:31:53 <mrmoku> TAsn: no... had to do some house work :/
Nov 02 18:32:03 <TAsn> cool ;P
Nov 02 18:32:08 <TAsn> at least you are here now :)
Nov 02 18:32:16 <TAsn> well, any idea?
Nov 02 18:32:23 <TAsn> what am I missing/doing wrong?
Nov 02 18:32:30 <ChristW_> GNUtoo|laptop: task do_compile started. Nice!
Nov 02 18:32:38 <mrmoku> hmm... rebuild toolchain
Nov 02 18:32:54 <TAsn> how?
Nov 02 18:33:03 <mrmoku> did you have problems with gcc or eglibc?
Nov 02 18:33:10 <TAsn> not that I remember
Nov 02 18:33:14 <TAsn> just worked
Nov 02 18:33:17 <TAsn> up until this crap.
Nov 02 18:33:32 <mrmoku> TAsn: jama has a nice alias for that :p
Nov 02 18:33:39 <mrmoku> let me check
Nov 02 18:33:43 <TAsn> well, jama is not here :)
Nov 02 18:33:45 <TAsn> thanks.
Nov 02 18:34:14 <TAsn> in the meanwhile
Nov 02 18:34:24 <TAsn> i'm building with -k
Nov 02 18:34:28 <TAsn> just to get some work done :)
Nov 02 18:37:54 <mrmoku> TAsn: lias clean_toolchain="for i in openembedded/recipes/gcc/gcc*4.5*bb openembedded/recipes/binutils/binutils*2.20.1*bb openembedded/recipes/eglibc/eglibc*2.12*; do bitbake -c clean -b \$i; done"
Nov 02 18:38:09 <mrmoku> s/lias/alias/
Nov 02 18:38:10 <apt> mrmoku meant: TAsn: alias clean_toolchain="for i in openembedded/recipes/gcc/gcc*4.5*bb openembedded/recipes/binutils/binutils*2.20.1*bb openembedded/recipes/eglibc/eglibc*2.12*; do bitbake -c clean -b \$i; done"
Nov 02 18:38:32 <TAsn> thanks
Nov 02 18:38:39 <TAsn> and how to build? just make shr-image?
Nov 02 18:39:13 <mrmoku> yup
Nov 02 18:40:02 <TAsn> ok trying again.
Nov 02 18:49:15 <TAsn> mrmoku, I don't think that'll work :P but ok :)
Nov 02 18:50:26 <TAsn> it just sounds like you are trying to postpone my bitching :P>
Nov 02 18:50:45 <TAsn> mrmoku, is it possible my host python3 is causing issues?
Nov 02 18:50:58 <mrmoku> sure
Nov 02 18:51:00 <TAsn> I manually seded bitbake with s/python/python2/
Nov 02 18:51:08 <TAsn> mrmoku, really?
Nov 02 18:51:29 <TAsn> ERROR: Build of /home/tom/projects/openmoko/smartqv7-oe/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/gcc/gcc-cross_4.5.bb do_patch failed
Nov 02 18:51:31 <mrmoku> or the glibc/gcc combo for that arch
Nov 02 18:51:32 <TAsn> ffs
Nov 02 18:51:42 <mrmoku> heh
Nov 02 18:51:44 <GNUtoo|laptop> ChristW_, nice
Nov 02 18:52:12 <TAsn> mrmoku, any ideas?
Nov 02 18:52:15 <mrmoku> TAsn: you could ask khem in #oe
Nov 02 18:52:24 <TAsn> yeah right... they never answer ;P
Nov 02 18:52:33 <mrmoku> he's the guru there
Nov 02 18:52:46 <mrmoku> nah, not always true
Nov 02 18:53:56 <mrmoku> TAsn: I might be more helpful when back to my laptop :/
Nov 02 18:54:02 <TAsn> :\
Nov 02 19:00:14 <TAsn> mrmoku, see? once you ask a meaningful question
Nov 02 19:00:16 <TAsn> i.e what you asked
Nov 02 19:00:19 <TAsn> they stfu :P
Nov 02 19:05:16 <mrmoku> TAsn: well. give him some time
Nov 02 19:09:55 <TAsn> mrmoku, still fails
Nov 02 19:09:59 <TAsn> even after ditching python
Nov 02 19:10:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> how do you remove the quiet at boot?
