**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 28 02:59:56 2011 Jan 28 06:23:04 moin Jan 28 06:39:00 moin Jan 28 07:31:26 alexxy: what timezone do you have? JAM? in package.mask :) Alexey Shvetsov (26 Jam 2011) Jan 28 08:57:00 looks like http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/56332 #1105 fix, but normal SHR builds doesn't have efreet-icon-cache enabled.. Jan 28 08:57:30 pity that we just bumped to r56329 only Jan 28 09:13:37 JaMa: reading rasters 1.0 warning we definitely don't want to stay on svn trunk anyway :P Jan 28 09:15:11 * mrmoku off for an appointment with the elder ones german teacher Jan 28 09:16:37 mrmoku, why not stay on trunk? Jan 28 09:18:05 r56329 almost in feed Jan 28 09:19:52 TAsn: sounds like it might be a bumpy ride that could happen in trunk Jan 28 09:20:20 TAsn: and we actually have enough problems in other sectors... no need for that ;) Jan 28 09:21:12 then... if it turns out that trunk will have demanded features we want and is usable enough we can always switch back to it Jan 28 10:14:36 hi, libfsobasics fails Jan 28 10:15:25 http://pastebin.com/2zChVhbc Jan 28 10:33:02 looks like someone committed before trying to compile Jan 28 10:33:18 let me check whether i can fix that quickly Jan 28 10:33:30 ok thanks a lot Jan 28 10:40:19 wah, looks like someone used a chainsaw Jan 28 10:40:30 playaaaaa, what did you do Jan 28 10:41:02 lol Jan 28 10:41:44 note that I'm not in a hurry Jan 28 10:44:14 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * red444909f567 10/libfsobasics/fsobasics/process.vala: Jan 28 10:44:14 freesmartphone.org: libfsobasics: process: repair damage done by either a chainsaw, a mutant sed command, or hardware problems... Jan 28 10:44:14 freesmartphone.org: NOTE: I just fixed the syntax errors... Jan 28 10:46:36 thanks Jan 28 10:47:07 GNUtoo|laptop hi Jan 28 10:47:12 hi Jan 28 10:47:24 GNUtoo|laptop how are you today ? Jan 28 10:47:34 fine Jan 28 10:48:15 i make what you told me yastrday Jan 28 10:48:37 i stell have proplem in boot :( Jan 28 10:48:47 not booting yet Jan 28 10:49:13 hmmm Jan 28 10:49:18 can you tell me if you can how to booting from u-boot ? Jan 28 10:49:36 yes, give me a minute Jan 28 10:49:52 ok take your time Jan 28 10:50:37 do you have more details on the boot failure? Jan 28 10:51:19 i used multiboot and but kernal you give me Jan 28 10:51:32 ah that can't work Jan 28 10:51:33 in /boot/multiboot/ Jan 28 10:52:02 is multiboot capable of booting multiple distro or multiples kenrels Jan 28 10:52:03 ? Jan 28 10:52:51 booting multiple distro Jan 28 10:53:09 what to do is to boot the kernel trough flasher Jan 28 10:53:18 there is an option not to flash the kernel Jan 28 10:53:22 but to boot only Jan 28 10:53:38 aha Jan 28 10:53:50 did you have this comand ? Jan 28 10:53:59 to but in flasher Jan 28 10:54:06 I don't use flasher, so I don't know Jan 28 10:54:08 I could look Jan 28 10:54:32 aha so what did you used ? Jan 28 10:55:00 tell me how to boot your shr Jan 28 10:55:05 if you can pls Jan 28 10:55:35 use the -l option Jan 28 10:55:36 in flasher Jan 28 10:55:44 http://wiki.maemo.org/Flasher has the arguments Jan 28 11:01:42 aha i used this comand in flasher Jan 28 11:01:55 bbl Jan 28 11:02:46 flasher-3.5-3.5 zImage-2.6.28.10-a --loud Jan 28 11:03:03 but stell not boot Jan 28 11:03:14 bbl = I'll be back later Jan 28 11:03:21 and what is --loud Jan 28 11:03:24 ok Jan 28 11:03:35 it's --load Jan 28 11:03:43 and the zImage name is longer Jan 28 11:03:44 yes Jan 28 11:04:31 yes i rename Jan 28 11:05:22 maybe try Jan 28 11:05:28 flasher -l zImage-... Jan 28 11:06:06 same nothing Jan 28 11:06:15 could you give more infos Jan 28 11:07:07 when i but the coman just open new black screen and closed agen Jan 28 11:07:19 and my n900 not reboot Jan 28 11:08:26 when flashing other os must reboot n900 and start new os Jan 28 