**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 02 02:59:58 2011 Feb 02 03:07:33 it reworks Feb 02 03:07:39 let's see if I can flash SHR now Feb 02 03:09:43 [ 37.065185] UBI: max. sequence number: 0 Feb 02 03:09:46 that seem wrong Feb 02 05:33:50 DocScrutinizer, hi Feb 02 06:48:42 mickey|bbl: pong Feb 02 06:48:47 GNUtoo|laptop: pong Feb 02 06:48:50 :) Feb 02 06:49:16 does anyone know what happened to morphis' palmpre/deploy folder? http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~morphis/oe/palmpre/deploy/images/palmpre/ ? or is there anyone around familiar with SHR on palm pre? Feb 02 06:49:55 maik: he's bisecting OE to find out where some error got introduced Feb 02 06:50:06 oh ok Feb 02 06:50:24 lot's of rebuilding from scratch :/ Feb 02 06:50:41 so that folder might just have disappeared until the next build finished Feb 02 06:51:34 ah, that's certainly a bummer, but good that he's doing that Feb 02 06:52:10 mickey|bbl: I have some problem with sflphone in libfso-glib... probably just me not knowing how to use it... Feb 02 06:52:19 ** (sflvoip:6169): CRITICAL **: file main.c: line 133: uncaught error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: GetAccountList (g-dbus-error-quark, 19) Feb 02 06:53:32 that Method is clearly there in the configuration manager interface Feb 02 06:53:47 so either I'm doing something wrong... or there is some problem with the specs Feb 02 06:54:01 * mrmoku taking a closer look at what got generated in libfso-glib... Feb 02 06:56:46 hmm Feb 02 06:56:49 sflphone_sf_lphone_configuration_manager_get_account_list Feb 02 06:56:53 looks strange Feb 02 06:58:54 h ((GDBusProxy *) self), "org.sflphone.SFLphone.ConfigurationManager", "GetAccountList"); Feb 02 06:59:19 _message = g_dbus_message_new_method_call (g_dbus_proxy_get_name ((GDBusProxy *) self), g_dbus_proxy_get_object_path ((GDBusProxy *) self), "org.sflphone.SFLphone.ConfigurationManager", "GetAccountList"); Feb 02 06:59:23 looks correct though Feb 02 07:17:05 moin Feb 02 07:32:12 moin JaMa|Off Feb 02 09:18:52 mrmoku: errors are not yet included in our interfaces, will have to do that Feb 02 09:19:07 s/our interfaces/our sflphone interface/ Feb 02 09:19:07 mickey|zzZZzz meant: mrmoku: errors are not yet included in our sflphone interface, will have to do that Feb 02 09:21:57 mrmoku: scratch that... i didn't see the actual error (unknown method)... still sleeping.. Feb 02 10:25:49 hi JaMa|Wrk Feb 02 10:27:14 hi Feb 02 10:27:50 I've some issues with ubifs and nokia900 Feb 02 10:28:10 maemo's rootfs works fine Feb 02 10:28:21 but when I generate something with oe and flash it Feb 02 10:28:26 ubiattach -m 5 fails Feb 02 10:28:34 do you have right ubifs params? Feb 02 10:28:50 I'll pastebin Feb 02 10:28:58 meego rootfs works here too Feb 02 10:29:09 what are the right ubifs params Feb 02 10:29:16 I'm struggeling to get them right Feb 02 10:29:17 don't know.. Feb 02 10:29:21 ok Feb 02 10:29:26 maybe meego has them? Feb 02 10:29:26 but they are printed in dmesg Feb 02 10:29:38 yes meego has them right Feb 02 10:29:51 I used dmesg to create them Feb 02 10:29:59 I'll look in meego .ks Feb 02 10:31:15 ah sorry.. I've checked only their btrfs.. Feb 02 10:31:29 * JaMa|Wrk needs more coffee to wake up today Feb 02 10:32:04 so I'll pastebin then Feb 02 10:32:16 they used to have ubifs images tough: Feb 02 10:32:17 http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/NAND Feb 02 10:34:04 http://pastebin.com/8CWsJnRC Feb 02 10:37:41 I'm not good with ubifs Feb 02 10:37:54 I copied all what was in dmesg Feb 02 10:37:58 and it failed Feb 02 10:39:03 http://pastebin.com/wFjYKqqx has more infos Feb 02 10:39:12 -e 8 looks strange Feb 