**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 27 02:59:57 2010 Dec 27 03:42:23 anyone know what happened to projects.openmoko.org? Dec 27 05:48:29 pabs3: shutdown, it was on ML Dec 27 05:48:48 got a URL/msgid? Dec 27 05:55:12 JaMa|Zzz: ^ Dec 27 05:57:48 pabs3: http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/qyfArxjs3s8KH9JXIdVY Dec 27 05:59:01 I see, no-one to maintain it Dec 27 05:59:34 might be better to add a redirect to a page on the wiki explaining the situation Dec 27 12:04:41 hmmm n900 can't boot 2.6.35 Dec 27 12:05:00 because of the lack of config cmdline Dec 27 12:05:22 i take the htcdream to go out then Dec 27 12:08:15 there is CMDLINE_nokia900_shr in linux/linux_2.6.35.bb, so what do you mean by missing cmdline? Dec 27 12:09:25 maybe it's because there is root=/dev/mmcblk1p2 not p1? Dec 27 12:13:48 yes Dec 27 12:14:25 i have to go Dec 27 12:14:41 altough it said missing root= Dec 27 12:25:12 JaMa|Wrk: should we change that to p1? Dec 27 12:25:29 pespin: good news Dec 27 12:25:48 yes I have changed it locally and pushed it to rebased http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=n900-oe.git;a=summary Dec 27 12:26:16 ok, thanks. will merge it back to .dev then Dec 27 12:26:22 with updated expected partition layout for u-boot it should really be p1 Dec 27 12:26:49 right. so you feel u-boot is good to go on n900 these days? can you dual boot into maemo with it? Dec 27 12:28:02 I'm not sure about this "better fix for gcc" http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?h=org.openembedded.dev&id=75527d4842223cc831b2eaaed0150f28ff467014 Dec 27 12:29:01 I was testing it while booting to maemo (where I've first seen that issue with gcc-4.5) and it still works 100%, but booting to shr now sometimes hangs on "Starting kernel" Dec 27 12:29:14 hmm, interesting Dec 27 12:29:31 so I reverted back to binary built with gcc-4.1.2 and it's much more reliable again Dec 27 12:32:00 ok Dec 27 12:52:36 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rf33ee8cadb3a 10/libfsobasics/vapi/ (libnl-2.0.vapi linux.vapi): libfsobasics: delete private vapi copies for stuff that is now upstream Dec 27 13:42:10 mickeyl: the main reason for trying to bring 802.15.4 to the ben is actually that it's a lot more open than wifi or bluetooth. otherwise, the others may be more useful from a user's perspective. Dec 27 13:42:14 wpwrak: i see. is the mac layer simple enough to be completely done with open code in the AP? Dec 27 13:42:18 s/in/on/ Dec 27 13:42:18 mickey| meant: wpwrak: i see. is the mac layer simple enough to be completely done with open code on the AP? Dec 27 13:42:21 mickeyl: most of the mac is usually implemented in the host, yes. depends a bit on the chip. some seem to have more stuff running on the RF chip, but then, you don't find much literature about them, so who cares anyway ;-) Dec 27 13:42:21 hehe Dec 27 13:42:21 right Dec 27 13:42:21 mickeyl: chips like the atmel AT86RF230 are nicely documented. Dec 27 13:42:21 mickeyl: the chip itself can do a bit of MAC, e.g., it can auto-ack packets, do retransmissions, and such. Dec 27 13:42:21 wpwrak: my largest issues with wlan are limited range unfortunately, I'm not sure I'm going to have that much use for something with even shorter range :/ Dec 27 13:42:21 mickeyl: alas, the linux zigbee stack (zigbee is one possible layer on top of 802.15.4) doesn't make use of those advanced features yet. Dec 27 13:42:21 lindi-: yes, range is an issue. you can only expect about 5-10 m. so it's basically "in the same room" communication Dec 27 13:42:23 lindi-: you could add amplifiers to work with power levels similar to what wifi uses, but then you'd sacrifice much of the simplicity Dec 27 13:42:23 wpwrak: which RF range are we talking about? the biggest issue I have with BT is BT/WiFi (non-)coexistance Dec 27 13:42:23 even major commercial players don't get this right Dec 27 13:42:23 (read: Apple, Inc.) Dec 27 13:42:27 mickeyl: 802.15.4 is also in the 2.4-2.5 GHz band. should be able to coexist with wlan to some extent: you can pick channels in which wlan normally isn't (if people follow the frequency plan of they region), and the coding also offers some protection against same-channel interferences. Dec 27 13:42:27 hmm, i see Dec 27 13:42:29 (simplicity) it's basically a single-chip solution: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/wpan/atusd/atusd-20100908-inserted.jpg Dec 27 13:44:48 yo GNUtoo|htcdream| Dec 27 13:44:53 hi Dec 27 13:45:24 (I'm eating ) Dec 27 13:46:42 ~bon appetit Dec 27 13:46:42 [bon appetit] smacznego. Guten Appetit. Eet Smakelijk. God Appetitt. Buon Appetito. Buen apetito Bom Apetite. buen apetito Smaklig måltid!. Hyvää ruokahalua. Bo Proveito Mahlzeit! Dec 27 13:47:00 thanks Dec 27 15:50:52 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r759585d93782 10/tools/mterm2/src/reader.vala: mterm2: fix damage introduced by last commit Dec 27 15:58:34 ~seen morphis Dec 27 15:58:43 morphis <~morphis@p5489E75B.