**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 05 02:59:58 2010
Nov 05 07:42:32 <Arigead> morning all
Nov 05 07:49:27 <JaMa|Zzz> moin
Nov 05 08:18:14 <Arigead> Did I miss something with respect to GSM Coverage in the top bar? used to be between the clock and the battery status. Gone on my shr-u build from earlier this week.
Nov 05 09:29:31 <[Rui]> morning all
Nov 05 09:30:27 <[Rui]> damn, I got the wrong window level for the idle screen, so now it's below the pager (and it's still affected by the keyboard resize)
Nov 05 09:56:36 <CIA-67> SHR: 03rms 07libphone-ui-shr * r0147518d7732 10/src/view/idle-view.c: Rasterman says that what needs doing in order to fix this idle screen window is to set override asap. Hopefully here will be fine.
Nov 05 09:56:47 <CIA-67> SHR: 03rms 07libphone-ui-shr * r5ae8262bbf3a 10/src/view/ (4 files): Merge branch 'master' of git+ssh://git.shr-project.org/libphone-ui-shr
Nov 05 10:35:29 <[Rui]> how are you guys doing localbuilds of libphone-ui and libphone-ui-shr?
Nov 05 10:36:21 <[Rui]> This is not working anymore in conf/local-builds.inc: 
Nov 05 10:36:21 <[Rui]> SRC_URI_pn-libphone-ui-shr = "file:///media/devdisk/git/libphone-ui-shr"
Nov 05 10:36:21 <[Rui]> SRCREV_pn-libphone-ui-shr = "LOCAL"
Nov 05 10:36:21 <[Rui]> SRCPV_pn-libphone-ui-shr = "LOCAL"
Nov 05 10:36:21 <[Rui]> S_pn-libphone-ui-shr = "${WORKDIR}/shr/${PN}"
Nov 05 10:37:54 <JaMa> [Rui]: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=libphone-ui.git;a=commit;h=10491ef224fad2682921b69e97c773d03cb09d62
Nov 05 10:38:54 <JaMa> [Rui]: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr-makefile.git;a=blobdiff;f=Makefile;h=d9ac80d6cedf5dc2bc5686a6048f6267f2c50e30;hp=086e5fb4f00df0201c7a8b046288cb83cb65582e;hb=efc097db2abccb6c47e7f19c8d99bb6bb84f891e;hpb=7fc9adc59b77bc64f81f1a5f70a7982aebcd42e9
Nov 05 10:42:02 <[Rui]> so I just use the new definitions in the second link?
Nov 05 10:43:40 <JaMa> [Rui]: yes, update your local-builds.inc and you're fine for libphone-ui-shr
Nov 05 10:44:17 <[Rui]> rebuilding cache... let's see if it works ok :)
Nov 05 10:44:22 <[Rui]> thanks
Nov 05 10:44:52 <JaMa> [Rui]: and the first one is example how to create recipe for elmdentica local builds, but you can use the same as libphone-ui-shr, depends what is more clear to you :)
Nov 05 10:45:07 <[Rui]> yeah, was thinking precisely of that
Nov 05 10:45:26 <[Rui]> :)
Nov 05 10:45:56 <[Rui]> however elmdentica is integrated in e's svn, so I don't know if that'll translate as easily
Nov 05 11:03:31 <TAsn> [Rui], well?
Nov 05 11:03:38 <TAsn> any progress?
Nov 05 11:03:43 <TAsn> I'm now trying to flash my image.
Nov 05 11:05:38 <TAsn> though no success
Nov 05 11:05:44 <TAsn> rootfs is not being flashed for some reason.
Nov 05 11:08:41 <[Rui]> not goot
Nov 05 11:08:48 <[Rui]> something wrong with display
Nov 05 11:11:49 <[Rui]> WTF? 
