**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 10 02:59:57 2011 Feb 10 08:26:59 mickey|bbl: ping Feb 10 10:14:31 GNUtoo|laptop: hi, wrt libpciaccess build failure.. it's sflphone-common fault.. it's overwriting std eglibc headers like err.h.. Feb 10 10:29:10 <[Rui]> mornin' Feb 10 10:29:48 JaMa|Off, ah ok, will it be fixed? Feb 10 10:30:34 GNUtoo|laptop: I've asked Heinervdm few days ago.. so I expect it Feb 10 10:30:43 ok Feb 10 10:30:45 GNUtoo|laptop: on shr buildhost I'm rebuilding eglibc atm to fix it Feb 10 10:30:53 ok Feb 10 10:31:03 rebuild_toolchain alias I bet Feb 10 10:31:16 no, only eglibc no Feb 10 10:31:17 w Feb 10 10:32:41 bitbake -c clean eglibc;bitbake shr-image? Feb 10 10:32:47 no Feb 10 10:33:06 this would end you with rebuild_toolchain :) Feb 10 10:33:23 bitbake -c unpack -f eglibc-initial eglibc Feb 10 10:52:21 [Rui], there's sth wrong with the patch. it downloads the messages, but are never displayed in the UI :/ Feb 10 10:53:50 <[Rui]> playya: urgh Feb 10 10:54:20 and the options dialog is somhow ugly Feb 10 10:54:21 <[Rui]> playya: haven't had a chance to look at it, I wanted to complete the new softkey yesterday and couldn't and now I'd like to finish it today Feb 10 10:54:26 <[Rui]> yeah Feb 10 10:54:42 what about setting elm_table_homogenous for options_foo Feb 10 10:54:50 ok Feb 10 12:47:04 dos1: ping Feb 10 12:47:18 dos1: any news on opimd and delivery report? Feb 10 14:42:04 ~seen morphis Feb 10 14:42:14 morphis <~morphis@dslb-088-071-230-121.pools.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 2d 31s ago, saying: 'mickey|office: is there already a recipe for libgisi in OE?'. Feb 10 15:00:04 hi mickey|office Feb 10 15:00:28 mickey|office: how's family? Feb 10 15:25:06 GNUtoo|laptop, hi! I continued looking a bit more yesterday and xorg is working properly. Problem are efl apps/wm which outputs errors about no epoll fd. Feb 10 15:25:16 I can run icewm for example Feb 10 15:25:37 pespin, ouch that's bad Feb 10 15:25:41 pespin, what kernel version? Feb 10 15:26:49 2.6.25 Feb 10 15:27:48 morphis has 2.6.24 Feb 10 15:27:52 GNUtoo|laptop, and touchscreen works (detects the presses) but cursor doesn't move. It's always near the bottom left screen Feb 10 15:28:04 pespin, calibrate it Feb 10 15:28:08 x-input-calibrator Feb 10 15:28:09 but evtest shows differnet Y and X values Feb 10 15:28:20 then calibrate it Feb 10 15:28:28 GNUtoo|laptop, I tried, but it only works with first cross to press Feb 10 15:28:46 then, the app detcts the pressing too, but the corss doesn't get white Feb 10 15:30:31 then you may have to spend a day getting the right values Feb 10 15:31:20 GNUtoo|laptop, where do I have to set values? Feb 10 15:31:31 hmmm let me remember Feb 10 15:31:49 but anyway it's quite weird Feb 10 15:31:53 what xorg input driver do you use? Feb 10 15:32:24 evdev or tslib? Feb 10 15:32:36 I mean, it doesn't seem uncalibrated (although it surely is), it doesnt detect different places when being used in xserver Feb 10 15:32:36 or do both work? Feb 10 15:32:58 really? Feb 10 15:33:02 ok Feb 10 15:33:12 then if you say it's calibrated(it comes from android after all) Feb 10 15:33:19 do that: Feb 10 15:33:24 don't calibrate it Feb 10 15:33:35 and try to move the cursor at every place possible Feb 10 15:33:38 to findout Feb 10 15:33:43 if X and Y are inverted Feb 10 15:33:46 or swapped Feb 10 15:34:05 swapped means when you move horizontally the cursor moves vertically Feb 10 15:34:16 inverted means when you move left it moves right Feb 10 15:34:27 or when you go up it goes down Feb 10 15:34:37 else Feb 10 15:34:42 if it's uncalibrated Feb 10 15:34:48 you could try to