Nov 02 19:10:03 <TAsn> and now it even fails earlier
Nov 02 19:10:05 <GNUtoo|laptop> I want SHR boot messages
Nov 02 19:10:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> I looked in /etc/defaults/rcS
Nov 02 19:10:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> and changed verbose to yes
Nov 02 19:10:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> it's still not appearing
Nov 02 19:10:25 <TAsn> GNUtoo|laptop, look at the Qi config (if you are using qi)
Nov 02 19:10:34 <GNUtoo|laptop> it's under n900
Nov 02 19:10:37 <TAsn> oh
Nov 02 19:10:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> here's cat /proc/cmdline
Nov 02 19:10:45 <GNUtoo|laptop> snd-soc-rx51.hp_lim=42 snd-soc-tlv320aic3x.hp_dac_lim=6 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk1p1 rootdelay=10 panic=20
Nov 02 19:11:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> because my kenrel modifications makes SHR freeze during boot after the SHR logo
Nov 02 19:11:32 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'm working on battery
Nov 02 19:13:06 <TAsn> mrmoku, ffs
Nov 02 19:13:10 <TAsn> mrmoku, no logs on why it fails.
Nov 02 19:13:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> I've kernel hacking setup that is setup btw, I've a magnet, some tape etc...
Nov 02 19:14:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> I've still to flash with 0xffff
Nov 02 19:14:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> but still it works pretty well
Nov 02 19:16:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> ahh I get it
Nov 02 19:16:30 <GNUtoo|laptop> I miss framebuffer console
Nov 02 19:16:34 <GNUtoo|laptop> it can't work without that
Nov 02 19:21:27 <TAsn> mrmoku, looks like disabling BB threading fixes it. well, at least until the next break...
Nov 02 19:23:50 <mrmoku> ok
Nov 02 19:25:20 <von_fritz> TAsn have you solved /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so: file not recognized: File format not recognized?
Nov 02 19:31:10 <gena2x> hmmm. i can't understand this uart... before suspend it working after it does not. s3c registers are same (speed, port setup), GPS is powered on in PMU, but no uart interrupts and fifo is empty. Any ideas what i am missing?
Nov 02 19:34:57 <gena2x> i have to guess that gps got bad dreams while sleeping in suspend
Nov 02 19:37:13 <GNUtoo|laptop> mrmoku, we have console(no Xorg, real tty, framebuffer console) keymap?
Nov 02 19:37:30 <mrmoku> yup
Nov 02 19:37:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> nice
Nov 02 19:37:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll test and desactivate X
Nov 02 19:41:25 <von_fritz> why it goes dark after 1min, when booting SHR on N900?
Nov 02 19:43:34 <TAsn> von_fritz, didn't
Nov 02 19:43:40 <TAsn> von_fritz, it haven't gotten there again yet.
Nov 02 19:44:04 <dos1> von_fritz: there is bug with backlight support
Nov 02 19:44:21 <dos1> von_fritz: when fsodeviced sets only 0% or 100%, nothing between
Nov 02 19:44:43 <von_fritz> TAsn well i make softlinks to  ln -s /home/fritz/BUILD/FREERUNNER/shr-unstable/tmp/sysroots/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1
Nov 02 19:44:51 <dos1> von_fritz: there is bug with backlight support 80%, it actually turns off backlight (set brightness to 0)
Nov 02 19:45:03 <dos1> von_fritz: go to shr-settings and set backlight to 100%
Nov 02 19:45:08 <mrmoku> von_fritz: setting backlight to 100 in phonefsod.conf should help
Nov 02 19:45:44 <von_fritz> thanks mrmoku
Nov 02 19:45:45 <TAsn> von_fritz, that's bad :)
Nov 02 19:45:56 <von_fritz> i know but works
Nov 02 19:46:05 <von_fritz> :)
Nov 02 19:46:20 <TAsn> will try.
Nov 02 19:46:24 <von_fritz> only for compiling
Nov 02 19:46:30 <von_fritz> then i revert
Nov 02 19:49:02 <von_fritz> its possible that this issue is only with archlinux? have arch64bit on my buildhost
Nov 02 19:49:34 <TAsn> von_fritz, HA! same here.
Nov 02 19:49:46 <TAsn> so much evilness
Nov 02 19:49:51 <TAsn> maybe it's cause of python3?
Nov 02 19:51:58 <Q-Master> python3 is evil?
Nov 02 19:52:07 <TAsn> Q-Master, no
Nov 02 19:52:10 <TAsn> but making it default
Nov 02 19:52:14 <TAsn> prematurely
Nov 02 19:52:15 <TAsn> is 
Nov 02 19:53:01 <TAsn> von_fritz, doesn't work.
Nov 02 19:53:39 <TAsn> file already exists
Nov 02 19:54:09 <von_fritz> well first mv /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1_old
Nov 02 19:54:13 * Q-Master played with ardrone today... funny thing and very complicated and dumb SDK...
