**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 29 02:59:57 2010 Nov 29 09:14:17 hello everybody Nov 29 09:14:53 lindi-: if it's the sdram interaction that fails somehow, how is it possible it resumes to some particular point? By reading from instruction cache? Nov 29 09:16:10 moin Nov 29 09:17:55 PaulFertser: I can read ramconsole contents so at least upper ram is alive Nov 29 09:18:14 PaulFertser: cache and mmu are disabled on resume afaik Nov 29 09:19:36 lindi-: cryptic bug... Nov 29 09:19:56 JaMa: hey Nov 29 09:20:58 PaulFertser: hey, any news about gta01? all I got was 1 response that mine build doesn't boot while his does and that's all :/ Nov 29 09:21:22 JaMa: i can try booting this week, now i have the converter to get the console at least. Nov 29 09:23:10 PaulFertser: I'm curious if it can be related to CONFIG_S3C_LOWLEVEL_UART_PORT CONFIG_DEBUG_S3C_UART settings Nov 29 09:23:28 JaMa: it's very likely to be related, yes, i remember some issues with that. Nov 29 09:23:35 PaulFertser: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/diff/recipes/linux/linux-openmoko.inc?id=2c2af6c62943057987a06da87ac0cd7f16754916 was fixing those in gta01 defconfigs, but make oldconfig resets those anyways Nov 29 09:23:59 JaMa: ok Nov 29 09:24:00 PaulFertser: are register contents zeroed on suspend for sure? Nov 29 09:24:07 lindi-: no idea Nov 29 09:25:02 PaulFertser: if it's crucial problem for booting then we should probably try to fix those i Kconfig Nov 29 09:25:09 s/i K/in K/ Nov 29 09:25:09 JaMa meant: PaulFertser: if it's crucial problem for booting then we should probably try to fix those in Kconfig Nov 29 09:47:29 * JaMa bumping evopedia SRCREV :) Nov 29 10:40:01 lindi-: "the internal reset signal will be asserted if one of wake-up sources is issued" Nov 29 10:40:55 gena2x: hmm, yes? Nov 29 10:43:34 lindi-: just reading s3c manual, no seems reset really do not reset all registers, so it's unclean Nov 29 10:44:00 lindi-: but why same registers with powered off core? Nov 29 10:44:03 *save Nov 29 10:44:44 gena2x: cpu regs are not preserved during suspend/resume cycle, except GSTATUS{0-3} Nov 29 10:44:57 (sorry for interrupting you) Nov 29 10:45:12 anarsoul: your comments are highly welcome, thanks :) Nov 29 10:45:26 interrupt me more in this way Nov 29 10:48:44 lindi-: if you have jtag it would be nice to check cpu status Nov 29 10:48:52 i.e. if mmu/caches are enabled Nov 29 10:50:53 if mmu is enabled it can be kernel fault Nov 29 10:51:50 anarsoul: he attached tlb cache Nov 29 10:51:58 anarsoul: to problem reporst Nov 29 10:52:07 anarsoul: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2309 Nov 29 10:52:26 anarsoul: as it has some valid records, i think mmu is enabled Nov 29 10:54:43 does anyone except lindi- can reproduce this issue? :) Nov 29 10:58:18 anarsoul: it is possible - rarely, my fr do not wake up Nov 29 10:58:42 anarsoul: lindi has this one per month Nov 29 10:59:12 anarsoul: so even if someone has it, it can't be identified as this issue Nov 29 10:59:22 or easily reproduced Nov 29 11:01:03 weird Nov 29 11:01:04 :) Nov 29 11:01:13 nice puzzle Nov 29 11:01:14 :) Nov 29 11:03:22 anyway lindi- seem close to solving it on his own Nov 29 11:08:37 lindi-: just idea, if we in suspend function can we start suspending just after resume? Nov 29 11:09:22 lindi-: about memory only idea that half of memory didn't exist self-refresh mode Nov 29 11:09:43 lindi-: of course aside of