**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 02 02:59:57 2011 Mar 02 06:13:45 moin Mar 02 06:14:03 moin Mar 02 06:18:21 alexxy: ping Mar 02 06:37:45 moin Mar 02 06:38:18 moin Mar 02 06:38:29 * PaulFertser is pretending he's local here Mar 02 06:38:48 PaulFertser: i was about to do/say the same. :X Mar 02 06:39:57 n4cht: wired headset will have the unfixable buzz problem with a high probability :/ Mar 02 06:43:03 PaulFertser: looks like it will be a wifi-remote then. lol. that is, if i can ever get debian to actually boot. Mar 02 06:44:12 * PaulFertser is using Debian as his only distro on his only cellphone for more than two years already :) Mar 02 06:45:53 afaik debian installed properly... the install script finished with no errors... but instead of booting from debian on SD, it still boots SHR. when i hold aux+power, and select "boot from SD" it complains that there's no uImage.bin on the SD card and then takes me back to the menu. Mar 02 06:47:02 n4cht: you should learn more about boot options then, about Qi and u-boot and about pressing AUX. As a general rule, do not boot full system from NOR if you plan to actually use it, use NOR only for emergency or DFU flashing. Mar 02 06:48:10 PaulFertser: i'm just following the instructions. "If using Qi, just press power button to boot from SD card, ie. Debian (alternatively use the red LED indicator light + AUX button to select bootable partition). " Mar 02 06:49:17 oh sure NOW it boots. Mar 02 06:49:44 i did shutdown -h now, pressed power, and it boots debian instead of SHR now Mar 02 06:49:55 LOL Mar 02 06:49:59 what a pity :-P Mar 02 06:51:37 does qi boot a normal NAND image? Or are the uImage names different for NAND as well? Mar 02 06:53:49 it boots debian and then just sits at login prompt. trying to SSH over USB but it fails. wrong host key. Mar 02 06:55:18 oh wait.. doh.. i know why! it's trying to use the old host key from SHR! Mar 02 06:57:52 PaulFertser: you *might* be able to block buzz from wired headsert Mar 02 06:58:30 ferrite block in plug Mar 02 07:01:18 I've been pondering a constant voltage amp in hedaset Mar 02 07:06:19 I.E. use a PNP superdarlington and operate mic from a locally stabilzed voltage and feed the mic output to darlington base, so emitter-collector creates a 1.4V higer voltage from tip to gnd than the mic signal Mar 02 07:12:14 horrah. i am in via SSH. only problem is.. i figured out why it didn't boot X... when i tried 'startx', it tries to and then eventually says something along the lines of /usr/bin/X not found Mar 02 07:13:29 exec: 3: /usr/bin/X: not found < ls -l /usr/bin/X ;-D Mar 02 07:16:32 ls: cannot access /usr/bin/X: No such file or directory Mar 02 07:39:43 okay. i give up. it keeps putting me at a login prompt every boot. QtMoko it is then. Mar 02 08:10:06 <[Rui]> moin Mar 02 08:10:36 loin Mar 02 08:10:44 :X Mar 02 08:14:22 DocScrutinizer51: Qi boots same kernel image from that nand kernel partition (just don't read jffs2 to look into /boot directory in nand image) Mar 02 08:23:31 is it normal after doing NAND install of qtmoko for it to just hang for a long time at a screen with the openmoko logo and an orange gradient bar at the bottom? Mar 02 08:23:57 or is that indicative of a failed install? Mar 02 08:46:09 i do like that you guys use 'moin'. my family immigrated from buxtehude to the USA right before i was born, so 'moin' is a pretty typical greeting with us. Mar 02 08:46:21 made me feel right at home. Mar 02 08:53:51 Load avg: 12.7, 10.5, 8.6 and full backup on background, arrrgh Mar 02 08:54:18 * JaMa needs cpu nitro button Mar 02 09:31:11 * n4cht sighs. Mar 02 09:31:22 and qtmoko won't boot. so... hackable.1 time. Mar 02 09:31:40 hopefully hackable:1 will boot fine. Mar 02 09:33:59 n4cht: you are switching distros every hour? ;) Mar 02 09:55:46 lindi-: it's not switching distros when none of them have successfully booted. Mar 02 09:56:12 debian: only boots to login prompt. qtmoko: doesn't boot at all. hopefully hackable:1 will boot. Mar 02 09:57:39 SHR was one i never intended to use.. i only flashed that so i could run the debian install script. Mar 02 09:58:19 n4cht: that is switching distros :) Mar 02 09:58:44 lindi-: i'll count it as switching distros as soon as one of them actually *works*. Mar 02 09:58:47 :) Mar 02 10:00:09 if i can't get any of them to boot properly, i'm just going to cross-compile gentoo and use that. i'm a gentoo user anyway, just trying to a debian-based distro on my phone as a time saver. binary package installation is always going to be faster than compiling from source via portage. Mar 02 10:01:55 n4cht: X in debian is in motion right now, nobody has fixed xserver-xorg-video-glamo yet Mar 02 10:02:05 n4cht: keep in mind that you are installing unstable... Mar 02 10:03:23 i've never been a big fan of debian for day-to-day use. i love debian-based distros for servers though. i run a hosting service and a livejournal-like blogging site for gamers, and all three of my servers run ubuntu. my home system, though, is gentoo. Mar 02 10:25:05 hackable:1 >> openmoko logo like qtmoko... and then.. it's trying to boot! wish me luck! Mar 02 10:25:50 hackable:1 splash screen and progress bar! i think gnome is actually going to boot! Mar 02 10:26:31 boot=load* Mar 02 10:27:15 mrmoku: after every phonefsod upgrade there is long phonefsod.conf diff full of removed spaces arround '=' (s/log_level = INFO/log_level=INFO/g), I guess it's removed in _write_pdp_credentials_to_config etc, should I remove it from initial config or change _write_pdp_credentials_to_config to keep spaces? Mar 02 10:28:26 progress bar completed, disappeared, and gnome loaded! SUCCESS! Mar 02 10:31:03 mrmoku: cannot find flag for it in GKeyFileFlags, so first looks easier :) Mar 02 10:31:44 now i just need to figure out how to get to the wifi setup on hackable:1 ... i thought the gears in the bottom right would be a settings menu, but only a blank menu appears. the wifi icon in the 'tray' does nothing either. Mar 02 10:38:58 hi mrmoku Mar 02 10:39:08 how can I change that file: Mar 02 10:39:51 /usr/share/themes/shr-theme-gtk-e17lookalike/gtk-2.0/gtkrc Mar 02 10:40:00 it's part of a theme something Mar 02 10:40:13 it's referenced in shr-themes.inc or something like that Mar 02 10:40:28 but what recipe creates it? Mar 02 10:41:48 mrmoku: pong Mar 02 10:41:48 =) Mar 02 10:43:28 grr. ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused .... can't set up wifi in hackable:1 Mar 02 10:45:01 whew. there it goes. Mar 02 10:45:18 just had to drop usb0 and bring it back up Mar 02 10:45:19 n4cht, 202 Mar 02 10:45:28 200 is your laptop Mar 02 10:45:31 202 is your phone Mar 02 10:46:18 n4cht, how is hackable:1? is it still developed? Mar 02 10:46:47 GNUtoo|laptop: lol.. yeah. i pasted the wrong line. i did 202 as well and got the same thing until i brought usb0 down and then back up. Mar 02 10:47:14 ah ok Mar 02 10:48:03 GNUtoo|laptop: i have no idea. so far it's the only debian-based distro to successfully boot on my freerunner though, so i may maintain hackable:1 for personal use (and maybe even release my work as a fork if i make any significant changes) Mar 02 10:48:26 ok Mar 02 10:48:58 they have an irc channel btw Mar 02 10:48:59 #hackable1 Mar 02 10:49:26 i was wondering about that. didn't see it on their wiki. Mar 02 10:50:17 GNUtoo|laptop, lindi- ... you two have been very helpful. thank you for being so patient with my nonsense, and thank you for being very welcoming. i appreciate it. Mar 02 10:52:44 * n4cht sighs. Mar 02 10:53:56 No DHCPOFFERS received. << dhclient eth1 after setting essid. turned off all wireless security on my router for the time being for ease of use with various devices, and just blocking the MAC of anyone abusing it. Mar 02 10:57:33 JaMa: yeah, remove the spaces from the original config Mar 