Nov 02 19:54:23 <TAsn> wait
Nov 02 19:54:26 <TAsn> move the ORIGINAL one?
Nov 02 19:54:31 <von_fritz> and the ln -s ;)
Nov 02 19:54:33 <TAsn> that's odd
Nov 02 19:54:44 <TAsn> tmp/sysroots/armv6-oe-linux-gnueabi/lib/libgcc_s.so.1: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped
Nov 02 19:54:49 <TAsn> /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped
Nov 02 19:54:52 <TAsn> so freaking lame.
Nov 02 19:55:13 <TAsn> mrmoku, is your build host 64 or 32 bit?
Nov 02 19:55:16 <von_fritz> its ugly, but for me it works
Nov 02 19:55:26 <von_fritz> 64bit
Nov 02 19:55:30 <mrmoku> TAsn: 64
Nov 02 19:55:40 <TAsn> von_fritz, problem is
Nov 02 19:55:44 <mrmoku> http://wiki.openembedded.org/index.php/OEandYourDistro#Arch_Linux_.28Duke.29
Nov 02 19:55:45 <TAsn> I do more stuff on this machine :P
Nov 02 19:56:21 <TAsn> mrmoku, did all of that.
Nov 02 19:57:36 <mrmoku> TAsn: you can do the same thing i'm doing
Nov 02 19:57:43 <TAsn> which is?
Nov 02 19:57:46 <mrmoku> and use jama's chroot
Nov 02 19:57:59 <TAsn> hm?
Nov 02 19:58:03 <TAsn> how?
Nov 02 19:58:32 <mrmoku> download it from his site
Nov 02 19:58:37 <mrmoku> don
Nov 02 19:58:51 <mrmoku> 't have the link right now
Nov 02 19:59:10 <TAsn> shitz :|
Nov 02 19:59:36 <TAsn> von_fritz, using your "fix" for the meanwhile.
Nov 02 20:01:36 <TAsn> I emailed jama
Nov 02 20:01:50 <TAsn> that's (and many other reasons)
Nov 02 20:01:54 <TAsn> why I like scratchbox
Nov 02 20:01:58 <TAsn> already in a chroot
Nov 02 20:04:15 <TAsn> mrmoku, another ping
Nov 02 20:05:20 <mrmoku> TAsn: now I'm back to my laptop :)
Nov 02 20:05:42 <TAsn> yay
Nov 02 20:05:43 <mrmoku> TAsn: JaMa's chroot contains a gentoo system
Nov 02 20:05:50 <TAsn> please gimme
Nov 02 20:05:53 <TAsn> von_fritz, your fix didn't work.
Nov 02 20:05:58 * mrmoku greps for the link
Nov 02 20:06:50 <TAsn> how much hassle is it?
Nov 02 20:06:55 <TAsn> (setting up the chroot env)
Nov 02 20:07:03 <TAsn> and btw
Nov 02 20:07:08 <von_fritz> TAsn I build only package that fails and then i revert
Nov 02 20:07:22 <TAsn> von_fritz, didn't build the one that fails
Nov 02 20:07:22 <TAsn> ...
Nov 02 20:08:46 <mrmoku> ~hail JaMa
Nov 02 20:08:47 * apt bows down to JaMa and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
Nov 02 20:08:49 <mrmoku> http://build.shr-project.org/tests/jama/chroot/
Nov 02 20:09:09 <mrmoku> TAsn: contains even a readme
Nov 02 20:09:21 <TAsn> haha cool
Nov 02 20:09:29 <TAsn> thanks.
Nov 02 20:09:34 <mrmoku> yw
Nov 02 20:10:19 <TAsn> su - ./OE-chroot.sh
Nov 02 20:10:19 <TAsn> su - bitbake
Nov 02 20:10:20 <TAsn> huh?
Nov 02 20:11:29 <mrmoku> TAsn: bitbake is the usse3r
Nov 02 20:11:31 <mrmoku> -3
Nov 02 20:12:08 <TAsn> yeah I get that
Nov 02 20:12:13 <TAsn> but TAsn> su - ./OE-chroot.sh
Nov 02 20:12:15 <TAsn> ?
Nov 02 20:12:22 <mrmoku> execute OE-chroot.sh as root?
Nov 02 20:12:37 <TAsn> su -c ./OE...
Nov 02 20:12:53 <TAsn> so I assume I can just remove my old env?
Nov 02 20:13:24 <mrmoku> I'm using JaMa's chroot since some problem in Fedora 13... don't remember which
Nov 02 20:13:29 <mrmoku> and it works great for me
Nov 02 20:13:30 <mrmoku> so, yes
Nov 02 20:14:26 <mrmoku> TAsn: what you still need is your oe.org checkout though
Nov 02 20:14:53 <TAsn> yeah
Nov 02 20:14:58 <TAsn> I'll let it run overnight.