Nov 05 11:11:52 <[Rui]> usb 1-3.1: Product: RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget
Nov 05 11:11:52 <[Rui]> usb 1-3.1: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.34.7 with s3c2410_udc
Nov 05 11:11:52 <[Rui]> usb 1-3.1: rejected 2 configurations due to insufficient available bus power
Nov 05 11:11:52 <[Rui]> usb 1-3.1: no configuration chosen from 2 choices
Nov 05 11:15:46 <lindi-> [Rui]: sudo lsusb -vvv please
Nov 05 11:15:58 <[Rui]> yesterday night it was ok
Nov 05 11:16:51 <[Rui]> lindi-: want everything or just the 2410 part?
Nov 05 11:17:00 <lindi-> [Rui]: everything might help
Nov 05 11:17:04 <[Rui]> lindi-: this is in my fedora
Nov 05 11:17:27 <[Rui]> lindi-: let me try to reload this modules first and see if it's still happening
Nov 05 11:17:39 <lindi-> don't let the bug escape! ;)
Nov 05 11:19:36 <[Rui]> wait, there's one difference, it's plugged to a usb hub rather than the port, so that's very likely it
Nov 05 11:19:55 <[Rui]> the hub may not be able to power it
Nov 05 11:20:17 <[Rui]> that was it, now it works. still want that lsusb -vvv ?
Nov 05 11:21:35 <[Rui]> bah... the localbuild of libphone-ui-shr builds a package that has a lower version than what's on the repo :)
Nov 05 11:23:48 <lindi-> [Rui]: sure
Nov 05 11:50:01 <JaMa> [Rui]: I have the same on 2nd desktop when I connect few power hungry devices to 1 usb hub..
Nov 05 11:50:31 <[Rui]> oh shit, I hope I didn't break the idle-screen...
Nov 05 12:00:42 <[Rui]> weird, why did it build the same gitrev? shouldn't the local built follow my local commits?
Nov 05 12:07:53 <JaMa> AUTOREV gets latest rev from repo not your checkout
Nov 05 12:09:24 <JaMa> but I don't know what you're currently using :)
Nov 05 12:10:00 <[Rui]> I had autorev, what should I use then? I tried putting the git id specifically, but I'd rather not have to do that everytime!
Nov 05 12:10:21 <[Rui]> it means a lenghty «NOTE: Out of date cache found, rebuilding...»
Nov 05 12:19:25 <[Rui]> damn, didn't work
Nov 05 12:20:19 <mrmoku> [Rui]: you should not even have to commit
Nov 05 12:20:26 <mrmoku> it should take the files from your workdir
Nov 05 12:39:18 <[Rui]> mrmoku: what do you have in your localconf?
Nov 05 12:39:18 <[Rui]> I had:
Nov 05 12:39:18 <[Rui]> INHERIT_append_pn-libphone-ui-shr = "srctree gitpkgv"
Nov 05 12:39:18 <[Rui]> SRCREV_pn-libphone-ui-shr = ${AUTOREV}
Nov 05 12:39:18 <[Rui]> S_pn-libphone-ui-shr = "/media/devdisk/git/${PN}"
Nov 05 12:41:41 <lindi-> (gdb) set *(unsigned int*)0xfb000010 = 0
Nov 05 12:41:42 <lindi-> (gdb) p/t *(unsigned int*)0xfb000010
Nov 05 12:41:42 <lindi-> $32 = 101010101010101010101
Nov 05 12:41:51 <lindi-> why can't I write to memory with debug board and gdb?