02 10:39:24 ok I'll remove it Feb 02 10:39:25 for ubinize.. Feb 02 10:41:10 mickey|zzZZzz: ok, any idea why it does not work then Feb 02 10:41:28 that method works fine when called from mdbus2 Feb 02 10:42:52 GNUtoo|laptop: also for gta02 I had to sacrifise sub-pages, -s same as -m otherwise it always failed Feb 02 10:45:36 ok Feb 02 11:05:22 mickey|zzZZzz: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/331020/ is what I'm trying Feb 02 11:13:10 hmmm Feb 02 11:13:47 it said invalid argument because of the -O 2048 Feb 02 11:20:28 ubiattach -O 2048 -m 5 seem to work Feb 02 11:20:30 but.... Feb 02 11:20:57 it say Feb 02 11:21:01 LEB size mismatch Feb 02 11:21:13 I'll correct that Feb 02 11:38:39 thanks a lot!!!! Feb 02 11:38:42 but I wonder Feb 02 11:38:51 how to tell -O 2048 to the kernel Feb 02 11:41:28 ok found it Feb 02 11:48:04 ubi.mtd=5,2048 root=ubi0:nokia900-rootfs,2048 rootfstype=ubifs Feb 02 11:48:06 fails to find rootfs Feb 02 11:48:45 http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/faq/ubi.html#L_force_no_subpage Feb 02 11:49:48 gta02 does that: Feb 02 11:50:00 rootfstype=ubifs ubi.mtd=4,512 root=ubi0:om-gta01-rootfs Feb 02 11:52:26 I think it's booting Feb 02 13:00:26 mickey|office: hi :) Feb 02 13:00:33 mickey|office: actually... there is no GetAccountList Feb 02 13:00:36 just getAccountList Feb 02 13:14:59 mrmoku: darn Feb 02 13:15:09 ok, in that case we need to rename Feb 02 13:15:28 ~lart dbus interface authors violating the naming scheme Feb 02 13:15:28 * apt whips out a shotgun, trudges over to dbus interface authors violating the naming scheme, and goes postal Feb 02 13:18:11 hehe :) Feb 02 13:21:27 mickey|office: rename where though? Feb 02 13:22:10 in the specs i'd say Feb 02 13:22:36 let me have a quick look whether that'd work Feb 02 13:22:47 in the interface you can do this easily Feb 02 13:22:49 like Feb 02 13:23:02 [DBus (name = "somefancyNotConforming_name_you_sucker") Feb 02 13:23:07 public abstract void foo() Feb 02 13:23:10 however Feb 02 13:23:25 our interfaces get autogenerated from specs, so i have to check what vala-dbus-binding-tool actually does Feb 02 13:23:44 mickey|office: in the specs it's correct Feb 02 13:23:55 ok, bummer Feb 02 13:23:56 get's translated to get_account_list in libfso-glib vala code Feb 02 13:24:09 and there comes the problem Feb 02 13:24:12 vala then makes GetAccountList in c code out of it Feb 02 13:24:22 *nod* Feb 02 13:25:03 one (very ugly) thing we could do is sed the .c to fixup Feb 02 13:25:07 nah Feb 02 13:25:10 too ugly ;) Feb 02 13:25:13 :P Feb 02 13:25:19 i think i know how to fix that Feb 02 13:25:23 good :) Feb 02 13:25:37 vala-dbus-binding-tool needs to add the name directive before every created method Feb 02 13:25:45 which in turn takes the string as found in the specs Feb 02 13:25:51 so not relying on the vala-automatics Feb 02 13:25:58 yeah, that sounds clean Feb 02 13:26:00 or rather overriding it Feb 02 13:26:30 i'm familiar with vala-dbus-binding-tool Feb 02 13:26:35 i can do that Feb 02 13:26:41 depending on when my colleague comes, perhaps now Feb 02 13:26:44 *cough* Feb 02 13:26:48 :) Feb 02 13:27:09 * mrmoku hopes the colleague is not very reliable and much late :P Feb 02 13:27:29 hehe, he's at the VW station looking into the new EOS Feb 02 13:28:42 hmm, ok, right, the specs are fine Feb 02 13:29:22 hi Feb 02 13:29:56 who goes to fosdem btw? Feb 02 13:30:09 i'm not sure Feb 02 13:30:18 mickey|office, can't Feb 02 13:30:24 <[Rui]> I can't, sadly. Feb 02 13:30:29 morphis either Feb 02 13:30:33 i will only have time on sunday Feb 02 13:30:39 mrmoku, do you go to fosdem? Feb 02 13:30:42 ok Feb 02 13:30:51 <[Rui]> paternity leave