**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 13 02:59:57 2010 Nov 13 07:06:25 mickeyl: ping Nov 13 08:00:46 PaulFertser: moin, how is your mood this weekend? :) Nov 13 08:25:09 JaMa: ok, planning to go see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Than_Paradise for a change :) Nov 13 08:25:16 JaMa: how're you? Nov 13 08:26:10 good, maybe very good :) Nov 13 08:26:30 JaMa: i'm glad to hear that :) Nov 13 08:27:46 JaMa: so basically you want to have a gta01-machine-2.6.34 branch that should work on gta01, ok. I'll try to do (and test) it this weekend most probably. Nov 13 08:28:28 yup and gta01-machine-2.6.34 gta02-machine-2.6.34 then can be merged together in om-2.6.34 like it was in 2.6.31 Nov 13 08:28:48 both machines building from same source only with different config Nov 13 08:32:29 JaMa: i'll try, no promises though. Nov 13 08:37:27 thanks mate Nov 13 08:41:39 Heinervdm: latest kernel without drm is on http://build.shr-project.org/tests/jama/ Nov 13 08:48:29 JaMa: (czech transport minister) i wished that could happen in ru :( Nov 13 08:49:39 JaMa: thx Nov 13 08:50:46 PaulFertser: trying to find what you meant by that :) Nov 13 08:51:03 EFL beta2 released :) Nov 13 08:51:24 JaMa: he was banned from driving for 6 months for using a phoney license plate on his private car. Nov 13 08:51:49 ahh I see Nov 13 08:52:16 JaMa: totally impossible here, i bet any minister can drive without license plate or driving license whatsoever. Nov 13 08:53:59 JaMa: hell, putin was openly telling journalist about his "lada kalina" "test-drive" where he went 145km/h on a public road (most probably limited to 90km/h). And also he was controlling an airplane as a second pilot (without any reasonable permit of course), that's all from his official interviews. Nov 13 08:55:24 PaulFertser: well I bet that his maserati looks much better without license plate :) Nov 13 08:55:53 PaulFertser: ie in US they don't care much about plates so I wouldn't see it as so big issue Nov 13 08:56:21 Heh, i once was stopped by a road policeman and instead of checking my docs he asked to give him a lift. During the drive i was telling him about my old car (1983 make) and how i went to St.Petersburg and that it goes 110km/h all right (90km/h limit) and he was all "nice car indeed" :) Nov 13 08:56:28 PaulFertser: but you're right that using their power to do it freely is just wrong Nov 13 08:56:52 hehe :) Nov 13 08:58:59 JaMa: the last time i was stopped for accidentally violating lanes and the policeman asked me if i want to be fined more or less. I said "less" and he said "all right, i'll write you were slightly speeding, that'll be 300 rur instead of 500" :-O Nov 13 08:59:25 once our parked car was hit by another car with drunk driver on plates from completely different car... that's what should be punished hard, but plastic plate instead of metal or even plate on reasonable sized sticker is fine for me as long as it says right numbers :) Nov 13 09:00:19 JaMa: (btw, near the end of the lift i was giving to that policeman, he told me how to do the turn he needed faster (but illegal), so i did :) ) Nov 13 09:00:45 So i live in a sick country indeed. Nov 13 09:01:25 well those are still only normal people.. as long as you didn't endanger someone.. Nov 13 09:02:18 JaMa: (phoney plate) the authencity is required so that one can be sure the numbers are right (i.e. assigned by the state). Nov 13 09:15:48 When i was a kid, it seemed to me that people working on different