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 4d 17h 41m 13s ago, saying: 'gn8'. Dec 27 16:16:50 what would you expect a program to do when you delete the correspomding .mo file? Dec 27 16:19:03 revert to the strings in the ELF binary? Dec 27 16:19:23 :nod: Dec 27 16:21:10 Nokia invented some new nice things: "conn_va_phone_network_mode_2g", "GSM" is their "default" .mo. Delete that and your button has "conn_v" Dec 27 16:22:13 but that's not all, they are better than that: they have things like "foo_bar_tana_fi_boo" , "Nokia sucks %s %s" :-P Dec 27 16:22:50 hahaha Dec 27 16:22:51 now when you delete the .mo, the %s parameters for the program's printf or whatever are not matching Dec 27 16:23:03 *BOOM* Dec 27 16:24:27 that's *needed* as otherwise their UI designers wouldn't know how to file bugs against strings that have a missing translation :-P Dec 27 16:25:01 OMG Dec 27 16:28:13 (sorry for getting OT with maemo here, just couldn't help I had to share that) Dec 27 16:50:44 hi guys Dec 27 17:04:58 DocScrutinizer: heh, nice architecture ;) Dec 27 17:05:34 yeah indeed Dec 27 17:05:42 and such a brilliant rationale Dec 27 17:06:44 i think their kernel engineers are somewhat better than their middleware engineers Dec 27 17:06:57 marginally Dec 27 17:07:09 man i'd wish we had the modem running already... Dec 27 17:07:16 ~lart lack of working forwarding Dec 27 17:07:17 * apt takes out a cattle prod and gives lack of working forwarding a good jolt Dec 27 17:08:31 I wish I had a position @ Nokia where I could change things with my rant. But then, on a second thought... never mind Dec 27 17:08:58 probably starting on happily developing ABS & ESP in january Dec 27 17:09:42 byebye mobile communication :'( Dec 27 17:10:40 oh cool Dec 27 17:10:43 (in a way) Dec 27 17:11:48 yeah! controlling your cars is way better than controlling your phones :-D Dec 27 17:11:53 hehe Dec 27 17:12:01 perhaps qi or goldelico get big enough to hire you at one point of time... Dec 27 17:12:29 I don't see that happen. They didn't for the last 3 years Dec 27 17:12:57 can't say anything about qi, but goldelico just started to get into the hardware business Dec 27 17:13:31 I know. I don't have hopes about commercial success, though it's a nice project Dec 27 17:14:08 yeah Dec 27 17:14:27 then again, commercial success not necessarily requires mass market Dec 27 17:14:53 obviously he can target more niche markets with his modular approach Dec 27 17:14:55 once the product has jumped the barrier to commerce, they don't need a EE like me anymore Dec 27 17:15:10 until then, they can't afford to hire me Dec 27 17:15:18 yep Dec 27 17:15:24 at least for the first project Dec 27 17:15:42 situation may change when the first one has reached a good ROI Dec 27 17:19:04 well, I vaguely recall some gizmo4you phone of ~12 months ago where I thought the same. Turned out it's been like 1h/month work + 4h/month unpaid paperwork and keeping up to date. I wonder what became of them Dec 27 17:20:25 that sucks big time Dec 27 17:20:33 a lot of small wannabees in this market Dec 27 17:20:35 thought as much Dec 27 17:20:51 goldelico at least does open its mouth only _after_ they got something working Dec 27 17:20:53 :) Dec 27 17:21:01 yeah Dec 27 17:21:27 bbiab, small walk in the snow Dec 27 17:21:46 reminds me to answer Nikolaus' email Dec 27 17:22:31 he's interested in my pile of GTAxx junk Dec 27 17:24:24 DocScrutinizer: dont forget me :) Dec 27 17:25:06 spare cases? how much per unit? Dec 27 17:25:19 guess I got 10 or 20 Dec 27 17:25:59 for the complete devices, I think I'll go ebay with them Dec 27 17:26:04 DocScrutinizer: ah, im mostly interested in complete units Dec 27 17:27:25 as 80..100 for a used device seems realistic. Those are rarely ever used Dec 27 17:27:35 (some of them) Dec 27 17:30:19 and some are even US 3band, have to check which ones Dec 27 17:52:46 Can anyone tell me what i am doing wrong? Dec 27 17:52:46 ubiformat /dev/mtd6 -s 2048 -O 2048 Dec 27 17:52:46 ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -m 6 --vid-hdr-offset 2048 Dec 27 17:52:46 ubimkvol /dev/ubi0 -m -N 'rootfs' -a 2048 Dec 27 17:52:46 mkfs.ubifs -x lzo /dev/ubi0_0 Dec 27 17:54:20 all ok, but now: Dec 27 17:54:23 mount /dev/ubi0_0 /mnt/flash/ -t ubifs -o no_chk_data_crc Dec 27 17:55:07 mount: Structure needs cleaning Dec 27 17:55:07 wtf?! Dec 27 17:55:58 kernel says: [31942.920000] UBIFS error (pid 541): ubifs_check_node: bad CRC: calculated 0x6d79bb4c, read 0xc9cf34ca Dec 27 17:55:59 and [31942.930000] UBIFS error (pid 541): ubifs_check_node: bad node at LEB 0:0 Dec 27 17:56:00 [31942.940000] UBIFS error (pid 541): ubifs_read_node: expected node type 6 Dec 27 17:59:56 gena2x: you are breaking the FHS :) Dec 27 18:00:09 (sorry, but you asked what you are doing wrong...) Dec 27 18:00:50 hehe Dec 27 18:10:14 lindi-: but i am not breaking even FHS :( 'This directory is provided so that the system administrator may temporarily mount a filesystem as needed. The content of this directory is a local issue and should not affect the manner in which any program is run.' Dec 27 18:10:14 perfectly ok :) **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 27 18:49:46 2010 Dec 27 19:07:58 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r1894798fb309 10/libfsosystem/ (15 files in 2 dirs): Dec 27 19:07:58 freesmartphone.org: libfsosystem: new library; will contain lowlevel system related Dec 27 19:07:58 freesmartphone.org: functions, such as mounting a filesystem, loading a kernel module, Dec 27 19:07:58 freesmartphone.org: etc. Dec 27 22:11:53 PREMIRRORS = "(cvs|http|ftp)://.*/.*/.*/ http://sources.openembedded.org/ \ Dec 27 22:11:56 \n (cvs|http|ftp)://.*/.*/ http://sources.openembedded.org/ \ Dec 27 22:11:59 \n (cvs|http|ftp)://.