calibrate manually Feb 10 15:34:50 with evtest Feb 10 15:35:02 basically I don't remember the format Feb 10 15:35:13 but with evtest get the top-left etc... points Feb 10 15:35:22 ok Feb 10 15:35:30 and then translate them in xinput-calibration format Feb 10 15:35:36 or tslib if you use tslib Feb 10 15:35:53 it's as htcdream, so I think it's evdev Feb 10 15:35:58 but you should really have accepted the white htcdream Feb 10 15:36:03 because your device has no wifi Feb 10 15:36:07 the screen is small Feb 10 15:36:09 etc.... Feb 10 15:38:50 nah, as I don't have much more time for this. I'm starting classes this monday and will have few time. Feb 10 15:40:41 ok Feb 10 15:41:02 so maybe you should consider spending time on improving FSO/SHR Feb 10 15:41:18 instead of porting to your device that doesn't have wifi Feb 10 15:45:00 hi DocScrutinizer, thanks, good so far. 3.5 months until the baby comes... Feb 10 15:46:02 :-) Feb 10 15:48:23 just in case somebody is pondering replacement of fubar bupbat (or using sth better on gta04): http://www.mouser.com/catalog/632/2009.pdf see bottom of page Feb 10 15:48:38 i'm making some progress with isi, it's actually half as scary as i initially thought Feb 10 15:53:32 great Feb 10 15:53:52 mickey|office: do they mention GPS interfacing somewhere? Feb 10 15:55:14 DocScrutinizer: afair neither in the docs nor in ofono. but i only looked briefly. Feb 10 15:55:19 (bupbat) applies to GTA01(?)/02 and N900 as all 3 suffer from same problem which is "backup battery dead after 6 months) Feb 10 15:55:24 " Feb 10 15:56:10 mickey|office: I'd call that a flaw in specs, regarding quite usual and even mandatory GPS config of contemporary phones Feb 10 15:57:10 hehe, for sure. the API docs even don't mention any SIM subsystems at all :D Feb 10 15:57:34 (bupbat) and it seems N900 has same fsckdup Seiko battery we find in Neo Feb 10 15:58:03 DocScrutinizer: gps for n900 is partially reversed already, only very basic functionality though. Feb 10 15:58:04 err WUT? no SAT / STK? Feb 10 15:58:29 PaulFertser: yeah, I know. But really just the basics nly Feb 10 15:59:00 I wonder how meego-arm is dealing with that Feb 10 15:59:42 IP can't be any rationale here, as it's all just Nokia's BB5 interface Feb 10 16:00:12 you'd guess they own full rights in this technology Feb 10 16:01:39 jacekowski eventually might completely RE/disassemble the cmt BB5 FW Feb 10 16:01:51 he even started in that Feb 10 16:02:45 so at very least we know we can disassemble (ARM), change, flash & brick - as it's checksummed&signed Feb 10 16:03:04 hmmm Feb 10 16:03:16 as far as I know xloader still can't be replaced Feb 10 16:03:23 but nolo can Feb 10 16:03:26 this is cmt here Feb 10 16:03:29 ok Feb 10 16:03:44 but it's working quite similar Feb 10 16:03:48 ah ok Feb 10 16:04:28 just they sign the full "OS" in cmt Feb 10 16:05:13 OM didn't do this for calypso, so we could've done ;-D Feb 10 16:05:30 s/so/though/ Feb 10 16:05:30 DocScrutinizer meant: OM didn't do this for calypthough, so we could've done ;-D Feb 10 16:05:37 meh Feb 10 16:05:46 indeed and OM's calypso is supported by osmcombb Feb 10 16:06:16 BB5 rapuyama prolly never will be Feb 10 16:07:52 http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/CalypsoRomloader#Romloadersupportinosmocon Feb 10 16:08:18 GNUtoo|laptop: and is it working with osmcombb? Feb 10 16:08:27 alexxy, don't try it Feb 10 16:08:41 i saw files in their repo Feb 10 16:08:52 but does it works =) Feb 10 16:08:53 http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/LegalAspects#Usingmodifiedphonesoncarriernetworks Feb 10 16:08:58 no idea Feb 10 16:09:03 I've no test license Feb 