**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 16 02:59:58 2010 Nov 16 05:18:32 anyone around? Nov 16 05:25:44 Lopi: sorry, i just woken up in the middle of the night and went to sleep shortly, and now i'm heading to work... Nov 16 05:26:02 Lopi: your efforts are appreciated, btw :) Nov 16 05:26:11 PaulFertser, np I just tried creating the first iPhone 3G SHR image Nov 16 05:26:16 Lopi: i know Nov 16 05:26:18 PaulFertser, have a pastebin of the errors Nov 16 05:26:56 Lopi: it's usually more effective to ask and paste links, so whenever someone feels like trying to answer, he'll have all the info handy. Nov 16 05:27:34 Someone take a look when they get a chance: http://pastebin.com/cpMs5QB8 Nov 16 05:29:33 Lopi: sdr-image.bb and linux-iphone_git.bb have serious errors. Nov 16 05:29:49 Lopi: i'd suggest carefully comparing them with something that work. Nov 16 05:30:12 Lopi: if you won't be able to solve it that way, pastebin them too. Nov 16 05:30:31 PaulFertser, shr-image.bb was from git, but I'll have to compare linux-iphone_git.bb with the one from htc dream Nov 16 05:31:58 PaulFertser, I'll keep at it - thanks for the help Nov 16 05:39:01 PaulFertser, something must be very wrong.. it shouldn't be using sdr-image.bb ;p Nov 16 05:40:29 Lopi: yeah, exactly what i was going to suggest. Nov 16 05:41:16 Lopi: as to the linux-iphone.git, you've most probably missed to use ``\\'' to continue the line just before the file://defconfig. Nov 16 05:42:07 Lopi: that must be either a single line, or several lines each by the last ending with \\ Nov 16 05:42:15 PaulFertser, http://pastebin.com/PHksMe1m Nov 16 05:43:15 Lopi: add backslash to line 11 Nov 16 05:43:29 ah k Nov 16 05:43:30 makes sense Nov 16 05:44:43 Away for real, see you in ~2hrs. Nov 16 05:45:23 PaulFertser, okay thanks for the help :) Nov 16 06:35:30 pipe: lock screen isl just fine... or idle screen Nov 16 06:40:18 moin Nov 16 06:40:21 woot Nov 16 06:40:27 someone is awake :) Nov 16 06:40:49 JaMa|Zzz, export BBPATH=/stuff/build:/stuff/openembedded ; where is "build" ? Nov 16 06:41:25 JaMa|Zzz: moin Nov 16 06:41:29 or does that just mean shr-unstable? Nov 16 06:42:00 Lopi: that's usually dir where you have build/conf/local.conf Nov 16 06:42:16 ahh Nov 16 06:42:32 the second points to your openembedded checkout (with recipes, conf, etc) Nov 16 06:42:45 * JaMa|Zzz leaving to work too Nov 16 06:51:33 Someone mind taking a look at these pastebins for me? http://pastebin.com/50GcDwMV http://pastebin.com/uYLz07fK Nov 16 06:55:00 thanks in advance :) Nov 16 07:04:31 Lopi: without the conf Nov 16 07:05:06 BBPATH=.../shr-unstable:.../shr-unstable/openembedded Nov 16 07:06:46 ahh Nov 16 07:06:49 mrmoku, thank you :) Nov 16 07:09:11 mrmoku, http://pastebin.com/4gxYHubE Nov 16 07:12:46 Lopi: sorry, no idea about that one :/ Nov 16 07:12:56 JaMa|Wrk: btw, congratulations with finally killing the beast! Nov 16 07:13:38 PaulFertser, any ideas? http://pastebin.com/4gxYHubE Nov 16 07:14:42 JaMa|Wrk: not everyone can really appreciate the amount of work that goes into a "simple" -10 lines + 15 lines patch. Nov 16 07:17:47 Lopi: hm, are you sure you do not have some conflicting bitbake versions installed in parallel or something? Nov 16 07:18:17 PaulFertser, actually that could be it Nov 16 07:18:30 Lopi: then try to sort that out :) Nov 16 07:20:18 JaMa|Wrk: actually i would appreciate you sharing the details of your work ;) Nov 16 07:27:27 hmm Nov 16 07:27:35 new problems after sorting that Nov 16 07:27:41 http://pastebin.com/fxAnRibM Nov 16 07:28:27 what I don't understand is why it's trying to build sdr-image ;o Nov 16 07:29:31 Lopi: do you even have that sdr-image file? Nov 16 07:29:58 PaulFertser, I don't think so. Where do the images end up after compiling? Nov 16 07:29:58 JaMa|Wrk, morning Nov 16 07:30:24 Lopi: do you have /home/vadmin/Desktop/SHR/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/images/sdr-image.bb ? Nov 16 07:31:05 PaulFertser, yes Nov 16 07:31:41 Lopi: i wonder where does it come from... Nov 16 07:33:09 Lopi: or rather how you happen to include it instead of shr-image. :) Nov 16 07:33:21 Lopi: looks like a typo somewhere in the files you modified. Nov 16 07:33:45 PaulFertser, hmm let me triple check my config files ;p Nov 16 07:33:52 Lopi: yeah, grep them for sdr. Nov 16 07:34:20 Lopi: fyi SDR is Software Defined Radio, that's why it tries to include gnuradio and usrp stuff. Nov 16 07:36:05 PaulFertser, ahh okay made a change we'll see if it works Nov 16 07:37:08 I'm getting really close though Nov 16 07:39:30 Lopi: try to remove that file Nov 16 07:39:33 PaulFertser, a little closer: http://pastebin.com/Yg1uqFtG Nov 16 07:39:40 and heck your BBPATH in config Nov 16 07:39:50 misconfiguration on my part it seems Nov 16 07:40:18 Lopi: this last problem will be solved by "chsh /bin/bash" Nov 16 07:40:37 Lopi: in fact ``chsh -s /bin/bash'' Nov 16 07:41:00 buidling again Nov 16 07:41:03 Lopi: do not you have VFP on your target? Nov 16 07:41:05 PaulFertser: do you want more details than what was in commit message? ;) Nov 16 07:41:09 JaMa|Wrk: yeah Nov 16 07:41:22 JaMa|Wrk: the process of how you managed to find that is more interesting. Nov 16 07:41:40 PaulFertser, I'm not sure what VFP is >< Nov 16 07:41:50 well that was my very first bet :/ Nov 