**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 26 02:59:56 2010 Dec 26 12:22:36 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * re1d8f33291cb 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/lowlevel_nokia900/plugin.vala: fsogsmd: lowlevel_nokia_n900: convert more netlink stuff Dec 26 12:51:30 ~nf Dec 26 12:51:31 The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at ~NF2. For help see ~NF-help) - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~RL - - - NEWSFLASH [2010-10-07] wiki is down, see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-October/063395.html Dec 26 12:53:13 hi all, perhpas the wrong channel, but how can i setup a keyboard? if i open a console, there is a keyboard for a split second and then it is obscured(?) by the console. Dec 26 12:54:06 <[Rui]> what are you using, edje ? Dec 26 12:56:27 latest shr-u with an opg update & upgrade 5 minutes ago Dec 26 12:59:12 <[Rui]> hms... Dec 26 12:59:56 <[Rui]> if you press the keyboard icon on top does it show up? Dec 26 13:00:25 there is no keyboard icon! Dec 26 13:00:47 <[Rui]> weird,,, Dec 26 13:00:58 i remeber i had to do something with the "wrench" a long time ago Dec 26 13:01:24 <[Rui]> can you ssh into it, stop X, remove ~/.e and start x again? Dec 26 13:01:29 ilume -> keyboard -> default Dec 26 13:02:27 language -> input mode settings -> use no input method (?) Dec 26 13:02:40 sure, just a sec Dec 26 13:04:56 same thing Dec 26 13:05:58 i got "home" "2 squares" "L" 1 square" "wrench" "clock" "signal strength" "battery" Dec 26 13:09:37 hmm. when i use calculator, a keyboard pops up Dec 26 13:13:31 ah, the 2 squares pops up a keyboard ! Dec 26 13:13:50 (second icon in the top row) Dec 26 13:34:55 <[Rui]> yeah :) Dec 26 16:24:23 PaulFertser: i finally setup openwrt and more i know about it more i like it. working flawless, any tools, full control, flexibility, easy and powerful setup. i turned my bridged wifi-switch into complete flexible linux box, setup it quite fast and most interesting for some unknown reason my wifi is able to transfer files with 4-5 MiB/s, while before 1MiB/s were great luck. openwrt is nice thing and definetly worth flashing on anything supported :) Dec 26 16:24:47 gena2x: I'm glad you liked it :D Dec 26 16:25:21 PaulFertser: this is how linux should work... Dec 26 16:25:25 :) Dec 26 16:29:19 gena2x: how much flash have you got, what wifi driver are you using, what extra cool apps do you have installed on your router, have you used Luci? Dec 26 16:30:19 PaulFertser: i just took really simple and non-invasive way -> resetup bootloader to boot from network Dec 26 16:31:06 and this even probably faster than loading and unpacking(specially unpacking) from flash Dec 26 16:31:50 had some real but minor pain in network setup via serial and basic understanding of layout Dec 26 16:32:22 but after ssh pubkey working it became really enjoyable Dec 26 16:33:14 i just setup basic WPA2, removed hated bridged mode, iptables, and really enjoy ability to simple tcpdump Dec 26 16:33:47 also i know that in case of further expirement i can just build second image and mount it overn NFS Dec 26 16:35:06 nothing really special, but it's really amazing that this thing works... with help of freerunner's serial ports :) Dec 26 16:35:07 gena2x: yes, that's the real flexibility :) Dec 26 16:38:07 it has not much ram (16mb), and it is real case where uclibc and busybox are exactly made for. Now i have amd62, x86, arm and mips linuxes %) Dec 26 16:38:14 *amd64 Dec 26 16:40:22 I also have a fakemips (rtl8186) at home Dec 26 16:40:30 (but no amd64) Dec 26 16:40:49 <[Rui]> gena2x: oh... if only you could fix my WS issue :) Dec 26 16:43:55 gena2x: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexra Dec 26 16:44:58 [Rui]: ok, let's try to do it now Dec 26 16:58:01 In fact http://jonahprobell.com/lexra.html is an interesting read about that IP shit and the history of mips. Dec 26 17:06:22 wpwrak_: hey, long time no see, how are things? Dec 26 17:12:43 error: Couldn't resolve host 'git.shr-project.org' Dec 26 17:12:45 hi mickey|xmas Dec 26 17:13:23 hi GNUtoo|laptop Dec 26 17:13:27 juergbi fixed vala Dec 26 17:13:35 and i cut a new snapshot Dec 26 17:13:45 nice Dec 26 17:13:46 so mdbus2 should now compile Dec 26 17:14:02 fatal: Unable to look up git.freesmartphone.org (port 9418) (Name or service not known) Dec 26 17:14:07 hmm Dec 26 17:14:12 maynbe my internet is too slow Dec 26 