11:08:39 so you could try to flash Jan 28 11:08:47 yes Jan 28 11:09:40 maby the zImage is broken Jan 28 11:09:53 I'll try it later then Jan 28 11:10:12 aha ok Jan 28 11:11:18 what about " add more booting methods " Jan 28 11:11:26 here http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Hardware/N900/Installation Jan 28 11:11:39 for u-boot Jan 28 11:15:33 Good day all , Jan 28 11:15:45 are these info right for ssl in freenode ? Jan 28 11:15:45 http://pastebin.com/YvbvtZ2y Jan 28 11:15:54 sorry Jan 28 11:16:39 sound does not work for pidgin in SHR , ESD,ALSA both don't work for pidgin sound how to solve it ? Jan 28 11:23:47 any opinion ? Jan 28 11:24:05 Osama: read http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/N900Install about u-dev Jan 28 11:24:09 Osama: u-boot :) Jan 28 11:24:45 JaMa aha thanks i well see Jan 28 11:27:54 JaMa this comand well but on shr or maemo termnal ? Jan 28 11:28:01 or flasher ? Jan 28 11:30:36 Osama: which command? those wget and python are for your desktop usually Jan 28 11:30:56 Osama: that's how you prepare combined.bin which is later flashed to device with flasher Jan 28 11:31:58 JaMa: aha now it is clear i well try Jan 28 12:33:26 mrmoku, just don't update efl for a while (while = week or two) Jan 28 12:33:29 nothing more than that :) Jan 28 12:33:48 it's bad to become a Jan 28 12:34:01 stable release user coward :) Jan 28 12:38:37 TAsn, as always I forgot telling you to look at phoneui+sms-report on thursday :P Jan 28 12:51:09 * mrmoku wonders if it actually makes sense to remind TAsn of something on thursdays... his free day is friday and chances are high he will have forgotten till then anyway ;) Jan 28 13:06:17 pespin, haha. :) Jan 28 13:06:46 pespin, now I feel bad, because honestly, I have a problem doing it today/tomorrow/next weekend, this is the exam period. ;( Jan 28 13:07:00 pespin, as I told you from day one, your best bet is to ask mrmoku :) Jan 28 13:07:09 mrmoku, forgetting: probably :) Jan 28 13:08:39 TAsn, pespin: what do we talk about anyway? Jan 28 13:08:43 TAsn, nah no rush, good look with your exams :) Jan 28 13:09:22 pespin, thanks. rush: I already feel bad enough because I/you forgot about it when I had time and now that you remember I don't :( Jan 28 13:09:37 mrmoku, honestly, I don't remember :) Jan 28 13:09:48 mrmoku, adding sms status report into phonefsod/phoneui using some config option in config file. Jan 28 13:10:07 I could then add a toggle UI in shr-settings to activate/deactivate it. Jan 28 13:10:36 mrmoku, as we are using unstable stuff and sms tends to fail sometimes, it would be great having this feature. Jan 28 13:10:39 sounds like it :) Jan 28 13:11:02 so at least I know a sms has indeed arrived to its destinatary. Jan 28 13:13:00 TAsn: ahh, does that involve opimd python code? Jan 28 13:13:29 * mrmoku refuses to spoil gvim with python code ;) Jan 28 13:14:22 probably not IIRC Jan 28 13:17:29 mrmoku, nope. Jan 28 13:17:36 mrmoku, no, it's only adding a dictionary pair to a dbus message when yo usend the sms to fso Jan 28 13:17:47 yep. Jan 28 13:17:50 depending on a config Jan 28 13:17:57 this was removed for some reason Jan 28 13:18:00 pespin that is the requesting part Jan 28 13:18:03 we used to have it Jan 28 13:18:14 mrmoku, accepting: I think we already support that. Jan 28 13:18:22 what if confirmation arrives? Jan 28 13:18:29 hmm Jan 28 13:18:37 in which way? Jan 28 13:18:48 in opimd/fsogsmd? Jan 28 13:19:36 * mrmoku does not even know how such a thing looks like :P Jan 28 13:19:44 mrmoku, in StoreMessage dbus method -> add {"status-report-request": True} Jan 28 13:20:11 mrmoku, it arrives as new message sent from your gsm company Jan 28 13:20:26 it's a confirmation message telling you that you sms has arrived well Jan 28 13:20:28 then it should be easy Jan 28 13:20:41 yeah, that's what I'm asking for its