02 10:57:52 GNUtoo|laptop: hmm... have to check Mar 02 10:57:54 alexxy: upgrade Mar 02 10:58:00 done Mar 02 10:58:01 =) Mar 02 10:58:06 already Mar 02 10:58:13 but what was changed? Mar 02 10:58:13 then you have a working phone again? Mar 02 10:58:18 yep Mar 02 10:58:19 seems Mar 02 10:58:32 somehow startup timing changed Mar 02 10:58:49 YES! got it connected finally! Mar 02 10:58:52 and phonefsod failed to show the pin dialog via phoneuid Mar 02 10:58:57 and did never retry Mar 02 10:59:51 GNUtoo|laptop: 0022 mok@gonzales[pts/8]:~/shrbuild/openembedded/recipes/shr-> ls gtk-theme/ Mar 02 10:59:54 gtkrc.gtk-theme-neo gtkrc.shr-theme-gtk-e17lookalike Mar 02 11:02:09 yes I have that too Mar 02 11:02:47 but the problem is that I've no gtk-theme_git.bb Mar 02 11:03:03 only gtk-theme-neo_git.bb Mar 02 11:03:08 and gtk-theme.inc Mar 02 11:03:26 GNUtoo|laptop: shr-theme-gtk-e17lookalike_git.bb Mar 02 11:03:34 would be my guess Mar 02 11:03:44 ah ok Mar 02 11:03:48 I missed that one Mar 02 11:04:15 the override is in oe? Mar 02 11:04:24 or in the shr repo? Mar 02 11:09:07 GNUtoo|laptop: any ideas on the issue i just mentioned in #hackable1 ? Mar 02 11:11:48 weird. when i try to ping the ip it was assigned by dhcp from another machine on the network, i get "desination host unreachable" ... so apparently it's *not* properly connected to my router. Mar 02 11:12:52 and again.. took it down, brought it up.. fixed. Mar 02 11:12:54 so weird. Mar 02 11:17:30 brb . store Mar 02 11:38:40 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07phonefsod * rddb0534ca4f7 10/data/phonefsod.conf: phonefsod.conf: remove spaces Mar 02 11:55:10 mrmoku, mickey|office: we should discuss plans for meta-shr layer, do we want all shr/freesmartphone/openmoko-3rdparty recipes only in meta-shr or try to move some parts to meta-openembedded? Mar 02 11:55:55 * methril_work gets happy due to meta-shr layer!!! Mar 02 11:56:09 * methril_work would like to have more time to help you Mar 02 11:57:36 JaMa: I don't even know all apps in there Mar 02 11:58:27 methril_work: I feel the oposite :/ but it has to be done in order to keep with OE HEAD Mar 02 11:59:00 mrmoku: I would take only those which are already included in shr-full-image and some from feed Mar 02 11:59:01 JaMa, why you feel the opposite? so much work to be done? Mar 02 12:00:15 JaMa, when are you going to start the transition? Mar 02 12:00:18 methril_work: additional work, higher entry level for contributors, harder to track changes, duplicate work if you don't watch all other layers for usefull stuff Mar 02 12:01:04 methril_work: ie angstrom is already working with oe-core, so we should start working on something soon Mar 02 12:01:23 JaMa: as much as acceptable into meta-oe I would say ;) Mar 02 12:01:49 methril_work: otherwise we risk being stuck with old oe master while new stuff will be in oe-core Mar 02 12:01:53 JaMa, i`ll try to take a look tonight at home Mar 02 12:02:08 JaMa, ans see how i could help on this Mar 02 12:02:17 methril_work: ie OE 2011.06 relase should be oe-core+meta-openembedded Mar 02 12:02:49 so to work with oe-core+metada we have to be in oe master branch? Mar 02 12:03:21 we're in oe master branch now Mar 02 12:04:21 but stuff from current openembedded repo won't go to http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/meta-openembedded/ automatically Mar 02 12:04:41 someone has to migrate it Mar 02 12:08:23 os there a way to make sure my freerunner is using eth1 for internet? it's connected to my router, it has an ip via DHCP, and i can ping my freerunner from other machines, but i can't do anything from the freerunner.. and i suspect that it's trying to use usb0 for outbound connections instead of eht1. Mar 02 12:08:28 eth1* Mar 02 12:40:32 alexxy, hi, do you know if sms receipts are working now? I don't have much time to try it and afaik you may be using it ;) Mar 02 13:05:29 pespin: probably not :/ Mar 