positions are really very different; e.g. i didn't think i could just go to the underground train conductor and ask him something or that most activities i see around do not really require that much knowledge or outstanding skills, heh. Nov 13 10:05:55 GNUtoo|laptop: hi Nov 13 10:06:08 JaMa, hi Nov 13 10:06:12 GNUtoo|laptop: your supertux fix seems like just work around Nov 13 10:06:20 ah? Nov 13 10:06:26 GNUtoo|laptop: if you check that libmikmod that's what returns -L/usr/lib Nov 13 10:06:32 ah ok Nov 13 10:06:52 where in libmikmod? Nov 13 10:06:53 your EXTRA_OECONF is "replacing" that, but libmikmod is still broken for other libs as libsdl-mixer Nov 13 10:07:00 ah ok Nov 13 10:07:04 see what libmikmod-config returns Nov 13 10:07:13 ok Nov 13 10:08:08 I was able to build supertux-qvga before fine when I forced configure.ac to ignore -L from it Nov 13 10:08:25 ok Nov 13 10:08:26 hmmm Nov 13 10:08:35 I'll look for libmikmod Nov 13 10:08:39 is it urgent? Nov 13 10:08:56 no.. but maybe it will fix also your libsdl issue Nov 13 10:09:35 which issue? Nov 13 10:09:46 because there are many issues for libsdl Nov 13 10:10:09 the one you reported lately on oe-devel Nov 13 10:10:49 ah ok Nov 13 10:10:54 no I don't think so Nov 13 10:11:09 I wasn't able to send the patch btw Nov 13 10:11:14 which is quite annoying Nov 13 10:11:19 do you have an idea? Nov 13 10:11:33 what smtp cli do you use? Nov 13 10:11:59 I forgot to setup msmtp first when I switched from normal system to that minimal chroot I'm using now Nov 13 10:12:14 git send-email Nov 13 10:12:38 ahh Nov 13 10:12:46 you mean that git-send-email is a wrapper Nov 13 10:12:47 ? Nov 13 10:12:54 arround sendmail etc... Nov 13 10:13:04 I thought it was a perl stuff Nov 13 10:13:15 and sending messages with it works Nov 13 10:13:21 it's only the patches that are not sent Nov 13 10:13:46 about libmikmod: http://pastebin.com/L8KMEh79 Nov 13 10:14:48 yes it's just wrapper Nov 13 10:14:54 ah ok Nov 13 10:15:15 and libmikmod iirc returned right values before switch to libtool-2.4 Nov 13 10:17:08 ah ok Nov 13 10:18:04 everything in git is a wrapper Nov 13 10:21:48 ok Nov 13 10:40:26 mrmoku: EFL bumped in OE, you can merge those patches from Treviño Nov 13 10:40:42 elisa42: there is also nodrm kernel with hs patch now Nov 13 10:42:37 JaMa: great, thanks :-) Nov 13 10:43:46 JaMa: hi, thats awesome! Nov 13 10:44:09 JaMa: though the kernel at the link you sent me yesterday was a kernel build on nov 9. was this intentional? or does it just take some time to build? Nov 13 10:45:44 SHR: 03mail 07libphone-ui * r7f98b9eabf8b 10/src/ (6 files): Added phoneui_utils_{calls, messages, contacs}_get_full() functions Nov 13 10:46:14 SHR: 03mail 07libphone-ui-shr * r967c00794b98 10/src/view/message-list-view.c: message-list-view: use the list scroller events for retriving messages Nov 13 10:58:28 elisa42: I see Nov-12 here http://build.shr-project.org/tests/jama/old/kernel-new/ Nov 13 10:58:40 elisa42: yesterday it was without old subdirectory Nov 13 11:00:06 JaMa: yeah it says nov12 on the outside but uname -a tells a different story.. Nov 13 11:00:20 JaMa: but i just tried the nodrm version Nov 13 11:02:19 JaMa: libphone-ui reports the headset though no sound on calls. mplayer even pauses playing when pluging in and resumes when unpluging. strange.. Nov 13 11:09:11 * mrmoku is going to play some soccer now... bbl Nov 13 11:17:26 elisa42: nodrm was older and without hs patch, today I've build all 3 so it should say nov13 Nov 