**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 04 02:59:57 2011
Feb 04 06:41:14 <mrmoku> alexxy: pong ;)
Feb 04 06:41:22 <mrmoku> and moin
Feb 04 06:44:55 <JaMa|Wrk> moin
Feb 04 10:13:23 <Mr_Luke> somwher in?
Feb 04 10:13:36 <Mr_Luke> anyone in ?
Feb 04 10:15:27 <Mr_Luke> I have some problems with the git kernel  repository
Feb 04 10:15:51 <Mr_Luke> git.openmoko.org[0: 88.198.160.201]: errno=Connection refused
Feb 04 10:17:55 <JaMa|Wrk> Mr_Luke: try it over 80 which seems open 9418 seems closed
Feb 04 10:18:47 <JaMa|Wrk> yes http still works
Feb 04 10:19:24 <Mr_Luke> thanks  al lot it does :-)
Feb 04 10:39:04 <[Rui]> morning all
Feb 04 12:07:32 <GarthPS> HeinervdmOff: hi i just saw your interventions on precentral about the thread on SHR on palm pre. thx . i was a bite off lastly so it is a good thing that you answered there.
Feb 04 12:12:23 <HeinervdmWork> GarthPS: i tried to flash my pre the day before and had a lot of problems, so i thought it would be better to tell them
Feb 04 12:13:43 <GarthPS> HeinervdmWork: you were right! in fact it was really not due to be published that fast as event images are not stable/and accessible somet time (for exemple for the pre 2)
Feb 04 12:13:59 <GarthPS> so i just added some wrning to the howto
Feb 04 12:14:32 <GarthPS> but it is good to know that we can make some noise easily with precentral
Feb 04 12:15:53 <HeinervdmWork> yes :)
Feb 04 12:18:41 <GarthPS> :)
Feb 04 12:19:11 <GarthPS> HeinervdmWork: and so to reach more people 
Feb 04 13:24:00 * mickey|office really curious about the palm event on 9th
Feb 04 13:24:03 <mickey|office> err
Feb 04 13:24:06 <mickey|office> HP, that is
Feb 04 13:24:19 <mrmoku> hehe
Feb 04 13:24:42 <mrmoku> just tablets or a phone to expect too?
Feb 04 13:25:19 <mickey|office> i think the rumor mill expects both
Feb 04 13:25:35 <mickey|office> i'm not so much interested in a tablet
Feb 04 15:23:38 <subgirl> hi
Feb 04 15:27:13 <subgirl> uhm could anyone tell me if it's still possible to install SHR on a flashcard?
Feb 04 15:28:19 <JaMa|Wrk> flashcard?
Feb 04 15:29:26 <subgirl> microSD
Feb 04 15:29:40 <JaMa|Wrk> like usbdisk? you can unpack it anywhere you want.. but I afaik booting usbdisk is not supported by u-boot as well as Qi
Feb 04 15:29:51 <JaMa|Wrk> ah uSD.. yes that's easy and described in manual
Feb 04 15:30:46 <subgirl> i tryed but it doesen't seem to work i get kernel panics with all of the images
Feb 04 15:31:03 <JaMa|Wrk> gta02?
Feb 04 15:31:07 <subgirl> yes
Feb 04 15:31:27 <JaMa|Wrk> what does kernel-panic say? unknown-block-device?
Feb 04 15:31:56 <subgirl> most of them complain about syncing
Feb 04 15:33:10 <JaMa|Wrk> some uSD cards need slower glamo clock
Feb 04 15:33:30 <subgirl> i see how can i change that
Feb 04 15:34:48 <JaMa|Wrk> http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743 add that glamo_mci.sd_max_clk param to /boot/append-GTA02 on uSD
Feb 04 15:34:48 <subgirl> and shouldn't a class 6 be fast enough?
Feb 04 15:34:59 <JaMa|Wrk> problem is when card is too fast
Feb 04 15:35:12 <JaMa|Wrk> are you using Qi?
Feb 04 15:35:27 <subgirl> no i tryed with uboot
Feb 04 15:36:32 <JaMa|Wrk> then you can start with replacing rootdelay with rootwait in your u-boot env
Feb 04 15:37:03 <JaMa|Wrk> if it still doesn't work add that glamo_mci.sd_max_clk to u-boot env (not append-GTA02 as this is only for Qi)
Feb 04 15:38:29 <subgirl> thx i will try that
Feb 04 16:34:26 <nschle85> JaMa|Off: do you come back today ?
Feb 04 16:39:26 <nschle85> KaZeR: can you commit to oe and are you interested in merging http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1279 ?
Feb 04 16:57:15 <stiell> I'm trying to communicate with the FR GPS using the ubx binary protocol, but FSO (ogpsd?) keeps interfering by accessing the device file in parallell. Is there an easy way to put my program in between the device and FSO (so that FSO gets GPS data from my program), or do I need to hack ogpsd?
Feb 04 17:24:04 <nschle85> stiell: you should read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TangoGPS there is explained how fso is configured (frameworkd.conf))
Feb 04 17:24:52 <nschle85> stiell: I guess you change the configuration to the device node, provided by your software
Feb 04 17:25:47 <nschle85> stiell: and your software connects to /dev/ttySAC1
Feb 04 17:27:15 <JaMa|Off> nschle85: only for few minutes, is it about #1279?
Feb 04 17:29:04 <morphis> heyho
Feb 04 17:31:53 <nschle85> JaMa|Off: in general of fixing QA issues, i would like to try to fix all i can but will the be merged ?