prevents me from going unless I could stay at someone's home and get a very reliable nanny :) Feb 02 13:30:55 GNUtoo|laptop: no Feb 02 13:31:05 ok Feb 02 13:31:13 JaMa|Wrk, do you go to fosdem? Feb 02 13:38:27 no Feb 02 13:39:30 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r5dbcadd52886 10/src/vala-dbus-binding-tool.vala: Feb 02 13:39:30 freesmartphone.org: always emit [DBus (name = ...)] in order to cope with DBus interfaces Feb 02 13:39:30 freesmartphone.org: violating the DBus CamelCase naming scheme Feb 02 13:39:37 mrmoku: please check whether this fixes your problem Feb 02 13:39:41 mickey|office: ok Feb 02 13:39:44 (it will only work for method calls for now) Feb 02 13:39:48 i will adjust signals later Feb 02 13:40:37 mickey|office: getting lots of those: Feb 02 13:40:37 sflphone-sflphone.vala:742.18-742.34: error: syntax error, expected literal [DBus (name = setConfirmGoClear)] Feb 02 13:41:03 hmm Feb 02 13:41:10 perhaps i'm missing a \n Feb 02 13:41:18 no Feb 02 13:41:35 [DBus (name = setAudioManager)] Feb 02 13:41:35 public abstract void set_audio_manager(int api) throws DBusError, IOError; Feb 02 13:42:52 aah Feb 02 13:42:56 "foo" Feb 02 13:43:46 yup Feb 02 13:43:54 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r25e9cbb5ca20 10/src/vala-dbus-binding-tool.vala: fix emitting [DBus name()] directives Feb 02 13:44:48 i'm not much of a fan of the canonicalization of these names Feb 02 13:44:56 i think Vala / GLib / GDBus is doing too much there Feb 02 13:45:04 y_get_object_path ((GDBusProxy *) self), "org.sflphone.SFLphone.ConfigurationManager", "getAccountList"); Feb 02 13:45:07 but as long as we can override, i don't care Feb 02 13:45:08 looks good :) Feb 02 13:45:10 right Feb 02 13:45:31 all the names are taken from the specs now Feb 02 13:45:36 we might have introduced a regression somewhere Feb 02 13:45:40 so lets look for errors Feb 02 13:45:45 (in case the specs have typos) Feb 02 13:46:26 mickey|office: works :) Feb 02 13:46:27 0022 mok@gonzales[pts/3]:~/src/test/sflvoip-> src/sflvoip Feb 02 13:46:28 IP2IP Feb 02 13:46:28 Account:1296650690 Feb 02 13:46:28 Account:1296381532 Feb 02 13:46:30 Account:1290067996 Feb 02 13:46:30 yay Feb 02 13:46:32 Account:1290066550 Feb 02 13:49:59 ok Feb 02 13:53:07 what's the first two digits of your N900's IMSI? Feb 02 13:53:10 IMEI, that is Feb 02 13:53:11 35 ? Feb 02 13:57:40 mickey|office: yup 35 Feb 02 14:00:17 ok, GNUtoo|laptop and yours? Feb 02 14:00:44 how do I get that? Feb 02 14:03:01 I'll try with mdbus Feb 02 14:06:11 or open the case ; Feb 02 14:06:12 ;) Feb 02 14:06:32 should be written on the device underneath the battery or so Feb 02 14:08:36 mickey|office, yes 35 Feb 02 14:08:39 I used fsogsmd Feb 02 14:08:40 ok, thanks Feb 02 14:08:54 right, it can do that even with libisi Feb 02 14:08:57 because I'm in a data transfer mode Feb 02 14:09:09 I'm transfering music to it Feb 02 14:09:20 if I make headphones work Feb 02 14:09:27 it would be great Feb 02 14:09:50 I've reformated the 32gb onenand and the 16gb microsd Feb 02 14:09:56 so I have more space Feb 02 14:09:59 for music Feb 02 14:10:13 and I run on the 256M NAND Feb 02 14:10:22 so I can swap microsd Feb 02 14:10:31 thanks to JaMa for helping me to make NAND work Feb 02 14:10:53 I'll have to commit changes to oe's machine config Feb 02 14:13:08 cool Feb 02 14:13:26 in a couple of weeks you can have voice calls Feb 02 14:13:58 -if- someone figures out audio routing Feb 02 14:14:02 (gsm voice calls, that is) Feb 02 14:15:15 wow Feb 02 14:15:46 GNUtoo|laptop: did I? :) I think you found it all yourself (thank you for that) Feb 02 14:15:57 I wonder if giving morphis an n900 is worth the effort Feb 02 