Nov 02 20:16:01 <TAsn> mrmoku, did you leave all of his mounts?
Nov 02 20:16:14 <TAsn> mount -o bind /home/projects/mplayer/ OE/projects/mplayer
Nov 02 20:16:21 <TAsn> and whatever?
Nov 02 20:17:19 <Wonka> http://www.youtube.com/v/q3OuCR0EpGo - nice, but I want all the stuff I need on a command line, and also Umlauts.
Nov 02 20:22:07 <mrmoku> TAsn: no, those are from some projects he's compiling
Nov 02 20:22:11 <mrmoku> I adjusted to my needs
Nov 02 20:22:16 <TAsn> which were?
Nov 02 20:22:50 <TAsn> I assume I can take out the portage stuff
Nov 02 20:23:26 <TAsn> and I don't need all the temp
Nov 02 20:24:05 <TAsn> just left
Nov 02 20:24:12 <TAsn> mount -o bind $prefix/OE/ OE
Nov 02 20:24:15 <TAsn> and the generic
Nov 02 20:31:05 <TAsn> mrmoku, still issues, bah.
Nov 02 20:31:29 <TAsn> mrmoku, with the chroot this time
Nov 02 20:31:31 <TAsn> mind sending me your
Nov 02 20:31:36 <TAsn> OE-chroot.sh?
Nov 02 20:31:40 <TAsn> jama's looks broken as hell.
Nov 02 20:33:20 <TAsn> problems with permissions
Nov 02 20:33:24 <TAsn> had to change manually...
Nov 02 20:33:30 <TAsn> oh, hm..
Nov 02 20:33:37 <TAsn> extracted as user,not root.
Nov 02 20:33:55 <TAsn> JaMa, !
Nov 02 20:34:01 <TAsn> disregard my email :P
Nov 02 20:34:05 <TAsn> got what I needed from mrmoku 
Nov 02 20:34:11 <TAsn> I gtg now
Nov 02 20:34:58 <JaMa> ok :)
Nov 02 20:35:18 * JaMa already had link in clipboard after reading that e-mail :)
Nov 02 20:36:14 <TAsn> haha
Nov 02 20:36:21 <TAsn> JaMa, the readme looks broken btw
Nov 02 20:36:24 <TAsn> su - ./OE...
Nov 02 20:36:27 <TAsn> instead of -c
Nov 02 20:36:42 <TAsn> and OE dir
Nov 02 20:36:45 <TAsn> has bad permissions
Nov 02 20:37:18 <TAsn> anyhow, gtg
Nov 02 20:37:20 <TAsn> letting it build.
Nov 02 20:39:50 <JaMa> TAsn: there is missing ; between :)
Nov 02 22:01:52 <daniele_athome> it's incredibile
Nov 02 22:01:58 <daniele_athome> no decent twitter C library :S
Nov 02 22:17:14 <pespin> daniele_athome, you can look at elmdentica code :)
Nov 02 22:17:29 <daniele_athome> pespin, thanks i'll do that :)
Nov 02 22:17:36 <daniele_athome> pespin, what auth method are you using for twitter?
Nov 02 22:19:26 <pespin> daniele_athome, I don't have a twitter account hehe
Nov 02 22:19:43 <daniele_athome> pespin, ehm what did you write so?
Nov 02 22:20:35 <pespin> daniele_athome, elmdentica is not mine, it's [Riu] 's creation :)
Nov 02 22:20:40 <daniele_athome> ah
Nov 02 22:20:46 <daniele_athome> :)
Nov 02 22:20:58 <pespin> daniele_athome, it supports twitter and identi-ca
Nov 02 22:21:10 <daniele_athome> i see
Nov 02 22:22:08 <daniele_athome> pespin, twitter won't work
Nov 02 22:22:28 <daniele_athome> it's still using basic auth, which has been closed by twitter on august 12 2010
Nov 02 22:24:29 <pespin> daniele_athome, you better talk about that with [Riu], you can work togethe on that if you are interested :)
Nov 02 22:52:10 <TAsn> JaMa, oh, i.c
Nov 02 22:52:17 <TAsn> wth is wrong with bitbake that it's showing 
Nov 02 22:52:18 <TAsn> 102250K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 63%  311K 3m6s
Nov 02 22:52:18 <TAsn> 102300K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 63%  311K 3m6s
Nov 02 22:52:18 <TAsn> 102350K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 63%  309K 3m6s
Nov 02 22:52:18 <TAsn> 102400K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 63%  320K 3m6s
Nov 02 22:52:19 <TAsn> L
Nov 02 22:52:20 <TAsn> ?