really weird stack corruptions Nov 29 11:11:34 lindi-: ah, no, forget my comments :) Nov 29 11:11:55 lindi-: i am just learning Nov 29 11:14:37 gena2x: lindi- : you can try to enable CONFIG_SAMSUNG_PM_CHECK in kernel Nov 29 11:14:50 just to check that there's no memory corruption Nov 29 11:15:43 and also look through steppingstone part of u-boot to ensure that it does not use memory at all Nov 29 11:59:44 anarsoul: are you 100% sure? Nov 29 12:00:16 anarsoul: I think other people have more frequent crashes due to other problems Nov 29 12:00:27 lindi-: nope Nov 29 12:00:35 gena2x: my FR wakes up every 10 minutes by RTC now, this probably triggers the issue more often Nov 29 12:03:06 anarsoul: contents of r8 register is set to c036e6c8 before suspend in C code Nov 29 12:03:30 anarsoul: since I see that value in r8 now it is either saved over suspend or the kernel restored it from stack Nov 29 12:06:34 lindi-: try compiling kernel with CONFIG_SAMSUNG_PM_CHECK enabled Nov 29 12:06:45 anarsoul: can you add this to the bug report? Nov 29 12:07:23 sorry, but I have no account on your bugtrack :) Nov 29 12:31:24 anarsoul: time to create one :P Nov 29 12:36:52 lindi-: only way is to find some unused fr and send to anarsoul :) Nov 29 12:39:24 gena2x: which s3c manual were you reading exactly btw? I think I only have um_s3c2442b_rev12.pdf Nov 29 12:39:55 lindi-: yes, i have same Nov 29 12:40:27 anarsoul: added your messages to bug tracker Nov 29 12:40:38 gena2x: where does it talk about registers and suspend? Nov 29 12:41:36 lindi-: search for 'wake-up from sleep mode' Nov 29 12:41:37 lindi-: in power management part Nov 29 12:42:56 lindi-: it is told that GSTATUS is preserved, and reset procedure, but nothing about ordinary registers :( Nov 29 12:43:55 gena2x: arm core is powered down in suspend, and I _really_ doubt that it preserves regs :) Nov 29 12:45:33 anarsoul: i know that only wake-up logic should be up, core voltage should be down (unless lindi- misses some patch from me for power consumption in suspend) and share your doubts about saving registers. but who knows, until this explicitly written :) Nov 29 12:46:34 anarsoul: probably most sure way just simply test this with jtag Nov 29 12:46:51 it's tricky. I don't know how to break at resume code with jtag Nov 29 12:47:23 lindi-: but really, this is very unlikely Nov 29 12:47:52 lindi-: break may be easy - add big loop to bootloader code Nov 29 12:48:14 loop for 5 seconds for example Nov 29 12:48:16 that complicates answering calls :P Nov 29 12:48:25 hehe Nov 29 12:49:10 ok but if registers are zeroed then the fact that $r8 contains pointer to a global variable proves that kernel has loaded its registers from stack Nov 29 12:49:31 hey, i thought u-boot first Nov 29 12:49:43 it not only load, but also set up mmu Nov 29 12:50:00 gena2x: u-boot does not touch $r8 in resume code Nov 29 12:50:15 u-boot also does not even know where kernel stack is Nov 29 12:50:24 since suspend is done by kernel, not u-boot Nov 29 12:50:52 really, check sdram status next time Nov 29 12:51:05 gena2x: I sent a patch to openocd folks already Nov 29 12:51:13 it adds support for dumping contents of physical memory Nov 29 12:51:15 gena2x: it's a bit tricky to test via jtag Nov 29 12:51:52 anarsoul: i told, add big loop to resume code and just interrupt while in that loop Nov 29 12:52:02 anarsoul: and see register Nov 29 12:52:16 anarsoul: one time is enough Nov 29 12:55:15 