14:16:51 you told me that: Feb 02 14:17:06 GNUtoo|laptop: also for gta02 I had to sacrifise sub-pages, -s same as -m otherwise it always failed Feb 02 14:17:18 that made me succeed Feb 02 14:17:36 ok :) Feb 02 14:17:53 JaMa|Wrk, can I add the raw arguments or do I need a huge comment/ecplanation on top of it? Feb 02 14:17:57 btw is someone using ubifs on gta02 now? Feb 02 14:18:01 me Feb 02 14:18:12 reflashed lately? Feb 02 14:18:16 no Feb 02 14:18:20 some time ago only Feb 02 14:18:24 after switching to newer mtd-utils-native.. Feb 02 14:18:33 ah ok Feb 02 14:18:36 I should try then Feb 02 14:18:40 basically here's why I like ubifs Feb 02 14:18:44 I've many devices Feb 02 14:18:53 with a microsd slot Feb 02 14:18:57 I've a 16GB micorsd Feb 02 14:19:04 I've noticed at least 2 reports about ubifs not working anymore on ML.. but don't know if it's bug in mtd-utils or reporters Feb 02 14:19:07 the goal is to be able to share that microsd between devices Feb 02 14:19:13 ok Feb 02 14:19:18 I should try then Feb 02 14:20:10 what's the best way to save an ubifs rootfs Feb 02 14:21:56 GNUtoo|laptop: you mean like backup? Feb 02 14:23:10 yes Feb 02 14:23:17 because if newer images don't work.... Feb 02 14:24:43 on fr I usually do only file backup (because uSD is about 8 times bigger then my rootfs Feb 02 14:25:18 so I just copy everything to /old.`date` and remove it after a week with new rootfs if everything works Feb 02 14:25:37 ok I'll do that Feb 02 14:26:02 but iirc you can download whole partition with dfu-util too Feb 02 14:26:17 yes that's easier Feb 02 14:52:26 JaMa|Wrk, for my question, can I include the ubinize and mkubifs arguments without the comments? Feb 02 15:00:49 GNUtoo|laptop: yes or include relevant sections of dmesg output like I and some others did Feb 02 15:01:12 ok, that'll take me some time Feb 02 15:20:06 mickey|office: next problem :P Feb 02 15:20:07 main.vala:23.35-23.57: error: yield expression requires async method string[] accounts = yield conf.get_account_list(); Feb 02 15:20:25 and I'm *not* getting the Sync proxy Feb 02 15:36:43 mickey|office: nvm. without yield it works as expected... probably has some implicit yield thing included? Feb 02 15:43:19 hmm, no idea offhand Feb 02 15:43:27 ah wait Feb 02 15:43:35 you're only allowed to use yield in a function that's async Feb 02 15:47:53 mickey|office: yup, I made that function of my class async Feb 02 15:47:58 still that error though Feb 02 15:48:03 hmm, strange Feb 02 15:48:15 can you pastebin the file? Feb 02 15:48:16 public async void list_accounts() Feb 02 15:48:33 I'm in the middle of changing it Feb 02 15:48:44 ok Feb 02 15:49:02 aah Feb 02 15:49:05 i know Feb 02 15:49:20 probably the specs are not givin the async attribute Feb 02 15:49:29 so vdbt creates all the methods as sync Feb 02 15:49:34 can you fix that in the specs, please? Feb 02 15:50:36 mickey|office: ok, that sounds plausible, will fix Feb 02 15:52:06 mickey|office: can a method have two annotations? Or should I remove QtDBus ones? Feb 02 15:53:56 mrmoku: iirc yes, so just adding for every method should do Feb 02 15:55:29 mickey|office: if we don't need the QtBus ones I would sed them :) Feb 02 15:55:46 will just try Feb 02 15:55:57 what are the qtdbus ones for? Feb 02 15:56:02 (i don't have the source here) Feb 02 15:58:13 mickey|office: Feb 02 15:58:54 though not all methods have an annotation... will just add them then Feb 02 15:58:59 (the async one) Feb 02 16:02:12 good Feb 02 16:02:24 actually, i consider making the async standard in vdbt Feb 02 16:02:32 there is basically no reason to not use it Feb 02 16:02:39 especially since i create the sync version as well Feb 02 16:04:26 