17:14:23 I'm doing some ssh push to a remote server Dec 26 17:14:24 yep Dec 26 17:14:26 works everything from here Dec 26 17:14:30 ok nice Dec 26 17:14:34 *nod* dns timeout then Dec 26 17:14:39 me git reset --hard and will retry after Dec 26 17:14:56 i'm fighting agtainst dbus <-> glib cyclic dependency now Dec 26 17:15:40 ok Dec 26 17:16:28 my mail to ofono did not appear in the archives nor did i receive a moderated notice Dec 26 17:16:37 i guess they just dump non-subscribers to /dev/null Dec 26 17:16:49 ok Dec 26 17:18:21 what are your next steps wrt. n900? Dec 26 17:18:33 for now, none Dec 26 17:18:44 I finish to make a replicant release Dec 26 17:18:52 and then I will work on what need work Dec 26 17:19:19 release need 2 rebases and one inclusion of gps Dec 26 17:19:22 that's all Dec 26 17:21:37 what was done with n900 when I was away? Dec 26 17:21:37 btw mrmoku|i` is in italy, do you know where? is he hidding from me? Dec 26 17:21:47 they're at his wife's family Dec 26 17:21:55 probably without internet Dec 26 17:21:58 ah ok Dec 26 17:22:04 milan or another city? Dec 26 17:22:12 no idea i'm afraid Dec 26 17:22:20 mrmoku worked a) on 2.6.37 and b) on lowlevel_n900 Dec 26 17:22:36 ok Dec 26 17:22:38 i added a bunch of requirements to vala to help him with lowlevel_n900 Dec 26 17:22:40 no news after that Dec 26 17:22:40 but it's not complete yet Dec 26 17:22:47 no, xmas was after that :) Dec 26 17:22:50 ok so I should wait before compiling Dec 26 17:23:02 | checking /usr/bin/valac is at least version 0.9.7... no Dec 26 17:23:09 because I've that: ^^^ Dec 26 17:23:25 did vala build? Dec 26 17:23:29 what is bailing out? Dec 26 17:23:38 I'll look Dec 26 17:23:49 no, it was a race Dec 26 17:26:58 hmm Dec 26 17:27:15 what is david workin on these days? Dec 26 17:27:25 leviathan? Dec 26 17:27:26 nothing Dec 26 17:27:28 exams Dec 26 17:28:16 when he'll finish exams Dec 26 17:28:21 he'll work on dream again Dec 26 17:30:14 hmm Dec 26 17:30:18 someone should give him a palm or a n900 Dec 26 17:30:24 this is where the action is ;) Dec 26 17:30:25 I've a nexusone Dec 26 17:30:48 altough I don't think he can write an alsa driver from scratch alone Dec 26 17:31:17 he could buy a cheap palm-pre not-plus not-2 Dec 26 17:31:25 yea Dec 26 17:32:58 personally I can't Dec 26 17:33:02 not price Dec 26 17:33:05 but country Dec 26 17:33:20 and sim-lock Dec 26 17:33:30 and n900 is sufficent Dec 26 17:33:33 yep Dec 26 17:33:35 the issue is that I need a phone Dec 26 17:33:40 n900 doesn't do phone yet Dec 26 17:33:43 so I use htcdream Dec 26 17:33:57 that's kind of problematic Dec 26 17:35:31 yeah Dec 26 17:35:36 so we need to get phone going... Dec 26 17:35:40 asap Dec 26 17:36:23 what's sre's plan? Dec 26 17:43:16 university I think Dec 26 17:43:16 maybe we should ~curse university Dec 26 17:43:16 hehe Dec 26 17:43:16 ya, it's just a distraction ;) Dec 26 17:43:16 altough it permit us to learn stuff Dec 26 17:43:17 which we re-use in the phone liberation Dec 26 17:43:20 right Dec 26 18:03:31 mickey|xmas, why mrmoku|i` bumped kernel to 2.6.35? Dec 26 18:20:59 mickey|xmas: heya ! tired ... lots of partying these days :) Dec 26 19:17:27 mickey|xmas: some lists don't send a notice when mail is held for moderation Dec 26 20:10:18 <_seeker20_> hello Dec 26 20:10:45 <_seeker20_> ive an problem with libphone-ui Dec 26 20:19:50 _seeker20_, if you don't tell what problem you have, nobody will read your problem and so nobody would know how to answer, and so nobody would answer Dec 26 20:19:57 hi btw Dec 26 20:22:36 <_seeker20_> yeah okay he wouldnt compile. see http://pastebin.de/13311 Dec 26 20:24:32 <_seeker20_> the openembedded git repo is actual on my system. Dec 26 20:39:18 uhm, I thought that gdbus vala calls were non blocking, but they are actually blocking my elementary UI for emtooth :S Dec 26 20:40:50 and this means that ie. pairing is not working Dec 26 22:19:56 yay great! I'm able to pair openmoko<->PC using the 1st C version in openmoko and the vala version in PC :) Dec 26 22:21:03 Vala version just needs a pair of fixes to be more stable and it will overide the C version Dec 26 22:22:40 lol btw, speaking about emtooth Dec 26 22:58:53 pespin_, I depend a lot on emtooth Dec 26 22:59:05 thanks for making it Dec 26 22:59:12 even if it doesn't work so well Dec 26 22:59:18 I manage to make it working with triicks **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Dec 27 02:59:57 2010