16 07:42:19 PaulFertser: but when I added debug message showing used/size, I discarded that idea for too long Nov 16 07:42:24 Lopi: arm's implementation of floating point unit. We lack that on freerunner (armv4) but i bet it is there on your iphone (armv6?) Nov 16 07:42:47 JaMa|Wrk: oh. What made you check that again? Nov 16 07:43:08 Lopi: TARGET_FPU = "soft" <-- this seems to be ineffective in your case. Nov 16 07:43:25 PaulFertser, yeah in the 3G processor spec sheet there is the following: vector floating point coprocessor (VPU) Nov 16 07:43:25 JaMa|Wrk: did stack protection help? Nov 16 07:43:29 if that's what you are referring to Nov 16 07:43:33 Lopi: exactly Nov 16 07:43:54 Lopi: i'd enable it in your machine config. Nov 16 07:43:56 PaulFertser, where does that need to go, in machine config file? Nov 16 07:43:57 PaulFertser: because it was failing on numbers like 284/4096 (where first was count of cmds in queue and second was size in bytes, so not really comparable) and also it didn't fail on ie 1/4 which would be suspicious but nothing was broken until ie 284 (instead of ie 256) Nov 16 07:43:58 kk Nov 16 07:44:41 JaMa|Wrk: yeah, and from looking at the (buggy) code it seemed like one command occupies only one byte... Nov 16 07:45:04 Loki: s/ineffective/inefficient/ Nov 16 07:45:16 TARGET_FPU = "hard" ? Nov 16 07:45:25 PaulFertser: actually I noticed that only while drawing solid fills it's using one Prepare and then many calls to draw (it prepares pixmap once and then draws different rectangles with it) Nov 16 07:45:37 Lopi: no idea, check other machines' configs. Nov 16 07:45:49 PaulFertser, hm okay Nov 16 07:46:06 Lopi: fyi i'm not even using OE ;) Nov 16 07:46:14 haha Nov 16 07:46:21 well done sir ;) Nov 16 07:46:32 PaulFertser: So I added another debug output showing only number of used (not with /size) and then it ring the bell that size is 4096 but only for 1024 commands.. Nov 16 07:46:59 JaMa|Wrk: aha, and then it all suddenly made sense. Nov 16 07:47:24 JaMa|Wrk: so, did compiling with -fstack-protect-all help in the end? Nov 16 07:47:39 JaMa|Wrk: or you just returned to this first idea because you felt like? Nov 16 07:47:44 Yup I would probably notice it with my first bet if I didn't debug it with showing size on same line :) Nov 16 07:48:06 -fstack-protect-all didn't help :/ not sure why, but it never failed in this case Nov 16 07:49:01 JaMa|Wrk: congratulations anyway, that was a tough one (i hope Weiss will pay more attention next time ;) ) Nov 16 07:49:35 I think that he would find it much sooner, but whole Xorg/drm API was completely new to me.. Nov 16 07:50:19 At least you've got nice exposure and experience with those things now, not a bad thing at all :) Nov 16 07:50:25 but interesting that the problem was here since we switched to .32 and first bug report came much later Nov 16 07:50:35 and about 3 new bug reports just this week Nov 16 07:52:07 hmm nice! http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/AMD-joins-MeeGo-while-Pelagicore-joins-LF/ Nov 16 07:56:49 I wonder how it happened that after many months of MeeGo development it's still not usable on n900. It looks like even SHR is better on n900 than MeeGo, no? Nov 16 07:57:41 I guess it's because we're using those firmware blobs from maemo Nov 16 07:58:26 JaMa|Wrk: what blobs are you talking about? Nov 16 07:58:34 hmm it appears that TARGET_FPU = "soft" is coming from somewhere other than my machine config Nov 16 07:58:41 trying to track it down Nov 16 07:58:44 http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/non-oss/repos/armv7l/packages/armv7l/ Nov 16 07:59:12 PaulFertser: I guess that after installing those, sgx performance would be much better :) Nov 16 07:59:28 yeah, that bug was a tricky one.. Nov 16 07:59:34 to spot Nov 16 07:59:54 I had a similar one in my work code which held me hostage for months.. there's absolutely no way I would have spotted it by code review Nov 16 07:59:58 JaMa|Wrk: isn't sgx shit redistributable? Nov 16 08:00:07 JaMa|Wrk: i mean what makes meego not use it? Nov 16 08:00:56 PaulFertser: I think they had oss and non-oss images before Nov 16 08:01:49 JaMa|Wrk, hi Nov 16 08:02:07 PaulFertser: when I talked with koen from TI about those, he said thouse are not redistributable even when he is trying (at least for OE) Nov 16 08:02:13 i just wanted to know if you already bumped mokosuite2, because i'm making the patch otherwise Nov 16 08:02:33 JaMa|Wrk: btw, what about PA shit? Is it still unavoidably required to use voice GSM telephony? Nov 16 08:02:47 daniele_athome: no I haven't, but you can give me SRCREV and I'll bump it for you :) Nov 16 08:03:08 JaMa|Wrk: hm, how then meego officialy provides them from their repo? Nov 16 08:03:22 PaulFertser: no idea about that one, but SHR still needs ie libcal Nov 16 08:03:36 very kind of you :) 19a39c557feea5c17f6176a92f39084846865393 Nov 16 08:03:45 anyway i think there was an api break (as usual) in efreet Nov 16 08:03:52 that's why the segv :( Nov 16 08:04:04 JaMa|Wrk: what's libcal? Really needed for what? Nov 16 08:04:24 hmm there shouldn't be (after alpha release) but I guess it happens :? Nov 16 08:04:33 daniele_athome: it's for mokosuite2 right? :) Nov 16 08:04:39 JaMa|Wrk, yes Nov 16 08:05:34 JaMa|Wrk: btw, raster found quite some bugs in their