10 16:09:11 and no BTS Feb 10 16:09:14 so I can't try Feb 10 16:09:57 basically if I use their code on a carrier network and that it crash the carrier network....which has huge chance to happen Feb 10 16:10:09 I don't know what happens to me....jail? Feb 10 16:10:10 GNUtoo|laptop, it's illegal to send data from an unlicensed frimware, but it works Feb 10 16:10:27 playya, you tried it? Feb 10 16:10:37 at least harald said it works Feb 10 16:10:41 ok Feb 10 16:10:42 no. not yet Feb 10 16:10:55 20min phone calls had been achieved on carrier networks Feb 10 16:10:59 i need the freerunner to send SMS to my pre Feb 10 16:11:06 but I don't want to try unless it's safe to do so Feb 10 16:11:07 the terms and conditions of carrier networks vary, but will likely not allow the use of uncertified/unauthorized phones Feb 10 16:11:10 he he Feb 10 16:11:19 gta02 isnt certifyed here Feb 10 16:11:20 =) Feb 10 16:11:24 I don't care about unautorized Feb 10 16:11:31 *unautorized phones Feb 10 16:11:42 I care about baseband that crash network stacks Feb 10 16:11:44 but i'm using it :) Feb 10 16:11:50 without any problems Feb 10 16:11:51 =) Feb 10 16:11:55 you can compile the firmware without tx support Feb 10 16:12:00 it's very different Feb 10 16:12:09 so you can't break anything Feb 10 16:12:12 in the case of the freerunner you have no risks or nearly no risks Feb 10 16:12:17 ok Feb 10 16:12:22 but then it's useless Feb 10 16:12:32 what could be done with rx only? Feb 10 16:12:39 sniff the network? Feb 10 16:12:44 maybe sniffing Feb 10 16:12:45 I don't want to spy people Feb 10 16:12:57 or to decode A51 Feb 10 16:13:16 I'll explain Feb 10 16:13:26 carrier network are badly programmed Feb 10 16:13:31 if you want to decode a51 you need to remove some parts of the hardware to get the raw values Feb 10 16:13:37 they don't check for malformed stuff Feb 10 16:13:50 if you have a different or malformed packet Feb 10 16:13:59 it can crash their network Feb 10 16:14:09 during some test on non-carrier network Feb 10 16:14:16 hmmm Feb 10 16:14:24 osmcombb people crashed their equipements Feb 10 16:14:28 multiples times Feb 10 16:14:36 like they crash the phone Feb 10 16:14:58 with their modified BTS Feb 10 16:15:01 and similar stuff Feb 10 16:15:12 not to count the lack of memory protection on cellphones Feb 10 16:15:23 the lack of Autentification of the network Feb 10 16:15:24 etc... Feb 10 16:15:25 then you can hope that the error logging is as badd as the protocol implementation :) Feb 10 16:15:36 lol Feb 10 16:15:48 I don't want to risk it..... Feb 10 16:15:56 it's understandable..... Feb 10 16:16:04 and that it segv before the write call Feb 10 16:16:24 if you want I can get you the references of what I said Feb 10 16:16:46 but if you look at harald welte blog and talks Feb 10 16:16:48 no. not necessary Feb 10 16:16:52 you'll see some references Feb 10 16:17:35 <[Rui]> Ok, what I've just commited to shr_elm_softkey is safe to use (but still without a task list) Feb 10 16:17:46 <[Rui]> 96c229d..2d20824 Feb 10 16:18:14 what else can you do? Feb 10 16:18:17 I've got an idea Feb 10 16:18:30 because sniffing is not my cup of tea Feb 10 16:18:33 so.... Feb 10 16:18:43 Maybe I could collect mnc,lac,etc.... Feb 10 16:20:10 GNUtoo|laptop, yes. steve showed some demo maps produced by gsmmap at the 27c3 talk Feb 10 16:21:10 the talk with android+google maps gsm localization Feb 10 16:22:49 no Feb 10 16:23:05 haralds talk about osmocom-bb Feb 10 16:23:15 ok Feb 10 16:23:56 openBSC supports a new hardware: HSL femtocell Feb 10 16:30:00 <[Rui]> shr-e-gadgets should probably be tested to check if it's still working ok, I build it fine