**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 29 02:59:57 2010 Dec 29 09:02:39 hello everyone Dec 29 09:04:21 I m trying to use alsa on SHR freerunner but , its giving error , ALSA lib pcm.c (snd_pcm_open_noupdate) unknown PCM hw:0,0 Dec 29 09:04:46 what does it mean ? my application still want to use pcm ? or there is any missing module ? Dec 29 09:21:08 IDENTIFY Dec 29 09:24:28 ALSA lib pcm.c (snd_pcm_open_noupdate) unknown PCM hw:0,0 Dec 29 09:24:33 hello everyone Dec 29 09:25:04 I m trying to use alsa , on SHR Dec 29 09:25:08 but Dec 29 09:25:32 it seems its sitll trying ot use pcm ? or there is any missing module ? Dec 29 09:25:57 its giving error on playback and record > ALSA lib pcm.c (snd_pcm_open_noupdate) unknown PCM hw:0,0 Dec 29 09:26:33 can anybody let me know where the problem is ? Dec 29 09:26:39 I'll be thankful Dec 29 09:30:36 EsEhAr: what program are you using? Dec 29 09:31:04 i have cross compiled minisip voip application Dec 29 09:31:40 on ubuntu-8 Dec 29 09:36:14 where the problem is ? is it in alsa sound driver ? Dec 29 09:36:34 I have libasound2 installed in SHR Dec 29 10:20:58 heyho Dec 29 10:26:52 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * read66935c6d6 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/ (22 files in 2 dirs): fsogsmd: split atmediators into seperate files and put into at subdirectory Dec 29 10:27:34 good morning morphis! we need to talk for a bit, but i need to prepare breakfast first. will you be there later today? Dec 29 10:28:14 mickey|bbl: heyho Dec 29 10:28:19 jepp I will be here later Dec 29 10:28:22 great Dec 29 10:28:37 i have done quite some work over the last couple of day and want to sync with you Dec 29 10:28:38 bbl Dec 29 10:28:39 but will be off from 13:00 until 17:00 Dec 29 10:28:51 ok Dec 29 11:26:01 morphis, hi Dec 29 11:30:58 GNUtoo|htcdream: heyho Dec 29 11:32:27 you did a power control for wifi and bluetooth for palm-pre Dec 29 11:32:39 I did one too for htcdream(wifi) but didn't test it Dec 29 11:32:52 basically it does modprobe msm_wifi Dec 29 11:32:57 modprobe -r msm_wifi Dec 29 11:33:00 so I wonder Dec 29 11:33:27 will it override the other methods or complement them Dec 29 11:33:35 other methods are ifconfig and rfkill Dec 29 11:33:53 and they work fine if you manually modprobe rfkill Dec 29 11:36:26 on htcdream? Dec 29 11:36:45 ok Dec 29 11:36:53 yes Dec 29 11:36:57 never really looked into rfkill Dec 29 11:37:01 and how it works Dec 29 11:37:15 and I didn't try it for palmpre Dec 29 11:37:57 ok Dec 29 11:38:52 it was just to ask if modprobe msm_wifi replaced rfkill or not Dec 29 11:40:32 have to leave now, let us talk about that later Dec 29 11:40:48 ok np Dec 29 11:44:37 morphis: hi, are you gone? i will be here today and tomorrow Dec 29 12:22:00 I'm having problems building an shr image. In dbus package do_compile: Dec 29 12:22:06 arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-libtool: link: `/media/part_ext4/OE/shr-unstable/tmp/sysroots/armv5te-oe-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/libuuid.la' is not a valid libtool archive Dec 29 12:22:14 gday btw :) Dec 29 12:26:43 pespin,hmmm interesting(you have armv5) Dec 29 12:27:24 pespin, does your CPU/SOC has immx? Dec 29 12:27:53 GNUtoo|htcdream, yeah htc artemis is armv5 Dec 29 12:28:23 GNUtoo|htcdream, uhm I'll look at /proc/cupinfo later and paste it to you, let me go to buy some bread first :) Dec 29 12:28:50 btw do you know which recipe does provide libuuid? Dec 29 12:28:58 ok np Dec 29 12:29:01 I'll try cleaning and rebuilding it Dec 29 12:29:02 yes Dec 29 12:29:14 i think ext2something Dec 29 12:29:38 ok thanks Dec 29 12:29:43 I'll be back in 5 min. Dec 29 12:29:49 ok Dec 29 12:32:56 hello everyone Dec 29 12:33:12 hi Dec 29 12:33:22 what is the alsa sound device in SHR (freerunner) ? Dec 29 12:33:53 isn' it hw:0,0 ? Dec 29 12:38:05 should be,apart that i'm not sure of the syntax Dec 29 12:38:41 when i run aplay -l Dec 29 12:38:58 it throws error : alsa lib control.c:909 (snd_ctl_open_noupdate) invalid ctl hw:0 Dec 29 12:39:43 if i run aplay -D hw:0,0 , it shows error , no such device Dec 29 12:40:10 hmmm Dec 29 12:40:24 the sound driver module is loaded? Dec 29 12:45:18 GNUtoo|htcdream, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/311289/ Dec 29 12:46:02 GNUtoo|htcdream, if you want more info just tell me :) Dec 29 12:47:19 ok,thanks,no immx Dec 29 12:47:47 basically i asked that because the ezx had immx Dec 29 12:48:03 and there was a feed issue with them Dec 29 12:48:10 do_rootfs failed Dec 29 12:48:40 don't know what is it name ? Dec 29 12:48:47 because it didn't find (the immx version of) mplayer Dec 29 12:48:48 GNUtoo|htcdream, what's this immx about? Dec 29 12:48:53 what is the name of sound driver module ? Dec 29 12:49:40 pespin, i think immx are smid like neon. but it's just a guess Dec 29 12:50:14 lol, recursive question now on smid and neon xD Dec 29 12:50:18 I'll look at google Dec 29 12:50:23 ok lol Dec 29 12:50:28 smid = Dec 29 12:50:40 single instruction multiple data Dec 29 12:50:58 like mmx ,sse in x86 cpu Dec 29 12:51:17 neon is an SMID for armv7 Dec 29 12:53:04 if I were in old studies plan at univ, I would have done x86 asm this semester, but it has changed with bologne plan u.u Dec 29 12:54:27 all the people who started the year before, like me, started with old plan but this year we were all moved to bologne plan. Dec 29 12:54:41 And now people in 1st course are doing MIPS asm Dec 29 12:54:58 ok Dec 29 12:54:58 but people of my year... we haven't done MIPS neither X86 lol Dec 29 12:55:24 * GNUtoo|htcdream did MIPS ams but arm would have been better.... Dec 29 12:55:31 so I've only done SISA asm (educational machine) and PIC18 asm Dec 29 12:55:39 but I learned arm later anyway Dec 29 12:55:53 i did SPIM assembly Dec 29 12:56:43 is ARM more difficult/complex than MIPS? maybe that's the reason why they teach MIPS instead of ARM Dec 29 12:57:10 yes I think so Dec 29 12:57:42 also we learned pipeling,that works well with mips CPU Dec 29 13:02:04 * pespin reading about it in wikipedia Dec 29 13:02:58 I haven't seen that so far at univ neither. Dec 29 13:03:36 also for instance arm uses flags for conditions etc... Dec 29 13:03:40 that isn't there in mips Dec 29 13:08:57 GNUtoo|laptop, e2fsprogs does not have libuuid any more Dec 29 13:09:12 ok Dec 29 