opengl ES implementation but assholes fixed nothing :(. Nov 16 08:07:13 PaulFertser: without rx-51 firmware in /lib/firmware we have broken calibration in n900 SHR images Nov 16 08:08:13 daniele_athome: bumped and building Nov 16 08:08:19 thanks Nov 16 08:08:59 JaMa|Wrk: where does that firmware go if it's present? Nov 16 08:09:28 ? Nov 16 08:09:38 where it's loaded? Nov 16 08:10:24 JaMa|Wrk: hm, i assume that /lib/firmware is used only for the firmware loaded by the kernel to some devices, not for anything else. Nov 16 08:11:04 actually I didn't look into it much yet.. just noticed it when I reflashed shr image and forget to put firmwares from maemo (and ended with shr booted without ts working) Nov 16 08:11:52 and I was using maemo kernel+modules (not SHR kernel) when I noticed it Nov 16 08:12:45 JaMa|Wrk: i've heard some guys made GUIs for ofono, is it not usable in SHR? I mean i'd like to know what's going on currently telephony-wise in n900 land. Nov 16 08:13:43 no idea Nov 16 08:14:15 * JaMa|Wrk plans to pay more attention to n900, now with gta02 "fixed", but first I have to finish some projects in daywork :/ Nov 16 08:14:18 JaMa|Wrk: ok, sorry for distracting from work, i'll try to concentrate on my too. Nov 16 08:14:40 PaulFertser: btw I was wathing Stranger than Paradise yesterday Nov 16 08:14:43 JaMa|Wrk: gta02 is not fixed, still not really usable for dayly telephony. Nov 16 08:14:48 watching Nov 16 08:14:55 nice movie Nov 16 08:15:06 JaMa|Wrk: i'm glad you do not regret :) Nov 16 08:15:15 PaulFertser: I know (but I don't feel responsible for that part :/) Nov 16 08:15:45 JaMa|Wrk: neither me, but i'm forced to care because i do not feel like using any other phone. Nov 16 08:16:26 we should clone() mickey for that :/ Nov 16 08:16:36 PaulFertser: I mostly care about reliability at that point and it's getting better now with the new info I got about http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2309 Nov 16 08:16:41 s/that/this/ Nov 16 08:16:42 lindi- meant: PaulFertser: I mostly care about reliability at this point and it's getting better now with the new info I got about http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2309 Nov 16 08:16:43 JaMa|Wrk: some critics say it's the best Jarmush's movie so far. Nov 16 08:17:35 lindi-: yeah, i've read that update of yours, and was rather pleased you was able to progress on this awful bug. Nov 16 08:18:25 PaulFertser: as you might know i'm only using ogsmd and actually froze to a particular version a few months before its development was stopped Nov 16 08:18:25 PaulFertser: I'll maybe watch it once more, because I had it only on 1/8 of screen while debugging that problem, so not really paying attention to it all the time Nov 16 08:18:46 PaulFertser: (read about your ousaged problems) Nov 16 08:19:07 JaMa|Wrk: i'm going to re-watch it soon too as it has plenty of fine details to notice. Nov 16 08:19:08 any ideas? http://pastebin.com/L48i3LK0 Nov 16 08:20:08 lindi-: i've fsousaged problems, not ousaged... You know i feel like i want to use a fully functional stack (that being fso2) and hence i'm currently facing stability problems more serious than a hanged resume once a month... Nov 16 08:20:45 PaulFertser: fsousaged is the vala version? Nov 16 08:20:53 Lopi: already told you "chsh -s /bin/bash" Nov 16 08:20:57 lindi-: yes Nov 16 08:21:01 PaulFertser: ok Nov 16 08:21:09 PaulFertser, yeah I did that and the error continues Nov 16 08:21:27 PaulFertser: I kind of made the choice to not use vala for anything critical until it matures a few years at least Nov 16 08:21:37 Lopi: you should have logout and login again afte that probably. Nov 16 08:21:45 ah my bad Nov 16 08:21:46 Lopi: hm, sorry. Nov 16 08:21:50 Lopi: sorry, my bad actually. Nov 16 08:22:00 Lopi: what distro is that, ubuntu/debian? Nov 16 08:22:08 PaulFertser, ubuntu Nov 16 08:22:21 Lopi: then do "sudo update-alternatives /bin/sh" Nov 16 08:22:24 PaulFertser: also note that it is possible the resume issue occurs this often only since I have periodic rtc wakeups Nov 16 08:22:24 Lopi: and choose bash. Nov 16 08:22:51 sh is not handled with alternatives in debian at least, is it really in ubuntu? Nov 16 08:23:44 lindi-: hm, probably no, but that's counter-intuitive to me. Nov 16 08:23:55 yeah unknown argument Nov 16 08:25:04 Lopi: well, you got the idea, "sudo ln -sf /bin/bash /bin/sh"... Nov 16 08:25:34 I guess lindi- might know the "proper" way... Nov 16 08:25:51 is bash even installed by default in ubuntu? Nov 16 08:26:20 JaMa|Wrk: who cares Nov 16 08:26:36 it bypaseed the error ;p Nov 16 08:27:18 Lopi: in fact it was obvious from the error message you posted but i wanted to play cool and use the distro-supported way. Nov 16 08:27:32 PaulFertser: I mean to be available in update-alternatives for Lopi Nov 16 08:28:15 JaMa|Wrk: Lopi is a smart fella, it should be obvious for him that to switch /bin/sh to bash he should have bash installed, it goes without saying ;) Nov 16 08:28:28 * Lopi crosses his fingers Nov 16 08:29:04 PaulFertser, well all I have learned about linux has been through this project thus far, but yeah it's obvious ;p Nov 16 08:29:19 still very new to all this Nov 16 08:31:32 BTW, i consider it's a shame OE devs do not care enough to fix the bashisms and instead force devs