*/ http://sources.openembedded.org/" Dec 27 22:12:04 What a strange way to specify mirrors... Dec 27 22:54:49 hi GNUtoo|laptop could you help me with a few questions about geting linux on the g1 ? Dec 27 22:54:55 htc dream Dec 27 23:06:40 scatterp, hi Dec 27 23:06:47 scatterp, sorry I was away Dec 27 23:21:29 hi GNUtoo Dec 27 23:21:34 hi Dec 27 23:21:45 i just got a htc dream from my brother Dec 27 23:21:50 ok Dec 27 23:21:54 so i am trying to set up this shr linux Dec 27 23:21:56 and you want to try it out Dec 27 23:21:59 ? Dec 27 23:22:00 yeah Dec 27 23:22:07 you can try without installing anything Dec 27 23:22:09 i am just a little worried about bricking it Dec 27 23:22:21 oh ok Dec 27 23:22:23 the phone is rooted? Dec 27 23:22:30 if : Dec 27 23:22:33 it has cynanogen or something Dec 27 23:22:36 *the phone is rooted Dec 27 23:22:39 how do i tell if its rooted Dec 27 23:22:49 if it runs cyanogen it is rooted Dec 27 23:22:53 oh ok Dec 27 23:22:59 which cyanogen version? Dec 27 23:23:10 is there a button for that? Dec 27 23:23:18 I'll look Dec 27 23:23:39 I've to boot under replicant for seeing Dec 27 23:23:46 s/seeing/looking Dec 27 23:23:49 2.2 i htink Dec 27 23:24:09 oh theres a kernel version Dec 27 23:24:12 a mod version Dec 27 23:24:17 an android version Dec 27 23:24:23 baseband version Dec 27 23:24:23 if it's android 2.2 Dec 27 23:24:29 it should be cyanogen6 Dec 27 23:24:34 ok Dec 27 23:24:39 so all what you need are: Dec 27 23:24:41 *fastboot Dec 27 23:24:47 *a micorsd Dec 27 23:24:48 yeah it says cyanogenmod=6 for mod version Dec 27 23:24:49 *the phone Dec 27 23:24:55 *an usb cable Dec 27 23:25:13 ok phones connected to my laptop runing windows 7 Dec 27 23:25:18 i do have a ubuntu vm Dec 27 23:25:28 if you have cyanogen6 you have dangerSPL which means that you should be able to boot easily Dec 27 23:25:34 without any flashing Dec 27 23:25:47 cool what about fastboot Dec 27 23:25:49 does the ubuntu vm allow usb Dec 27 23:25:52 do i have that already ? Dec 27 23:25:57 not sure Dec 27 23:26:06 if you don't compile it under ubuntu Dec 27 23:26:10 anyway Dec 27 23:26:11 guess so its virtual box probebly a little awkward to get runing Dec 27 23:26:22 basically here's how to do it: Dec 27 23:26:36 *download the tarball Dec 27 23:26:39 ehlo Dec 27 23:26:42 *download the .fastboot kernel Dec 27 23:26:45 hi b0ef Dec 27 23:26:47 anybody every set up gprs between two freerunners? Dec 27 23:26:52 s/every/ever/ Dec 27 23:26:53 b0ef meant: anybody ever set up gprs between two freerunners? Dec 27 23:27:06 extract the tarball on microsd, but with the correct permissions(I usually do it from commandline) Dec 27 23:27:24 eject the microsd(clean eject) Dec 27 23:27:30 put it in the phone Dec 27 23:27:34 poweroff the phone Dec 27 23:27:36 i dont have a card reader only the phone btw Dec 27 23:27:42 ah Dec 27 23:27:54 that is kind of problematic Dec 27 23:27:58 but I can try that way Dec 27 23:28:02 to see if it work Dec 27 23:28:17 basically you have to repartition the card as ext3 Dec 27 23:28:23 I forgott to mention that sorry Dec 27 23:28:29 ok Dec 27 23:28:35 hello! Dec 27 23:28:38 else.... Dec 27 23:28:39 hmmm Dec 27 23:28:43 does someone of FSO is here ? Dec 27 23:28:48 there is another way Dec 27 23:28:51 so download everything to some place and then format the card Dec 27 23:28:51 it should work if it exposes everything not just the one partition Dec 27 23:28:57 so step 1 really is format the card Dec 27 23:28:57 but it has only be tested once Dec 27 23:29:17 and no official images exists Dec 27 23:29:28 basically it was made by dcordes for windows users Dec 27 23:30:07 I'll try to format a card trough the phone reader Dec 27 23:30:14 it should be possible and easy with cyanogen Dec 27 23:30:21 or with an amon ra recovery Dec 27 23:30:34 the phones expose the full sd card don't they? Dec 27 23:30:58 i think so Dec 27 23:31:01 not sure Dec 27 23:31:58 i tried to format with the phone setting menu but i cant get it to mount now Dec 27 23:32:00 :/ Dec 27 23:32:24 ah? Dec 27 23:32:33 what filesystem did you format it in? Dec 27 23:33:00 it didnt seem to work to be honest Dec 27 23:33:08 it didnt give an option either Dec 27 23:33:27 or perhaps its runing as a background task Dec 27 23:33:35 not sure where task manager is on this thing Dec 27 23:34:08 hmmm no didn't work Dec 27 23:34:23 the other option is to use something made for windows Dec 27 23:34:44 there is a third option Dec 27 23:34:50 are you fluent with command line? Dec 27 23:35:10 yeah pretty much Dec 27 23:35:12 ah nice Dec 27 23:35:16 ./adb shell Dec 27 23:35:22 not a grand master Dec 27 23:35:26 and format the microsd card from commandline from there Dec 27 23:35:31 such as start to umount it Dec 27 23:35:39 then fdisk it Dec 27 23:35:43 lets see one sec Dec 27 23:35:43 then mkfs.ext3 it Dec 27 23:36:00 and then I'm not sure Dec 27 23:36:14 because you will have to extract a tarball on it Dec 27 23:36:18 hmmm Dec 27 23:36:25 maybe export it manually Dec 27 23:36:54 oh its busybox Dec 27 23:37:45 I've got an idea Dec 27 23:37:56 ok Dec 27 23:38:09 just adb push the tarball on the filesystem when it'll be created Dec 27 23:38:15 if the microsd is big enough Dec 27 23:38:19 there would be no issues at all Dec 27 23:38:22 its 8gb Dec 27 23:38:27 ok nice Dec 27 23:38:31 not sure what adb is Dec 27 23:38:33 I often uses some 2GB Dec 27 23:38:42 adb is what gives you a shell inside the phone Dec 27 23:38:44 i found an application that opened me a terminal Dec 27 23:38:48 ok Dec 27 23:38:49 and ./adb shell Dec 27 