13 11:19:58 JaMa: yes it does say nov13 now Nov 13 11:41:40 JaMa: though it doesn't play sound while the headset is plugged in.. Nov 13 11:47:35 JaMa, hi do you know other foo-config like libmikimod-config ? Nov 13 11:47:50 because I've no ideas on how to fix it Nov 13 11:49:57 Hi guys! Nov 13 11:50:51 does someone can help me to make a list of the internal of the pre 2 Nov 13 11:51:00 I don't how to do it Nov 13 11:51:19 (I mean to inspect it without open it) Nov 13 11:52:55 GarthPS, dmesg Nov 13 11:53:06 find /lib/modules Nov 13 11:54:00 GNUtoo|laptop: there are few, you can find them if you grep for "inherit.*binconfig" Nov 13 11:54:14 ok Nov 13 11:54:15 thanks a lot Nov 13 11:54:29 GNUtoo|laptop: thx Nov 13 11:54:35 I will try that Nov 13 11:54:49 (most of the stuff uses pkgconfig) Nov 13 11:54:53 GarthPS, ok Nov 13 11:54:58 GNUtoo|laptop: ie http://paste.pocoo.org/show/290791/ Nov 13 11:55:16 ok thanks a lot Nov 13 11:55:23 grep was finding config$ Nov 13 11:55:28 and not \-config$ Nov 13 11:56:45 libpng12-config does that: prefix="/home/gnutoo/embedded/oe/oetmps/nokia900/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr" Nov 13 11:56:47 I'll try that Nov 13 11:57:19 but I bet that would break target Nov 13 11:57:20 hmmm Nov 13 11:57:31 I'll look Nov 13 11:59:39 hmmm Nov 13 11:59:43 in workdir: Nov 13 11:59:44 prefix="/usr" Nov 13 11:59:52 in sysroot: Nov 13 11:59:56 prefix="/home/gnutoo/embedded/oe/oetmps/nokia900/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr" Nov 13 12:00:05 I'll look at the inherit Nov 13 12:06:51 GNUtoo|laptop: do you know where I can put those infos for th emoments ? Nov 13 12:07:16 GarthPS, yes on FSO wiki,in the hardware section , open a new palm-pre-2 page Nov 13 12:09:13 GNUtoo|laptop: sure? and do you think that webos-internal has already something like this ?I was wondering if could ask there too Nov 13 12:09:29 GarthPS, no I'm not sure Nov 13 12:09:40 maybe ask on #webos-internals then Nov 13 12:09:54 ok Nov 13 12:12:50 GNUtoo|laptop: I put it under "work in progress" sectin? Nov 13 12:13:39 I don't know well #webos-internals wiki Nov 13 12:13:59 ha ok sorry Nov 13 12:14:04 you're publishing to fso wiki Nov 13 12:14:10 yes of course Nov 13 12:14:14 ok Nov 13 12:15:00 * GNUtoo|laptop is looking at get_binconfig_mangle Nov 13 12:16:21 JaMa: should the debug kernel also have hs-patch applied? it seems to be built on nov 09 Nov 13 12:20:05 elisa42: does the hs-patch work for you? I try the drm kernel from yesterday and the one from today, but don't get an additional inputevent. Nov 13 12:21:52 Paulus: hi, the one from yesterday didn't work as uname -a said it was build on nov 09. but the nodrm from today worked (at least something happend when pluggin in the headset) Nov 13 12:22:25 Paulus: didnt try the drm one off to day yet Nov 13 12:22:59 hm ok so I will try nodrm too Nov 13 12:23:35 does nodrm has any other issues? Nov 13 12:23:37 JaMa, I'll try something, maybe I've found the cause Nov 13 12:24:06 Paulus: no it has less issues Nov 13 12:24:17 ok thx Nov 13 12:24:30 Paulus: there is a bug with sdcard on the kms version Nov 13 12:25:53 elisa42: du you have a link to the bugreport or something? Nov 13 12:25:54 GNUtoo|laptop: just tak ea sec on #webosinteral Nov 13 12:28:31 Paulus: JaMa mentioned it somewhere on the ml Nov 13 12:28:43 kk Nov 13 12:29:53 Paulus: found it. http://www.mail-archive.com/shr-user@lists.shr-project.org/msg06176.html Nov 13 12:31:20 that's not about uSD.. just some apps (like