to use bash. Nov 16 08:31:45 hm I might as well go make some food while this compiles Nov 16 08:32:10 btw, what's the advantage/disadvantage of bash, dash, and sh? Nov 16 08:32:18 guess I could google heh Nov 16 08:32:23 Lopi: you'll have plenty of opportunities for that, it might take more than 24 hrs :) Nov 16 08:32:25 brb Nov 16 08:32:37 Lopi: dash is much faster while still POSIX-compliant. Nov 16 08:32:43 PaulFertser, yeah to get this far has been a several days Nov 16 08:33:36 is dash usually the standard shell? Nov 16 08:34:44 Lopi: on ubuntu, yes Nov 16 08:36:07 PaulFertser: checkbashisms.bbclass was pushed just yesterday :) Nov 16 08:37:33 JaMa|Wrk: :) Nov 16 08:38:11 NOTE: Running task 63 of 10677 Nov 16 08:38:17 mm this might take awhile lol ;p Nov 16 08:40:07 Lopi: better to start with smaller image Nov 16 08:40:16 Lopi: ie minimal-image-with-mtd-tools :) Nov 16 08:40:29 hehe live and learn Nov 16 08:40:49 or just virtual/kernel to confirm that your setup is right and it's worth to continue with whole image Nov 16 08:43:07 ehm JaMa|Wrk would you mind? :) Nov 16 08:43:09 mokowm 823d3bfa136a534d97ddb65ec4b2c348ea46afe1 Nov 16 08:43:20 that's all for this month i guess :) Nov 16 08:43:24 PaulFertser: Lopi: zless /usr/share/doc/dash/NEWS.Debian.gz Nov 16 08:44:04 sorry :) Nov 16 08:46:03 lindi-: yes, but it doesn't really explain why it's not done with u-a. Nov 16 08:46:37 lindi-, I'll check it out Nov 16 08:46:46 btw, what distribution do you guys run? Nov 16 08:47:30 PaulFertser: I guess there was some inherent trickyness :) Nov 16 08:48:47 Lopi: debian :) Nov 16 08:49:22 I also run gentoo. Nov 16 08:49:23 Lopi: gentoo Nov 16 08:49:45 daniele_athome: ok Nov 16 08:49:55 thank you JaMa|Wrk Nov 16 08:50:42 yw Nov 16 08:53:05 ah, I haven't been brave enough to try gentoo yet Nov 16 08:53:57 there is minimalist chroot for OE based on gentoo, available on shr buildhost Nov 16 08:54:19 why hasen't kergoth added a recipe for checkbashisms-native too? Nov 16 08:54:44 Heinervdm: why recipe? Nov 16 08:55:33 JaMa|Wrk: then it would be installed automatically and one could remove bash from sanity check Nov 16 08:55:43 Heinervdm: ah I see Nov 16 08:56:38 I didn't check how that bbclass actually works Nov 16 08:57:01 JaMa|Wrk: i know why... it's a perl script Nov 16 09:30:15 mrmoku: does phoneuid check state of fsogsmd on start, or does it only wait for SIM_READY signal? because everytime i wait a bit longer with first time wizard on first boot, the pin dialog doesn't come up... Nov 16 09:42:07 mrmoku: the problem is, one has to wait till fsogsmd is started to sucessfull finisch the wizard, but when you wait, you wont get the pin dialog... Nov 16 09:54:40 Heinervdm: phoneuid or phonefsod? Nov 16 09:57:08 Heinervdm: on start phonefsod dbus-activates fsogsmd... and then waits for the resource to appear Nov 16 09:57:55 Heinervdm: if the resource appears it requests it Nov 16 09:59:49 Heinervdm: when requesting was successfull it will wait for a DeviceStatus signal from fsogsmd Nov 16 10:00:49 Heinervdm: if that is FREE_SMARTPHONE_GSM_DEVICE_STATUS_ALIVE_SIM_LOCKED it will tell phoneuid to show the PIN dialog Nov 16 10:02:01 Heinervdm: does the wizard run _before_ phoneuid is started? Nov 16 10:12:09 Heinervdm: anyway... will update my gta02, rm -rf .e and try to debug it Nov 16 10:17:40 I'm trying to remove those debug messages from gsm-gadget (illume module) but it seems they are not in illume code, someone knows where are they from? Nov 16 10:18:01 filling /var/log/Xsession.log with imho useless info Nov 16 10:19:25 mrmoku: i haven't checked but it seems that phonuid is started after wizard Nov 16 10:19:36 ok Nov 16 10:24:03 JaMa|Wrk: possible we still use the one from old illume? Nov 16 10:25:31 mrmoku: i think it is sht that we build seperately Nov 16 10:26:01 because after the last bump, the gsm gadget was also gone Nov 16 10:26:09 isn't it part of shr-e-gadgets? Nov 16 10:26:39 Heinervdm: ahh... right you are :-) Nov 16 10:27:22 JaMa|Wrk: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr-e-gadgets.git;a=blob;f=src/shelf-gadgets/e_mod_gad_gsm.c;h=76e39c0520be9e96bf0de565e15980fbcfb51c3a;hb=master Nov 16 10:29:08 JaMa|Wrk: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr-e-gadgets.git;a=blob;f=src/shelf-gadgets/e_mod_gad_gsm.c;h=76e39c0520be9e96bf0de565e15980fbcfb51c3a;hb=master#l412 Nov 16 10:29:18 it's that line, isn't it? Nov 16 10:31:39 or line 468 Nov 16 10:33:46 why are there so many printf in that gadget Nov 16 10:34:08 Heh, with strace fsogsmd is stable for me so far. Nov 16 10:35:15 mickey|office: btw, the fact fsodeviced doesn't reregister its resources after fsousaged restart has quite a nasty effect when automatic suspend is enabled: it suspends during a call :( Nov 16 10:38:14 yes Nov 16 10:38:28 when does ssh start? i can see the wizard, but can't connect via ssh Nov 16 10:39:16 mrmoku: phoneuid is running Nov 16 10:40:01 mrmoku: this time pin showed up Nov 16 10:40:48 ah both right :) Nov 16 10:41:13 Heinervdm: I have gadget shown ok Nov 16 10:41:17 Heinervdm: hmm Nov 16 10:41:21 ah "was" Nov 16 10:41:48 JaMa|Wrk: i think we can put all those printf in that file in #ifdef DEBUG Nov 16 10:41:50 Heinervdm: same printfs are in old illume version but commented out Nov 16 10:41:58 Heinervdm: yes, that's