23:38:51 didnt work Dec 27 23:38:53 fdisk did Dec 27 23:38:57 seems like busybox Dec 27 23:39:03 ./adb shell is like ssh root@your_phone_ip Dec 27 23:39:09 it's android specific Dec 27 23:39:23 it's an uttility that get you a shell from your computer Dec 27 23:39:26 on your phone Dec 27 23:39:35 whoami said im err app_33 Dec 27 23:39:38 so like if you ssh-ed into your phone from your laptop Dec 27 23:39:40 ok Dec 27 23:39:56 oh ok but is ssh open ? Dec 27 23:40:04 ? Dec 27 23:40:07 no ssh Dec 27 23:40:09 what do you mean by open Dec 27 23:40:14 you have to install it Dec 27 23:40:25 and it's dropbear not openssh Dec 27 23:40:33 ahh ok Dec 27 23:40:38 and the port is not open by default as ssh is not launched by default Dec 27 23:40:45 let me find the howto Dec 27 23:40:50 let me close this terminal thing then Dec 27 23:41:06 http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Howto:_Connect_to_Device_with_SSH Dec 27 23:41:18 that gives you ssh to your phone Dec 27 23:41:29 and trough ssh you should be able to have scp/sftp too Dec 27 23:41:32 not sure tough Dec 27 23:41:36 else use adb Dec 27 23:42:01 also note that GNU/Linux on the htcdream has not been finished yet Dec 27 23:42:11 some stuff needs work Dec 27 23:42:17 some other stuff works fine Dec 27 23:42:29 and some stuff needs to manually type some commands Dec 27 23:42:35 I should fix that Dec 27 23:42:55 ok let me try to get connected Dec 27 23:43:00 brb Dec 27 23:43:37 ok Dec 27 23:44:30 brb too Dec 27 23:44:32 oh i got root :) Dec 27 23:44:33 brb Dec 27 23:46:03 back Dec 27 23:50:13 ok well i got root Dec 27 23:50:26 but it seems i need to write some keys to the sdcard Dec 27 23:50:30 to get the ssh working Dec 27 23:50:42 better to just use it locally on the phone i guess Dec 27 23:50:55 no need Dec 27 23:51:06 the key can be pushed directly to the phone Dec 27 23:51:10 ./adb remount Dec 27 23:51:13 ok Dec 27 23:51:16 ./adb push ... Dec 27 23:51:32 but local works too Dec 27 23:51:50 says adb not found Dec 27 23:52:20 wait let me check something give me a sec Dec 27 23:52:25 ok Dec 27 23:52:42 you can get adb and fastboot from: Dec 27 23:53:04 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/replicant/images/replicant_2.2/preview/0001/tools/ Dec 27 23:53:39 ok Dec 27 23:54:01 i got wget :) Dec 27 23:56:33 ok Dec 27 23:56:42 just typeing the url in its long Dec 27 23:57:37 is alt e _ ? Dec 27 23:58:18 for keyboard it depend on your layout Dec 27 23:58:24 for instnce us,it,de etc... Dec 27 23:58:28 ok Dec 27 23:58:37 look it in firefox Dec 27 23:58:43 theses tools are for your computer Dec 27 23:58:46 not for your phone Dec 27 23:58:56 they are for ubuntu tough Dec 27 23:58:59 not for windows Dec 27 23:59:06 I forgott to add some windows tools Dec 27 23:59:34 oh Dec 27 23:59:42 adb is for my computer ? Dec 27 23:59:47 i was trying to put it on the phone Dec 28 00:00:12 ah ok...they are for interacting with the phone Dec 28 00:00:25 oh i thought i just use putty to ssh to the phone Dec 28 00:00:31 after making dropbear work Dec 28 00:00:36 ok Dec 28 00:00:46 but be sure you can scp/sftp Dec 28 00:00:49 only dropbear didnt start not sure why Dec 28 00:01:07 i have windows scp client Dec 28 00:01:18 just dont have scp server on the phone yet i think Dec 28 00:01:30 ok Dec 28 00:01:42 i think scp should work Dec 28 00:01:47 but not sftp Dec 28 00:01:47 ok Dec 28 00:01:56 how do we open the port for that on the phone Dec 28 00:02:11 no need Dec 28 00:02:23 ports are opened by default I think Dec 28 00:02:36 oh cool lets test need my ip one sec Dec 28 00:03:04 but services listenning to the port isn't...that's why there is a howto for ssh Dec 28 00:03:19 ifconfig tiwlan0 Dec 28 00:03:23 on the phone Dec 28 00:03:44 ok 141 Dec 28 00:03:45 got it Dec 28 00:03:56 ok nice Dec 28 00:04:26 hrm scp it didnt connect Dec 28 00:04:31 ah Dec 28 00:04:46 what is your windows scp program? Dec 28 00:04:48 i have client i use for television (mythtv) Dec 28 00:04:50 winscp Dec 28 00:05:06 does it support putty's keys? Dec 28 00:05:20 basically android is non-standard Dec 28 00:05:23 i would guess so Dec 28 00:05:28 i have putty also Dec 28 00:05:39 try putty Dec 28 00:05:56 hey.... Dec 28 00:06:04 we don't need scp Dec 28 00:06:07 network connection refused Dec 28 00:06:11 i think the ports closed Dec 28 00:06:19 you have wget... Dec 28 00:06:24 yes Dec 28 00:06:33 and root Dec 28 00:06:57 just download thr tarball directly on the microsd when it'll be formated Dec 28 00:07:21 ok first i try to ssh to it again Dec 28 00:08:30 ok Dec 28 00:15:37 ok its being a little awkward but im closer to having ssh Dec 28 00:16:21 ok Dec 28 00:20:25 ok working Dec 28 00:20:30 except erm whats the password ? Dec 28 00:20:33 GNUtoo|htcdream|: btw., how's your exams going? do you know whether you'll be able to attend FOSDEM now or not yet? Dec 28 00:20:56 my exams are close to fossdem.... Dec 28 00:21:00 ok im in Dec 28 00:21:14 but i'll do the possible to go to fossdem Dec 28 00:21:23 ok,g reat Dec 28 00:21:33 i'll tell you when i will have booked Dec 28 00:21:50 okies Dec 28 00:21:57 GNUtoo|htcdream| do you run ubuntu on your laptop ? Dec 28 00:22:11 a derivate of it Dec 28 00:22:27 mickeyl,any news on modem? Dec 28 00:22:37 theres a windows/linux program called teamviewer i can use that to show you the terminal directly Dec 28 00:22:49 * GNUtoo|htcdream| needs some hope(for modem) Dec 28 00:23:04 i will wget the