yup Feb 02 16:05:02 mickey|office: do you have some magic indent at hand to format the sflphone specs? Feb 02 16:05:18 not offhand, sorry Feb 02 16:05:22 i manually formatted all the fso specs Feb 02 16:05:29 ok Feb 02 17:22:56 mrmoku, I pushed a cherry-picked from next headphones support in 2.6.37 Feb 02 17:23:15 s/2.6.37/the dvfs + sound revert/ Feb 02 17:23:15 GNUtoo|laptop meant: mrmoku, I pushed a cherry-picked from next headphones support in the dvfs + sound revert Feb 02 17:35:29 GNUtoo|laptop: and works? Feb 02 17:36:56 yes Feb 02 17:45:34 Does anyone know how to get fso-gpsd working in SHR-testing 2011.1 RC2? Feb 02 17:49:35 stiell: for it's working Feb 02 17:53:44 GNUtoo|laptop: great :) Feb 02 17:57:41 Heinervdm: I'm on a fresh RC2 install, with TangoGPS connected to fso-gpsd, but no fix, and `cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/gta02-pm-gps.0/power_on` gives "0". Feb 02 18:00:00 stiell: if i activate it manually it's 1, i will check what happens with fso-raw Feb 02 18:01:16 stiell: i'm getting 1 for cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/gta02-pm-gps.0/power_on after stating TangoGPS Feb 02 18:02:58 Heinervdm: starting fso-gpsd manually gives "WARNING: org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Server: Create: The name org.freedesktop.Gypsy was not provided by any .service files" Feb 02 18:03:18 Also, fsoraw -l lists no "GPS" Feb 02 18:03:51 stiell: how did you flash the image? Feb 02 18:04:39 Heinervdm: dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a rootfs -R -D shr-full-eglibc-ipk-rc2-20110110-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 Feb 02 18:05:16 can you try to use an sd card? Feb 02 18:06:00 because a lot of people have problems with flashing with dfu-util in the last time Feb 02 18:06:18 nandwrite works fine, but dfu-util not Feb 02 18:07:31 The same dfu-util has always worked previously. Feb 02 18:08:23 I did see some jffs errors on boot. Feb 02 18:09:56 that was the same for me, from one day to another dfu-util stoped working for me Feb 02 18:15:48 happy rabbit CNY! Feb 02 18:21:18 btw I have a device here from Azog which as well has a very unusable image. AFAIK it's new SHR testing as well. GPS doesn't work, xterm has no font, just 'unprintable' rectangle signs. Rather hard to debug anything Feb 02 18:21:34 Heinervdm: stiell ^^^ Feb 02 18:22:30 DocScrutinizer: it's running from NAND too? Feb 02 18:22:43 I don't get it how you're supposed to handle this 'new' enlightenment GUI :-S Feb 02 18:22:44 yes Feb 02 18:23:50 vkbd doesn't pop up automatically anymore. no taskswitching, but a lot of weird cruft like split homescreen - - YUCK Feb 02 18:24:32 DocScrutinizer: yes kbd in GTK applications stopped working Feb 02 18:25:09 the task switch should appear if you click on the free space between the buttons and the time Feb 02 18:25:35 Azog: seems your system isn't really usable. what do you think about flashing an older version? Feb 02 18:26:01 DocScrutinizer: can you try to reflash the image with nandwrite? Feb 02 18:26:18 I can if Azog allows Feb 02 18:26:50 Azog: i assume you've flashed the image with dfu-util? Feb 02 18:27:10 mrmoku, next maybe I should look at camera Feb 02 18:27:24 but I've to push ubifs args first Feb 02 18:30:32 it's weird. There are THREE genuine freerunner users I've met in the pub next door (plus two who got lent devices from me). Seems my quarter is a OM hotspot Feb 02 18:31:08 :) Feb 02 18:33:19 we got something like 1/1000 for FR owners here. And, counting in my pile of devices, we got probably 1 FR / 500 Feb 02 18:35:00 OTOH I've not seen a single N900 except my own Feb 02 18:36:48 GNUtoo|laptop: regarding