orrery, dictator) are crashing Xorg when KMS is used Nov 13 12:31:30 though i might confuse this with the bug of.. Nov 13 12:31:44 yeah i just noticed ;) Nov 13 12:32:51 uSD should (in theory) work as good as with nodrm Nov 13 12:33:31 ok now i am confused^^ Nov 13 12:33:49 nodrm should work better? Nov 13 12:33:52 elisa42: and I'll reupload all 3 kernels as soon as I found out why the version changed here today Nov 13 12:33:59 JaMa: tnx Nov 13 12:34:32 Paulus: it should prevent X from crashing with some apps Nov 13 12:35:01 as temporary workaround before it's fixed properly Nov 13 12:35:25 ok great so i will give it a try Nov 13 12:36:08 btw someone with samsung clx-3185 printer? :) Nov 13 12:36:47 * JaMa is configuring it remotely in parents house and they say that test page looks wrong (some missing lines or something) Nov 13 12:38:35 JaMa, found it Nov 13 12:38:46 ="/usr/" Nov 13 12:38:51 works Nov 13 12:38:54 the rest no Nov 13 12:38:56 so.... Nov 13 12:39:02 I'll explain better Nov 13 12:39:12 you compile libmikmod Nov 13 12:39:17 JaMa: btw i got many "unknown symbol" errors with the drm kernel. maybe flashing/installing failed (i tryes it just one time), but atm the freerunner is unusable(at least networking isen't working) Nov 13 12:39:24 then there is the inherit binconfig that comes into the game Nov 13 12:39:35 the inherit binconfig does: Nov 13 12:39:52 binconfig_sysroot_preprocess () { Nov 13 12:40:01 ... Nov 13 12:40:02 cat $config | sed ${@get_binconfig_mangle(d)} > ${SYSROOT_DESTDIR}${STAGING_BINDIR_CROSS}/$configname Nov 13 12:40:43 get_binconfig_mangle is still in binconfig.bbclass and does that: Nov 13 12:40:53 s += " -e 's:=%s${libdir}:=\\1OELIBDIR:;'" % optional_quote Nov 13 12:41:17 with optional_quote beeing: Nov 13 12:41:18 optional_quote = r"$\"\?$" Nov 13 12:41:21 which result in: Nov 13 12:41:34 optional_quote = r"$\"\?$" Nov 13 12:41:37 oops Nov 13 12:41:44 -e 's:=$"\?$/usr/lib:=\1OELIBDIR:;' Nov 13 12:41:49 ahh ok Nov 13 12:41:53 optional_quote Nov 13 12:41:58 then it should be the lacking / Nov 13 12:42:34 echo =/usr/ | sed 's:=$"\?$/usr/:=\1OEPREFIX/:' => =OEPREFIX/ Nov 13 12:42:51 that's right isn't it? Nov 13 12:42:54 echo =/usr | sed 's:=$"\?$/usr/:=\1OEPREFIX/:' => =/usr Nov 13 12:43:01 and we have =/usr Nov 13 12:43:05 ah I see Nov 13 12:43:36 strange that it doesn't look like something depending on libtool version change Nov 13 12:44:15 maybe libtool changed /usr/ in /usr Nov 13 12:44:35 yes but that looks strange :) Nov 13 12:44:43 ok Nov 13 12:44:50 what should we do for fixing it then? Nov 13 12:44:59 I've to eat at some point btw Nov 13 12:48:03 replcing =/usr in binconfig.bbclass seems like best way to me Nov 13 12:48:12 as maybe more libs are suffering the same issue now Nov 13 12:48:52 Paulus: the drm kernel is working fine here Nov 13 12:49:00 Paulus: did you download/untar also modules + depmod -a 2.6.34.7? Nov 13 12:49:13 Paulus: yes Nov 13 12:49:43 JaMa: yes i thought i did it...will try again Nov 13 12:51:50 JaMa, could you do it? Nov 13 12:52:01 because I'll have to eat Nov 13 12:54:10 JaMa, also I can't send patches Nov 13 12:54:15 and that's a core stuff Nov 13 12:54:21 that must be reviewed Nov 13 12:54:22 so... Nov 13 12:55:01 btw don't forget to tell that I was part of the finding Nov 13 12:55:06 in the patch Nov 13 12:55:44 I can do it.. but don't know when :/ Nov 13 12:56:46 ok Nov 13 12:56:55 or Nov 13 12:56:58 I send a mail Nov 13 12:57:01 describing the issue Nov 13 12:57:06 and someone