files Dec 28 00:23:11 not yet Dec 28 00:23:24 did you format the microsd? Dec 28 00:23:24 GNUtoo|htcdream|: no time to flash maemo kernel back yet, spent the whole day to get task-fso2-compliance to build again in OE and to iron out some more gdbus things. will take a look at the libisi state tomorrow Dec 28 00:23:39 ok Dec 28 00:23:54 pity mrmoku is not here these days Dec 28 00:24:01 i'll be terribly busy again next week Dec 28 00:24:54 * GNUtoo|htcdream| is using htcdream because of the keyboard...but as n900 port don't progress as fast as we want...i'm tempted to finish the port Dec 28 00:25:32 GNUtoo|htcdream| should i wget http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/replicant/images/replicant_2.2/preview/0001/tools/fastboot on to the phone ? Dec 28 00:25:40 we just need that damn forwarding to move quickly... Dec 28 00:25:50 ok Dec 28 00:26:22 scattert, as you get ssh...you do not need adb Dec 28 00:26:28 oh ok Dec 28 00:26:46 what shall i do now then ? Dec 28 00:26:46 but you will need fastboot later, on your windows computer Dec 28 00:27:00 save the mixrosd content Dec 28 00:27:05 umount it Dec 28 00:27:06 on windows or on ubuntu vm ? Dec 28 00:27:07 format it Dec 28 00:27:13 on the phone Dec 28 00:27:21 ok nothing to save Dec 28 00:27:21 trough ssh Dec 28 00:27:24 ok Dec 28 00:27:26 its not mounted Dec 28 00:27:30 well i dont think it is Dec 28 00:27:31 ok Dec 28 00:27:45 so next is fdisk i guess Dec 28 00:27:48 mount doesn't show /sdcard? Dec 28 00:28:06 nope Dec 28 00:28:11 with fdisk: Dec 28 00:28:28 *delete the existing partition Dec 28 00:28:34 create a new one Dec 28 00:28:42 ensure its type is linux Dec 28 00:28:43 http://pastebin.com/2Teimybv Dec 28 00:28:46 save Dec 28 00:28:58 and quit Dec 28 00:29:09 trying to think how to address it Dec 28 00:29:12 i.e Dec 28 00:29:19 fdisk sda1 Dec 28 00:29:24 would be a harddrive Dec 28 00:29:38 or /dev/sda1 Dec 28 00:29:58 no Dec 28 00:30:13 /dev/block/mmcblk0 Dec 28 00:33:36 ok i made a 2000M partition Dec 28 00:34:20 http://pastebin.com/jp16Pprg Dec 28 00:35:58 ok Dec 28 00:36:10 you could use the whole microsd Dec 28 00:36:21 that would make more space Dec 28 00:38:10 ok done Dec 28 00:38:34 ok Dec 28 00:38:43 format it to ext3 like this Dec 28 00:38:57 mkfs.ext3 /dev/mmcblk0p1 Dec 28 00:39:08 oops Dec 28 00:39:28 mkfs.ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 Dec 28 00:39:50 don't forget the p1 Dec 28 00:40:23 and then mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 Dec 28 00:40:40 mkfs.ext3: not found Dec 28 00:40:48 ouch..... Dec 28 00:41:00 are you there tomorrow? Dec 28 00:41:04 sure Dec 28 00:41:19 because i'll try to sleep Dec 28 00:41:32 ok thanks for all the help :) Dec 28 00:41:46 i could try to compile mkfs.ext3 statically tomorrow Dec 28 00:42:00 or this night if i fail to sleep Dec 28 00:42:05 ok Dec 28 00:42:52 mixkeyl, any news on forwarding? Dec 28 00:43:13 mixkeyl,do you need help on somethig? Dec 28 00:43:25 the phone went very slow now Dec 28 00:43:37 ??? Dec 28 00:43:41 i try reboot Dec 28 00:43:45 ahh Dec 28 00:43:54 you opened too many apps Dec 28 00:44:11 that's one of the cyanogen issue Dec 28 00:44:18 probebly Dec 28 00:44:28 if the app don't have a close button.... Dec 28 00:44:37 there is no way to close it Dec 28 00:44:56 which increase ram usage Dec 28 00:45:06 and slow down the phone... Dec 28 00:45:08 i just take out the battery Dec 28 00:45:17 ok Dec 28 00:45:56 btw... Dec 28 00:46:11 look if your recovery image has mkfs.ext3 Dec 28 00:46:26 if it does format from there Dec 28 00:46:28 not sure how Dec 28 00:46:43 press home button while booting Dec 28 00:46:59 press it just once ? Dec 28 00:47:34 no Dec 28 00:47:51 keep pressing it once but a very long time Dec 28 00:48:02 until you get something... Dec 28 00:48:21 oh ok i need to reboot how do i reboot ? Dec 28 00:49:00 press power button for a long time Dec 28 00:49:07 and select reboot Dec 28 00:49:25 or type reboot trough ssh Dec 28 00:49:43 reboot or recovery? Dec 28 00:50:01 or bootloader Dec 28 00:50:08 it gives some options Dec 28 00:50:09 ah Dec 28 00:50:15 recovery Dec 28 00:50:17 but Dec 28 00:50:25 do not press home after Dec 28 00:50:31 ok Dec 28 00:50:35 it's not needed Dec 28 00:53:03 i can't find the flasher util. all nokia sites seem to have problems today. iirc the flasher util has a boot from memory mode (with -b) which I'd like to try Dec 28 00:53:44 ok Dec 28 00:53:55 ok i have a menu Dec 28 00:54:09 android system recovery menu Dec 28 00:54:11 mickeyl,too bad 0xFFFF does'h have it Dec 28 00:54:30 mixkeyl, i another hand there is uboot.... Dec 28 00:54:47 it says i can partition sdcard Dec 28 00:54:59 ok Dec 28 00:55:16 does it has ext3 as option? Dec 28 00:55:33 i dont see that but who knows Dec 28 00:55:47 wipe could be format could be ext 3 Dec 28 00:55:56 no Dec 28 00:55:57 or could be wipe firmware Dec 28 00:56:02 it dont say much :/ Dec 28 00:56:07 wipe firmware Dec 28 00:56:20 get a commandline Dec 28 00:56:28 and mkfs.ext3 Dec 28 00:57:04 mickeyl, i should have flasher somewhere... Dec 28 00:57:19 not found Dec 28 00:57:40 mickeyl,will we have telephony+3g for the summer? Dec 28 00:57:56 scatterp,then come back tomorrow Dec 28 00:58:00 ok Dec 28 00:58:03 :) Dec 28 00:58:08 hopefully i should be there sooner Dec 28 00:58:11 do i type reboot here ? Dec 28 00:58:23 yes Dec 28 00:58:37 thanks for all :) Dec 28 00:58:38 sleep good Dec 28 00:58:55 is