my plan Nov 16 10:45:16 hrmf. Nov 16 10:45:20 *** glibc detected *** mokohome: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0x00115e20 *** Nov 16 10:45:50 Heinervdm: yeah, got a PIN dialog too... the lock screen while wizard is running is a bit disturbing though Nov 16 10:47:32 mrmoku: what's annoying is, that you have to wait till the first lock to finisch the wizard Nov 16 10:56:17 yeah Nov 16 10:58:47 heh Nov 16 10:58:51 WSoD is back :( Nov 16 10:59:49 mickey|office: did you habe time to look at gta02? i tried to look at it but i can't find the code for FsoFramwork.CommandQueue, because i think the timeout has to be somewhere in channel.close() Nov 16 11:57:33 gnaaaah. current mokowm/mokohome/... works; but the vkbd does neither have working shift nor ctrl Nov 16 11:58:10 and no escape key neither Nov 16 11:58:33 Wonka: what's the name of the keyboard? Nov 16 11:58:48 lindi-: it's mokowm internal Nov 16 11:59:06 need to wait until daniele is back online Nov 16 11:59:11 Wonka: so it doesn't even have a name? Nov 16 11:59:26 lindi-: vkbd.c ;) Nov 16 11:59:59 git://gitorious.org/mokosuite2/mokowm.git Nov 16 12:22:47 The page http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Dream looks vandalized Nov 16 12:25:03 mrmoku: WSoD? :/ like real WSod? Nov 16 12:26:02 JaMa|Wrk: the one that recovers on blank/unblank Nov 16 12:27:49 root@om-gta02 ~ # cat /proc/version Nov 16 12:27:49 Linux version 2.6.34.7 (shr@opmbuild) (gcc version 4.5.2 20101105 (prerelease) (GCC) ) #1 Sat Nov 13 12:25:09 CET 2010 Nov 16 12:32:59 hmm only change would be that xf86-video-glamo change Nov 16 12:35:54 morning Nov 16 12:56:41 blindcoder, thanks fixed Nov 16 13:02:20 GNUtoo|laptop: Hi, do you have that binconfig patch updated? Nov 16 13:02:41 JaMa|Wrk, ah I just python-ified it Nov 16 13:02:42 GNUtoo|laptop: if it works for you, please send it as reply to your post on oe-devel ML Nov 16 13:02:54 I had a compilation failure for micro Nov 16 13:03:01 I didn't look into it yet Nov 16 13:03:18 ah ok Nov 16 13:03:53 can you pastebin it? I would like to see how it's pythonifed :) Nov 16 13:09:16 ok Nov 16 13:10:30 http://pastebin.com/nsDXcANf Nov 16 13:13:11 thx Nov 16 13:14:13 is the python-ification ok? Nov 16 13:16:43 yes Nov 16 13:19:14 morning Nov 16 13:25:08 GNUtoo|laptop: ah I know why it doesn't work for me :) -e 's:=\(\"\?\)${SLASH_PREFIX}:=\1OEPREFIX:' is in run.binconfig_sysroot_preprocess.3134 Nov 16 13:29:03 fixed Nov 16 13:38:28 GNUtoo|laptop: sent to ML, please try with micro, but I've tried it with empty prefix and it looked ok (in libmikmod test) Nov 16 13:38:41 ok Nov 16 13:38:44 I've an issue with micro: Nov 16 13:39:13 http://pastebin.com/Ahu5Wvph Nov 16 13:40:10 configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables and see config.log Nov 16 13:40:15 can you pastebin config.log? Nov 16 13:41:05 GNUtoo|laptop: and in that version you sen't SLASH_PREFIX is not used as variable.. that's why no / is replaced with OEPREFIX.. so it should fail Nov 16 13:41:37 the config.log isn't very promizing Nov 16 13:41:47 I'll pastrebin it Nov 16 13:42:47 see in patch: s += " -e 's:=%s%s:=\\1OEPREFIX:'" % (optional_quote, SLASH_PREFIX) Nov 16 13:43:14 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lintl Nov 16 13:43:22 I remembered something else tough Nov 16 13:43:35 it still can be from wrong -L Nov 16 13:44:12 but who knows if micro-uclibc worked before this change :) Nov 16 13:46:18 ah ok Nov 16 13:46:55 full file: http://pastebin.com/WqMcCMnJ Nov 16 13:46:59 I'll revert the change Nov 16 13:47:05 and rebuild from scratch Nov 16 13:47:12 note that I tried for mips Nov 16 13:55:28 * JaMa|Wrk building micro/spitz/minimal-image Nov 16 14:12:53 hi guys Nov 16 14:14:07 does someone can help me to use my usbnet to my pre 2 as an "internet" connection? Nov 16 14:25:11 GNUtoo|laptop: hi. do you have some hint about my question? Nov 16 14:34:59 GarthPS_, usbnet already works? Nov 16 14:35:23 JaMa|Wrk, still the same issue without our patches... Nov 16 14:35:30 should I try another arch? Nov 16 14:36:51 GNUtoo|laptop: yep Nov 16 14:37:16 ok then use that: Nov 16 14:38:13 echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward Nov 16 14:38:13 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE Nov 16 14:38:13 iptables -A FORWARD -j ACCEPT Nov 16 14:39:14 mickey|office: what is the state of libfso-glib regarding gdbus? Is the gdbus branch working? Nov 16 14:39:19 Well work only if his host connectes to the internet via wlan0. Nov 16 14:39:27 GNUtoo|laptop: on the pre I presume? Nov 16 14:39:28 * mrmoku is looking into converting phonefsod to gdbus Nov 16 14:39:43 Also default policy for any chain is ACCEPT, so the third line looks unnecessary. Nov 16 14:39:43 GarthPS_, no Nov 16 14:39:48 GarthPS_, on your laptop Nov 16 14:40:22 GarthPS_, and as PaulFertser said, replace wlan0 by the interface your laptop connect to the interet with Nov 16 14:40:30 mrmoku, btw, afaik gdbus needs glib>=2.25 and there's only 2.24 in OE. We should try compiling newer one. Nov 16 14:40:32 GarthPS_, after that ping an ip from the pre Nov 16 14:40:40 GNUtoo|laptop: and that should be all ? Nov 16 14:40:48 pespin: ohh... that would indeed be a blocker :P Nov 16 14:41:21 Oh guys I want to use the interne connection OF my pre TO my laptop. are