02 13:09:32 mrmoku, still problems with opimd/fsogsmd? Mar 02 13:16:04 pespin: guess the situation is unchanged Mar 02 13:16:15 last thing I remember is that dos1 wanted to take a look Mar 02 13:16:23 which probably did not happen yet ;) Mar 02 13:16:28 yeah, same here Mar 02 13:21:17 JaMa, I'd like to override gtk-theme/gtkrc.shr-theme-gtk-e17lookalike but shr-theme-gtk-e17lookalike_git.bb is PACKAGE_ARCH = "all" Mar 02 13:21:22 what should I do between: Mar 02 13:21:29 *overriding only for dream Mar 02 13:21:39 *MACHINE=ARCH for everyone Mar 02 13:22:09 do we need a different gtkrc for the other machines? Mar 02 13:22:17 such as palmpre and nokia n900 Mar 02 13:22:27 the nokia900 has issues with fonts that are too big Mar 02 13:27:11 GNUtoo|laptop: mmt I'll change few things to make it easier to add Mar 02 13:27:30 ok thanks a lot Mar 02 13:40:03 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-themes * r5c01117b97ab 10/gtk/ (100 files in 26 dirs): rename shr-theme-gtk-e17lookalike to gtk-theme-e17lookalike Mar 02 13:51:07 hmm... getting libgisi on gta02 sounds wrong too :P Mar 02 13:58:25 GNUtoo|laptop: now you can add recipes/shr/gtk-theme-e17lookalike/htcdream/gtkrc and just this file will switch PACKAGE_ARCH=MACHINE_ARCH and only for htcdream Mar 02 13:58:56 ok nice Mar 02 13:59:45 GNUtoo|laptop: don't forget to update theme name in gtkrc Mar 02 13:59:58 ? Mar 02 14:00:34 rename shr-theme-gtk-e17lookalike to gtk-theme-e17lookalike Mar 02 14:01:04 mrmoku: can we move /usr/lib/cornucopia/modules/fsogsm/modem_nokia_isi.so to separate package? Mar 02 14:01:25 mrmoku: or build it conditionally like we do with palmpre modem Mar 02 14:02:27 JaMa: the second sounds better to me... Mar 02 14:02:31 mickey|office: what do you think? Mar 02 14:02:41 ok I'll try Mar 02 14:04:02 mrmoku: agreed, pushing right modem to fsogsmd RDEPENDS would be as much logic as forcing right configure options Mar 02 14:06:37 mrmoku: wrt meta-shr, maybe it would be easier to merge everything to meta-shr first (and build first shr images from it and then try to merge usefull bits to meta-openembedded) Mar 02 14:07:01 at one point of time the modules should be packaged individually, to save space Mar 02 14:07:05 not now though Mar 02 14:07:18 JaMa, there is something that I don't understand: Mar 02 14:07:21 feel free to add --enable-modem-nokia-isi to EXTRA_CFLAGS_nokia900 Mar 02 14:07:50 /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc is what get installed by shr-theme-gtk-e17lookalike Mar 02 14:08:12 but there is also an /usr/share/themes/shr-theme-gtk-e17lookalike/gtk-2.0/gtkrc Mar 02 14:08:14 wrt. fonts, make sure that the DPI setting is correct Mar 02 14:08:14 mrmoku: because we can host meta-shr in our git with our requirements and then when it's in good shape start with pusing it to meta-openembedded with their rules and maybe pull model Mar 02 14:08:24 what's the difference between both Mar 02 14:08:28 is /usr/share/themes/shr-theme-gtk-e17lookalike/gtk-2.0/gtkrc generated? Mar 02 14:08:38 GNUtoo|laptop: this one is from repo Mar 02 14:08:56 ah which one should I change if I want to change the fonts then? Mar 02 14:09:04 GNUtoo|laptop: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr-themes.git;a=blob_plain;f=gtk/gtk-theme-e17lookalike/gtkrc Mar 02 14:09:16 ok Mar 02 14:09:32 http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr-themes.git;a=blob_plain;f=gtk/gtk-theme-e17lookalike/gtkrc is what I changed on target,manually Mar 02 14:09:35 it works Mar 02 14:09:41 and change the one in OE Mar 02 14:09:50 and? Mar 02 14:09:55 ok I change the oe one Mar 02 14:09:58 and that's all? Mar 02 14:09:58 I think it should work Mar 02 14:10:04 ok thanks a lot Mar 02 14:10:11 s/change/add/ Mar 02 14:10:11 JaMa: ok, agree Mar 02 14:10:19 yes I understood Mar 02 14:10:47 mickey|office: if the goal is to split out modules per arch... we can as well live with it Mar 02 