that 3g and telephony on the dream wth linux ? Dec 28 00:59:15 yes it works Dec 28 00:59:30 i was discussing about n900 Dec 28 00:59:42 oh ok Dec 28 00:59:46 where it's not implemented yet Dec 28 01:00:02 on htcdream 2 things works bad Dec 28 01:00:08 oh ? Dec 28 01:00:14 wifi consume too muxh battery Dec 28 01:00:24 i got extended battery :) Dec 28 01:00:37 and sound works fine with mplayer but not every program Dec 28 01:00:38 ok Dec 28 01:01:00 sound issue seems a little odd Dec 28 01:01:33 for instance linphone wich is a sip(something like skype but standard and free) is horrible Dec 28 01:01:44 the rest is very easily fixable Dec 28 01:02:13 linphone is horrible ? Dec 28 01:02:14 or can be worked arround by the user if the dev didn't have the time to fix Dec 28 01:02:28 yes...sound isn't great Dec 28 01:02:32 oh Dec 28 01:02:39 i do make a lot of sip calls Dec 28 01:02:47 oh Dec 28 01:02:47 well really i only make sip calls Dec 28 01:03:17 what other sip program do we have? Dec 28 01:03:26 but linphone is not the only sip program for linux Dec 28 01:03:34 right Dec 28 01:03:43 well theres thousands really Dec 28 01:03:43 ekiga, empathy Dec 28 01:03:49 twinkle Dec 28 01:03:51 pidgen is good i heard Dec 28 01:03:55 but i didn't bother looking for others Dec 28 01:04:02 pidgin do sip ? Dec 28 01:04:13 misc my brother loudly tells me so daily Dec 28 01:04:27 something about xmpp and the future of the planet Dec 28 01:04:40 jingle yes Dec 28 01:04:45 yeah Dec 28 01:04:49 pidgin does google talk and jingle Dec 28 01:05:06 i should try it Dec 28 01:05:17 since i run windows (currently) i use skype and i have a bridge Dec 28 01:05:22 ok Dec 28 01:05:30 skype have a nice audio codec Dec 28 01:05:49 did you try sipdroid under cyanogen? Dec 28 01:05:51 but you cant beat googles free calls to the usa thats a really nice deal Dec 28 01:05:59 nope Dec 28 01:06:02 ok Dec 28 01:06:05 my brother did it didnt work Dec 28 01:06:19 something about needing a vpn tunnel Dec 28 01:06:20 for me it works.... Dec 28 01:06:24 ah ok Dec 28 01:06:38 i think cyanogen has openvpn Dec 28 01:06:40 his phone provider blocks sip Dec 28 01:06:43 we have it too Dec 28 01:06:44 ok Dec 28 01:07:00 but right now i have no sim card Dec 28 01:07:08 ok Dec 28 01:07:09 i need to unlock the phone to make it accept my sim Dec 28 01:07:13 so wifi Dec 28 01:07:18 ? Dec 28 01:07:20 yeah Dec 28 01:07:30 it's simlocked? Dec 28 01:07:35 unfortunatly :( Dec 28 01:07:56 sim locked to tmobile Dec 28 01:07:56 ok,so you meant unlock the phone modem... Dec 28 01:08:02 ok Dec 28 01:08:16 yeah because we have a new company here "3" its basicly skype Dec 28 01:08:25 and they give you free skype for ever Dec 28 01:08:36 so no data charges on skype traffic Dec 28 01:08:37 you're in italy? Dec 28 01:08:45 no in england Dec 28 01:08:55 i want to go to italy one day Dec 28 01:09:00 ah ok, we have 3 in italy too Dec 28 01:09:06 oh with free skype ? Dec 28 01:09:15 i don't know Dec 28 01:09:30 here 3 gives free skype calls Dec 28 01:09:36 ok Dec 28 01:09:43 and you can use for example ringtoskype.com Dec 28 01:09:53 and take a skype number in italy Dec 28 01:10:00 in italy 3 is some kind of trap Dec 28 01:10:05 so your phone has the number of a house phone Dec 28 01:10:13 ok Dec 28 01:10:59 for instance you have roaming cost while you're in italy... Dec 28 01:11:33 simply because you used another operator antenna or network Dec 28 01:11:42 which can be done automatically Dec 28 01:11:44 that sucks Dec 28 01:11:48 indeed Dec 28 01:12:10 do they have pre pay ? Dec 28 01:12:21 also their phones are simlocked Dec 28 01:12:31 i don't know Dec 28 01:12:46 i heard in itally they have tmobile with a captive portal system Dec 28 01:12:51 and everyone just bypass it Dec 28 01:12:55 ah? Dec 28 01:13:22 i only ever used tim and wind Dec 28 01:13:28 oh Dec 28 01:13:37 never heared of tmobile in italy Dec 28 01:13:51 maybe they are rebranded in another name Dec 28 01:14:00 could be Dec 28 01:14:01 there is also vodaphone Dec 28 01:14:11 which is in italy Dec 28 01:14:17 yes we have that here Dec 28 01:14:21 ok Dec 28 01:14:40 lets get some sleep and continue tommorow anyway Dec 28 01:14:46 yes Dec 28 01:15:12 i'm very interested in yout vpn+sip setup Dec 28 01:15:29 if i could have the same sort of stuff for home use... Dec 28 01:15:56 oh yeah i am sure it can be set up Dec 28 01:16:09 can you do a dns look up Dec 28 01:16:12 that's one of the reason why i's like to fix audio+wifi Dec 28 01:16:22 for free in itally ? Dec 28 01:16:37 i do not have 3g in italy Dec 28 01:16:44 oh gprs? Dec 28 01:16:50 wifi Dec 28 01:17:07 ok so they have like hotspots therE? Dec 28 01:17:16 i'm rather looking on how to get telephony between 2 homes Dec 28 01:17:20 no Dec 28 01:17:32 oh i see house to house thats easy Dec 28 01:17:46 assumeing house A is you Dec 28 01:17:46 it must be conveinient Dec 28 01:17:49 yes Dec 28 01:17:52 what telephone network is house B ? Dec 28 01:18:03 internet in both houses Dec 28 01:18:23 in my house, powerfull router Dec 28 01:18:25 oh just strait sip will do it pretty easy then Dec 28 01:18:26 with vpn Dec 28 01:18:31 is it ddwrt ? Dec 28 01:18:32 and asterisk Dec 28 01:18:34 no Dec 28 01:18:49 an ubuntu derived distro on a sempron 2500+ Dec 28 01:18:49 having an asterisk while fun is probebly over kill Dec 28 01:19:29 the problem is rather to find a sip app that works on gnu/linux Dec 28 01:19:45 and to write