gena2x: btw, why care about register values? resume code should not depend on it Nov 29 12:56:16 anarsoul: agree, this that lindi- wanted to know Nov 29 12:56:54 anarsoul: it'd give me some idea where it crashed Nov 29 12:57:46 anyways, it would be really helpful if each function would set some unused register to a magic value Nov 29 12:57:53 is there some compiler hack to do this? Nov 29 12:58:22 heh, idea sounds cool Nov 29 12:58:54 but may be simpler to store in ram? :) Nov 29 12:59:04 I think it requires some gcc modification Nov 29 13:00:47 gena2x: yes if ram works Nov 29 13:01:05 lindi-: hm, reserve piece of sram from steppingstone to not depend on sdram Nov 29 13:01:28 gena2x: is the mapping there all the time? Nov 29 13:01:36 lindi-: yes Nov 29 13:02:26 lindi-: after boot. according to s3c manual... but may be something special for fr? pressing aux remaps? Nov 29 13:02:38 pressing aux indeed has evil effects Nov 29 13:03:09 gena2x: but for testing purposes, aux may be avoided Nov 29 13:04:16 unless the bug occurs since something short-circuits AUX at critical moment Nov 29 13:04:17 hmmm, maybe it's some bug in u-boot from nor? Nov 29 13:04:46 anarsoul: it does execute u-boot in nand Nov 29 13:04:54 lindi-: are you sure? Nov 29 13:04:54 :) Nov 29 13:05:02 anarsoul: we all hope nor u-boot has no relation for our fr expect aux pressed :) Nov 29 13:05:02 anarsoul: yes because I modified it to turn the vibrator on Nov 29 13:05:23 *except while Nov 29 13:05:37 lindi-: ah, ok Nov 29 13:46:00 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r3a385ea7a1c2 10/ (12 files in 6 dirs): msmcomm: implement initial part of the read_template message for the wms subsystem Nov 29 14:42:15 heyho Nov 29 15:01:31 morphis: (echo) Nov 29 15:02:45 GarthPS: heyho Nov 29 15:03:08 GarthPS: kernel takes some time ... Nov 29 15:03:16 morphis: ca roule ? (wie gest's?) Nov 29 15:03:26 as I have to some other things in parallel Nov 29 15:03:57 morphis: did you see that webos internal buils palm's kernel from their patches ? Nov 29 15:05:10 jepp Nov 29 15:05:21 but they have less patches than we have Nov 29 15:05:59 but I hope I will get it until the weekend Nov 29 15:06:04 morphis: yeah . it just though about that for cooperative recipe perhaps. at least the base Nov 29 15:08:01 ah ok Nov 29 15:08:21 maybe someday I want to get all the webos internals speed bump patches in our kernel too Nov 29 15:08:32 but before we do that we need some stable userland Nov 29 15:10:54 morphis: yop Nov 29 16:12:55 gena2x: have you thought about ordering a debug board? Nov 29 16:14:29 lindi-: really no spare $ atm :( Nov 29 16:15:01 lindi-: may be later Nov 29 16:16:48 gena2x: a friend here has one spare Nov 29 16:16:54 And also Mickey Nov 29 16:19:23 lindi-: hm. is it possible to send it? i can pay for transfer. i can send it back in case if he will change his mind :) Nov 29 16:20:35 gena2x: where do you live? Nov 29 16:20:54 lindi-: in Saint-Petersburg, in fact finland is close Nov 29 16:22:03 I can build and send a usuart<->usb converter if you need it. Nov 29 16:22:28 gena2x: not planning to visit finland? :) Nov 29 16:27:59 * gena2x thinking Nov 29 18:50:06 mrmoku, hi Nov 29 19:01:48 GNUtoo|laptop: hi Nov 29 19:02:08 any progress on the top-bar issue? Nov 29 19:02:14 no :/ Nov 29 19:02:25 so the dev is still not online? Nov 29 19:02:32 yup, just checked this second Nov 29 19:02:57 guess we will have to take a closer look ourselves