13:09:15 I' m trying with util-linux-ng right now Dec 29 13:09:18 ok Dec 29 13:09:28 I wasn't sure which one had it Dec 29 13:25:53 GNUtoo|laptop, fyi util-linux-ng was the correct one :) Dec 29 13:26:05 launch time! Dec 29 13:27:13 hello everyone Dec 29 13:29:24 can anybody let me know whats the alsa sound device name in SHR ? Dec 29 13:29:33 aplay -l , shows nothing Dec 29 13:33:04 instead its throwing an error ,ALSA lib control.c:909 (snd_ctl_open_noupdate) invalid CTL:hw:0 Dec 29 13:33:22 alsa module not loaded ? Dec 29 13:34:42 try default instead of hw:0 Dec 29 13:36:02 mickeyl, hi Dec 29 13:36:16 hi GNUtoo|laptop Dec 29 13:36:22 mickeyl, I'm tired of typing tons of commands for enabling the htcdream wifi, so I did a power plugin Dec 29 13:36:28 I'll try to try it Dec 29 13:36:49 basically rfkill+ifconfig doesn't handle modprobe msm_wifi Dec 29 13:37:08 I'll add rfkill to htcdream fsodeviced too Dec 29 13:37:15 *fsodeviced.conf Dec 29 13:37:50 yeah, it's pathetic, needs an all-in-one powercontrol plugin that handles that stuff Dec 29 13:38:43 all-in one Dec 29 13:38:45 ouch Dec 29 13:38:52 I tryed rfkill and ifconfig Dec 29 13:39:09 they works fine but they need modprobe msm_wifi Dec 29 13:39:22 how can I re-use rfkill and ifconfig? Dec 29 13:39:26 in the plugin Dec 29 13:41:08 i don't think you want to call plugins from plugins Dec 29 13:41:18 you might want to call Linux.rfkill Dec 29 13:41:21 and ifconfig Dec 29 13:41:23 and modprobe Dec 29 13:41:41 I just want do do something like that Dec 29 13:41:42 and put that in one module that specifically covers the quirks for the htcdream's wifi Dec 29 13:41:59 do_poweron_prepend = modprobe Dec 29 13:42:13 the rest of the modules works fine Dec 29 13:42:56 anyway I'll try Dec 29 13:43:05 but I've to finish to compile shr-image first Dec 29 13:43:53 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-wizard * r94deff37e2f1 10/python/shr-wizard.py: python: handle errors on closing page Dec 29 13:44:42 hmm Dec 29 13:44:54 i wonder whether it might be useful to implement a small script language for power control issues Dec 29 13:45:43 or I might make a more generic module Dec 29 13:45:58 powercontrol_modprobe Dec 29 13:48:08 hmm Dec 29 13:48:17 i'm not sure whether all these powercontrol_foo are a good idea Dec 29 13:48:28 why? Dec 29 13:48:31 we get combinatorical explosion, if one peripheral entity needs more than one Dec 29 13:48:36 they are supposed and can work together Dec 29 13:48:52 for instance on htcdream it works with 2 powercontrols Dec 29 13:48:57 rfkill + ifconfig Dec 29 13:49:15 yes Dec 29 13:49:20 I mean: Dec 29 13:49:23 but that kind of violates our semantics Dec 29 13:49:25 modprobe msm_wifi Dec 29 13:49:27 iliwi Dec 29 13:49:29 and it works Dec 29 13:49:32 ah? Dec 29 13:49:39 one powercontrol plugin should be responsible for 1 or n peripheral entities Dec 29 13:49:52 yes but that would make code duplication no? Dec 29 13:49:54 unless. Dec 29 13:49:59 s/./.../ Dec 29 13:49:59 GNUtoo|laptop meant: unless... Dec 29 13:50:04 we inherit from some classes Dec 29 13:50:30 i don't mind code duplication in these highly device specific classes Dec 29 13:50:49 but again, this is where scripting could help Dec 29 13:50:56 if we would define something like Dec 29 13:51:15 htcdream_wifi = modprobe foo; ifconfig bar; rfkill Dec 29 13:51:22 and perhaps even Dec 29 13:51:26 start_service: baz Dec 29 13:51:34 because that's more or less what can happen Dec 29 13:51:49 starting/stopping services, loading/unloading modules, controlling interfaces, controlling rfkill Dec 29 13:52:18 >>> gsmnetwork.ListProviders(timeout=1000*60*5) Dec 29 13:52:18 [ ('unknown', 'Alice', 'Alice', '26207', 'GSM'), Dec 29 13:52:18 ('unknown', 'Vodafone.de', 'Vodafone.de', '26202', 'GSM'), Dec 29 13:52:18 ('unknown', 'Alice', 'Alice', '26201', 'GSM'), Dec 29 13:52:18 ('unknown', 'E-Plus', 'E-Plus', '26203', 'GSM')] Dec 29 13:52:20 [n900] Dec 29 13:52:23 nice Dec 29 13:52:40 * GNUtoo|laptop failed because I couldn't power on the modem Dec 29 13:54:04 any idea when sre will be online? Dec 29 13:54:09 need to talk to him wrt. isi plans Dec 29 13:54:14 launching pidgin Dec 29 13:54:25 i will soon be at the point where i have everything implemented in fsogsmd what libisi provides Dec 29 13:54:42 he's online Dec 29 13:55:07 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r589fb1a79d3a 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/ (9 files): fsogsmd: files have moved to at/ subdir Dec 29 13:55:08 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rccacf6d72a11 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_nokia_isi/ (mediators.vala plugin.vala): fsogsmd: modem_nokia_isi: implement NetworkListProviders (partially) Dec 29 13:55:10 ah, he just doesn't IRC :) Dec 29 13:55:18 I just told him to come Dec 29 13:55:21 cool, thanks Dec 29 13:56:00 btw I've an issue in #oe Dec 29 13:56:01 heya Dec 29 13:56:03 hi Dec 29 13:56:07 hi Dec 29 13:56:45 sre_: you might have seen that i started glueing libisi to fsogsmd. I have a bunch of questions, if you have a moment Dec 29 13:57:01 sure Dec 29 13:57:05 are you @27c3? Dec 29 13:57:11 unfortunately not this year Dec 29 13:57:16 :( Dec 29 13:57:26 would FOSDEM be an opportunity for you? Dec 29 13:57:55 I have not checked yet if I can attend Dec 29 13:58:14 ok, might be a good thing. anyways, to my questions: Dec 29 13:58:23 mickeyl, do we have some talk to do at fosdem in the "open source telephony" room? Dec 29 13:58:57 ugh Dec 29 13:58:57 | arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-g++: /media/part_ext4/OE/shr-unstable/tmp/sysroots/i686-linux/usr/armv5te/lib/gcc/arm-oe-linux-gnueabi/4.5.2/crtbeginS.o: No such file or directory Dec 29 13:59:18 general remark first: i like the callback scheme, it fits nicely into our mediators, as you can see if you take a look at http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=blob;f=fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_nokia_isi/mediators.vala;h=658dae194854eb92c8f26cee87b80cfcf1810566;hb=ccacf6d72a1137c28d27654b149498ad5726f9dc Dec 29 13:59:38 1. errors: can we convey a bit more about potential errors than just a boolean? Dec 29 13:59:48 pespin|away, come in #oe Dec 29 14:00:01 or is that everyting we get from ISI? Dec 29 14:00:41 2. what do we actually resue from ofono in libisi or rather... what