Nov 05 12:44:24 <mrmoku> [Rui]: sorry, have not set up local builds again after wiping everything
Nov 05 12:44:36 <[Rui]> damn :(
Nov 05 12:44:39 <mrmoku> [Rui]: but SRCREV = AUTOREV is not it
Nov 05 12:44:47 <mrmoku> I always have = "LOCAL" there
Nov 05 12:44:53 <[Rui]> ah
Nov 05 12:46:33 <mrmoku> hmm
Nov 05 12:46:42 <mrmoku> [Rui]: not sure :/
Nov 05 12:47:11 <mrmoku> maybe yes... sure :P
Nov 05 12:47:32 <mrmoku> JaMa: our Makefile has AUTOREV for testing and stable and LOCAL for unstable when setting up local-builds.conf :P
Nov 05 12:48:46 <mrmoku> SRC_URI_pn-libphone-ui-shr = \"file:///path/to/source/shr\"
Nov 05 12:48:49 <lindi-> doesn't work from openocd either: > mww phys 0x56000010 0x00155550
Nov 05 12:48:49 <lindi-> > mdw phys 0x56000010
Nov 05 12:48:49 <lindi-> 0x56000010: 00155555
Nov 05 12:48:53 <mrmoku> SRCREV_pn-libphone-ui-shr = \"LOCAL\"
Nov 05 12:48:59 <mrmoku> SRCPV_pn-libphone-ui-shr = \"LOCAL\"
Nov 05 12:49:07 <mrmoku> S_pn-libphone-ui-shr = \"\$${WORKDIR}/shr/\$${PN}\"
Nov 05 12:49:13 <mrmoku> [Rui]: does that work ^^^
Nov 05 12:55:16 <[Rui]> let's see
Nov 05 12:55:20 <JaMa> mrmoku: local.builds says AUTOREV.. and I said .. no idea what [Rui] used in the end.. http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr-makefile.git;a=blobdiff;f=Makefile;h=d9ac80d6cedf5dc2bc5686a6048f6267f2c50e30;hp=086e5fb4f00df0201c7a8b046288cb83cb65582e;hb=efc097db2abccb6c47e7f19c8d99bb6bb84f891e;hpb=7fc9adc59b77bc64f81f1a5f70a7982aebcd42e9
Nov 05 12:55:21 <[Rui]> why did you wipe, btw?
Nov 05 12:55:41 <[Rui]> autorev is what I was using, then I tried specific git rev
Nov 05 12:55:45 <[Rui]> didn't work either
Nov 05 12:56:21 <[Rui]> so let's try local now
Nov 05 12:57:07 <JaMa> mrmoku: but I agree that it should say at least SRCREV = ${GITREV}
Nov 05 12:57:45 <mrmoku> JaMa: hmm... it does not say AUTOREV for shr-unstable
Nov 05 12:57:57 <JaMa> otherwise I don't see why is gitver inherited
Nov 05 12:59:15 <JaMa> hmm looks like shr-u local-builds.inc wasn't updated at all :)
Nov 05 13:01:14 <mrmoku> yup :P
Nov 05 13:06:03 <[Rui]> gtg, c ya later
Nov 05 13:50:58 <TAsn> yay, managed to flash shr.
Nov 05 13:51:06 <TAsn> gotta wash my car
Nov 05 13:51:13 <TAsn> will tell if you it boots in 1 hr or so.
Nov 05 13:52:58 <TAsn> or couldn't wait
Nov 05 13:53:01 <TAsn> lets see if it boots.
Nov 05 13:53:20 <TAsn> probably won't, but one can hope.
Nov 05 14:00:53 <Arigead> just noticed the above conversation on local builds. I'm not sure if "SRC_URI_pn-libphone-ui-shr = \"file:///path/to/source/shr\"" will work as I tried that a month or so ago and relative paths don't work in OE. That's the last I heard anyhow
Nov 05 14:01:20 <Arigead> sorry that should have been absolute paths don't work
Nov 05 14:01:23 <Arigead> relative do
Nov 05 14:01:53 <Arigead> so file://relative/path/to/source
Nov 05 14:05:29 <mrmoku> Arigead: that was the old thing I pasted
Nov 05 14:05:36 <mrmoku> correct thing would be:
Nov 05 14:05:37 <mrmoku> INHERIT_append_pn-libphone-ui-shr = \"srctree gitpkgv\"
Nov 05 14:05:53 <mrmoku> S_pn-libphone-ui-shr = \"/path/to/source//\$${PN}\"
Nov 05 14:06:11 <mrmoku> SRCREV_pn-libphone-ui-shr = "${GITVER}"
Nov 05 14:06:38 <Arigead> I have local builds working but I don't use overrides as I don't understand it and it's not well documented. I use collections
Nov 05 14:07:02 <Arigead> collections is simpler for me to get my head around
Nov 05 14:44:16 <TAsn> cool, looks like it boots
Nov 05 14:44:25 <TAsn> but doesn't get the right fb
Nov 05 14:49:11 <TAsn> shit, maybe not.