inclusion since some time :P Jan 28 13:20:43 * mrmoku will take a look later Jan 28 13:20:47 thanks :) Jan 28 13:21:18 yw Jan 28 13:21:42 mrmoku, you may want to have a look at python lindi script to send sms, which is using it -> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/328287/ Jan 28 13:23:35 pespin: hm, i'm not sure it arrives exactly as a new message sent by gsm company. I seem to remember it was decoded by fsogsmd directly. Jan 28 13:26:38 PaulFertser, uhm no idea, it was just the impresion I had when using my nokia n70 :P Jan 28 13:26:40 pespin: one gets a signal from fsogsmd, that's all. Jan 28 13:27:00 pespin: that was using another mechanism, the gsm operator did everything needed on his side non-standard way. Jan 28 13:27:16 pespin: i mean i used to know something about this topic ;) http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/340 Jan 28 13:31:47 hmm ok Jan 28 13:32:02 ahh. IncomingMessageReport signal Jan 28 13:32:07 mrmoku: yes. But. Jan 28 13:32:24 mrmoku: someone said some operators bill for that and so it shouldn't be set unconditionally. Jan 28 13:32:57 PaulFertser: yep, it was mickey|office back then when I started to implement it Jan 28 13:33:08 will do a checkbox when sending probably Jan 28 13:33:33 mrmoku, you can just add option in config file and we can add a toggle to change config gile in shr-settings too Jan 28 13:33:51 and set it to false by default Jan 28 13:33:58 pespin: isn't that something one might want to set speciffically for one important message? Jan 28 13:34:14 mrmoku, no if it's free :P Jan 28 13:34:15 we could do the config thing anyway to default to on or off Jan 28 13:34:19 and I think it is for me Jan 28 13:34:37 :P Jan 28 13:34:40 next bill will tell ;) Jan 28 13:34:46 mrmoku, yeah hehe Jan 28 13:54:05 mickey|office, do you think it's necessary to support multiple watchers by using signal for the AsyncProcess class? Jan 28 14:04:50 oh. it was sed Jan 28 14:05:19 i have a vim setup for vala atm :/ Jan 28 14:38:07 HeinervdmWork: ping Jan 28 14:48:09 morphis: pong Jan 28 14:48:40 HeinervdmWork: do you tried the fsodeviced bluetooth power control plugin already? Jan 28 14:48:57 morphis: not yes Jan 28 14:49:00 yet Jan 28 14:49:08 ok Jan 28 14:50:35 but there are the iocls missing Jan 28 14:51:25 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r2343887ecef2 10/fsodeviced/conf/palm_pre/fsodeviced.conf: fsodeviced: palmpre conf: change firmware name to the correct one provided by OE Jan 28 14:51:30 which one? Jan 28 14:51:48 to set speed and flags Jan 28 14:52:03 the hsuartones Jan 28 14:52:52 no Jan 28 14:52:59 look at the HsuartTransport class Jan 28 14:53:13 it already call this ioctls Jan 28 14:53:19 s/call/calls/ Jan 28 14:53:20 morphis meant: it already calls this ioctls Jan 28 14:53:29 ah, but i couldn't find thatclass Jan 28 14:53:54 it's in libfsotransport Jan 28 14:53:54 libfsotransport Jan 28 14:53:57 :) Jan 28 14:54:11 ok Jan 28 14:54:12 the only ioctl which is missing is the last one Jan 28 14:54:20 but don't know if we really need it Jan 28 14:54:29 HCIUARTSETPROTO is in our kernel Jan 28 14:54:38 HCIUARTSETFLAGS is missing Jan 28 14:54:56 ok Jan 28 14:55:03 and the last one is HCIUARTSETFLAGS? Jan 28 14:55:13 with 0x80 as value? Jan 28 14:55:33 i think it's protp Jan 28 14:55:47 ok Jan 28 14:55:54 than we should call it too Jan 28 14:57:02 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=drivers/bluetooth/hci_uart.h;h=50113db06b9f54144e455193279deec4900028cc;hb=refs/heads/palmpre/master#l31 Jan 28 14:57:56 hmm Jan 28 14:58:02 that's sth differen Jan 28 14:58:20 it's 'h', 0x09 Jan 28 14:59:24 morphis: include/linux/hsuart.h:#define HSUART_IOCTL_SET_RXLAT _IOW('h', 0x09, int) Jan 28 14:59:32 hm Jan 28 14:59:56 hm, maybe we should add some printk statements to the kernel to find out Jan 28 15:00:08 or try with some