the friendly gui for it Dec 28 01:19:46 oh theres lots Dec 28 01:19:55 ill help you set it up tommorow Dec 28 01:20:00 or tonight if you like Dec 28 01:20:00 ok Dec 28 01:20:04 childs play to do Dec 28 01:20:05 tommorow Dec 28 01:20:08 ok Dec 28 01:20:09 not sure Dec 28 01:20:23 sp you know cross-compiling? Dec 28 01:20:31 sound driver issues Dec 28 01:20:36 etc... Dec 28 01:21:03 you want to put it on your htc phone right Dec 28 01:21:06 wif can work ok,i think my battery can last enough with it Dec 28 01:21:15 yes Dec 28 01:21:25 yeah it should be fine im sure Dec 28 01:21:32 that's the idea Dec 28 01:21:43 i've 2 htcdreams Dec 28 01:21:59 so... that's ideal on that part Dec 28 01:22:04 same phone Dec 28 01:22:12 easy debugging... Dec 28 01:23:18 yeah Dec 28 01:23:24 should be easily done Dec 28 01:23:49 for audio there are 2 ways Dec 28 01:23:55 try other sip apps Dec 28 01:24:19 if there is one which can use sdl it wouls be a walk in the park Dec 28 01:24:32 sdl? Dec 28 01:24:51 yes i use that for buffering between the app and alsa Dec 28 01:25:04 ok Dec 28 01:25:14 it makes it buffer-underrun free Dec 28 01:25:36 so -ao sdl for mplayer Dec 28 01:26:00 or.... Dec 28 01:26:13 arecord failled for some low quality Dec 28 01:26:22 but succeded for high quality Dec 28 01:26:33 lile 44100Hz stereo Dec 28 01:26:49 if i remember Dec 28 01:27:01 so what does linphone do wrong ? Dec 28 01:27:06 in the last resort....patching alsa and using pulse Dec 28 01:27:19 using patches from palm pixie Dec 28 01:27:41 the problem is in the alsa driver Dec 28 01:27:53 some apps work well tough Dec 28 01:27:59 like aplay Dec 28 01:28:36 hmm Dec 28 01:28:42 buffer size related Dec 28 01:28:50 i think Dec 28 01:28:56 when you say linphone sounds bad in what way ? Dec 28 01:29:00 is it like jerky ? Dec 28 01:29:12 i don't remember Dec 28 01:29:24 but i think calling 500 is horrible Dec 28 01:29:41 i'll retry tommorow Dec 28 01:30:04 yeah some sip providers are not so good Dec 28 01:30:20 not provider related Dec 28 01:30:36 as i'm the provider Dec 28 01:31:13 i think you are assuming that android use a non-buggy and standard kernel Dec 28 01:31:20 which is false Dec 28 01:31:40 yeah it does sound pretty good ish Dec 28 01:31:52 i mean last time i had linux on an htc that was the universal Dec 28 01:31:58 and that was pretty crappy Dec 28 01:32:08 yes but if you look at the lower levels.... Dec 28 01:32:34 i mean the gui seem wow Dec 28 01:32:40 but undernith Dec 28 01:32:54 there is not even alsa on the htcdream under android Dec 28 01:33:18 yeah well first steps is to play sound and record it stable Dec 28 01:33:21 of course Dec 28 01:33:21 they use a non-standard direct dsp system Dec 28 01:33:26 before you move to telephony Dec 28 01:33:44 telephony works cristal clear on gnu/linux Dec 28 01:34:06 it's handled by the baseband Dec 28 01:34:25 even the sound,yes Dec 28 01:34:42 basically the sound card is attached to the baseband Dec 28 01:34:59 to make a phonecall...no alsa needed Dec 28 01:35:17 how about to record Dec 28 01:35:25 you can Dec 28 01:35:30 record sound Dec 28 01:35:42 just talk to the baseband... Dec 28 01:35:51 using rpc Dec 28 01:36:00 basically Dec 28 01:36:11 android uses a qdsp5 driver Dec 28 01:36:24 that talks to the baseband Dec 28 01:36:25 hrm i dunno you poked around inside this thing a lot more than me but i think its close to being workable for si Dec 28 01:36:27 sip Dec 28 01:36:34 to send and receive sound Dec 28 01:36:40 so record and play Dec 28 01:36:47 ok so single driver Dec 28 01:36:49 alsa driver is on top of that Dec 28 01:37:07 but the alsa driver is bugged basiclly Dec 28 01:37:10 it uses some same routines Dec 28 01:37:12 yes Dec 28 01:37:30 we found a workarround to make it work well with mplayer Dec 28 01:37:47 the workarround is to use sdl Dec 28 01:37:55 i guess its a thing of bug hunting the bug and patching it Dec 28 01:38:15 i think it's like wifi Dec 28 01:38:29 we know why it's like this Dec 28 01:38:41 but i suck at kernel haxcking Dec 28 01:38:54 so i tried...and failled to fix Dec 28 01:39:09 hi GNUtoo|htcdream| Dec 28 01:39:14 hi Dec 28 01:39:46 Lopi, any news? is website back? Dec 28 01:40:55 GNUtoo|htcdream|: I might register my own domain and find someone to host it for free. I don't really have the money to pay for it, but I'm tired of website going down consistently. Dec 28 01:41:07 ok Dec 28 01:41:10 GNUtoo|htcdream|: I have a few things on my todo list in terms of developing. Dec 28 01:41:16 ok Dec 28 01:41:30 maybe piggy-back on us? Dec 28 01:41:42 GNUtoo|htcdream| what about pulse audio ? Dec 28 01:41:42 such as add pages to shr wiki Dec 28 01:41:48 to fso wiki Dec 28 01:41:52 etc... Dec 28 01:42:08 basiy pulseaudio can work Dec 28 01:42:18 it works on the palm pixie Dec 28 01:42:31 which has the same sound cards than us Dec 28 01:42:46 ok that makes it pretty easy Dec 28 01:42:46 yeah, I suppose I could just edit my wiki page on iDroid, SHR, FSO, etc. to keep on updating >< Dec 28 01:43:10 does the palm pixie use alsa at all ? Dec 28 01:43:24 but it eould require to recompile some apps or to use the alsa wrapper Dec 28 01:43:28 yes Dec 28 01:43:43 yes it does use alsa Dec 28 01:43:47 yes for wik Dec 28 01:43:48 btw, what's the "official" method of implementing sound in OpenMoko/SHR? Dec 28 01:43:48 does it work well ? Dec 28 01:44:03 Lopi,alsa+alsa states Dec 28 01:44:13 not asound.state though? Dec 28 