with bb -b and works on the freerunner but still... Feb 10 16:38:20 is there something for the freerunner that can use location of GSM(LAC etc...) Feb 10 16:47:27 GNUtoo|laptop, I found the ts problem. If I enable SwapAxes "true" then cursor doesn't move. Feb 10 16:47:49 if I comment the line, ts works ok but with incorrect axes ;) Feb 10 16:47:55 ok Feb 10 17:25:21 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07gdbus * rbe04404aa6f9 10cornucopia/tools/mdbus2/src/main.vala: mdbus2: Fix indentation of interface descriptions Feb 10 17:25:23 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07gdbus * rbabe9f52900d 10cornucopia/tools/mdbus2/src/main.vala: mdbus2: Show some nice arrows pointing on the parsing errors position Feb 10 18:03:17 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgisi * r25d70384b6f9 10/ (gisicomm/gisicomm.vala tests/testping.vala): gisicomm: implement list providers Feb 10 18:04:42 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2f5f64964349 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_nokia_isi/mediators.vala: Feb 10 18:04:42 freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: modem_nokia_isi: implement org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.ListProviders() Feb 10 18:04:42 freesmartphone.org: NOTE: The N900 does not report operators operating(sic!) on various Feb 10 18:04:42 freesmartphone.org: networks as distinct ones. Also, it _forcefully_ overrides the real provider Feb 10 18:04:43 freesmartphone.org: names with the one found in the SIM mapping table. Feb 10 18:06:43 mrmoku: ok, we're rougly on the level of the previous libisi incarnation now and can advance from here... Feb 10 18:07:17 mrmoku: i'd be interested whether it works on the device, so if you have a chance, please test Feb 10 18:07:33 any progress on phonet forwarding, folks? Feb 10 18:08:45 mickey|bbl: great Feb 10 18:09:00 can't test today though Feb 10 18:09:12 tomorrow Feb 10 18:09:29 k. the moment we have phonet forwarding i abandon maemo, but until then... Feb 10 18:09:40 (eh yes Feb 10 18:09:52 freaking fwd :/ Feb 10 18:09:59 *nod* Feb 10 18:22:18 hmm guys, where do I have to bump PR if I want to rebuild all EFL stuff locally? Feb 10 18:35:41 mrmoku: if it gets built, i can get a card and install shr again and test, my n900 is just back from mb replacement Feb 10 18:59:26 DocScrutinizer: ah, now i found it. the docs actually describe the GPS subsystem, it's just called Modem LCS (Location Server) there Feb 10 18:59:45 WOOHOOO!! Feb 10 18:59:53 :-> Feb 10 18:59:58 looks actually quite straight forward on first glance Feb 10 19:00:06 AGPS? Feb 10 19:00:09 yo Feb 10 19:00:16 coooooool shit!!! Feb 10 19:00:31 mickey|bbl: RTK? Feb 10 19:00:38 * lindi- hides Feb 10 19:00:42 what's rtk? Feb 10 19:00:56 I'll credit you while posting this exciting news to #maemo :-) Feb 10 19:01:03 oh well Feb 10 19:01:07 don't be happy too early Feb 10 19:01:14 why? Feb 10 19:01:14 mickey|bbl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Time_Kinematic Feb 10 19:01:19 i have found significant differences between the documented subsystems and the actual implementation in N900 Feb 10 19:01:31 ah it as n900 Feb 10 19:01:34 then no rtk afaik Feb 10 19:01:42 :-S Feb 10 19:01:53 (since you can't have external antenna) Feb 10 19:02:11 so although the basic interaction is documented, the data structure might need work Feb 10 19:02:21 i'll first tackle call handling though Feb 10 19:07:22 mickey|bbl: any pointer, like docs-version/filename, §, page? Feb 10 19:09:43 g2, i_modem_lcs_fp.pdf Feb 10 19:10:29 thanks :-) Feb 10 19:11:50 [Rui], do you have a link to the identi.ca API