simple test tool Jan 28 15:00:29 TAsn: ping Jan 28 15:00:55 hm it seems like we have to switch back to udev for palmpre Jan 28 15:01:05 and a kernel without all the devtmpfs patches Jan 28 15:02:21 HeinervdmWork: btw. touchscreen is now really nice Jan 28 15:03:45 it could be nicer but for that we would need too much processing power Jan 28 15:04:23 really? Jan 28 15:05:29 yes, with a gausian fit Jan 28 15:07:54 do you already tried it? Jan 28 15:08:05 would be interesting how much it takes really Jan 28 15:08:20 TAsn: nvm... have to go :P Jan 28 15:08:30 maybe we could do it outside tslib to habe some better control over system resources Jan 28 15:08:41 or use some assembler optimizations Jan 28 15:09:52 and it would be nice to have multitouch support Jan 28 15:10:16 morphis: not yet, have to go now Jan 28 16:01:27 PaulFertser: can you tell me what web-cam is better for linux? Jan 28 16:07:07 Q-Master: better than what? Jan 28 16:09:30 just better one Jan 28 16:10:24 Q-Master: are you trying to buy one that works with FR? Jan 28 16:10:48 hi morphis Jan 28 16:10:59 GNUtoo|laptop: heyho Jan 28 16:11:06 is the pre capable of doing VOIP if someone(maybe me) fixes wifi? Jan 28 16:11:20 lindi-: not exactly, but also I wan to use it with fr Jan 28 16:11:31 Palm brings VOIP with their new webOS version Jan 28 16:11:38 so why not :) Jan 28 16:12:16 because I'm looking forward to write a framebuffer application that depends on FSO which does VOIP only Jan 28 16:12:16 btw. I switched back to udev today for the palmpre as our kernel with devtmpfs patches seems to be quite unstable Jan 28 16:12:19 for instance Jan 28 16:12:24 oh cool Jan 28 16:12:28 but why framebuffer? Jan 28 16:12:29 a small application with one call button Jan 28 16:12:44 to reduce chances of breakeages Jan 28 16:12:47 ok Jan 28 16:12:57 I've this idea Jan 28 16:13:07 I don't know if the time I have will permit it to be realized Jan 28 16:13:15 but it would be cool Jan 28 16:13:31 the purpose would be to have encrypted calls Jan 28 16:14:22 wifi<->openvpn<->pre Jan 28 16:14:33 Q-Master: FR does not do usb 2.0 Jan 28 16:14:41 sounds interesting Jan 28 16:14:42 as they cost 50E, I wondered if that could be done with some pre Jan 28 16:14:47 instead of htc dream Jan 28 16:14:48 Q-Master: so pretty much every webcam is not going to work Jan 28 16:15:03 first I develop the app Jan 28 16:15:08 then I buy the other pre Jan 28 16:15:33 :) Jan 28 16:15:37 maybe I should try the sflphone on htcdream Jan 28 16:15:38 should be possbile Jan 28 16:15:50 yes Jan 28 16:15:55 I think we should limit the bandwidth of the wifi interface on the palmpre Jan 28 16:15:58 on htc dream alsa is the blocker for that Jan 28 16:16:06 to see if the stability issues are gone Jan 28 16:16:09 ah Jan 28 16:16:10 ok Jan 28 16:16:19 the most important component :) Jan 28 16:16:26 basically with linphone at 8000 Hz....sound is so bad Jan 28 16:16:44 you know how to limit a network interface's bandwidth? Jan 28 16:16:46 :) Jan 28 16:16:52 not yet Jan 28 16:17:01 but once I get a pre I can look into it Jan 28 16:17:08 that is to say Jan 28 16:17:11 after fosdem Jan 28 16:17:21 because sending it before would be a problem Jan 28 16:17:31 if it arrives when I'm at fosdem? Jan 28 16:17:37 ok Jan 28 16:18:14 mrmoku, mickey|bbl, do you have a test app or a shell script for slfphone? Jan 28 16:18:29 multitouch? so Palm uses capacitive touchscreen? Jan 28 16:18:33 because there are many interfaces Jan 28 16:18:53 antrik, hmmm, someone must look into it to make it work Jan 28 16:19:07 multitouch was integrated in xorg Jan 28 16:19:17 so if we look how to standardize it Jan 28 16:19:21 it should be possible Jan 28 16:19:26 and on htc dream too Jan 28 16:19:31 the driver is multitouch aware Jan 28 16:19:38 I just disabled it Jan 28 16:19:56 multitouch is not yet in xorg... though it seems to