Nov 29 19:03:17 ok Nov 29 19:03:22 btw. I used n900+intone+headphones Nov 29 19:03:26 works fine :) Nov 29 19:03:30 wow Nov 29 19:03:33 ok Nov 29 19:03:47 just the scenario switching does not work perfectly Nov 29 19:03:51 it works sometimes Nov 29 19:03:57 and sometimes it even hangs fsodeviced Nov 29 19:03:57 does it switch when headphones are inserted? Nov 29 19:04:05 yup... sometimes at least Nov 29 19:04:11 ok Nov 29 19:04:20 have to find out what's going on there Nov 29 19:06:36 ok Nov 29 19:06:55 I bet enlightenment uses svn and not git Nov 29 19:07:00 that won't make things easy Nov 29 19:08:00 GNUtoo|laptop: yup, that's one of my problems with enlightenment :P Nov 29 19:08:15 no nice 'gitk -- file/that/got/broken' Nov 29 19:08:21 to see the light Nov 29 19:08:40 indeed Nov 29 19:08:52 but...maybe we could use git-svn Nov 29 19:08:59 hmm Nov 29 19:09:19 maybe there even is a git repo of enlightenment out there somewhere... Nov 29 19:09:20 good idea Nov 29 19:11:13 0022 mok@gonzales[pts/1]:~/src/openmoko-> git svn clone http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e e Nov 29 19:11:36 there is Nov 29 19:11:37 let's see how long it takes :) Nov 29 19:11:39 (a git repo) Nov 29 19:11:41 TAsn: ahh :) Nov 29 19:11:42 and I use git svn Nov 29 19:11:55 cause I don't trust the french (the guys who maintain that git) Nov 29 19:11:56 :P Nov 29 19:12:08 yeah, one of the first hits googling for 'git enlightenment' was http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=contribute Nov 29 19:12:14 haha Nov 29 19:12:25 running the git svn clone now Nov 29 19:12:28 (j/k, that's not why I'm not using it, I'm not using it just because I found out about it after I decided to go for git svn) Nov 29 19:12:32 mrmoku, sloooowww :P Nov 29 19:12:47 ok... Nov 29 19:12:51 bbiab then ;) Nov 29 19:13:29 ciao. Nov 29 19:27:45 TAsn: how's efl coding coming along? :P Nov 29 19:30:11 TAsn: and what would be your suspect to look at for the broken toolbar? :-) Nov 29 19:30:20 (illume-indicator that is) Nov 29 19:31:06 TAsn: and btw. I installed connman... what now ? ;) Nov 29 19:46:57 TAsn: and... does systray work in illume2? Nov 29 19:55:49 hmm... there is meegotouchcp-connman... hmm Nov 29 19:56:34 so what should I work on? Nov 29 19:56:39 mickeyl, ping Nov 29 19:56:43 bluetooth? Nov 29 19:57:25 http://blog.gustavobarbieri.com.br/2010/01/02/enlightenment-meets-connman/ Nov 29 19:59:11 I'll send a mail to mickeyl then Nov 29 19:59:16 for the modem Nov 29 20:02:47 GNUtoo|laptop: how's elektranox coming along? still slowly? Nov 29 20:03:46 still slowly Nov 29 20:03:52 no progress since a long time Nov 29 20:03:54 on modem Nov 29 20:03:59 other progress on other stuff Nov 29 20:04:02 but not on modem Nov 29 20:05:01 ok Nov 29 20:09:13 for bluetooth how do we handle the mac address? Nov 29 20:10:05 hmm... no idea Nov 29 20:10:15 software thing I guess? Nov 29 20:10:17 because we must echo a mac address to a node Nov 29 20:10:21 to make it work Nov 29 20:10:30 else with 00:00:00:00:00:00 it doesn't work Nov 29 20:10:37 maybe similiar to wlan? Nov 29 20:10:44 how is wlan handled? Nov 29 20:10:52 via a script and udev Nov 29 20:10:57 does it have the same mac address every time? Nov 29 20:11:10 in other words does it work 100% of the time Nov 29 20:11:12 I think so Nov 29 20:11:20 at least it is consistantly wlan0 for me Nov 29 20:11:20 ah ok Nov 29 20:11:26 /etc/udev/scripts Nov 29 20:11:30 has