you say this side? Nov 16 14:41:30 GarthPS_, no but that's a start Nov 16 14:41:58 GarthPS_: then just do the opposite Nov 16 14:41:59 hmm... my fedora has 2.26... Nov 16 14:42:13 GarthPS_: enable ip forwarding on pre and set up iptables to MASQUERADE Nov 16 14:42:22 yes, 2.26 is newest one, was released no so long ago Nov 16 14:42:30 GarthPS_: easy as that, i can't see any obstacles. Nov 16 14:43:02 GarthPS_: (masquerade is a special type of SNAT, it'll use the current IP of the -o interface, exactly what you need there) Nov 16 14:43:33 PaulFertser: so some thing like sthis on the pre : echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o usb0 -j MASQUERADE iptables -A FORWARD -j ACCEPT right ? Nov 16 14:43:45 GarthPS_: wrong Nov 16 14:43:48 JaMa|Wrk: do you have newer glib somewhere in your queue? Nov 16 14:44:05 GarthPS_: you want to masquerade packets going out to the internet, so in -o you should specify your "wan" interface. Nov 16 14:44:08 GarthPS_, you want to do tethering Nov 16 14:44:14 you need an additional thing then Nov 16 14:44:16 mrmoku, we should try building/using glib 2.26 before using gdbus apps, to look if some issues arise with new glib apart from gdbus Nov 16 14:44:19 JaMa|Wrk: nvm... will postpone that a bit Nov 16 14:44:37 GarthPS_: instead of echo you might to "sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1" but that's irrelevant. Nov 16 14:44:38 pespin: yeah, just decided to take a look at trac.shr-project.org instead ,) Nov 16 14:44:53 mrmoku: worth a try. i only use it for the server implementations and these can't be switched until all of fso has been converted, the client implementation might just work Nov 16 14:45:06 iptables -I FORWARD 1 -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN -j TCPMSS --clamp-mss-to-pmtu # /!\run this line only if you have ppp Nov 16 14:45:35 GNUtoo|laptop: this line is only if you have a brain-dead ISP :E Nov 16 14:45:53 ah ok lol Nov 16 14:46:04 GNUtoo|laptop: yes tethering. Nov 16 14:46:15 I am not sur eto understan the joke Nov 16 14:46:24 such is mine :((( but i do not use that line, i instead specify a lower mtu manually on all my devices so it keeps bothering me. Nov 16 14:47:00 PaulFertser, there were worse ISP Nov 16 14:47:02 GarthPS_: some isp are incompetent assholes, they do not fix their shit even when you explain them in details what's wrong, that's not a joke unfortunately. Nov 16 14:47:13 internet is about 30E/month here Nov 16 14:47:15 GNUtoo|laptop: no, I guess my micro/spitz test will be enough, thanks Nov 16 14:47:28 but there is an isp that charged 1E/day for beeing able to serve content Nov 16 14:47:54 that is about 30E/month + the normal 30E month, that made the internet connection 60E/month Nov 16 14:48:07 JaMa|Wrk, ok Nov 16 14:48:25 GNUtoo|laptop: my isp provides me with IP but filters out all connections to port 80, no matter how much one pays :/ Nov 16 14:48:33 mrmoku: good, I'm glad that my queue is now reasonably short :) Nov 16 14:48:36 PaulFertser, ouch Nov 16 14:48:51 mickey|office: so you don't build it with OE? Nov 16 14:48:56 just laptop? Nov 16 14:49:03 JaMa|Wrk: hehe, yeah :) Nov 16 14:50:16 GNUtoo|laptop: PaulFertser : so to some up if my isp is not to bad the last command from GNUtoo|laptop should work right? ogtherwise I have to use those 3 step (my interface betwenn my pre and my laptop is usbO not wlan 0) Nov 16 14:50:28 right ? Nov 16 14:50:46 GarthPS_: clamp-mtu-to-pmss should be unnesessary Nov 16 14:50:58 GarthPS_: on pre you will have ppp0 most probably so that should be -o ppp0 Nov 16 14:51:35 GarthPS_: hm, i'm not sure what to suggest. Probably "man iptables", it worked for me rather good. Nov 16 14:51:51 PaulFertser: oh right ok Nov 16 14:52:27 mrmoku: i can't test the whole system anyways Nov 16 14:52:45 the downside of the gdbus conversion is that you have to switch at once Nov 16 14:52:57 I try this now Nov 16 14:53:21 however you may be able to use the client interface already Nov 16 14:54:28 mickey|office: yeah, but glib in OE is too old Nov 16 14:55:35 yes Nov 16 14:55:42 we need 2.26.0 minimum Nov 16 14:55:47 GarthPS_, so after doing my commands you have 2 choices Nov 16 14:55:55 *uses a dhcp server on the palm-pre Nov 16 14:56:05 *configure the network manually on your laptop Nov 16 14:56:09 mickey|office: will just postpone my gdbus plans for a bit... and try to do other usefull stuff :-) Nov 16 14:56:11 choice2 is easy Nov 16 14:56:35 I'm not sure how to do choice1 because you don't run SHR on it yet Nov 16 14:56:52 ok Nov 16 14:57:17 fortunatelly there is enough to do every so I can choose :P Nov 16 14:57:29 GNUtoo|laptop: when you says "my commands" which one you means? Nov 16 14:57:54 heh even in gentoo glib-2.26.0 is still masked Nov 16 14:59:18 GarthPS_, : http://pastebin.com/Jbt8BguY Nov 16 14:59:30 GarthPS_, change ppp0 with the interface that connects to the internet Nov 16 14:59:35 heh... ArchLinux has 2.26.0 and Fedora 14 too Nov 16 15:00:42 GNUtoo|laptop: coool! thx! much clearer! :) (webirc interface is not as readable as a real irc app) Nov 16 15:01:01 ok Nov 16 15:02:21 GNUtoo|laptop: there is a thing that i don't understand. for the moment ( zero commands entered,) I am already connected to the pre so why are talking about worring about ip ? Nov 16 15:03:05 