do we need to implement for a new call? Dec 29 14:00:59 3. what are your priorities wrt. further functionality Dec 29 14:01:03 that's what i can think of atm. Dec 29 14:02:22 mickeyl, he wants 3g first Dec 29 14:02:32 but I don't know if he has time to work on it Dec 29 14:03:40 3g being...? Dec 29 14:03:47 data connectivity? Dec 29 14:04:09 or connecting to 3g operators? Dec 29 14:05:45 data Dec 29 14:05:55 like gprs on the openmoko Dec 29 14:06:42 1: you get more detailed errors as parameters. We can change it to make the return code a status code of course. Dec 29 14:07:49 ofono guys used the boolean for communication errors with the modem Dec 29 14:07:51 ya, that might be helpful. i have a complete lack of understanding what kind of information we can convey from ISI, so i need to learn a bit more Dec 29 14:07:57 ah Dec 29 14:08:06 so the their error is really an exceptional cause Dec 29 14:10:15 2: I used their lowlevel code (gisi), apart from this I'm not reusing code Dec 29 14:12:12 ok, so we basically have to recreate what their doing just without our own datatypes and callbacks Dec 29 14:12:25 i was wondering whether we could reuse a bit more, but that doesn't seem feasible then Dec 29 14:12:44 their code makes heavy use of internal ofono structures Dec 29 14:12:55 right, ok. Dec 29 14:14:00 I tcpdump'd a call yesterday btw (harald's gsm network rocks :)) Dec 29 14:14:58 it's just ~ 40 packets Dec 29 14:17:14 http://files.ring0.de/sre/ccc-isi-logs/ for anyone who is interested Dec 29 14:18:41 heh, nice, thanks Dec 29 14:19:13 i think call handling would be more important than data connectivity, but it's your call of course Dec 29 14:19:27 i don't have time to actually help w/ libisi, but i can take care of the Vala bindings and the fsogsmd integration Dec 29 14:20:44 JaMa|Ski: I think cancelling your dyndns account must have been some accident... they explicitely said existing accounts would stay intact. (while for new free accounts the features are drastically reduced, including the number of available domain names IIRC) Dec 29 14:20:46 maybe sms should be tried before calls Dec 29 14:22:36 that depends on how they're formatted Dec 29 14:22:50 SMS can be pandora's box, if they don't use standard PDU formatting Dec 29 14:23:38 when implementing calls you have to take care of the audio routing. Dec 29 14:24:04 the call establishing itself should be easy to implement Dec 29 14:27:09 cool Dec 29 14:27:19 audio routing is something we need to tackle sooner or later anyways Dec 29 14:27:34 so call handling could be an incentive to do it sooner than later ;) Dec 29 14:31:20 about sms encoding: ofono is supposed to have sms support Dec 29 14:46:24 ok Dec 29 14:49:57 what does ISI client error -110 meanß Dec 29 14:49:58 ? Dec 29 14:50:14 (could be an artifact of forwarding, i.e. two clients talk in parallel to the modem) Dec 29 14:52:01 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rc26b9e6179cf 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_nokia_isi/mediators.vala: fsogsmd: modem_nokia_isi: add network provider availability status in NetworkListProviders Dec 29 15:19:47 mickeyl, on xmpp, sre has the busy state Dec 29 15:24:27 hmm, ok, thanks Dec 29 15:28:26 what's the meaning of power led two blue flashes on maemo? Dec 29 15:33:40 I don't know, I don't use maemo Dec 29 15:33:45 maybe their wiki knows Dec 29 15:37:50 mickeyl, maybe there is an error header somewhere? Dec 29 15:40:31 anyway I really have issues compiling for htcdream Dec 29 15:40:44 maybe I should start from scratch Dec 29 15:41:10 anyway can I do a modprobe plugin? Dec 29 15:41:30 because waiting is not that good Dec 29 15:41:56 feel free to do what helps Dec 29 15:42:00 I mean If I had choosen to wait for fsotldt..... Dec 29 15:42:02 we might need a serious cleanup afterwards Dec 29 15:42:07 ok Dec 29 15:54:36 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libisi * r9b89c92c3f15 10/data/libisi.vapi: vapi: fix RegistrationStatus enum Dec 29 16:23:43 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r41892701093a 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_nokia_isi/ (channel.vala mediators.vala): fsogsmd: modem_nokia_isi: start with NetworkGetStatus, further work pending a vala/gdbus bug Dec 29 16:25:05 mickeyl: two blue flashes? message Dec 29 16:25:29 mickeyl: IM or SMS Dec 29 16:26:05 ah right, it vanished when i read it Dec 29 16:26:07 thanks Dec 29 16:26:32 now it's green again Dec 29 17:16:23 mickeyl: so I am back Dec 29 17:16:33 ok Dec 29 17:16:37 i need to go for dinner soon Dec 29 17:16:40 we have 10 minutes though Dec 29 17:16:44 ok Dec 29 17:16:49 so Dec 29 17:17:00 as you may have seen the gdbus transition has been done Dec 29 17:17:05 jepp Dec 29 17:17:12 some bits are left Dec 29 17:17:14 like msmcomm Dec 29 17:17:15 yep Dec 29 17:17:33 but I will do the transition for them as well in the next days Dec 29 17:17:36 ok, excellent Dec 29 17:17:50 moreover, i did some work on n900 Dec 29 17:18:06 which i want to highlight to you since we talked about how to integrate a callback-based lowlevel system into the mediators Dec 29 17:18:13 ok Dec 29 17:18:36 look e.g. at http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=blob;f=fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_nokia_isi/mediators.vala;h=8ea112ca66829af2b72133875edc7469b662f3ca;hb=41892701093a5c33bebb09dcb4d77ab63f81097a Dec 29 17:18:46 it's quite straightforward Dec 29 17:18:48 you did it with lambda's Dec 29 17:18:55 ya. closures rock da house Dec 29 17:18:58 ok Dec 29 17:19:21 so we save a custom command queue with that approach Dec 29 17:19:29 great Dec 29 17:19:38 and it's readable Dec 29 17:19:39 and also most of the channel abstraction, since we only have one channel Dec 29 17:19:42 correct Dec 29 17:19:53 i think we can apply this approach to other non-AT modems in the future as well Dec 29 17:20:15 and eventually i will then factor out some more state logic Dec 29 17:20:19 which until now is pretty AT centric Dec 29 17:20:23 you mean this callback logic? Dec 29 17:20:42 yeah Dec 29 17:20:47 (state logic) definitly Dec 29 17:21:16 in the dbus for msmcommd case it's even simpler, since we already have async interfaces, so we can even directly yield there Dec 29 17:21:25 msmcomm is quite the same with it's dbus async methods Dec 29 17:21:29 jepp Dec 29 