be nearing completion lately Jan 28 16:20:07 ah ok Jan 28 16:20:19 I thought there were some xf86-input multitouch driver out there Jan 28 16:20:19 anyways, my point is a totally different one... Jan 28 16:20:21 antrik: jepp Jan 28 16:20:22 with xorg support Jan 28 16:20:41 (I saw it on xorg mailing list when I was following it some time ago) Jan 28 16:21:02 capacitive touchscreens have completely different UI requirements than the resistive ones used on FR and N900... so this is a problem for SHR Jan 28 16:21:19 antrik, on htc dream you have a trackball Jan 28 16:21:23 also Jan 28 16:21:29 enlightenment can be adapted Jan 28 16:21:32 just export some variables Jan 28 16:21:39 like the finger size Jan 28 16:21:45 and the GUI adapts itself Jan 28 16:21:55 or at least it should Jan 28 16:22:15 hm... don't know about an extra xf86 multitouch input driver... might have been something experimental. the final thing will use normal evdev driver I think Jan 28 16:22:50 GNUtoo|laptop: it's not just finger size Jan 28 16:23:09 yes I know Jan 28 16:23:10 you must detect different fingers Jan 28 16:23:15 but with the palm pre we can do that Jan 28 16:23:21 capacitive touchscreens just have completely different properties regarding what is easy to use and what is not Jan 28 16:23:22 we have the raw data from the touchscreen Jan 28 16:23:23 capacitive touchscreens have completely different UI requirements than the resistive ones used on FR and N900... so this is a problem for SHR Jan 28 16:23:27 I was talking about that Jan 28 16:23:32 about the lack of precision Jan 28 16:23:36 Q-Master: hey Jan 28 16:23:40 not about multitouch Jan 28 16:24:37 take for example the unlock slider in SHR... IMHO it is a very bad idea on FR and N900 -- this just doesn't work well on a resistive touchscreen, while it's probably a nice thing on capacitive ones... Jan 28 16:24:48 The worse case scenario device would be the iphone3g Jan 28 16:24:59 it has no trackball and no keyboard Jan 28 16:25:07 Q-Master: there still are some cameras that aren't supported at all, so you better check usb vid/pid beforehand. Other than that, i do not know about any special features or something important to consider. Jan 28 16:25:08 and is somewhat supported by SHR Jan 28 16:25:43 I've a nexus one which is very bad too, no hardware keyboard and capacitive touchscreen Jan 28 16:28:33 Q-Master, also I've a very bad one, with jpeg error but tripod support Jan 28 16:28:43 it's a gspca one Jan 28 16:36:12 JaMa|Off: you might want to look at this: http://git.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=07530194621001e9fbea33e3a094beceef606e48 Jan 28 16:45:14 mrmoku, hi Jan 28 16:45:25 hi Jan 28 16:45:30 anyone can help me Jan 28 16:46:18 morphis: I've noticed, thx Jan 28 16:46:43 JaMa|Off: ok Jan 28 16:49:05 cowok_cakep, if you don't tell us your problem I'm sure we won't be able to help you ;) Jan 28 16:49:13 yes thanx Jan 28 16:49:20 my shr, is to slow... Jan 28 16:49:32 can any one tell me whats going on with my FR Jan 28 16:49:36 morphis: why did you left devtmpfs? just curious and really off (will read later from home) Jan 28 16:50:11 cowok_cakep, it's simple afaik. FR is slow (because of glamo chip) so shr running in fr is slow :P Jan 28 16:51:10 so shr is not good for FR Jan 28 16:51:15 shr good on nokia ? Jan 28 16:51:21 or other then FR? Jan 28 16:51:24 JaMa|Off: the problem is I ported devtmpfs back to 2.6.24; it works but the changes to the core driver and kobject system made the kernel quite unstable and I don't have the time and motivation to debug the kernel to find the place where something is broken Jan 28 16:52:03 JaMa|Off: I got different critical errors like FBIOBLANK fails cause some display relevant clock should be disabled but was never enabled before Jan 28 16:52:15 and some more curious errors Jan 28 16:52:33 JaMa|Off: even