nokia-n900-mac-hack.sh Nov 29 20:11:37 so maybe it didn't worrk because of firmware issue Nov 29 20:12:07 basically at first I tried to access the wifi without the firmware Nov 29 20:12:25 that happens to me too always Nov 29 20:12:36 and that creates a wlan1? Nov 29 20:12:44 hmm... no Nov 29 20:12:54 ok I'll check if I've that script Nov 29 20:12:58 thinking about it... firmware comes on ifconfig up Nov 29 20:13:05 mac is before Nov 29 20:13:10 I've it Nov 29 20:13:15 ok Nov 29 20:13:28 do you have /etc/wlan0mac ? Nov 29 20:14:24 yes along with Nov 29 20:14:28 wlan1mac wlan2mac Nov 29 20:15:07 maybe I should try with a fresh image Nov 29 20:15:13 btw we need the following oe things Nov 29 20:15:24 an init service for ondemand Nov 29 20:15:41 that could be done for shr only Nov 29 20:15:47 in shr-initscripts Nov 29 20:15:53 right? Nov 29 20:16:11 I think so, yes Nov 29 20:16:18 and we need more modules Nov 29 20:16:28 I don't know if adding _all_ modules is the way to go Nov 29 20:16:38 we probably should just add the ones needed Nov 29 20:16:56 the most important one being the touchscreen Nov 29 20:20:35 ok Nov 29 20:23:02 mrmoku, where are the commits for sound routing? cornucopia? Nov 29 20:24:27 GNUtoo|laptop: what do you mean? Nov 29 20:24:52 where fso does it's sound stuff? Nov 29 20:25:03 normally cornucopia config Nov 29 20:25:06 and fsodeviced Nov 29 20:25:08 no? Nov 29 20:27:42 fsodeviced.conf, yup Nov 29 20:27:55 ok Nov 29 20:28:11 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=blob;f=fsodeviced/src/lib/audiorouter.vala;h=d1195174124e50079e73c677435c664b34e682f5;hb=master Nov 29 20:28:29 GNUtoo|laptop: is that what you're looking for? Nov 29 20:29:17 probably not... quite empty :P Nov 29 20:29:29 I don't see your commit Nov 29 20:29:37 last n900 commit is about gpio Nov 29 20:30:37 GNUtoo|laptop: ahh... my scenarios? Nov 29 20:30:41 no, did not commit Nov 29 20:30:51 does not work as wanted yet :/ Nov 29 20:30:56 ah ok Nov 29 20:31:03 it's only some scenarios? Nov 29 20:31:06 or there is some code? Nov 29 20:31:15 only scenarios and a conf Nov 29 20:31:18 alsa.conf Nov 29 20:31:28 ok Nov 29 20:31:34 strange that it doesn't work properly Nov 29 20:31:36 can I try Nov 29 20:31:49 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/297737/ Nov 29 20:32:13 is /etc/freesmartphone/conf/nokia_n900/alsa.conf Nov 29 20:32:31 in there you need a directory alsa-default containing the scenario files Nov 29 20:32:45 I started with stereoout and headset Nov 29 20:33:12 got some more from maemo, but can't test them :P Nov 29 20:33:35 can you do a tarball or a commit? Nov 29 20:33:49 will give you a tarball Nov 29 20:33:56 ok thanks a lot Nov 29 20:34:02 as I said... sometimes I have fsodeviced not responding anymore to dbus Nov 29 20:34:20 I suspect that the problem is not in your state files Nov 29 20:35:06 GNUtoo|laptop: http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/n900/n900-alsa.tar.gz Nov 29 20:35:13 thanks a lot Nov 29 20:35:14 GNUtoo|laptop: yeah, possible Nov 29 20:38:13 mrmoku: got a step deeper with the shutdown bug. the muxer = null; results in a call of this: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=blob;f=libfsotransport/fsotransport/basetransport.vala#l521 (Posix.tcdrain( fd );) Nov 29 20:38:46 and somehow this tcdrain thinks that there is still sth to transmit and is waiting for it Nov 29 20:41:27 Heinervdm: ahh, ok Nov 29 20:42:07 mrmoku: i don't think that