else will do it? Nov 13 12:58:25 or you after lunch if you find some time :) Nov 13 13:00:04 yes Nov 13 13:00:08 but I can't send patches Nov 13 13:00:11 I must fix that Nov 13 13:00:37 try to send email from cmdline with sendmail Nov 13 13:02:20 ok Nov 13 13:03:10 JaMa: still getting "unknown symbol" errors for many modules. I will try nodrm after launch Nov 13 13:03:52 Paulus: then try to remove /lib/modules/2.6.34* first and then unpack modules Nov 13 13:04:25 Paulus: and new drm kernel will be in normal feed in few minutes, so you can just wait :) Nov 13 13:05:33 ok thx will try....but atm i can't use the feed, because networking isn't working Nov 13 13:05:55 ic Nov 13 13:06:20 Paulus: which symbols are missing? Nov 13 13:06:30 should be shown in dmesg Nov 13 13:17:20 shr-e-gadget isn't compatible with the latest e Nov 13 13:17:37 elisa42: kernel-debug reuploaded, but it has only some debug options enabled (mostly for me to debug drm) maybe you don't need it? Nov 13 13:17:41 Heinervdm: build or runtime? Nov 13 13:17:48 JaMa: runtime Nov 13 13:18:04 can you fix it? Nov 13 13:18:07 but, perhaps it's a false alarm Nov 13 13:18:21 * JaMa didn't rebuild e-gadget after last efl bump :/ Nov 13 13:18:29 will rebuild it, perhaps it's just linked against old libs Nov 13 13:18:31 but older build of e-gadget works here Nov 13 13:18:42 i will check Nov 13 13:18:46 thanks Nov 13 13:18:52 JaMa: i just thought it might tell me why sound is not working with headphones Nov 13 13:19:47 GNUtoo|laptop: pong Nov 13 13:19:59 elisa42: here is defconfig used there http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/commit/136fc44b0fed11282a369b716be37b9f59c06bc3 Nov 13 13:20:07 mickeyl, hi Nov 13 13:20:19 mickeyl, I don't remember why I pinged you, sorry Nov 13 13:20:27 maybe for an issue that is now fixed I think Nov 13 13:20:28 elisa42: did you check alsa scenarios? Nov 13 13:20:37 hehe, ok Nov 13 13:20:49 mickeyl, else keyboard got upstream for htcdream Nov 13 13:20:57 and someone is working on iphone 3g Nov 13 13:21:24 and...surprize....the port seem to be standard enough: Nov 13 13:21:30 *AT command with ril source code Nov 13 13:21:31 *alsa Nov 13 13:21:36 *libertas Nov 13 13:21:39 etc... Nov 13 13:21:40 JaMa: well it changes the scenarios properly (at least thats what fso is telling me) Nov 13 13:21:52 pretty cool Nov 13 13:21:56 mickeyl: do you have an idea about: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/586 it's so annoying when you have to wait 2 minutes for a shutdown :) Nov 13 13:22:00 i have an iphone 2g here which is pretty useless now Nov 13 13:22:06 ok Nov 13 13:22:17 the person is doing the port for the 3g not the 2g Nov 13 13:22:18 anyway Nov 13 13:22:30 maybe some dev should have it then(not me please...lol) Nov 13 13:22:45 such as at fosdem(so no shipping costs) Nov 13 13:22:46 Heinervdm: unfortunately i can't reproduce this yet Nov 13 13:23:19 mickeyl: so it's working for you? Nov 13 13:23:35 Heinervdm: yes, (note that i don't use the Neo since months though) Nov 13 13:23:37 apart that: major progress with wifi on palm-pre but still not possible to associate(scan only) Nov 13 13:23:46 Heinervdm: it works on some other devices Nov 13 13:23:47 Heinervdm: is there any debug output that could give a clue? Nov 13 13:23:56 GNUtoo|laptop: hmm, ok, pity Nov 13 13:24:24 GNUtoo|laptop: gdbus conversion is still waiting for one showstopper on vala side :/ Nov 13 13:24:28 mickeyl: that was just on the neo, i posted all logs on that