camera... it hit the nokia tree Feb 02 18:36:57 which tree? Feb 02 18:37:03 2.6.37? Feb 02 18:37:11 2.6.37-next Feb 02 18:37:42 wow Feb 02 18:37:47 I'll try to add it Feb 02 18:37:53 but I've to pack my stuff too Feb 02 18:38:01 nokia/2.6.37-n900-next Feb 02 18:38:05 to be exact Feb 02 18:38:15 bb after good night story Feb 02 18:38:28 ok Feb 02 18:52:03 Heinervdm: Booting from SD it seems GPS is working. Thanks. Feb 02 18:53:23 stiell: i think that there is something wrong with dfu-util and newer kernel, but i have no time to investigate this Feb 02 18:53:45 newer host kernel not newer FR kernel Feb 02 18:56:28 DocScrutinizer: hehe, open-minded location my birth town :-) Feb 02 18:59:13 ok, sorry for noobish request, but I really forgot how to prepare a uSD. Can somebody give me a 20 words knowledge brushup please? Feb 02 18:59:58 DocScrutinizer: qi or uboot? Feb 02 19:00:04 seems qi Feb 02 19:00:16 then just one ext2 partition Feb 02 19:00:37 mhm Feb 02 19:00:54 Heinervdm: you like that, right? [oe-commits] Stefan Schmidt : wpa-supplicant_0.7.3: Enable the new DBUS API and bump PR. Feb 02 19:00:58 Von: Feb 02 19:01:00 git version control Feb 02 19:01:18 and - I suppose - download and extract some .tgz image? Feb 02 19:01:18 mrmoku: yes, that's nice Feb 02 19:01:30 yes Feb 02 19:01:39 which reminds me... it was you or pespin who wanted to convert iliwi? pespin IIRC... Feb 02 19:02:03 ben_t or sth. like that has talked about it Feb 02 19:02:07 hi, is there some tricks to use less space on ubifs? Feb 02 19:02:11 ok Feb 02 19:02:15 like using higher compression? Feb 02 19:02:26 you got a wget link for the image? Feb 02 19:02:35 i wanted to show him the example script from wpa_supplicant but he hasn't showed up again Feb 02 19:03:03 preferably of a working version ;-) Feb 02 19:03:34 DocScrutinizer: there is no working version :P http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing2011.1/images/om-gta02/shr-lite-eglibc-ipk-rc2-20110110-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz Feb 02 19:03:43 hehe Feb 02 19:03:46 thanks Feb 02 19:04:27 mrmoku: do you remember when the problems with dfu-util started? Feb 02 19:04:52 Heinervdm: no, not really Feb 02 19:04:56 long ago though Feb 02 19:05:37 yes, i don't remeber either Feb 02 19:05:56 i wanted to check an older kernel but i don't know which version Feb 02 19:06:31 kernel on the host where you flash? Feb 02 19:06:37 yes Feb 02 19:13:30 Heinervdm: I wouldn't blame it on dfu-util. I've had problems with SHR working better on SD than on NAND in the past... Feb 02 19:13:39 (including GPS not working from NAND) Feb 02 19:14:13 admittedly, it was long ago (autumn 2009), but might be the same problem still... Feb 02 19:14:26 antrik: did not follow what the current problems are... but I had the problem that flashing with dfu-util just gave me an empty NAND Feb 02 19:14:26 antrik: my problems with dfu-util were that files were missing or corrupt after flashing them Feb 02 19:14:30 err, I never ever used qi. How would I make it boot from uSD? Feb 02 19:14:57 DocScrutinizer: it automatically boots from the first SD partition Feb 02 19:15:02 k Feb 02 19:15:02 if it finds a kernel there Feb 02 19:15:05 DocScrutinizer: the uSD should have ext2 partition with both rootfs and /boot/uImage-GTA02 Feb 02 19:15:19 (or was it uImage-GTA02.bin?) Feb 02 19:15:22 no Feb 02 19:15:40 just check the Qi man page? ;) Feb 02 19:15:44 * lindi- hides Feb 02 19:17:03 which would be 'vi qi.c' :P Feb 02 19:20:28 mmpff, /dev/sdb on /media/disk-1 type ext2 -- time for cfdisk? Feb 02 19:30:01 hello, who cares about "SingleInstance=true" in .desktop files ? This is not a standard key, who can explain