GarthPS_ ??? Nov 16 15:03:21 GarthPS_, I'll explain what the command do Nov 16 15:03:31 you have laptop<->palm_pre Nov 16 15:03:43 but the palm-pre doesn't act as a router, and your laptop doesn't either Nov 16 15:03:56 running the commands doesn't change the ip or whatever Nov 16 15:04:05 it only makes the pre act as a router Nov 16 15:04:12 if you use the good interface Nov 16 15:04:22 then on your laptop you will need some other commands Nov 16 15:06:38 the laptop command include messing with route, and /etc/resolv.conf Nov 16 15:06:41 no ip involved Nov 16 15:06:45 s/ip/ifconfig Nov 16 15:07:37 GNUtoo|laptop:yeah so if you say that i does not change the ip why do you speak about 2 choices : dhcp or manually configuring . if i have already a link working . ah ok to tell the laptop the its connectio with the pre can provide internet acces right ? Nov 16 15:08:23 the second thing doesn't mess with the ip Nov 16 15:08:54 dhcp messes with the ip, but that's not the interesging part, the interesting part is that it configures route and /etc/resolv.conf too while messing with the ip Nov 16 15:09:04 first Nov 16 15:09:19 localize the interface that connects to the internet on your pre Nov 16 15:09:23 ask morphis if unsure Nov 16 15:09:39 GNUtoo|laptop: ppp0 Nov 16 15:14:14 GNUtoo|laptop: I try some thing (will lost connection ) Nov 16 15:14:29 ok Nov 16 15:23:39 GNUtoo|laptop: :..( Nov 16 15:34:38 mickey|office: any idea about when we could start to use gdbus fso2 in real life? or is it still far enough away that it's worth for me to add bluetoothd starting in fsodeviced master? Nov 16 15:35:05 GarhPS, ? Nov 16 15:36:15 GNUtoo|laptop: I did those 4 sept on the pre and just try to un plug/plug the usb cable to see what is comming. and ... nothing Nov 16 15:36:28 (I am not very good at networking) Nov 16 15:36:35 nothing means? Nov 16 15:36:45 I told you you needed commands on the laptop Nov 16 15:37:01 GNUtoo|laptop: means I can ssh into the pre but no internet conenction on the laptiop Nov 16 15:37:09 ah ok that's perfectly normal Nov 16 15:37:19 I just wanted to do one thing at a time Nov 16 15:37:19 GNUtoo|laptop: :) oh I rty some thing in resolv.conf Nov 16 15:37:27 next: Nov 16 15:37:32 route del default Nov 16 15:37:46 route add default gw 192.168.0.202 Nov 16 15:37:55 GNUtoo|laptop: (thx for your help by the way!!!!) Nov 16 15:38:05 GNUtoo|laptop: on the laptop I suppose :) Nov 16 15:38:05 ping 91.198.174.232 Nov 16 15:38:13 ssh into the pre Nov 16 15:38:20 cat /etc/resolv.conf Nov 16 15:38:30 and copy the result in /etc/resolv.conf of your laptop Nov 16 15:38:32 yes laptop Nov 16 15:38:42 it will disconnect your laptop Nov 16 15:38:46 from the internet Nov 16 15:38:53 if it's already connected trough wifi Nov 16 15:38:56 if not it's fine Nov 16 15:39:04 and run all that as root Nov 16 15:39:54 GNUtoo|laptop: ok I try it Nov 16 15:46:42 mrmoku: everything but fsousaged has been converted Nov 16 15:46:59 fsousaged is the showstopper since it uses a feature (implicit transfer of sender identity) that's not mapped in gdbus yet Nov 16 15:47:03 gdbus/vala, that is Nov 16 15:47:07 two options Nov 16 15:47:13 1.) waiting for the feature Nov 16 15:47:24 2.) changing the API for fsousaged Nov 16 15:47:42 opinions? Nov 16 15:51:41 GNUtoo|laptop: ping from laptopdid not work befor and after editing resolv.Conf Nov 16 15:52:06 GarthPS, did you try the route command? Nov 16 15:52:14 what's the ip of the usbnet of the pre? Nov 16 15:52:17 mrmoku: (on a sidenote, i did some work on process dependencies, so bluetoothd starting/shutting down should be relatively simple to complete...) Nov 16 15:52:24 bbl Nov 16 15:52:54 I begin to be sick of this fucking provider..(they told me that it could be possible to use my pre as acces point ...) Nov 16 15:53:17 GNUtoo|laptop: yop I did all command you said Nov 16 15:54:20 hmmm Nov 16 15:54:21 GNUtoo|laptop: 192.128.0.200 from the laptop Nov 16 15:54:27 ok Nov 16 15:54:33 168 Nov 16 15:54:59 GNUtoo|laptop: 192.168.0.200 Nov 16 15:55:07 * GNUtoo|laptop said : Nov 16 15:55:18 route add default gw 192.168.0.202 Nov 16 15:55:36 pastebin the output of route on your laptop Nov 16 15:55:49 GNUtoo|laptop: :D... how ? Nov 16 15:56:02 run : Nov 16 15:56:03 route Nov 16 15:57:10 GNUtoo|laptop: http://pastebin.com/gHwQyxt5 Nov 16 15:57:43 default 192.168.5.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlan0 Nov 16 15:57:46 here you go Nov 16 15:57:54 you're on your pre? Nov 16 15:58:03 from where is irc running? Nov 16 15:58:46 GNUtoo|laptop: webchat.freenode.net from my laptop Nov 16 15:59:00 ok Nov 16 15:59:07 you didn't change the route Nov 16 15:59:12 you're root? Nov 16 15:59:29 GNUtoo|laptop: I reboot my laptop since! Nov 16 15:59:31 GNUtoo|laptop: I did it as root yes Nov 16 15:59:33 so do that at root(will loose the connection on your laptop) Nov 16 15:59:37 route del default Nov 16 15:59:45 route add default gw 192.168.0.202 Nov 16 15:59:52 then remember the /etc/resolv.conf Nov 16 15:59:59 that is to say: Nov 16 16:00:04 ssh into your palm Nov 16 16:00:05 do : Nov 16 16:00:09 cat /etc/resolv.conf Nov 16 16:00:17 and copy that on your laptop Nov 16 16:00:24 in /etc/resolv.conf Nov 16 16:00:29 overwriting what you had already Nov 16 16:01:41 GNUtoo|laptop: It is what I did the first time