Nov 05 16:52:13 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi grv 
Nov 05 16:52:22 <grv> hi GNUtoo|laptop
Nov 05 16:52:44 <GNUtoo|laptop> we rather talk here because it's more apropriate and more people watch and know what we are talking about so they can correct us or talk with us 
Nov 05 16:53:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> so you're looking for a 3g phone 
Nov 05 16:53:22 <grv> yea, but not something that anyone has
Nov 05 16:53:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> that does 3g+telephony and runs GNU/Linux and is fully free on the main CPU
Nov 05 16:53:33 <grv> right....
Nov 05 16:53:44 <GNUtoo|laptop> and that no-one is working on it
Nov 05 16:54:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> grv, what do you think about writing an alsa driver?
Nov 05 16:54:01 <grv> thats not a requirement though....
Nov 05 16:54:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Nov 05 16:54:16 <grv> i cant write a driver.......
Nov 05 16:54:19 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Nov 05 16:54:25 <GNUtoo|laptop> so what do you want to work on?
Nov 05 16:54:36 <grv> but i'll learn...... as i go on
Nov 05 16:54:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> writing a driver is not so hard
Nov 05 16:54:47 <grv> I basically want to work on the UI aspect
Nov 05 16:54:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Nov 05 16:55:03 <GNUtoo|laptop> what do you want to do about UI?
Nov 05 16:55:04 <grv> do i need to learn C to write a driver
Nov 05 16:55:08 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok
Nov 05 16:55:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> yes that's required
Nov 05 16:55:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> unless the driver is in userspace
Nov 05 16:55:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> so basically what's your project
Nov 05 16:55:41 <grv> Alsa driver is not in the userspace??
Nov 05 16:55:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> ?
Nov 05 16:55:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> it's in kernel
Nov 05 16:55:53 <grv> ok
Nov 05 16:56:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> but can be done in userspace too in case of android, but I'm not sure if you can do it in python or something like that, the preferred language would be C
Nov 05 16:56:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> anyway
Nov 05 16:56:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> about your GUI
Nov 05 16:56:34 <GNUtoo|laptop> you plan to write an application?
Nov 05 16:56:48 <grv> I want to get a working UI in accordance to Fitts' laws
Nov 05 16:56:57 <GNUtoo|laptop> what's that?
Nov 05 16:57:19 <grv> its some laws about UI design thats accessible....
Nov 05 16:57:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> because I would advise you to pick a phone that already works or mostly works for writting an UI
Nov 05 16:57:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> else you will have to end up writing an alsa driver, learning C etc...
Nov 05 16:57:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Nov 05 16:58:26 <grv> I would love to write a driver....
Nov 05 16:58:28 <GNUtoo|laptop> did you decide what application to make?
Nov 05 16:58:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> writing a driver is not so complicated but....it can be very long
Nov 05 16:59:08 <GNUtoo|laptop> depending on how well you can debug
Nov 05 16:59:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> or on how many specification/source code you have and how well they are
Nov 05 16:59:31 <GNUtoo|laptop> s/well/good
Nov 05 16:59:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> so basically you want to write an UI and do more system work
Nov 05 17:00:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> like writing drivers, porting stuff, etc...