the problems with e17 seems to come with the kernel problems Jan 28 16:52:45 JaMa|Off: and the kernel works with udev-compat141 just fine Jan 28 16:53:02 JaMa|Off: and thats what we currently need, there are other things to do than debugging devtmpfs Jan 28 16:57:28 GNUtoo|laptop: I have a problem with xserver-nodm and fsodeviced Jan 28 16:57:45 GNUtoo|laptop: maybe you can help me Jan 28 16:57:54 morphis, yes give me a minute Jan 28 16:58:01 or tell me how to do it the best way Jan 28 16:58:40 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r8cadb7271343 10/fsodeviced/conf/palm_pre/fsodeviced.conf: Jan 28 16:58:41 freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: palmpre conf: remove firmware loader as we have now udev for this Jan 28 16:58:41 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch Jan 28 16:59:08 GNUtoo|laptop: ok, I will start to write, as I am leaving for some minutes too Jan 28 16:59:31 GNUtoo|laptop: xserver needs on the palmpre the /dev/input/event6 input node for touchscreen input Jan 28 16:59:46 xserver is started as 01 in runlevel 5 Jan 28 16:59:49 GNUtoo|laptop: hi, will be back after dinner to talk about sflphone :) Jan 28 16:59:56 fsodeviced as 27 Jan 28 17:00:05 mrmoku, ok Jan 28 17:00:16 but fsodeviced starts tsmd which creates the dev/input/event6 node Jan 28 17:00:34 so the only way I currently see is, starting xserver after fsodeviced Jan 28 17:00:48 with update-rc.d xserver-xorg defaults 90 or so Jan 28 17:01:20 ok I'm here Jan 28 17:02:05 hmmm Jan 28 17:02:07 morphis, ask JaMa|Off Jan 28 17:02:19 I'm not sure I've the permission to re-order init scripts Jan 28 17:02:36 but I see no reason not to start fsodeviced before xserver-nodm Jan 28 17:28:53 GNUtoo|laptop: ok, so you have the same meaning Jan 28 17:28:58 will ask mrmoku or JaMa|Off Jan 28 17:29:29 will prepare a patch for i Jan 28 17:29:30 t Jan 28 17:29:39 ok Jan 28 17:29:41 good idea Jan 28 17:29:48 and send it to the ML Jan 28 17:35:13 hm why don't we have a /var/log/messages with all kernel messages in SHR? Jan 28 17:39:41 mrmoku, pong. Jan 28 18:05:27 TAsn: ping :) Jan 28 18:05:32 GNUtoo|laptop: back now Jan 28 18:05:48 ok Jan 28 18:06:02 morphis: reorder as it fits Jan 28 18:06:12 I think the order is quite arbitrary anyway Jan 28 18:06:17 never tweaked that Jan 28 18:06:36 and as fsodeviced some day will handle watchdogs... Jan 28 18:06:41 good to start it as soon as possible Jan 28 18:06:44 ok Jan 28 18:06:52 so I will send a patch to ML for this Jan 28 18:06:57 so you can ack on it Jan 28 18:07:01 morphis: you have commit access... Jan 28 18:07:04 no need for it Jan 28 18:07:15 just add my Acked-by if you want :) Jan 28 18:07:17 or not Jan 28 18:07:22 it's our recipe Jan 28 18:07:26 (initscripts-shr) Jan 28 18:07:26 ok :) Jan 28 18:07:49 GNUtoo|laptop: there are some scripts in sflphone source Jan 28 18:08:09 ok Jan 28 18:08:42 GNUtoo|laptop: tools/sflphone-callto Jan 28 18:08:57 and pysflphone Jan 28 18:08:58 ok Jan 28 18:09:00 I'll try Jan 28 18:09:30 ok, btw. the kernel had panic due to not finding the rootfs... did not have time to dig into it yet Jan 28 18:09:47 GNUtoo|laptop: and there is a new branch in the nokia kernel btw. Jan 28 18:09:51 the name is promissing Jan 28 18:09:58 the content less so (on first glance) Jan 28 18:10:23 can someone tell me what " VAR ?= 'some value' " means in OE recipes? Jan 28 18:10:29 what is the name? Jan 28 18:10:30 dvfs something? Jan 28 18:10:36 not that promissing :P Jan 28 18:10:37 pespin, assign if not already set Jan 28 18:10:41 sets VAR to some value if it hasn't been initialized yet? Jan 28 18:10:43 2.6.37-n900-next Jan 28 18:10:45 ok thanks. Jan 28 18:10:47 ok Jan 28 18:12:39 TAsn, pespin: can one of you two native python speakers tell me how to tell opimd that we want a receipt? Jan 28 18:13:33 mrmoku, I hate python. Jan 28 18:13:34