17:21:50 I only thought about abstracting the msmcomm dbus api a bit more Dec 29 17:22:31 implement something like enqueueCommand("resetModem", new HashMap { "mode" : "full" }) Dec 29 17:23:02 but thats far away Dec 29 17:23:04 k Dec 29 17:23:15 first other things need to be done Dec 29 17:23:33 and I hope I can get more people work on the pre phoens Dec 29 17:23:34 wrt. the general stability of gdbus i have no idea, i'm afraid. i did not have time to do a full build on one of the embedded systems. the stuff works good on my desktop though Dec 29 17:23:43 ok Dec 29 17:23:50 morphis: the more the FR rottens, the more people will get newer stuff ;) Dec 29 17:23:55 want to test it with the shr-image's on the pre in the next days Dec 29 17:23:58 :) Dec 29 17:24:16 I need more man power .... digging into rootfs bugs sucks ... Dec 29 17:24:22 hmm, i can imagine Dec 29 17:24:27 this house keeping work is so annoying Dec 29 17:24:53 anyway how long your are out now? Dec 29 17:25:01 as I have to make launch as well Dec 29 17:25:20 1.5 hours or so. as i have some time these days, i might be back when my wife fell asleep... like 23.00 or so Dec 29 17:25:28 hm ok Dec 29 17:25:34 your are there tomorrow? Dec 29 17:26:19 around noon, yes. my availability is quite good until next monday Dec 29 17:26:35 so lets try to stick as much as possible into the next 4 days :) Dec 29 17:26:37 bbl, dinner Dec 29 18:14:55 mickey|dinner: what about the following error message when compiling libfsoframe: Dec 29 18:14:56 dbus.c:3752: warning: passing argument 1 of ‘_dbus_handle_dbus_service_id_bus_sync_name_owner_changed’ from incompatible pointer type Dec 29 18:14:56 dbus.c:3721: note: expected ‘struct DBusServiceIDBusSync *’ but argument is of type ‘struct GDBusProxy *’ Dec 29 18:15:18 morphis, ping Dec 29 18:15:30 GNUtoo|laptop: pong Dec 29 18:15:34 I need more man power .... digging into rootfs bugs sucks ... Dec 29 18:15:41 what kind of bugs? Dec 29 18:15:41 :) Dec 29 18:16:00 I've some free time Dec 29 18:16:01 everything you need to get a running SHR image Dec 29 18:16:05 but I can't compile Dec 29 18:16:13 as it's already compiling Dec 29 18:16:22 like tsmd <-> fsodeviced interaction Dec 29 18:16:22 or I could use my desktop but that would be slow Dec 29 18:16:24 jepp Dec 29 18:16:25 ah ok Dec 29 18:16:36 more "integration" work sounds better ... Dec 29 18:16:36 I thought it was more core stugg Dec 29 18:16:40 no Dec 29 18:16:41 like some openembedded bugs Dec 29 18:16:46 but there is something Dec 29 18:16:48 like not booting, etc.... Dec 29 18:16:58 we need support for a palmpre2 machine Dec 29 18:17:02 ah ok Dec 29 18:17:10 so there are some differences Dec 29 18:17:12 kernel? Dec 29 18:17:13 thats maybe something you could do Dec 29 18:17:16 only kernel Dec 29 18:17:17 ok Dec 29 18:17:24 I even know how to do that Dec 29 18:17:24 I do you test? Dec 29 18:17:35 basically there is a machine class Dec 29 18:17:39 jepp Dec 29 18:17:45 I've the same problem with htcdream Dec 29 18:17:52 we need a MACHINE_CLASS = "palmpre" Dec 29 18:17:55 yes Dec 29 18:18:01 and then a palmpre.inc Dec 29 18:18:04 but palmpre is already taken? Dec 29 18:18:08 as machine Dec 29 18:18:08 + palmpre.conf + palmpre2.conf Dec 29 18:18:11 jepp Dec 29 18:18:14 hmm Dec 29 18:18:19 palmpre.conf is already there Dec 29 18:18:21 maybe let's discuss that in #oe Dec 29 18:18:27 and is used as override Dec 29 18:18:37 <[Rui]> hiya Dec 29 18:18:55 <[Rui]> how's the gdbus migration doing? Dec 29 18:19:01 damn, my desktop is sucking .... focus is bound to some control and I cannot change it ... Dec 29 18:19:12 [Rui]: it's mostly done Dec 29 18:19:22 <[Rui]> yay! looking good? Dec 29 18:19:44 most stuff is done Dec 29 18:20:05 we need to test userland and adjust more stuff to support Dec 29 18:20:05 it Dec 29 18:20:14 * morphis will be back in some minutes ... Dec 29 18:23:11 hmpf Dec 29 18:38:36 JaMa, libphoneui fails Dec 29 18:38:47 on htcdream fresh oe pull Dec 29 18:38:59 it also failed on nokia900 Dec 29 18:39:02 before Dec 29 18:44:32 2 people have same problem (libphoneui) in ml Dec 29 18:45:30 free_smartphone_pim_get_call_query_proxy Dec 29 18:45:31 ok Dec 29 18:45:36 so I should wait for that too Dec 29 18:45:39 I'm waiting Dec 29 18:45:44 for many things Dec 29 18:45:57 I'm waiting for the lowlevel_nokia900 plugin Dec 29 18:46:03 GNUtoo|laptop, uhm I think there's another person in ml which had same problem as you with perl Dec 29 18:46:04 so I did something else waiting for it Dec 29 18:46:08 ok Dec 29 18:46:17 but I worked arround Dec 29 18:46:22 rebuilding from scratch Dec 29 18:46:49 then I wanted to work on htcdream waiting for the lowlevel_nokia900 plugin to work Dec 29 18:46:54 as they changed the kernel Dec 29 18:47:05 I don't have anymore a way to activate the modem Dec 29 18:47:10 so I can't work on libisi either Dec 29 18:47:23 so the plan was powercontrol_htcdream Dec 29 18:47:24 GNUtoo|laptop: I know, the same for phonefsod Dec 29 18:47:28 ok Dec 29 18:47:33 GNUtoo|laptop: also iliwi and ffalarms fails Dec 29 18:47:35 so I should wait Dec 29 18:47:45 I bet it's gdbus Dec 29 18:48:21 yes Dec 29 18:48:53 mrmoku said he started the migration of shr stuff so I'm waiting for him to return and push whatever he already has Dec 29 18:49:20 * JaMa is leaving tomorrow and will return around 3.1. Dec 29 18:49:38 ok Dec 29 19:02:43 the latested 2.6.37 for the freerunner looks promising. no wsod so far and the peripherals i'v tested seem to work Dec 29 19:05:04 JaMa: BTW. thanks for u-boot, works perfectly :) Dec 29 19:12:07 morphis_: that's not an error message Dec 29 19:13:48 mickeyl: jepp Dec 29 19:14:34 but a warning we can ignore? Dec 29 19:15:03 yes Dec 29 19:15:26 vala is missing emitting a couple of casts Dec 29 19:15:28 but that's harmless Dec 29 19:28:04 larsc: nice, great to hear it Dec 29 19:28:27 larsc: great to see you are still interested in FR :) Dec 29 19:31:24 larsc: are you using u-boot btw? Dec 29 19:31:34 larsc: will be great to see git link :) Dec 29 19:32:31 lindi-: well uboot in the rom and qi on flash Dec 29 19:33:18 larsc: ok. Dec 29 19:33:44 gena2x: sure. i'm still doing some testing, but i think i'll push the trees later today Dec 29 19:36:49 larsc: great, thanks for your efforts! hm, .37 still not released... Dec 29 19:37:17 only rc8 Dec 29 19:38:08 larsc: got any plans on