ticket Nov 13 13:24:30 ok Nov 13 13:25:32 JaMa: but mplayer just stops playing and resumes playing when unplugging, same with aplay.. Nov 13 13:30:11 mickeyl: hi :) Can you please comment a bit on this: I still have that problem when a single timeout leads to silent closing of the modem and i need to restart at least fsogsmd and often fsousaged is stuck in suspending/resuming state, and after fsousaged restart fsodeviced doesn't reregister its resources Nov 13 13:30:32 elisa42: I mean to check scenarios if it has all volume levels right (diff with 2.6.32 version) Nov 13 13:31:05 PaulFertser: please open a bug on that, should be relatively simple to fix Nov 13 13:32:27 mickeyl: that would be great Nov 13 13:33:12 NOTE: Running task 12696 of 19165 Nov 13 13:33:39 JaMa: hi Nov 13 13:33:50 hi Nov 13 13:34:22 mickeyl: i can't really isolate the problem, this is several issues combined and i'm not sure what to report and how. Nov 13 13:34:48 PaulFertser: lets start with fsodeviced reregistering resources Nov 13 13:35:23 or rather everything that uses libfsoresource Nov 13 13:35:23 JaMa: you might know why uvc kernel modules are not in shr/oe? Nov 13 13:35:44 JaMa: is there a newer replacement or anything? Nov 13 13:38:27 mickeyl: ok, i hope this minimal report is enough, as i haven't investigated further the source of the problem: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/592 . So, two problems left to go: fsousaged stuck in SUSPENDING or RESUMING and fsogsmd closing modem completely on timeout. Nov 13 13:38:48 right Nov 13 13:38:56 lets look at the latter one for a second Nov 13 13:39:05 vanous: uvc? Nov 13 13:39:07 what is your preferred behaviour? Nov 13 13:39:14 lets say we try to send a command to the modem Nov 13 13:39:15 JaMa: webcam modules Nov 13 13:39:19 it doesn't respond Nov 13 13:39:24 what shall we do? Nov 13 13:39:40 mickeyl: sorry, but if i knew, i would make a proposal long time ago, really. But i've no idea, that's some architectural thing. Nov 13 13:39:47 indeed Nov 13 13:39:50 vanous: maybe just missing in defconfig, do you know which option it is? Nov 13 13:40:00 i think closing the modem is the right way Nov 13 13:40:07 i tried all kinds of things beforehand Nov 13 13:40:16 but eventually they all lead to the conclusion that Nov 13 13:40:24 once the modem is stuck, it's best to close it and reopen Nov 13 13:40:49 now the problem is how to deal with this wrt. to the upper layers Nov 13 13:41:03 how about sending a 'ResourceVanish' signal? Nov 13 13:41:08 mickeyl: i most probably would prefer the daemon to try as hard as it can to maintain the status quo, and here i'd probably prefer it to automatically close the modem, open it, and after it's ready to go to the "functionality" it was in before the failure. Nov 13 13:41:11 and have the upper layers rerequest the modem? Nov 13 13:41:28 hmm Nov 13 13:41:29 i see Nov 13 13:41:44 that's another approach Nov 13 13:41:47 JaMa: well, on my deb box, i get uvcvideo module loaded Nov 13 13:42:18 mickeyl: what you propose would mean my UI should listen to those signals and care about it, i do not feel it being right, maintaining hardware in a consistent state is not the UI task. Nov 13 13:43:00 not necessarily the UI Nov 13 13:43:19 mickeyl: who else knows about the last requested "set gsm functionality"? Nov 13 13:43:46 the modem agent, which often is a layer in between the UI and fsogsmd Nov 13 13:43:49 for SHR, it's phonefsod Nov 13 13:43:58 s/modem/communication/ Nov 13 13:44:25 