you're using? Feb 10 19:16:49 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgisi * rd45423a3f4c5 10/data/libgisi.vapi: vapi: add call subsystem constants Feb 10 19:33:29 aha! Feb 10 19:33:37 gisicomm-Message: gisicomm.vala:883: <[PN_CALL (1) v007.020]: OK, id = 0x3> received Feb 10 19:33:38 gisicomm-Message: gisicomm.vala:888: <[PN_CALL (1) v007.020]: OK, id = 0x5> received Feb 10 19:35:47 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgisi * r7b5c62d2b4b2 10/ (data/libgisi.vapi gisicomm/gisicomm.vala tests/testping.vala): gisicomm: add Call client, listen to COMING and MT_ALERT indications Feb 10 19:40:28 mickey|bbl: wow :-) Feb 10 19:41:32 hi mrmoku mickey|bbl Feb 10 19:41:41 nothing to be too much impressed yet, but it's a first step. pending audio problems, i think my time frame estimate for voice calls still holds :) Feb 10 19:42:07 indeed I expect audio problems too Feb 10 19:42:22 specially bad call sound quality Feb 10 19:42:23 call control alone will take ~ 2 weeks or so. someone else needs to handle audio Feb 10 19:43:31 ok Feb 10 19:48:25 ISI is quite nice actually Feb 10 19:49:50 apart from the gazillions of constants and the undocumented subsystems (for which the protocol inventor is probably not guilty for), it at least has some structure Feb 10 19:52:07 <[Rui]> playya: sorry, semi-afk, it's twitter api with statusnet extensions where aplicable. Feb 10 19:52:30 yes. i'm reading your bug report Feb 10 19:52:40 i think that's my problem atm Feb 10 19:53:28 mickey|bbl: darn, what's been the URL of that ofono/ISI specs? Feb 10 19:54:14 DocScrutinizer: guess it's the one you have to register for Feb 10 19:54:21 <[Rui]> yay for hirizontal mode http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/56931 Feb 10 19:54:21 yes Feb 10 19:54:39 but I can't find it Feb 10 19:55:21 might try to search my 100.000 mails for the login credentials, hoping it would mention the URL as well Feb 10 19:55:25 http://www.wirelessmodemapi.com Feb 10 19:55:33 THANKS!!! :-D Feb 10 19:55:36 yw :) Feb 10 19:55:52 * mrmoku keeps his credentials in a good place ;) Feb 10 20:07:35 GNUtoo|laptop, http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/d52b478846a19f0f63a100a0fab30a58.png :) Feb 10 20:08:00 :) Feb 10 20:08:13 pespin, send oe patches Feb 10 20:08:17 else it get lost Feb 10 20:08:29 ok Feb 10 20:08:39 GNUtoo|laptop, http://pespin.espeweb.net/patches/0001-htcartemis-add-new-machine-configuration-kernel-and-.patch Feb 10 20:09:13 pespin, split it Feb 10 20:09:30 one patch for htc artemis.conf Feb 10 20:09:35 GNUtoo|laptop, and this one, but you have to tell me the good way to do it so I don't break other shr devices -> http://pespin.espeweb.net/patches/0002-xorg-xserver-common.inc-change-DISTRO_XORG_CONFIG_MA.patch Feb 10 20:09:36 one patch for the kernel Feb 10 20:09:41 and one patch for xorg.conf Feb 10 20:10:01 and one patch for shr-image.conf Feb 10 20:10:25 the xorg.conf lack the PR bump Feb 10 20:10:43 GNUtoo|laptop, it's in the 2n one Feb 10 20:10:49 I think Feb 10 20:11:10 ok Feb 10 20:11:27 it's not Feb 10 20:11:40 xorg configuration is a separate package/recipe Feb 10 20:12:09 hmm ok Feb 10 20:12:29 GNUtoo|laptop, which is the best way to split the patches with git? Feb 10 20:12:48 you have formated the patch Feb 10 20:12:51 so... Feb 10 20:12:56 create a new branch Feb 10 20:13:01 git apply them Feb 10 20:13:08 and re-do the commit messages etc... Feb 10 20:13:31 git apply applies the changes but not the commit message Feb 10 20:13:38 ok, I'll go for dinner and try it after, thanks :) Feb 10 20:14:13 ok Feb 10 20:15:13 GNUtoo|laptop, what about the 2nd patch? Feb 10 20:15:26 