upstreaming stuff? I went through the patches in qtmoko-v31 and at least some of them look like they could be upstreamed Dec 29 19:40:57 lindi-: well more stuff upstream means less work for me on new kernel releases. so it is still the plan to get as much as possible upstream Dec 29 19:41:00 but as Linus announced "This should be the last for the 37 series", it's ok. Dec 29 19:46:41 i'll send a post about the wosd fix to the list shortly Dec 29 19:48:41 you did special one? Dec 29 19:48:47 * gena2x interested Dec 29 19:49:45 i mean i did some patches in effort to fight wsod Dec 29 19:50:00 and in fact here it is eliminated Dec 29 19:50:16 so, you did something else? Dec 29 19:50:47 mickeyl: I am currently compiling a shr-lite-image on amethyst with latest fso Dec 29 19:50:47 <[Rui]> gena2x: hi, two days arriving home more wasted than a dog... and today I've got a migraine, so I guess we won't be able to continue our tests today. Dec 29 19:51:02 mickeyl: we will see if it works ... Dec 29 19:51:13 gena2x: none of your patches helped for the 2.6.37 tree Dec 29 19:51:52 [Rui]: wait, we have new fix from larsc, hope to test it soon Dec 29 19:52:19 larsc: looking forward for mail & description Dec 29 19:52:29 <[Rui]> gena2x: potential fix for WS? :) looking forward to testing it even with a migraine! Dec 29 19:53:27 morphis_: okies Dec 29 19:54:00 [Rui]: http://metafoo.de/s3c24xx-openmoko-gta02-2.6.37-uImage Dec 29 19:54:06 damn it ... why people check in codes that does not compile and don't fix it? Dec 29 19:54:31 <[Rui]> larsc: should that kernel be compatible with current shr kernel modules? Dec 29 19:54:45 [Rui]: it's for .37 Dec 29 19:54:55 [Rui]: nope Dec 29 19:55:10 <[Rui]> larsc: ok, have a tar.gz of the modules? Dec 29 19:56:59 [Rui]: let him publish the findings and code for new .37 first :) Dec 29 19:57:06 mail is sent Dec 29 19:57:07 [Rui]: wouldn't package management be a bit easier way? ;) Dec 29 19:57:17 i've also pushed the patch to .34 repo Dec 29 19:57:31 <[Rui]> lindi-: sure, but if I can test a kernel fix not yet packaged, I'm all for it :) Dec 29 20:06:20 larsc: so basically you've added 100ms delay :) Dec 29 20:06:53 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * re44435036a66 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_nokia_isi/mediators.vala: fsogsmd: modem_nokia_isi: IsiNetworkGetStatus works now. Still missing a couple of fields, but we take what we get from libisi Dec 29 20:07:27 morphis_: where, me? Dec 29 20:07:54 mickeyl: no ... Dec 29 20:07:56 gena2x: and changed the order in which regulator and reset pin are turned on Dec 29 20:08:19 mickeyl: I quite some kind of odd to care about code quaility ... Dec 29 20:08:27 when other don't do that Dec 29 20:08:35 I don't want to blame somebody ... Dec 29 20:08:45 larsc: i though regulators need some time to stabilise voltage Dec 29 20:09:15 larsc: have you tried just adding delay without changing order, does that work? Dec 29 20:09:52 i haven't tried Dec 29 20:10:01 but it will probably work as well Dec 29 20:10:15 >>> gsmnetwork.GetStatus() Dec 29 20:10:15 { 'act': 'GSM', Dec 29 20:10:15 'cid': '4E49', Dec 29 20:10:15 'code': '26207', Dec 29 20:10:15 'display': 'o2 - de', Dec 29 20:10:21 'registration': 'home', Dec 29 20:10:23 'strength': 98} Dec 29 20:10:25 GNUtoo|laptop: ^^ n900 Dec 29 20:11:21 re Dec 29 20:11:23 wow it progresses Dec 29 20:12:05 yeah, but i'm almost done to what libisi provides :) Dec 29 20:12:19 heh @ccc we have cid 1337 and mnc 42 :D Dec 29 20:12:25 cool Dec 29 20:12:33 oh, btw. Dec 29 20:12:39 i get a timeout for get_revision Dec 29 20:12:41 is that normal? Dec 29 20:13:12 lol Dec 29 20:13:18 mh I got the revision correctly :P Dec 29 20:13:23 let me retry: Dec 29 20:13:54 MDBUS2> org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.Info.GetInfo Dec 29 20:13:54 ( { "revision": "unknown", "imei": "356938032119274", "manufacturer": "Nokia", "model": "Nokia N900" } ) Dec 29 20:14:04 takes a couple of seconds Dec 29 20:14:07 and in the mid i get: Dec 29 20:14:09 ** (process:10834): DEBUG: ISI client error: -110 Dec 29 20:14:12 larsc: so, this your fix is absolutely identical to one of my fixes: https://github.com/radekp/linux-2.6/commit/9451f9ddcd822b5ed3c401e5f501521cb3240947 Dec 29 20:14:33 * GNUtoo|htcdream| wants to try but can't poweron the modem..... Dec 29 20:14:52 2.6.28 had at least an activator Dec 29 20:15:00 that was standalone Dec 29 20:15:27 larsc: sad, but this time you reinvented the wheel :( Dec 29 20:15:37 GNUtoo|htcdream|: can't you boot 2.6.28 until lowlevel_n900 is fixed? Dec 29 20:15:38 (+ better touchscreen precision abd bt coex) Dec 29 20:15:45 i didn't mean to make 2.6.28 disappear when i merged the .35 Dec 29 20:15:48 feel free to bring it back Dec 29 20:15:56 i could try but userland has changed Dec 29 20:16:06 such as xorg.conf etc.... Dec 29 20:16:07 larsc: please, commit my patches next time instead of making same things again... Dec 29 20:16:16 ah? Dec 29 20:16:17 *same Dec 29 20:16:19 GNUtoo|htcdream|: well, it's easy to tweak manually :P Dec 29 20:16:26 ok Dec 29 20:16:34 i didn't look closely enough Dec 29 20:16:41 i thought the patches would add .35 in _addition_ Dec 29 20:16:46 else maybe we go to mrmoku's 2.6.37? Dec 29 20:16:54 yes, even better Dec 29 20:16:54 ah ok Dec 29 20:17:13 gena2x: i think i tried it by setting the regulator turn on delay to 200. and i think i still had wsods Dec 29 20:17:22 * mickeyl is fixed with .28 and maemo anyways until telephony works :/ Dec 29 20:17:39 larsc: hm... may be that gpio function really sleeps then? Dec 29 20:17:56 larsc: and order really matter? Dec 29 20:19:04 maybe Dec 29 20:19:19 bbl Dec 29 20:19:59 larsc: we still have few users who expierence WSOD with my patches, let's see your version will fix it for them Dec 29 20:22:28 [Rui]: we have something to test :) Dec 29 20:27:45 <[Rui]> gena2x: :) Dec 29 20:28:11 hello everyone, Peace be with you Dec 29 20:32:41 mickeyl: glib build fails for me with: "gdbus-serialization.c:28:23: fatal error: dbus/dbus.h: No such file or directory" Dec 29 20:33:06 mickeyl: it's glib-2.0-2.26.1-r0 Dec 29 20:38:43 maybe we should make a todo list of broken stuff in oe? Dec 29 20:40:01 maybe Dec 29 20:40:50 it's a good idea Dec 29 20:40:57 will add a list to the wiki page Dec 29 20:41:12 because currently a lot of stuff is