mickeyl: i somehow do not feel like using it with FSO. Nov 13 13:44:34 yep Nov 13 13:44:40 and it shouldn't be a necessity Nov 13 13:44:42 JaMa: shame on me, i forgot to switch to / for unpacking...now everything is working fine, thanks Nov 13 13:44:46 so let me think about your proposal Nov 13 13:44:53 it might be the right way to handle it Nov 13 13:44:57 vanous: and it was availabe in previous kernel versions in SHR? Nov 13 13:45:13 vanous: I don't see any V4L option enabled in current defconfig Nov 13 13:45:18 mickeyl: want me to make a ticket with an irc log exerpt? Nov 13 13:45:20 JaMa: i don't know, really Nov 13 13:45:23 JaMa: i see Nov 13 13:45:30 JaMa: that could be it Nov 13 13:45:37 PaulFertser: yes, that'd be good Nov 13 13:45:52 JaMa: i was running out of any space, had to delete oe /tmp , so cannot try now Nov 13 13:45:54 it's an orthogonal issue to the resource reregistering Nov 13 13:45:54 vanous: I'll add it to defconfig if you want Nov 13 13:46:07 [which fsogsmd needs to do as well...] Nov 13 13:46:13 JaMa: well, for the test, it would be nice Nov 13 13:47:03 JaMa: i have a nice use case on my mind these days, only my time killing dayjob is in the way :( Nov 13 13:47:06 vanous: ok, mmt till my current kenel build finishes :) Nov 13 13:47:13 JaMa: great Nov 13 13:48:04 :/ my dayjob also went to crazy mode lately.. Nov 13 13:48:06 JaMa: i feel like i had a shr round trip, except i had absolutely no time to meet people :) Nov 13 13:48:29 JaMa: from germany, china., finland, russia... just name it, in past two months :(( Nov 13 13:49:30 the only place i have been avoiding now is prague :) Nov 13 13:50:57 mickeyl: done, http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/593 ; now should i also open a ticket for the fsousaged stuck in SUSPENDING/RESUMING? Nov 13 13:52:06 PaulFertser: yes, please. i wonder how that can happen, since fsousaged's error handling should prevent it. Nov 13 13:52:29 or do you mean "temporarily" stuck, like until the dbus timeout hits? Nov 13 13:52:56 mickeyl: hm, probably i didn't wait for long enough, i'm not sure, when i need my phone i need it faster than ~2 min of timeout. Nov 13 13:52:57 my next incarnation of fsousaged will use [NoReply] calls Nov 13 13:53:14 mickeyl: so i just pkill -f -9 fsogsmd; pkill -f -9 fsousaged :( Nov 13 13:53:33 any idea if CONFIG_TASKSTATS or CONFIG_PROC_EVENTS could have any negative performance impact, or are they ok? Nov 13 13:53:42 fsousaged was the first one i implemented in vala Nov 13 13:53:45 i have learned since then Nov 13 13:53:47 mickeyl: but basically i try to run lsfsor.py and it says that the state is SUSPENDING or RESUMING (the calypso timeouts are more likely to happen on suspend or resume) and that's all. Nov 13 13:53:53 fsousaged will probably need some revamping Nov 13 13:54:21 mickeyl: fyi i appear to have quite some tickets opened: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/query?status=accepted&status=assigned&status=in_testing&status=new&status=reopened&reporter=%7EPaulFertser&order=priority&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone&col=component Nov 13 13:55:36 indeed. what i need is a concentrated period of working on FSO again Nov 13 13:55:51 it's very hard to fix those issues if all you have is an hour here and an hour there :( Nov 13 13:55:52 I have no idea now what i meant when i was writing "lack of debugging" here: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/572 otherwise i can close it... Nov 13 