01:44:25 scatterp, i guess so as they shipped the product with that code Dec 28 01:44:44 Lopi i think fso has special states Dec 28 01:44:56 and fso handle alsas routing Dec 28 01:45:02 for calls etc... Dec 28 01:45:33 so I probably want to port my asound.state to the way fso does it? Dec 28 01:45:40 or headphones plug Dec 28 01:45:47 sounds promising Dec 28 01:46:07 otherwise I'll have problems with getting sound working in conjunction with the baseband Dec 28 01:46:11 scatterp,htcdream lacks only 3 core stuff Dec 28 01:46:11 Lopi, are you in berlin? Dec 28 01:46:33 playya: nope, I'm probably one of the few americans around these parts ;p Dec 28 01:46:42 scatterp: wifi power saving mode,good alsa driver, and integration Dec 28 01:47:16 integration is very easy Dec 28 01:47:20 here're some americans, too Dec 28 01:47:29 it's stuff like Dec 28 01:47:39 while im not fully clear on how .. i think the palm pixi alsa driver could have some patch that were missing Dec 28 01:47:41 font size in gtkrc Dec 28 01:47:51 automatic wifi handling Dec 28 01:47:53 etc... Dec 28 01:48:32 wifi power saving mode i guess that would be something to ask the author of the drivers who probebly knows more about the wifi stuff Dec 28 01:49:19 no Dec 28 01:49:25 i idd that Dec 28 01:49:32 he promissed me to look Dec 28 01:49:36 no luck ? Dec 28 01:49:39 he didn't Dec 28 01:49:45 i know why Dec 28 01:49:48 playya: are you familiar with fsogsmd? Dec 28 01:50:02 the fix is that one Dec 28 01:50:32 a little bit Dec 28 01:50:42 .irq = MSM_GPIO_INT(29) Dec 28 01:50:51 but it freeze the phone Dec 28 01:51:05 i should try with upstream Dec 28 01:51:09 naybe... Dec 28 01:51:27 GNUtoo|htcdream|: Are you sleeping soon? Dec 28 01:51:38 Lopi not sure Dec 28 01:51:51 maybe maybe not Dec 28 01:52:02 alright I'll see if you're awake when I get back Dec 28 01:52:06 if i feel asleep i will sleep Dec 28 01:52:13 ah Dec 28 01:52:15 if not I'll be awake tomorrow to talk to you ;p Dec 28 01:52:17 not sure Dec 28 01:52:23 ok Dec 28 01:52:31 well, I'll be awake when you are awake ;) Dec 28 01:52:34 one thing Dec 28 01:52:58 did you read the fsogdsmd blog introduction? Dec 28 01:53:16 yeah, I remember reading it when you linked me to the blog Dec 28 01:53:28 ok Dec 28 01:53:38 I have made some progress with the plugin, but it's taking awhile heh Dec 28 01:53:42 did you read some code? Dec 28 01:53:43 ok Dec 28 01:54:01 your plugin is easy Dec 28 01:54:08 you use AT commands Dec 28 01:54:23 so yo can piggy back on the at interpreter Dec 28 01:54:39 and override only what's needed Dec 28 01:54:45 the key people are Dec 28 01:54:47 from what I understand I just need to port the iPhone unlock methods from iDroid's ril source to the fsogsmd single_line plugin Dec 28 01:54:49 mickeyl Dec 28 01:54:54 morphis Dec 28 01:55:05 ok Dec 28 01:55:18 that's the first step Dec 28 01:55:35 is that unlock method needed each time? Dec 28 01:55:38 then initiate those methods first and it should just work Dec 28 01:55:43 you said when you do that it freeze and reboots how do you know it freezed ? Dec 28 01:56:19 GNUtoo|htcdream|: well, on the iOS side of things it is only needed once. However, I'm not sure if iDroid has to use it on every boot. Dec 28 01:56:29 ok Dec 28 01:56:36 I'll find out Dec 28 01:57:07 scatterp,no reaction(ssh,screen) Dec 28 01:57:17 i guess freezes and reboots basiclly means that it crashs and to see that would take some kind of debugger Dec 28 01:57:34 can't use a debugger Dec 28 01:57:39 i can try again Dec 28 01:57:55 to make the serial cable Dec 28 01:58:04 but last time i failed Dec 28 01:58:21 because i used some undocumented method Dec 28 01:58:28 with a headset Dec 28 01:58:54 GNUtoo|htcdream|: Yeah, those unlocks are done on every single boot. And more than once in the case of wildcard + SIM PIN Dec 28 01:59:28 Lopi did you read the ril or bootloader source code? Dec 28 01:59:33 i read both Dec 28 01:59:41 yeah Dec 28 01:59:46 and they have some customs commands Dec 28 01:59:52 not only unlock Dec 28 02:00:05 volume Dec 28 02:00:08 etc... Dec 28 02:00:14 routing too Dec 28 02:00:22 things that aren't standard in android ril source? Dec 28 02:00:38 AT+xdr Dec 28 02:00:49 was it that? Dec 28 02:01:21 i don't remember well but some stuff in non-standard Dec 28 02:01:49 AT+XDRV=0,1,%d,2 Dec 28 02:01:55 ok Dec 28 02:01:58 that Dec 28 02:02:01 you were pretty close from memory ;o Dec 28 02:02:11 lol Dec 28 02:02:46 get the standard Dec 28 02:02:51 that AT command is from void loudspeaker_vol(int vol) Dec 28 02:02:56 0707 or thr updated one Dec 28 02:02:59 yes Dec 28 02:03:23 look for Dec 28 02:03:25 what does that mean Dec 28 02:03:27 stanard 0707 Dec 28 02:03:33 hayes command set on wikipedia Dec 28 02:03:36 k Dec 28 02:03:51 there are references and links Dec 28 02:04:07 look in links if you find one to the standasrd Dec 28 02:06:50 Anyway, there a few other issues I want to fix before finishing the baseband. I'll fix those then try to do a release, i.e. sound working at boot instead of restoring asound.state. Dec 28 02:07:29 ok Dec 28 02:08:53 I keep pushing the release back, but now I realize I won't be able to offer more functionality if I get everything implemented before release ;p Dec 28 02:09:23 ok Dec 28 02:09:56 release early,release often Dec 28 02:15:27 i'll try to sleep Dec 28 02:15:39 if i fail i come back **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 28 02:59:56 2010