broken Dec 29 20:41:24 some libuiphone stuff Dec 29 20:41:29 gilb Dec 29 20:41:42 etc... Dec 29 20:43:35 could be effect|cause|who is affected|workarround or solution Dec 29 20:43:55 someone already digged into the broken glib-2.0 stuff? Dec 29 20:44:40 I did a build from scratch for htcdream and I think glib-2.0 compiled Dec 29 20:44:43 I'll look Dec 29 20:44:48 ok Dec 29 20:45:47 /home/gnutoo/embedded/oe/oetmps/htcdream/work/armv6-novfp-oe-linux-gnueabi/glib-2.0-2.26.1-r0/temp/log.do_install.14560 Dec 29 20:45:50 exists Dec 29 20:46:13 hm for glib there is already a patch Dec 29 20:46:16 basically I had a compiler issue Dec 29 20:46:17 have to update my branch Dec 29 20:46:25 so I rebuilt from scratch Dec 29 20:46:26 which kind of? Dec 29 20:46:30 ah ok Dec 29 20:46:36 arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-g++: /home/gnutoo/embedded/oe/oetmps/htcdream/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/armv6-novfp/lib/gcc/arm-oe-linux-gnueabi/4.5.2/crtbeginS.o: No such file or directory Dec 29 20:46:41 + some perl issues too Dec 29 20:46:59 perl: symbol lookup error: /home/gnutoo/embedded/oe/oetmps/htcdream/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/lib/perl/5.8.8/auto/XML/Parser/Expat/Expat.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Tstack_sp_ptr Dec 29 20:47:03 which caused: Dec 29 20:47:12 | checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool Dec 29 20:47:40 rebuilding from scratche fixed theses....but....but other stuff that broke at runtime broke at compile time Dec 29 20:47:50 hm Dec 29 20:48:06 basically the phoneui-wrapper that uses 100% CPU because it doesn't start Dec 29 20:48:16 (because there was some undefined symbol) Dec 29 20:48:24 same undefined symbol....but at compilation Dec 29 20:48:31 or linking Dec 29 20:49:15 hm sounds strange Dec 29 20:49:30 sounds like some PR not bumped Dec 29 20:49:39 like libs changing Dec 29 20:49:42 and not programs Dec 29 20:49:50 and program can't find lib symbol anymore Dec 29 20:50:01 in the case where you don't build from scratch Dec 29 20:50:15 but in the case you rebuild also the program.....that doesn't compile Dec 29 20:50:33 GNUtoo|laptop: it looks like gdbus issue Dec 29 20:50:34 because the symbols that were present only in the past before aren't there Dec 29 20:50:37 yes Dec 29 20:50:42 it's a gdbus issue Dec 29 20:50:56 GNUtoo|laptop: both dbus-glib and gdbus are there at compilation Dec 29 20:51:07 it's rather some symbols Dec 29 20:51:09 GNUtoo|laptop: but libfso-glib now uses only gdbus, and phonefsod tries to use dbus-glib Dec 29 20:51:10 let me find them Dec 29 20:51:38 GNUtoo|laptop: mickeyl already said - just use proxies directly from gdbus, instead of asking libfso-glib for them Dec 29 20:51:55 yes but is there a howto to fix? Dec 29 20:51:59 should I wait or help? Dec 29 20:52:07 GNUtoo|laptop: i won't do that cause i barely write in C, and i don't have build env right now Dec 29 20:52:11 * GNUtoo|laptop doesn't know this stuff at all Dec 29 20:52:20 I've build env Dec 29 20:52:27 GNUtoo|laptop: maybe try fixing and ask mickeyl what to do ;) Dec 29 20:52:30 I know C a bit Dec 29 20:52:39 s/fixing/to fix/ Dec 29 20:52:40 dos1 meant: GNUtoo|laptop: maybe try to fix and ask mickeyl what to do ;) Dec 29 20:52:54 (not perfect C because I rely too often on the compiler) Dec 29 20:52:55 can any one help me finding the alsa device on free runner with SHR ? Dec 29 20:53:13 but there was some work done for perl in SHR as I see on the commit log Dec 29 20:53:14 EsEhAr, do you know proc interface? Dec 29 20:53:22 yes Dec 29 20:53:34 EsEhAr, so cat the alsa info there and pastebin it Dec 29 20:53:38 I do have /proc/asound/devices Dec 29 20:53:45 EsEhAr, yes that Dec 29 20:53:48 what's inside? Dec 29 20:54:11 JaMa: ping Dec 29 20:54:29 cat /proc/asound/devices Dec 29 20:54:31 0: [0] : control Dec 29 20:54:32 16:[0-0]:digital audio playback Dec 29 20:54:34 17:[0-1]:digital audio playback Dec 29 20:54:35 24:[0-0]: digital audio capture Dec 29 20:54:37 25:[0-1]: digital audio capture Dec 29 20:54:45 ok, next time use a pastebin Dec 29 20:54:55 what's in /proc/asound/cards Dec 29 20:55:02 sorry , I m new here Dec 29 20:55:27 as you knew /proc interface for sound card I assumed that you knew what a pastebin is Dec 29 20:56:04 http://pastebin.com/ Dec 29 20:56:19 http://pastebin.ca/ Dec 29 20:56:20 etc... Dec 29 20:56:51 its 0[newo1973gta02]: wm8753 - neo1973gta02 Dec 29 20:57:14 neo173gta02 (WM8753) Dec 29 20:57:23 ok Dec 29 20:57:35 do you use an .asoundrc Dec 29 20:58:15 no, there is no asoundrc file Dec 29 20:58:25 nor asound.conf Dec 29 20:58:33 ah no asound.conf Dec 29 20:58:40 let me look if I've one on om-gta02 Dec 29 20:59:41 no I've no asound.confd Dec 29 20:59:46 *asound.conf Dec 29 20:59:52 so what did you want to achieve Dec 29 20:59:56 ? Dec 29 21:00:00 use aplay Dec 29 21:00:03 and it didn't work? Dec 29 21:00:15 I m trying to know the input and output alsa device Dec 29 21:00:21 for playback and recording Dec 29 21:00:25 why not use the default card Dec 29 21:00:26 ? Dec 29 21:00:35 tried , alsa:default Dec 29 21:00:39 yes that Dec 29 21:00:41 alsa:hw:0,0 Dec 29 21:00:51 but nothing seems working Dec 29 21:01:10 # mplayer -ao alsa:device=default /usr/share/sounds/notify_message.wav Dec 29 21:01:23 neither aplay -l nor arecord -l shows any devices Dec 29 21:01:37 mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=0.0 /usr/share/sounds/notify_message.wav Dec 29 21:01:44 both work Dec 29 21:01:47 (mplayer) Dec 29 21:02:00 I'll try aplay and arecord Dec 29 21:02:29 let me check Dec 29 21:02:53 aplay -D default:CARD=neo1973gta02 /usr/share/sounds/notify_message.wav Dec 29 21:02:55 works too Dec 29 21:03:12 aplay -D default /usr/share/sounds/notify_message.wav Dec 29 21:03:14 works too Dec 29 21:03:44 btw is it safe to upgrade om-gta02? Dec 29 21:03:54 (opkg update;opkg upgrade) Dec 29 21:03:56 under shr-u Dec 29 21:04:31 aplay -D default /usr/share/sounds/notify_message.wav not working here Dec 29 21:05:21 same error Dec 29 21:05:37 ALSA lib control.c:909 (snd_ctl_open_noupdate_ Invalid CTL hw:0 Dec 29 21:05:38 aplay: device list:224 control open (0):No such file or directory Dec 29 21:05:57 strace it to get what file it opens Dec 29 21:06:34 strace ? never used :( Dec 29 21:06:34 /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf Dec 29 21:07:01 strace aplay -D default /usr/share/sounds/notify_message.wav Dec 29 21:07:09 if strace is not installed install it Dec 29 21:07:32 yes its installed Dec 29 21:09:22 try reinstalling alsa-conf-base Dec 29 21:09:35 long output Dec 29 21:09:50 strace aplay -D default /usr/share/sounds/notify_message.wav 2>&1 | grep open Dec 29 21:09:54 can shorten the output Dec 29 21:10:10 ruuing /usr/bin/aplay Dec 29 21:10:15 with Dec 29 21:10:20 aplay -D default Dec 29 21:10:58 accessing /etc/ld.so.preload Dec 29 21:11:20 open /lib/librt.so. Dec 29 21:11:24 ok ok Dec 29 21:11:28 use a pastebin Dec 29 21:11:33 and pastebin the output of Dec 29 21:11:39 strace aplay -D default /usr/share/sounds/notify_message.wav 2>&1 | grep open Dec 29 21:11:51 opened /lib/libsound.so.2 Dec 29 21:13:30 not on linux machine now :( Dec 29 21:14:03 doing it directly on free runner :( Dec 29 21:14:06 can you paste the content of what you see ? Dec 29 21:14:09 ok Dec 29 21:14:18 hmmm Dec 29 21:14:26 will be able to paste and send it tomorrow :( Dec 29 21:14:31 pasting from console is somewhat problematic Dec 29 21:14:39 do you have a text editor on your freerunner Dec 29 21:14:44 because you could do that: Dec 29 21:14:54 hmmm Dec 29 21:14:58 let me see Dec 29 21:15:18 strace aplay -D default /usr/share/sounds/notify_message.wav 2>&1 | grep open > opened.txt Dec 29 21:15:26 be sure that opened.txt doesn't exist Dec 29 21:15:27 can do this Dec 29 21:15:30 before doing that Dec 29 21:15:34 but how to send it :( Dec 29 21:15:37 then open the file with a text editor Dec 29 21:15:43 copy-paste to a pastebin Dec 29 21:15:52 try a graphical text editor Dec 29 21:16:27 else we could try something blindly Dec 29 21:16:45 let me give it a try , but i m not sure whether internet browser will work fine or not on free runner Dec 29 21:17:11 opkg update;opkg upgrade;opkg install --force-reinstall alsa-conf-base Dec 29 21:17:47 maybe do "opkg install --force-reinstall alsa-conf-base" separately Dec 29 21:17:48 GNUtoo|laptop: glib builds fine with patches from the ML Dec 29 21:17:54 morphis_, ok nice Dec 29 21:18:01 are they in oe now? Dec 29 21:18:55 emacs-x11 is a graphical editor and is in shr-u Dec 29 21:18:58 nothing opened :( Dec 29 21:19:11 strace aplay -D default /usr/share/sounds/notify_message.wav 2>&1 | grep open > opened.txt Dec 29 21:19:18 GNUtoo|laptop: no, they are not in OE Dec 29 21:19:21 nothing is opend.txt Dec 29 21:19:25 morphis_, ok I'll wait then Dec 29 21:19:29 GNUtoo|laptop: they are not very old :) Dec 29 21:19:37 morphis_, ah ok Dec 29 21:19:47 s/ah ok/ Dec 29 21:19:54 that's why I can wait Dec 29 21:20:17 EsEhAr, then install emacs-x11 Dec 29 21:20:49 I'll try reinstalling alsa-conf-base Dec 29 21:20:54 thanks alot Dec 29 21:21:22 else there is this command: Dec 29 21:21:34 strace -o full_trace.txt aplay -D default /usr/share/sounds/notify_message.wav Dec 29 21:21:58 right Dec 29 21:22:06 that creates a huge file Dec 29 21:22:09 I should tell you one thing Dec 29 21:22:23 i have installed kernel-module-snd-pcm-oss Dec 29 21:22:28 ahhh lol Dec 29 21:22:35 can this be a problem with alsa ? Dec 29 21:22:42 I don't know, try Dec 29 21:22:44 rmmod it Dec 29 21:22:57 its not loaded though Dec 29 21:23:09 ah so not the cause Dec 29 21:23:20 do u have list of devices with aplay -l ? Dec 29 21:23:30 or arecord -l ? Dec 29 21:23:36 yes Dec 29 21:24:04 I'll PM you for the paste Dec 29 21:24:22 as you don't have a fast-enough browser....it will be hard for you to see a pastebin Dec 29 21:24:23 I m using IRC first time :) Dec 29 21:24:34 used in my childhood :) Dec 29 21:24:39 ok Dec 29 21:26:07 so, you want to reinstall Dec 29 21:26:20 what do you have your installation on? Dec 29 21:26:23 what version u r using ? shr -unstable Dec 29 21:26:24 microsd or flash? Dec 29 21:26:34 internal nand :) Dec 29 21:26:38 yes, I can't use shr-testing Dec 29 21:26:56 because I use openembedded and sometimes I want to try stuff Dec 29 21:27:01 and I don't want to backport Dec 29 21:27:05 anyway Dec 29 21:27:06 i m also using shr-unstable Dec 29 21:27:13 you could try a tarball on microsd Dec 29 21:27:18 just to see if it works Dec 29 21:27:27 before re-installing to NAND Dec 29 21:27:36 hmm Dec 29 21:27:38 yes Dec 29 21:27:43 you know how to install on microsd? Dec 29 21:27:53 no , not yet Dec 29 21:28:11 you've only your phone with you right? Dec 29 21:28:16 do you have a blank microsd? Dec 29 21:28:28 yes I do have but not now :( Dec 29 21:28:33 ok Dec 29 21:28:43 I installed latest version of shr-unstable Dec 29 21:28:46 then you could look on the wiki before doing it or come here Dec 29 21:28:48 ok Dec 29 21:28:53 but facing one problem withit Dec 29 21:29:00 yes the sound Dec 29 21:29:12 no , another :( Dec 29 21:29:14 ah? Dec 29 21:29:30 drop down close button not appearing to close the application :( Dec 29 21:29:39 ah that's easy Dec 29 21:29:47 for that you need to restart Xorg Dec 29 21:29:50 how :-O Dec 29 21:29:59 graphically go in shr-settings Dec 29 21:30:05 yes Dec 29 21:30:24 then go in appearence Dec 29 21:30:30 and Dec 29 21:30:42 change engine to x11-16 and then back to x11 Dec 29 21:30:50 a Restart X server will appear Dec 29 21:31:19 that will make IRC quit Dec 29 21:31:24 you will have to reconnect Dec 29 21:31:35 ouch Dec 29 21:31:37 wait a sec Dec 29 21:32:05 i have only one option in engine Dec 29 21:32:24 enable composite with check box Dec 29 21:32:59 EsEhAr: not Illume settings, but SHR Settings Dec 29 21:33:19 i go from settings->advance->engine Dec 29 21:33:23 wrong ? Dec 29 21:33:32 dos1, it segfaulted when restarting X Dec 29 21:33:39 and wiped .e Dec 29 21:33:44 or something like that Dec 29 21:33:45 ok' Dec 29 21:33:49 icons are too small Dec 29 21:33:53 got it :) Dec 29 21:34:02 EsEhAr, what image version do you run? Dec 29 21:34:31 its latest shr-unstable (I sort by date :) ) Dec 29 21:34:36 ok Dec 29 21:34:41 lastest is lastest from today? Dec 29 21:34:45 or from yesterday? Dec 29 21:34:48 or from before? Dec 29 21:34:49 ok i restarted X server Dec 29 21:34:54 before Dec 29 21:35:08 now its showing enlignment error Dec 29 21:35:10 which version? Dec 29 21:35:19 reboot your freerunner then Dec 29 21:35:20 show i recover or exit ? Dec 29 21:35:32 now Dec 29 21:35:37 *now Dec 29 21:35:43 press on the power button for a long time Dec 29 21:35:45 and