and it did not work Nov 16 16:01:57 ok Nov 16 16:02:08 did you reboot your pre? Nov 16 16:02:10 GNUtoo|laptop: cat resolv.conf on the pre gives that nameserver 127.0.0.1 Nov 16 16:02:15 GNUtoo|laptop: nope Nov 16 16:02:17 ah ok Nov 16 16:02:20 fine Nov 16 16:02:24 better not rebooting it Nov 16 16:02:42 then put nameserver 192.168.0.202 in /etc/resolv.conf Nov 16 16:02:57 GarthPS, did you check if the openmoko wiki had some howto? Nov 16 16:03:11 GNUtoo|laptop: nope Nov 16 16:03:35 GNUtoo|laptop: as the freerunner does not have 3G.. Nov 16 16:03:58 GNUtoo|laptop: Ok I retest Nov 16 16:04:10 yes Nov 16 16:04:21 and don't reboot Nov 16 16:04:27 your laptop Nov 16 16:04:30 do tha instead: Nov 16 16:04:39 disconnect the wifi trough network manager Nov 16 16:04:44 try what I said Nov 16 16:05:04 and then if it doesn't work, use network manager for connecting trough wifi Nov 16 16:06:16 GNUtoo|laptop: ok Nov 16 16:06:45 GNUtoo|laptop: also network manager is stupid. it reconnect just after I disconnect.. Nov 16 16:07:08 GNUtoo|laptop: I will deactivate wifi Nov 16 16:07:20 ok Nov 16 16:07:58 i am gone Nov 16 16:14:30 GNUtoo|laptop: http://pastebin.com/nnwgZ18x Nov 16 16:15:37 GNUtoo|laptop: so still not working Nov 16 16:15:43 ok Nov 16 16:15:46 so 2 things wrong Nov 16 16:15:55 first your palm-pre isn't sharing the internet connection Nov 16 16:16:13 GNUtoo|laptop: perhaps it could be easier to find why palm'as app hostpot mobile does not work... Nov 16 16:16:17 and that ":~$ sudo cat /etc/resolv.conf => # Generated by NetworkManager" Nov 16 16:16:23 should be done on the palm-pre Nov 16 16:16:55 root@roadrunner:/var/home/root# cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 127.0.0.1 Nov 16 16:17:56 ah right Nov 16 16:18:12 I shouldn't be doing 2 things at once Nov 16 16:18:28 try to see why the palm-pre isn't exporting its internet connection Nov 16 16:18:41 are you really sure the interface is ppp0? Nov 16 16:18:44 GNUtoo|laptop: :s how? Nov 16 16:19:54 GNUtoo|laptop: http://pastebin.com/bE2Ktfa6 Nov 16 16:19:58 GNUtoo|laptop: yes Nov 16 16:20:04 is the pre connected to the internet? Nov 16 16:20:20 ok Nov 16 16:20:28 GNUtoo|laptop: yes ping 91.198.174.232 works from it Nov 16 16:20:29 hmmm Nov 16 16:20:52 retry my commands Nov 16 16:21:09 I think we'd better tank in #webos-internals Nov 16 16:21:15 because I don't know the pre well Nov 16 16:21:29 GNUtoo|laptop: I also tied this http://mytether.net/ but the app dose not launch ( webos 2.0 here) Nov 16 16:22:09 ok Nov 16 16:22:14 ask in #webos-internals Nov 16 16:22:37 GNUtoo|laptop: but perhaps I could find why the offical app for doing that by wifi does nto work.. Nov 16 16:22:56 GNUtoo|laptop: anyway thanks for your help!! Nov 16 16:23:33 ok Nov 16 16:30:42 mickeyl: difficult to answer without knowing a) when will that feature hit vala and b) what would the API change mean? Nov 16 16:31:35 mickeyl: if the 'implicit sender' will hit vala within the next weeks... or is it more months? :P Nov 16 16:32:33 mrmoku: alternative suggestion: implement the desired feature in vala :) Nov 16 16:36:35 PaulFertser: heh, yes Nov 16 17:11:29 omg, we have the smallest waves I have ever seen Nov 16 17:13:26 TAsn: -\inf ? Nov 16 17:14:15 no but for every x > 0 it's smaller than 1/x :( Nov 16 17:14:35 (in centimeters obviously, I'm not a crazy american that uses feet) Nov 16 17:16:13 TAsn: lol, take x=0.1, i agree 1 < 10 but it still doesn't sound right ;) Nov 16 17:16:50 > 0 Nov 16 17:16:53 not aspires to 0 Nov 16 17:17:07 (aspires? is that how you say it in english?) Nov 16 17:18:52 TAsn: converges? Nov 16 17:19:21 no Nov 16 17:19:30 for example Nov 16 17:19:49 the limit of f(x)=x when x->0 is 0 Nov 16 17:19:52 how do you say Nov 16 17:19:53 x->0 Nov 16 17:19:54 ? Nov 16 17:19:57 just approaches? Nov 16 17:20:02 nothing fancier? Nov 16 17:22:48 TAsn: guess yes, approaches. But 0.1 is also >0 so that is a valid choice according to your rules. Nov 16 17:23:22 it is Nov 16 17:23:34 but I don't get what you meant Nov 16 17:23:36 then Nov 16 17:24:43 TAsn: nm, that's too OT here :) Nov 16 17:25:06 cool :P Nov 16 19:35:10 With fsogsmd running under strace i'm not able to pickup the phone, everything's too slow, the network hangs up before i'm actually able to activate() the call. Nov 16 19:35:59 heh :/ Nov 16 19:36:37 you might be able to gain some speed by compiling with asserts disabled Nov 16 19:36:51 in that case the logging gets completely bypassed Nov 16 19:39:05 otherwise we pay for creating the logging strings Nov 16 19:39:10 even if they're muted @ runtime Nov 16 19:42:10 PaulFertser: it does too many syscalls then Nov 16 19:51:22 mickeyl: probably i'll try it on the next iteration, i'll try to live for 2-3 days with the current binary in the hope the bug will trigger somehow. Nov 16 19:52:05 lindi-: yes, integrated logging slows it down considerably. Nov 16 20:26:24 mickeyl: No handler for URC EXT w/ rhs I, please report to Mickey Nov 16 20:26:35 mickeyl: http://linux.fjfi.cvut.cz/~zub/SHR/fsogsmd.log - if you care Nov 16 21:05:21 was there any progress w.r.t. scaling keyboard/vala-terminal etc? Nov 16 21:05:46 I mean the bug that causes the kayboard to grow, and the fonts in vala-terminal to shrink **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Nov 17 02:59:57 2010