because I'm overriding an shr generic value Feb 10 20:15:28 ask for help in oe mailing list Feb 10 20:15:33 "udev" -> "" Feb 10 20:15:48 ok I'll ask after dinner in irc first Feb 10 20:15:48 I bet your mdev patch will be refused too Feb 10 20:15:57 hm why? Feb 10 20:15:58 but I bet you will get help on making udev work Feb 10 20:16:07 or at least pointers Feb 10 20:17:29 * pespin dinner Feb 10 20:19:00 which kernel do you guys now boot in shr on n900? Feb 10 20:20:14 <[Rui]> TAsn: got the tasklist apparently working, but still with a huge known memory leak (to be fixed later tonight). Feb 10 20:31:43 vanous, do you have an n900? Feb 10 20:32:15 if you want to develop for it you should look after a 2.6.37 version where I don't know how to make DVFS work Feb 10 20:32:28 if you simply want to use it you should revert to 2.6.28 Feb 10 20:32:32 GNUtoo|laptop: got it before christmass but my car charger blew the charging circuit and it took the service 6 week the get new motherboard, but finally again, yes, i have it Feb 10 20:32:41 wow Feb 10 20:33:57 GNUtoo|laptop: i got it working before christmass according to your manual :) but now i have vaguely been not following it, as i just thought i stick a good config for multiboot and copy an appropriate kernel to /boot/multiboot Feb 10 20:34:13 ah I don't multiboot Feb 10 20:34:16 I only run SHR Feb 10 20:34:41 I'm even on NAND Feb 10 20:34:41 well, it's my work phone so i need both Feb 10 20:34:46 ah ok Feb 10 20:34:58 ask JaMa then Feb 10 20:35:02 he multiboots Feb 10 20:35:08 you could use uboot Feb 10 20:35:13 that is chainloaded Feb 10 20:35:55 ok Feb 10 20:37:51 seems simple enough Feb 10 20:37:54 will give it a go Feb 10 20:44:43 vanous: yup, +1 for uboot - using it here Feb 10 20:44:55 ok Feb 10 20:45:02 just uninstalling multiboot Feb 10 20:45:20 i guess i need power kernel flashed by default to have uboot support Feb 10 20:45:50 vanous: no, you don't need it Feb 10 20:46:01 default kernel would do? Feb 10 20:46:06 yup Feb 10 20:46:19 cool Feb 10 20:46:21 thanks Feb 10 20:46:34 vanous: but don't use u-boot from repos Feb 10 20:46:48 it doesn't have ext support IIRC Feb 10 20:47:00 huh, ok, which one then? Feb 10 20:47:27 vanous: JaMa was building it, it should be somewhere at build.shr-project.org Feb 10 20:47:33 ok Feb 10 20:47:36 will look it up Feb 10 20:47:58 vanous: if you want more details, you have to ask JaMa (or find IRC logs when he was explaining it to me :D) Feb 10 20:48:01 i can see some stuff Feb 10 20:48:09 in Jamas tests http://build.shr-project.org/tests/jama/u-boot/ Feb 10 21:44:18 <[Rui]> playya: it seems there's lots of bugs with statusnet 0.9.7 which is what identi.ca has recently moved to, one of them breaks since_id (which elmdentica uses extensively in the timelines) Feb 10 21:45:00 ok. this patch fixes one of these changes Feb 10 21:46:18 do you know user where profile_background_image_url is set? Feb 10 21:49:43 <[Rui]> playya: yeah, I had that as a string until they fixed, I didn't notice they updated it already... they did say "soon" :) Feb 10 21:50:20 <[Rui]> the problem with Azy is that if a parameter exists in the result, then the type MUST be correct, or it will completely fail to recognize the struct. Feb 10 21:50:44 <[Rui]> it's a problem but at the same time it's better to fail, otherwise it could match other structs Feb 10 21:51:45 maybe azy needs a critical = false or default_value=foo message Feb 10 21:51:52 s/message/annotation/ Feb 10 21:51:53 playya meant: maybe azy needs a critical = false or default_value=foo annotation Feb 10 21:52:22 mickey|bbl: talked with javispedro about ofono, gdbus, connman. Common