restart it Dec 29 21:36:08 ok Dec 29 21:36:17 I'm sorry for not beeing fast enough for warning you of the segfault issue Dec 29 21:37:08 its ok , i m grateful Dec 29 21:37:18 i have installed from here: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ Dec 29 21:37:27 and using full-om Dec 29 21:37:38 ok Dec 29 21:37:43 you don't remember the date? Dec 29 21:37:56 18 december Dec 29 21:37:58 ok Dec 29 21:38:00 nice Dec 29 21:38:02 thanks a lot Dec 29 21:38:14 do you want me to try the 18 december image? Dec 29 21:38:41 full-om-gta02.jffs2 Dec 29 21:38:45 I m using it Dec 29 21:38:52 which one u r using ? Dec 29 21:38:59 a very old one Dec 29 21:39:04 upgraded trough opkg Dec 29 21:39:15 let me look Dec 29 21:39:19 ok Dec 29 21:39:56 shr-settings->other says Dec 29 21:40:06 SHR: 20101204 Dec 29 21:41:01 my neo rebooting :) Dec 29 21:41:05 ok Dec 29 21:41:26 where did u get that image ? Dec 29 21:41:44 I don't remember but I think at the same place than you, but long time ago Dec 29 21:42:05 hmm Dec 29 21:42:14 I also build images myself from some of my devices Dec 29 21:42:31 so now I should revert engine to x11 again? Dec 29 21:42:56 mickeyl, ping Dec 29 21:49:36 so I am off Dec 29 21:49:37 gn8 Dec 29 22:25:32 hi. I'm playing with a freerunner in a robotics environment and I need to get a usb joystick working. Dec 29 22:25:47 ok Dec 29 22:25:47 I connected it alright and it is enumerating fine. Dec 29 22:26:10 you may need to install the correct modules and/or to recompile the kernel Dec 29 22:26:24 I loaded the joydev module and I've got 2 /dev/input/js* devices. Dec 29 22:26:30 ok Dec 29 22:26:33 so it seem working Dec 29 22:26:49 but there is no good data there... do I need to do something else?... Dec 29 22:26:58 mokodrone: no good data? Dec 29 22:26:59 like binding the module, or something? Dec 29 22:27:27 evtest doesn't return anything? Dec 29 22:27:55 using hexdump I see no relation between the joystick and the data. this is very evident in a laptop... Dec 29 22:28:14 havent tried evtest, will do that. Dec 29 22:28:59 hm... is evtest available in opkg shr repo? Dec 29 22:31:14 I think so Dec 29 22:31:34 ok, I see it. but I have to unplug the js and get usb ether working again to install it... I'll do it later. Dec 29 22:31:43 ok Dec 29 22:31:46 or use wifi Dec 29 22:32:04 for opkg install Dec 29 22:32:11 yep, but wifi is another enchillada for later. :) Dec 29 22:32:43 right now I'd like to know what is missing in my setup to have the js working. Dec 29 22:33:19 dmesg shows these lines: Dec 29 22:33:22 3089.040000] usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using s3c2410-ohci and address 9 Dec 29 22:33:22 [ 3089.210000] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=07b5, idProduct=0316 Dec 29 22:33:23 [ 3089.210000] usb 1-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 Dec 29 22:33:23 [ 3089.210000] usb 1-2: Product: USB Game Controllers Dec 29 22:33:23 [ 3089.210000] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Mega World Dec 29 22:34:21 evtest the right node when you will have installed evtest Dec 29 22:34:23 wifi is easy Dec 29 22:34:28 just launch iliwi Dec 29 22:35:53 ok, thanks. gotta go now.... :) Dec 29 22:36:00 ok bye Dec 29 23:15:13 ~nf Dec 29 23:15:14 The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at ~NF2. For help see ~NF-help) - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~RL - - - NEWSFLASH [2010-10-07] wiki is down, see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-October/063395.html Dec 30 00:54:45 hello again. I've tried evtest to see if the usb joystick was alive on the gta02, but is sure isn't. Dec 30 00:55:45 question: with no joysticks plugged in, i modprobe joydev and immediately 2 /dev/input/js* apear; what do they correspond to? Dec 30 00:58:14 another question: how do the devices get created? i thought there was no hotplug on SHR... Dec 30 01:00:55 anyone here can tip me as to which sw package creates device nodes on the fly in the SHR distro? Dec 30 01:02:13 i can't find any udev rules anywhere.... Dec 30 01:02:58 well, it's a very lively room, i see. :) Dec 30 01:04:28 am i off-topic or something?... Dec 30 01:08:02 i guess every one is sleeping. c ya. Dec 30 01:11:50 i suspect they are created by udev Dec 30 01:12:04 but I run debian on my phone Dec 30 01:12:11 where did you look for udev rules ? Dec 30 01:18:34 hi. i grepped and used find under /etc. is there any where else? Dec 30 01:19:37 in /lib/udev/, i guess Dec 30 01:21:13 mokodrone: these are accelerometers Dec 30 01:21:37 oh, i see... that explains why they don't shut up. :) Dec 30 01:21:52 mokodrone: and kernel creates device nodes Dec 30 01:22:01 mokodrone: devtmpfs handles is Dec 30 01:22:26 mokodrone: not very lively here, probable because it's too late :) Dec 30 01:23:12 ok, so this confirms my problem: the joydev module can't see my usb joystick, although it is enumerated correctly. so i need to find the udev rules and make sure my device will get recognized properly, right? Dec 30 01:23:38 late?... i thought this was a hacker hangout... ;) Dec 30 01:24:06 mokodrone: i dont know how SHR, but in QtMoko it's possible to installal udev package Dec 30 01:24:24 mokodrone: and then udev will handle creating device nodes Dec 30 01:25:18 ok, thanks. i chose shr because i needed a soft-realtime system for robotics, and so shr is easy to remove X and all the phone apps i don't need. Dec 30 01:25:18 mokodrone: but only with devtmpfs they are created automatically, no rules in userspace are taken in account Dec 30 01:26:17 mokodrone, there's few people reading/answering here because most people are sleeping right now. Dec 30 01:26:38 I'm going to sleep too, as it's late here (2:26 am) Dec 30 01:26:49 nite nite. :) Dec 30 01:26:54 * misc is not sleeping but watching 27c3 videos Dec 30 01:27:06 ( on the other hand, i am awake, but not useful :/ ) Dec 30 01:29:33 cool, i found some usb-bluetooth rules under /lib/udev/... thanks for the tip. Dec 30 01:31:13 how do i know if a system uses devtmpfs? Dec 30 01:31:34 nevermind.... (mount) Dec 30 01:31:43 recent SHR does it for sure Dec 30 01:31:58 also search for package udev Dec 30 01:33:32 yes it does. is it fully automatic? i guess the only configuring takes place in udev, then?.... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Dec 30 02:59:58 2010