Nov 05 17:00:25 <mickeyl> I'd recommend buying a HTC Dream or N900 and write your own UI based on Qt 4.7
Nov 05 17:00:32 <GNUtoo|laptop> me too
Nov 05 17:00:36 <mickeyl> as middleware you can use FSO, although that's not yet complete for n900
Nov 05 17:00:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'm fixing htcdream keyboard right now
Nov 05 17:01:03 <grv> mickeyl: I would prefer EFL over QT
Nov 05 17:01:08 <mickeyl> hmm
Nov 05 17:01:10 <mickeyl> ok, your choice
Nov 05 17:01:10 <GNUtoo|laptop> grv, we have efl too
Nov 05 17:01:21 <mickeyl> although Qt is another league, as you might know
Nov 05 17:01:41 <mickeyl> in any case you will have to write dedicated phone widgets
Nov 05 17:01:48 <mickeyl> and build a framework
Nov 05 17:01:51 <mickeyl> that allows for simple apps
Nov 05 17:01:55 <grv> mickeyl: yea i like qt, i'm using KDE
Nov 05 17:01:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> grv, did you choose what your app will be doing? I'd love to see an efl voip app
Nov 05 17:02:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> do we have rss readers btw?
Nov 05 17:02:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> we could list what's lacking
Nov 05 17:03:23 <grv> GNUtoo|laptop: about the app... i've not decided yet
Nov 05 17:03:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> grv, for driver writings you could start easy by writing GUI,using the phone etc... and later on move to more core stuff
Nov 05 17:03:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> I did that and it worked well for me
Nov 05 17:03:54 <grv> ohkk
Nov 05 17:04:08 <GNUtoo|laptop> I started with the freerunner, ported apps on it like wesnoth
Nov 05 17:04:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> then I got openembedded commit access
Nov 05 17:04:16 <grv> GNUtoo|laptop: can you point to some resources...
Nov 05 17:04:19 <grv> books etc
Nov 05 17:04:22 <GNUtoo|laptop> then the openmoko became old
Nov 05 17:04:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> and I bought an htcdream and dive head first in hardcore stuff like drivers
Nov 05 17:04:53 <GNUtoo|laptop> grv, books on what topics?
Nov 05 17:05:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> efl GUI writings?
Nov 05 17:05:04 <grv> on drivers..... etc
Nov 05 17:05:15 <GNUtoo|laptop> I only read embedded linux primer
Nov 05 17:05:16 <grv> I can handle efl...
Nov 05 17:05:23 <grv> ohk.....
Nov 05 17:05:28 <GNUtoo|laptop> the rest was online docs
Nov 05 17:05:29 <GNUtoo|laptop> etc...
Nov 05 17:06:00 <grv> GNUtoo|laptop: i saw the Neo Freerunner.. and it looked nice
Nov 05 17:06:02 <GNUtoo|laptop> basically I also had a strong experience in knowing how things worked under the hood as I used gentoo for a while
Nov 05 17:06:08 <mickeyl> you could take the core of elementary and add a real good application framework on top. that would be helpful and neat
Nov 05 17:06:32 <mickeyl> and a set of demo apps to utilize the framework
Nov 05 17:06:38 <mickeyl> although that's a major task :)
Nov 05 17:06:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> grv, the freerunner is nice, slow and doesn't have 3g but it's very well supported
Nov 05 17:06:42 <mickeyl> how many years do you have time? :)
Nov 05 17:06:46 <mickeyl> bbiab
Nov 05 17:06:50 <grv> mickeyl: Elementary is great
Nov 05 17:07:03 <grv> mickeyl: 1.5 yrs
Nov 05 17:07:14 <grv> GNUtoo|laptop: ohk..
Nov 05 17:07:28 <GNUtoo|laptop> grv, we have a status for hardware here:
Nov 05 17:07:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/HardwareComparison
Nov 05 17:07:52 <grv> i'll just check that out
Nov 05 17:07:57 <GNUtoo|laptop> there are some non-listed phones tough like the geeksphone
Nov 05 17:08:15 <GNUtoo|laptop> in other words some phones are lacking such as:
Nov 05 17:08:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> *motorolla ezx phones
Nov 05 17:08:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> *geeksphone
Nov 05 17:08:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> and similar
Nov 05 17:08:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> in this comparison
Nov 05 17:08:50 <grv> ohkk...