Nov 02 22:52:28 <TAsn> instead of compacted?
Nov 02 22:53:23 <TAsn> [Rui], build is going further ;P
Nov 02 22:53:28 <TAsn> SHIT
Nov 02 22:53:30 <TAsn> oops
Nov 02 22:53:33 <TAsn> built arm4 :(
Nov 02 22:53:34 <[Rui]> TAsn: augh
Nov 02 22:53:42 <TAsn> what a freaking idiot
Nov 02 22:54:29 <[Rui]> TAsn: no, those are eletroworld.cn ;)
Nov 02 22:54:35 <TAsn> haha
Nov 02 22:54:38 <TAsn> did they answer youL
Nov 02 22:54:39 <TAsn> ?
Nov 02 22:54:54 <[Rui]> TAsn: well, it was afternoon here, so still middle of the night in China?
Nov 02 22:55:01 <daniele_athome> [Rui], hello
Nov 02 22:55:04 <daniele_athome> (hi TAsn9
Nov 02 22:55:05 <[Rui]> daniele_athome: hi!
Nov 02 22:55:05 <daniele_athome> *)
Nov 02 22:55:39 <daniele_athome> [Rui], you should check elmdentica twitter module
Nov 02 22:55:41 <[Rui]> meanwhile, I just got quite a thrill from The Walking Dead's first episode
Nov 02 22:55:51 <daniele_athome> it's using basic auth, which was closed by twitter some months ago
Nov 02 22:56:05 <[Rui]> daniele_athome: why, Twitter decided to be reasonable and openep up basic auth again?
Nov 02 22:56:13 <[Rui]> daniele_athome: I won't support a false security model
Nov 02 22:56:37 <daniele_athome> [Rui], no i just mean your app won't work  :D
Nov 02 22:56:38 <[Rui]> daniele_athome: for client apps oauth actually decreases security
Nov 02 22:56:49 <[Rui]> daniele_athome: works just fine, it's twitter which won't work anymore :)
Nov 02 22:57:07 <daniele_athome> [Rui], don't tell me, i'm debating with twitter support and in #twitterapi
Nov 02 23:00:14 <[Rui]> daniele_athome: basic auth is just as secure as any user/password method under https
Nov 02 23:00:30 <daniele_athome> i know [Rui] :)
Nov 02 23:01:02 <[Rui]> daniele_athome: oauth is just as spoofable as user/pass but adds an extremely complicated layer for no good gain (plus, they have already revoked Free Software apps keys quite a few times)
Nov 02 23:01:27 <daniele_athome> yes :(
Nov 02 23:03:25 <[Rui]> oauth is a good compromise, though, if you want to authorize cloud apps to do something on your behalf (better than user/password in those cases, as you can revoke per site and not all at once by changing a password)
Nov 02 23:08:10 <daniele_athome> uff :(
Nov 02 23:08:31 <daniele_athome> [Rui], the only good way would be to implement a "twitter api proxy" inside a server
Nov 02 23:08:34 <daniele_athome> where the keys are
Nov 02 23:08:45 <daniele_athome> and then authenticate users directly from my desktop app to my own server
Nov 02 23:08:49 <daniele_athome> acting as a proxy...
Nov 02 23:08:56 <daniele_athome> but this is ridicolous
Nov 02 23:10:35 <[Rui]> daniele_athome: I do something of the sort... but for now it's one way only :) identi.ca (an instance of the Free Software twitter-like social network StatusNet) has a forward to Twitter option.
Nov 02 23:10:59 <[Rui]> daniele_athome: when they upgrade to a more recent statusnet they will have two-way, it seems.
Nov 02 23:11:01 <daniele_athome> i see
Nov 02 23:15:39 <TAsn> ok
Nov 02 23:15:54 <TAsn> starting a build for the correct machine
Nov 02 23:21:16 <[Rui]> TAsn: great :)
Nov 02 23:23:44 <TAsn> sucks
Nov 02 23:23:46 <TAsn> would have been done
Nov 02 23:23:50 <TAsn> by now.
Nov 02 23:23:54 <TAsn> if I had the right one :P
Nov 02 23:26:45 <[Rui]> hehehe
Nov 02 23:27:04 <TAsn> hopefully will have it by tomorrow morning.
Nov 02 23:27:06 <TAsn> anyhow, night.
Nov 02 23:28:50 <[Rui]> TAsn: good night
Nov 02 23:36:52 <[Rui]> bad karma after update...
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