what this key does ? Feb 02 19:42:57 DocScrutinizer: err... you mean it's not partitioned at all? yeah, I think you will have to change that Feb 02 19:43:19 done Feb 02 19:57:54 how long might a first boot take? I got some "error: ext2_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 25534" - after the nice SHR bootscreen. Now seems stalled since minutes Feb 02 19:58:56 DocScrutinizer: ugh... sounds like the FS wasn't properly synced on reboot Feb 02 19:59:06 or some other FS corruption Feb 02 19:59:20 :-S Feb 02 19:59:37 back to mkfs.ext2 and tar Feb 02 20:00:09 some people seem to have problems with FS corruption on SD in general :-( Feb 02 20:00:18 (gena2x claims it's KMS' fault) Feb 02 20:00:20 there's been no reboot, and I definitely sync'ed prior to removing card from PC Feb 02 20:00:49 ah, you wrote the SD on the PC... then I guess it's not an FR problem Feb 02 20:03:54 antrik: i've removed kms from shr-testing kernel Feb 02 20:08:32 I'm not sure it was a that good idea to install the rootfs on NAND Feb 02 20:08:48 space is often lacking Feb 02 20:08:54 specially if I install data on it Feb 02 20:08:55 for instance Feb 02 20:09:01 wesnoth-wvga-data Feb 02 20:10:04 hi! Feb 02 20:10:22 they announced a new efl app to use periodique table of elements which looks great: http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=398971 Feb 02 20:10:28 I've already tried it in my PC :) Feb 02 20:17:01 GNUtoo|laptop: you could put /usr some place else ;-) Feb 02 20:17:26 HEL!!! Feb 02 20:17:30 LLL! Feb 02 20:18:03 antrik, I'll move wesnoth data Feb 02 20:18:03 uhm I think I lost connection Feb 02 20:18:05 it's the best Feb 02 20:18:19 * DocScrutinizer adjusts Transcend 1GB uSD with a hammer and a torch Feb 02 20:28:34 AHAAAAA Feb 02 20:28:48 4GB Kingston works quite a bit better :-) Feb 02 20:29:14 * DocScrutinizer kicks Transcend card in the guts Feb 02 20:32:20 DocScrutinizer: just go on and flash something on it Feb 02 20:34:23 Azog: about to prepare a uSD Feb 02 20:35:28 DocScrutinizer: there is nothing important on the freerunner Feb 02 20:43:21 ok, no fix yet, but a correct time after 3 minutes at open window (brrrrrrrrrr!!!) - ergo: GPS works. When do we meet so you pick your device up? Feb 02 20:43:26 Azog: ^^^ Feb 02 20:44:19 DocScrutinizer: wait, until you get a fix Feb 02 20:44:27 please Feb 02 20:45:15 didumdidum Feb 02 20:45:46 DocScrutinizer: how did you enabled the GPS time Sync ? is it enabled by default or did you changed the frameworkd.conf ? Feb 02 20:46:31 nah, in settings - position, start the GPS and eventually the "time: " will change from unknown to correct time Feb 02 20:47:47 DocScrutinizer: this seems to be a new feature, weeks ago the frameworkd.conf needs a change is it right ? Feb 02 20:47:50 time is the first data grabbed from sats Feb 02 20:48:21 dunno, it's been like this 18months ago, and it's still like this now Feb 02 20:49:37 DocScrutinizer: maybe it can only see 1 satellite, and cannot see others; can you see the noise-level somehow? Feb 02 20:50:00 3D fix 49.45 11.09 Feb 02 20:50:34 DocScrutinizer: oh, nice, very strange, maybe shr was the problem Feb 02 20:50:44 DocScrutinizer: what version did you use? Feb 02 20:51:20 shr-lite-eglibc-ipk-rc2-20110110-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz Feb 02 20:52:30 mickey|zzZZzz: ahh... right you said the signals are still to adjust... now I remember Feb 02 20:52:49 * mrmoku was wondering for some minutes why he does not get a CallStateChanged signal from sflphoned :P Feb 02 20:53:54 so I think you can pick up the FR. I added one of those http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/sdcard-handle/20080801991.jpg , so the repair wasn't completely in vain ;-D Feb 02 20:54:44 DocScrutinizer: timesources = GPS,NTP in [otimed] is not necessary ? Feb 02 20:55:04 that's not relevant for the settings page Feb 02 20:55:52 it is, however, if you want your system time getting set from GPS Feb 02 20:56:18 DocScrutinizer: sorry i misunderstood you, now its clear Feb 02 20:56:54 DocScrutinizer: do you know: Is time sync via GSM possible ? Feb 02 20:56:57 DocScrutinizer: thanks, another question: now that gps works nice, does my freerunner have bug 1024? Feb 02 20:57:26 I always thought it is. Used that a lot (you know, broken bupbat ;-D ) Feb 02 20:58:32 Azog: if it doesn't have a fix done by your reseller, then it's susceptible to #1024 Feb 02 20:59:00 DocScrutinizer: my freerunner even did not have buzzfix from the beginning Feb 02 20:59:19 no version of GTA02 has 1024 fixed in factory Feb 02 20:59:29 would 1024-fix be a lot of work for you? Feb 02 20:59:35 yes Feb 02 20:59:35 DocScrutinizer: my Phone does not sync via GSM, with very old OM-FW it does Feb 02 21:00:19 DocScrutinizer: so just leave it this way, looking at gps was nice enough Feb 02 21:00:33 Azog: I'm too old (my eyes to be precise) Feb 02 21:00:36 and not to forget the sd-card-thingie Feb 02 21:01:16 Azog: a german Frerunner seller also fixes the phones Feb 02 21:01:34 Azog: yes. Goldelico does afaik Feb 02 21:01:47 DocScrutinizer: you are right Feb 02 21:02:04 DocScrutinizer: so, when do you have time? i also ask tobi, if he would come to the willich Feb 02 21:02:13 another friend of mine yesterday said he ponders to get the full set of hw-fixes, for some 80bucks Feb 02 21:02:31 in 30 min? :-) Feb 02 21:02:52 nope, not possible, i am sitting here in erlangen Feb 02 21:03:15 oh, so make these 5 users 4 actually Feb 02 21:03:40 which 5 users? Feb 02 21:04:00 the 5 FR users I found here in my quarter Feb 02 21:04:18 actually in willich Feb 02 21:04:21 tobi is also from erlangen Feb 02 21:04:27 meh Feb 02 21:04:35 3 then Feb 02 21:04:37 --count Feb 02 21:05:07 minus the 2 that got devices from me, leaves Ibi and he left for Hetzner Dresden Feb 02 21:05:31 in fact, you told so nice things about the n900, that i am thinking of bying one this week Feb 02 21:05:58 :-D Feb 02 21:06:42 anyway, just ping me whenever you drop by here. I'm usually "at home" Feb 02 21:06:53 so it's like 5min to willich Feb 02 21:07:34 ok, maybe next week monday or tuesday, what do you think? Feb 02 21:08:01 you might consider to actually use SHR on a uSD. Seems flashing to NAND gives rotten system recently Feb 02 21:08:38 i try Feb 02 21:08:52 you got the original 512MB uSD? then I could flash the system to a similar card and we swap cards Feb 02 21:09:18 jama is unsure if the users did domething wrong or if it's broken Feb 02 21:09:23 but actually it's easy, you can do it as well Feb 02 21:09:49 beware with flash....data consume a lot Feb 02 21:10:00 Azog: yeah, next week is ok Feb 02 21:10:07 uhm xrandr is failing to rotate in FR? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/331279/ Feb 02 21:19:01 * DocScrutinizer ponders replacing his alarm clock at bed by a FR. That green 7segment looks nice Feb 02 21:39:27 mrmoku, mickey|zzZZzz hmm there's some kind of race condition somewhere. Today I was in the metro (so no debug) and I was called and when I and pressed the release button, I think I didn't heard anything on the other side, and the phone continued vibrating forever. This has happened to me more than once so far ;) Feb 02 22:31:40 <[Rui]> captainigloo: ping? Feb 02 22:39:14 mrmoku: how to rescue sms from /tmp/fsogsmd//*/*? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Feb 03 02:59:57 2011