Feb 04 17:33:08 <JaMa|Off> nschle85: yes and navit patch is already merged
Feb 04 17:33:52 <nschle85> JaMa|Off: thank you, but be carefully with my patches, I do not know what  I am sometimes doing :-)
Feb 04 17:33:59 <JaMa|Off> nschle85: but for next time please just send proper patch (with SOB line etc - see git format-patch) to shr-devel ML, then it's about 5 times faster and easier for me to apply
Feb 04 17:34:25 <nschle85> JaMa|Off: yes Sir
Feb 04 17:35:58 <nschle85> JaMa|Off: thats all for today
Feb 04 17:47:49 <stiell> nschle85: I guess I could output NMEA to ogpsd, that way I can replace fso-gpsd at the same time. Thanks.
Feb 04 18:30:11 <Wonka> re
Feb 04 18:31:32 <playya> ~logs wonka
Feb 04 18:32:16 <playya> Wonka, http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko-cdevel/openmoko-cdevel.20110204.txt
Feb 04 19:15:48 <CIA-77> freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07cornucopia * r2be038d144a2 10/libfsobasics/fsobasics/process.vala: libfsobasics: AsyncProcess: Use IOFuncs for stderr/stdout instead of signals
Feb 04 20:47:50 <alexxy> mrmoku: ping
Feb 04 20:47:51 <alexxy> =)
Feb 04 20:48:05 <alexxy> mrmoku: i have some logs  for you
Feb 04 20:48:07 <alexxy> =)
Feb 04 21:02:03 <alex84> HI all
Feb 04 21:02:48 <alex84> Could anyone point me in the direction of some config files in the latest shr-unstable?
Feb 04 21:03:12 <alex84> vimrc, ntp confs and such?
Feb 04 21:04:49 <mrmoku> alexxy: nice, please open a ticket on fso trac
Feb 04 21:05:04 <mrmoku> so that the right people can take a look :)
Feb 04 21:05:09 <alexxy> mrmoku: i cannot login to track
Feb 04 21:13:37 <[Rui]> albertD: hi, what do you need, really?
Feb 04 21:13:52 <[Rui]> alex84: ^^^^^^^^---> was for you
Feb 04 21:14:43 <mrmoku> alexxy: fso trac? why?
Feb 04 21:15:03 <alexxy> hmm
Feb 04 21:15:09 <alexxy> i mean shr-track
Feb 04 21:15:13 <mrmoku> no, fso trac
Feb 04 21:15:19 <mrmoku> that's the place for your logs :)
Feb 04 21:15:25 <alexxy> i didnt even registered in fso
Feb 04 21:15:25 <mrmoku> component fsogsmd
Feb 04 21:15:31 <alexxy> oh
Feb 04 21:15:43 <mrmoku> or are you talking about something different?
Feb 04 21:16:35 <mrmoku> alexxy: the best way to get mickey|zzZZzz to take a look at it is a nice bug report with logs on fso trac
Feb 04 21:35:15 <PaulFertser> Heh, i received a mail from Amazon offering to try interviewing for a Kindle (embedded Linux) development, with mandatory relocation to "sunny California"...
Feb 04 21:42:22 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: hmm... I got something similiar from TI texas for network adminstration some time ago :P
Feb 04 21:42:40 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: do you think i should try to apply? :)
Feb 04 21:43:04 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: if you want have some more sun... why not ;)
Feb 04 21:43:29 <mrmoku> +to
Feb 04 21:43:29 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: but i surely not want to relocate to the "country of evil" you know :)
Feb 04 21:43:35 <mrmoku> :P
Feb 04 21:43:42 <mrmoku> yeah, me neither
Feb 04 21:44:11 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: i even refused to visit california (though i guess it's _the_ place i would like to visit there) as a tourist recently...
Feb 04 21:44:38 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: always a good thing to study the evil :)
Feb 04 21:45:17 <PaulFertser> I think i've seen enough of the California in "Easy Rider" and read about it in "On the road", so why ruin such a great image.
Feb 04 21:45:27 <mrmoku> :)
Feb 04 22:09:51 <alex84> [rui]:Sorry, I was away there for a while... :)
Feb 04 22:10:10 <[Rui]> sure, no problem :)
Feb 04 22:11:17 <alex84> I just got to pay my FR some attention after quite a few months in which I haven't touched it,
Feb 04 22:11:37 <alex84> And I can't remember where all the configs are
Feb 04 22:11:46 <alex84> even the basic stuff
Feb 04 22:13:35 <alex84> on SHR that is
Feb 04 22:13:52 <alex84> I mean, I installed ntp-utils,
Feb 04 22:14:10 <alex84> but where do I find ntpd.conf?
Feb 04 22:14:44 <alex84> I'm too used to working with gentoo at work...
Feb 04 22:16:22 <alex84> Or, where do I find vimrc after installing vim?
Feb 04 22:24:54 <alex84> Oh snap,
Feb 04 22:25:11 <alex84> Am I off topic here?
Feb 04 22:25:22 <alex84> damn
Feb 04 22:26:00 <alex84> Please accept my apologies, I must have entered the wrong channel...
Feb 04 22:26:08 <alex84> sorry ppl...
Feb 04 23:29:15 <[Rui]> poor alex84 I got immediately distraught with the baby and never noticed xchat again until now :|
Feb 05 00:22:24 <antrik> PaulFertser: well, I think you should worry more about working on an evil DRM device than working in an evil country ;-)
Feb 05 00:22:56 <antrik> anyways, applying can never hurt -- you can always still decide to refuse the job
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