notion is it smells terribly like NIH Feb 10 22:02:31 <[Rui]> default vsl not needed. Feb 10 22:02:51 lansing, huckabee and similar scum, don't come here! Here *YOU* are enemy combatants and free for an unadvertised kill Feb 10 22:03:18 <[Rui]> playya: you can just test the value and act accordingly (eg, null => "default", 0 => 10, etc...) Feb 10 22:03:29 GNUtoo|laptop, http://pespin.espeweb.net/patches/artemis/ Feb 10 22:05:27 do wifi bluetooth phone etc... work? Feb 10 22:05:35 that install more packages Feb 10 22:05:37 for instance Feb 10 22:05:40 wireless-utils Feb 10 22:05:44 that's done in the tasks Feb 10 22:05:55 if you add useless ones you've got a bigger image Feb 10 22:06:07 I haven't tried yet. Feb 10 22:06:10 then try Feb 10 22:06:43 remove the useless comments: Feb 10 22:06:44 +# Possibly need something like this to do post installation configuration Feb 10 22:06:47 I still need to solve the xorg "udev"->"" issue and upload proper patch too Feb 10 22:06:48 +# of the image Feb 10 22:06:55 +#ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND += " remove_init_link; " Feb 10 22:06:56 yes Feb 10 22:07:01 ok Feb 10 22:07:12 for that send the mdev patch and ask what to do on the oe ml Feb 10 22:07:23 GNUtoo|laptop, can I remove them directly in the patch file without "breaking" it Feb 10 22:07:24 ? Feb 10 22:07:26 does your linux kenrel run? Feb 10 22:07:30 yes Feb 10 22:07:37 re-do the patch like this Feb 10 22:07:48 I still need to sort out how to generate the initramfs though Feb 10 22:07:54 which is needed by haret Feb 10 22:07:55 vim conf/machine/htcartemis.conf Feb 10 22:08:01 git add conf/machine/htcartemis.conf Feb 10 22:08:03 git commit Feb 10 22:08:18 write a fake commit message Feb 10 22:08:21 like Feb 10 22:08:22 MERGE THAT Feb 10 22:08:25 then Feb 10 22:08:26 do Feb 10 22:08:36 git rebase -i HEAD~5 Feb 10 22:08:42 and follow the instructions Feb 10 22:08:44 however Feb 10 22:08:46 do that before Feb 10 22:08:49 save your branch Feb 10 22:08:52 so do Feb 10 22:08:58 git checkout -b newbranch Feb 10 22:09:36 clean a bit your patches also Feb 10 22:09:38 for instance xorg Feb 10 22:09:54 xorg.conf has some useless calibration stuff commented Feb 10 22:10:09 s/your/your xorg Feb 10 22:11:41 [Rui], is it possible to stay on top of the message list, if it was on top? Feb 10 22:23:12 GNUtoo|laptop, btw where do I need to change so xf86-video-fbdev gets in the image? Feb 10 22:24:08 <[Rui]> playya: I didn't understand your question Feb 10 22:24:45 yes Feb 10 22:24:50 look how htcdream does it Feb 10 22:24:59 if I'm on top of the message list and receive an autoupdate, i want to scroll up Feb 10 22:25:03 <[Rui]> ah Feb 10 22:25:06 it's in the machine config Feb 10 22:25:26 <[Rui]> you can tell a genlist item to be displayed (and it will move the genlist to that item) Feb 10 22:25:56 <[Rui]> elm_genlist_item_show(gli) Feb 10 22:27:37 it might be annoying if this happens while reading a message somewhere else Feb 10 22:28:25 <[Rui]> yup, which is why I didn't worry to much about it. Feb 10 22:29:17 ok. but the peridical update works Feb 10 22:29:25 <[Rui]> cool! :) Feb 10 22:33:10 GNUtoo|laptop, do you know how to generate initramfs needed by haret? Feb 10 22:33:19 dos1: are you here? Feb 10 22:33:43 GNUtoo|laptop, it needs a "initramfs.cpio.gz" file Feb 10 22:34:09 dos1: if you don't select anything in uboot, do you get the noloboot starting default kernel? Feb 10 22:35:01 vanous: i'll send you my u-boot with config - keyboard closed -> noloboot, keyboard open -> sdboot Feb 10 22:35:06 but tommorow, now i have to go Feb 10 22:35:13 please ping me Feb 10 22:35:14 cya Feb 10 22:35:17