13:56:26 hehe, me neither Nov 13 13:56:54 i think 582 and 593 cover it Nov 13 13:58:22 mickeyl: i clearly remember that debugging thing was bothering me. That i felt like only strace could give enough information to clearly determine what's going on, and libfsotransport DEBUG was not enough. Nov 13 13:58:59 PaulFertser: there is always the possibility to use --enable-debug for libfsotransport Nov 13 13:59:02 but this is _VERY_ verbose Nov 13 13:59:17 mickeyl: also, these timeouts on suspend/resume are rather suspicious, hey, calypso is not _that_ bad. Nov 13 13:59:53 vanous: wow, nice trip, pity that mostly bussiness I guess Nov 13 14:00:33 JaMa: rebuild of shr-e-gadgets helped Nov 13 14:00:52 Heinervdm: then push PR bump please Nov 13 14:01:03 JaMa: ok Nov 13 14:01:48 mickeyl: yeah, #582 has some very nice interesting logs iirc :) Nov 13 14:02:52 I supplied no comments there but careful reading of the logs was revealing something wrong iirc. Nov 13 14:03:29 obviously things go havoc if the resource is being released while it's in use Nov 13 14:03:36 as for why the resource is being released, i have no idea Nov 13 14:03:50 the requesting process obviously closes it or crashes or whatever Nov 13 14:04:38 anyways, i agree fsogsmd should handle this more gracefully Nov 13 14:04:40 JaMa: in my image shr-wizard doesn't start, but i haven't checked why Nov 13 14:04:59 vanous: which cam do you have? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/290848/ Nov 13 14:05:09 unfortunately the contract that promised to give me some more time for fso did not happen (yet) Nov 13 14:05:21 so i'm kind of left with extremely few time Nov 13 14:05:27 i promise to look at these issues Nov 13 14:05:34 mickeyl: big thanks in advance :) Nov 13 14:06:16 np Nov 13 14:06:18 mickeyl: unfortunately, you seem to be the only one here who can deal with this kind of bugs. Nov 13 14:06:32 yeah, that's a pity, but somewhat understandable Nov 13 14:06:36 the architecture is quite complex Nov 13 14:07:11 but vala is gaining popularity Nov 13 14:07:28 Heinervdm: soname was changed in 54508 so maybe I should push PR bumps for all efl using apps Nov 13 14:08:36 JaMa: ah ok, that could be the reason for shr-wizard too Nov 13 14:08:49 strange I didn't hit it Nov 13 14:09:15 i did rebuild from scratch Nov 13 14:09:34 and then you've updated E Nov 13 14:10:55 ok I'll update 97801611dad6b487378876143f3b308696ea8219 and push it Nov 13 14:11:30 It's kinda shame that the oldest, the most open and the most supported target is still not stable enough for daily use... Nov 13 14:12:54 agreed Nov 13 14:13:11 it would probably also help much if i would use one of those devices... Nov 13 14:13:24 but the Neo just isn't up for my needs Nov 13 14:13:37 and the semi-open-hardware that fits my needs has other problems Nov 13 14:13:40 *sigh* Nov 13 14:14:39 JaMa: gspca sonixj Nov 13 14:17:33 JaMa: CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SONIXJ Nov 13 14:20:17 mickeyl: mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/Resource/GSM org.freesmartphone.Resource.Disable hangs und logs with DEBUG shows this: http://shr.pastebin.com/XzDnApcd Nov 13 14:20:21 Heinervdm: PR bump pushed (not sure if I didn't forget for some recipes) Nov 13 14:20:51 but will also try to bump webkit-efl rev (it takes long so better also upgrade a bit :)) Nov 13 14:21:25 JaMa: wich rev do you want to use? Nov 13 14:21:40 what about latest? Nov 13 14:22:00 no idea, i haven't used it for a long time Nov 13 14:22:07