there is a bug in tcdrain Nov 29 20:42:27 so we have to find the reason why it's hanging Nov 29 20:43:17 Heinervdm: fd is connected to where? Nov 29 20:43:25 IOChannel Nov 29 20:43:47 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=blob;f=libfsotransport/fsotransport/basetransport.vala#l333 Nov 29 20:44:24 mrmoku, how do you switch? Nov 29 20:44:34 I can't make it work even once Nov 29 20:44:40 I plug and unplug the headset Nov 29 20:44:42 and nothing Nov 29 20:44:49 s/headset/headphones/ Nov 29 20:45:27 GNUtoo|laptop: you can switch manually with org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.SetScenario headset Nov 29 20:45:38 though sometimes it worked automatically for me Nov 29 20:45:51 ok Nov 29 20:45:56 also sometimes I get a new input device in dmesg Nov 29 20:45:58 sometimes not Nov 29 20:46:10 (for the headset buttons) Nov 29 20:47:27 ah ok Nov 29 20:48:49 <[Rui]> hi all Nov 29 20:49:29 hi [Rui] Nov 29 20:50:07 hmm... guess I have to learn git svn first... it is at r1572 :P Nov 29 20:50:18 * mrmoku does not want e16 commits ;) Nov 29 20:54:26 * mrmoku retries with -r 40000:HEAD :) Nov 29 20:59:13 dmesg is fine Nov 29 21:04:22 <[Rui]> is anyone else's SHR sending misterious text messages to another phone? :) Nov 29 21:04:36 <[Rui]> my gf's android keeps receiving messages from me (even though my phone was suspended) Nov 29 21:04:39 <[Rui]> so... weird. Nov 29 21:05:00 <[Rui]> it's either Android going way crazy, or freerunner waking up, sending and sleeping very fast Nov 29 21:05:11 <[Rui]> empty sms! Nov 29 21:05:33 [Rui]: can you check your bill if you've really send an sms? Nov 29 21:05:53 <[Rui]> Heinervdm: I don't have that detail easily available Nov 29 21:06:12 <[Rui]> whenever I remember to activate it I don't have the most recent bill at hand :) Nov 29 21:06:24 :) Nov 29 21:07:10 but one should get sth in /var/log/fsogsmd.log when sending an sms Nov 29 21:07:28 or it's the calypso without fso :) Nov 29 21:10:15 * mrmoku points his finger at android ;) Nov 29 21:11:22 if it's freerunner it would be difficult to send a message while it's suspended Nov 29 21:11:28 on htcdream it could be possible Nov 29 21:11:32 but not on freerunner Nov 29 21:11:52 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|laptop: could the gsm chip be doing it? Nov 29 21:12:31 yes it could, and we don't have its source code Nov 29 21:12:44 maybe port osmconbb on it? Nov 29 21:20:04 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|laptop: of course, it's a blob firmware, but is there any other such known case with this one? Nov 29 21:20:20 <[Rui]> or is this the first time you hear something so weird? Nov 29 21:20:47 [Rui], never eared of something like that Nov 29 21:20:59 [Rui], but I eared that operators do tricks to make you pay more Nov 29 21:21:10 they were some scandals like that in italy Nov 29 22:01:43 hm, I ^C-ed opkg during upgrade and now I'm getting: Nov 29 22:01:49 > * pkg_parse_from_stream_nomalloc: Excessively long line at 10. Corrupt file? Nov 29 22:02:12 any idea if this can be reasonably solved, or should I just reflash? Nov 29 22:03:54 zub: /var/lib/dpkg/status ? Nov 29 22:03:58 just edit the file Nov 29 22:04:01 and remove the ^@ Nov 29 22:04:03 thx, will try Nov 29 22:04:04 's Nov 29 22:13:20 GNUtoo: clone still running... at r43940 Nov 29 22:14:17 and current HEAD is at 55072 :/ Nov 29 22:14:30 ok Nov 29 22:30:58 leviathan, hi Nov 29 22:31:33 leviathan, after