Nov 05 17:09:31 <GNUtoo|laptop> but as I don't have either of them and don't know anything about their status I couldn't add them
Nov 05 17:11:19 <grv> oh gotta go....  family calling..
Nov 05 17:11:27 <grv> GNUtoo|laptop: bye
Nov 05 17:11:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Nov 05 17:31:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> btw mickeyl I am making huge progress with keyboard on htcdream
Nov 05 17:31:08 <GNUtoo|laptop> setxkbmap -layout "us(htcdream)" -print | xkbcomp - :0 now works locally
Nov 05 17:32:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> it worked before but in a non-correct uncommitable way
Nov 05 20:02:03 <GarthPS|away> JFYI
Nov 05 20:02:17 <GarthPS|away> NOTE: The checksums for '/home/sylvain/dev/SHR-Build/shr-unstable/downloads/libsamplerate-0.1.7.tar.gz' did not match.
Nov 05 20:02:17 <GarthPS|away> Expected MD5: '6731a81cb0c622c483b28c0d7f90867d' and Got: 'ad093e60ec44f0a60de8e29983ddbc0f'
Nov 05 20:02:17 <GarthPS|away> Expected SHA256: '78ed5d9ff1bf162c4a078f6a3e7432a537dd2f22dc58872b081fb01156027fcc' and Got: 'e0a646224a0323ac63f56ef009b2d7fee11452a7b8af139b19ae71d2890dbc9c'
Nov 05 20:02:17 <GarthPS|away> NOTE: Your checksums:
Nov 05 20:02:17 <GarthPS|away> SRC_URI[md5sum] = "ad093e60ec44f0a60de8e29983ddbc0f"
Nov 05 20:44:38 <GNUtoo|laptop> GarthPS|away, mv that files:
Nov 05 20:44:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> /home/sylvain/dev/SHR-Build/shr-unstable/downloads/libsamplerate-0.1.7.tar.gz
Nov 05 20:44:52 <GNUtoo|laptop> /home/sylvain/dev/SHR-Build/shr-unstable/downloads/libsamplerate-0.1.7.tar.gz.md5
Nov 05 20:44:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> etc...
Nov 05 20:54:49 <GarthPS|away> GNUtoo|laptop: thx!
Nov 05 20:55:06 <GNUtoo|laptop> :)
Nov 05 21:42:05 <[Rui]> hi
Nov 05 21:42:25 <[Rui]> mrmoku: well, just tried and my local build of libphone-ui-shr is still borked
Nov 05 22:21:20 <TAsn> [Rui], grr. I can't flash shr for some reason.
Nov 05 22:21:23 <TAsn> still trying
Nov 05 22:21:26 <TAsn> contacted this guy
Nov 05 22:21:32 <TAsn> lets hope he'll be able to do good :P
Nov 05 22:21:34 <[Rui]> TAsn: :)
Nov 05 22:23:51 <[Rui]> I'm fighting openembedded
Nov 05 22:24:17 <[Rui]> I need to make a localbuild of libphone-ui-shr, blind coding has turned a good catch into a nightmare
Nov 05 22:25:17 <TAsn> haha
Nov 05 22:25:22 <TAsn> anyhow, I'm off to the pub.
Nov 05 22:25:34 <[Rui]> TAsn: envy you...
Nov 05 22:25:51 <TAsn> life of a bachelor. :P
Nov 05 22:25:54 <TAsn> muhaha.
Nov 05 22:26:09 <TAsn> anyhow, ciao.
Nov 05 22:29:03 <[Rui]> ciao
Nov 05 23:59:04 * teythoon . , o O { dort draussen wartet ein leben auf dich... }
Nov 06 00:19:47 <CIA-67> SHR: 03rms 07libphone-ui-shr * rae3d11972002 10/src/view/idle-view.c: Having failed miserably, better let it be as it ever was before.
Nov 06 00:36:20 <[Rui]> TAsn: interesting script: http://git.alwaysinnovating.com/cgit.cgi/ai.ubuntu/tree/rootstock
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