our exxam, will you work again on msm phones such as geeksphone and htcdream? Nov 29 22:31:49 tmzt_g2root: it seems to have worked (well, /var/lib/opkg/shr-all was the broken file in my case) Nov 29 22:32:09 GNUtoo: of course I will Nov 29 22:32:13 ok Nov 29 22:32:14 I wonder what damage it caused, but anyway... I can always reflash Nov 29 22:32:44 (I wondered becuse of gta04) Nov 29 22:33:31 I hope you bought a cable for saving the battery of the geeksphone Nov 29 22:38:15 hi pespin Nov 29 22:39:09 GNUtoo, hi :) Nov 29 22:40:19 FC Barcelona won 5-0 against Madrid :D Nov 29 22:40:50 ah? don't you watch the other match? Nov 29 22:41:01 GNUtoo, which other? Nov 29 22:41:04 wikileaks vs corrupt world Nov 29 22:41:10 lol Nov 29 22:41:21 I've heard something about it Nov 29 22:42:05 but seeing Mourinho's face when his team is loosing by 5.. has no price lol Nov 29 22:42:38 with the other match you can see the world leader's face Nov 29 22:42:43 GNUtoo, I heard wikileaks is having DDoS attacks or something similar Nov 29 22:42:49 when they learn what the cable said Nov 29 22:43:11 GNUtoo, where can I have more info about it? Nov 29 22:43:40 lemonde.fr,elpais,the guardian etc... Nov 29 22:44:11 ok, I'll look, thanks! Nov 29 22:44:45 or wikipedia Nov 29 22:44:54 look for wikileaks on wikipedia Nov 29 22:45:04 maybe it's better Nov 29 22:45:14 as it list the previous scandals too Nov 29 22:45:45 and has some background infos about wikileaks Nov 29 22:45:54 mickeyl: what are the consequences of turning off mux_auto_close for gta02? Nov 29 22:46:02 mickeyl: that works around the shutdown problem ;) Nov 29 22:48:34 mrmoku, systray works (only in late revisions! so make sure you are pretty up to date. connman - there's that module I forgot it's name. toolbar: sometime :P efl coding: awesome, almost done languages support. Nov 29 22:49:24 I'll try to sleep bye Nov 29 22:49:57 TAsn: yeah, got that connman icon in my toolbar now :) Nov 29 22:50:06 though it is missing the configuration part Nov 29 22:50:24 probably it would work, when I manually configure my network via dbus Nov 29 22:50:33 at least the offline toggle works :P Nov 29 22:51:37 :) Nov 29 22:51:43 mrmoku, k-s wrote it iirc Nov 29 22:51:45 ask him Nov 29 22:51:47 he's online Nov 29 22:52:07 k-s? Nov 29 22:52:23 http://blog.gustavobarbieri.com.br/2010/01/02/enlightenment-meets-connman/ Nov 29 22:52:29 gustavo is k-s? Nov 29 22:54:16 yes. Nov 29 22:54:21 ahh, ok Nov 29 23:02:06 mrmoku, still here? Nov 29 23:02:09 yup Nov 29 23:02:19 hm.. illume2 keyboard Nov 29 23:02:23 in landscape Nov 29 23:02:24 does it work? Nov 29 23:02:32 or is it stil broken? Nov 29 23:02:36 still* Nov 29 23:02:38 it somehow works... but is quite unusable Nov 29 23:02:42 as it is tooo big :P Nov 29 23:02:51 not much screen left for the actual content Nov 29 23:02:55 yeah Nov 29 23:02:58 but it's not broken Nov 29 23:02:59 right? Nov 29 23:03:08 (too big: I also noticed) Nov 29 23:04:21 mrmoku, ? :) Nov 29 23:04:22 TAsn: let me try... have my n900 booted next to me :) Nov 29 23:04:28 oh, ok. Nov 29 23:04:29 thanks. Nov 29 23:04:48 (you have illume-keyboard module on your n900?!) Nov 29 23:05:05 heh... hmm Nov 29 23:06:04 TAsn: strange thing... touchscreen is upside down... Nov 29 23:06:06 * mrmoku reboots Nov 29 23:06:11 grr Nov 29 23:07:29 TAsn: was playing with headset jack and fsodeviced behaving strangely Nov 29 23:07:53 TAsn: and n900 boots fast :) Nov 29 23:08:06