14:10:58 mrmoku: creating repo is just adding it to gitosis.conf? Mar 02 14:11:21 JaMa: almost Mar 02 14:11:28 a) add to gitosis.conf Mar 02 14:11:37 can you please create meta-shr for me? :) Mar 02 14:11:42 ok :) Mar 02 14:11:49 mrmoku: ideally i'd like to see all plugins of a subsystem packaged seperately as e.g. fsodeviced-module-kernel26-backlight.ipkg Mar 02 14:12:10 for that to work we then need additional metapackages then that list which modules are important for which OE device Mar 02 14:12:32 which is why i'd postpone that Mar 02 14:12:44 mrmoku: not sure what we do with shr-t/shr-u with meta-shr :/ Mar 02 14:12:50 HeinervdmOff: ^^ any idea? Mar 02 14:13:11 mrmoku: I guess there wont be any shr-testing branch in oe-core repo Mar 02 14:14:18 mrmoku: so shr-t maintainer can pick oe-core meta-openembedded releases/revisions and stick with it and alter everything needed from meta-shr/shr-testing-2011.X branch Mar 02 14:16:22 mickey|office: that's just packaging work in OE, right? Mar 02 14:17:52 JaMa: ok, done Mar 02 14:18:12 mrmoku: thanks Mar 02 14:18:13 JaMa: (shr-t) yeah Mar 02 14:18:33 doomed though when there is something that needs fixing in one of the upper layers... Mar 02 14:18:44 well... can as well copy and modify a recipe then, no? Mar 02 14:22:11 yes with some .bbappend magic Mar 02 14:22:15 mrmoku: yes Mar 02 14:22:29 or copy changed version too Mar 02 14:23:01 but for me it still looks really error prone :/ Mar 02 14:34:03 JaMa: yes that will be a bit more complicated Mar 02 14:34:41 JaMa: but i think we can wait until the next testing version to think about this problem Mar 02 14:36:10 HeinervdmOff: agreed, I was just thinking if meta-shr branches are enough Mar 02 14:36:49 HeinervdmOff: before preparing new sets of Makefile changes to checkout and setup all needed layers Mar 02 15:05:09 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-makefile * r0a216fa22fad 10/Makefile: Makefile: fix OE_BRANCH/BRANCH_OE Mar 02 15:05:09 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-makefile * rc6b8ab32a1d2 10/Makefile: Makefile: rename remaining *_BRANCH/BRANCH_* Mar 02 15:05:09 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-makefile * r50449965ba83 10/Makefile: Makefile: rename SHR_*_OE_BRANCH/BRANCH_OE_SHR_* Mar 02 15:36:20 hehe noxchat Mar 02 16:20:42 | * satisfy_dependencies_for: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-shr-gtk: Mar 02 16:20:42 | * libpanelw * libpanelw * Mar 02 16:20:49 bitbake shr-image for dream did that Mar 02 16:25:22 ha ncurses Mar 02 16:35:53 bitbake -g doesn't find a clue Mar 02 16:35:57 same for bitbake -e Mar 02 16:36:11 bitbake ncurses didn't fix it Mar 02 16:36:13 and I've : Mar 02 16:36:22 ./armv6-novfp/libpanelw5_5.7+20110115-r16.6_armv6-novfp.ipk Mar 02 16:36:28 so I've no clue what to rebuild Mar 02 16:36:33 JaMa, ^^^ Mar 02 16:37:44 I clean task-shr-gtk Mar 02 16:37:57 *tash-shr Mar 02 16:39:25 maybe I should try blindly Mar 02 16:39:28 and bet on pidgin Mar 02 16:39:36 since pidgin has also an ncurses client Mar 02 16:42:25 same issue Mar 02 16:42:30 with cleaning task-shr Mar 02 16:42:34 what should I do? Mar 02 16:42:47 try cleaning and rebuilding pidgin Mar 02 16:42:52 that doesn't make any sense Mar 02 16:45:41 I'm fed-up I do a light image Mar 02 16:47:42 I'll rebuild pidgin afeter Mar 02 16:48:52 according to my install pidgin depend on libpanelw Mar 02 17:09:09 JaMa, are you *sure* about gtkrc? Mar 02 17:09:16 it seem not to work as previsted Mar 02 17:15:27 JaMa, it didn't work Mar 02 17:15:34 I'll make some screenshots Mar 02 17:27:29 heyho Mar 02 17:29:52 hi Mar 02 17:30:05 how much time an shr-lite-image can take to configure? Mar 02 17:33:11 GNUtoo|laptop, by configuring you mean building in OE? or "tweaking to be usable by someone" ? Mar 02 17:34:39 no Mar 02 17:34:43 I mean opkg configure Mar 02 17:34:53 right after booting the image Mar 02 17:34:59 there is a 40-configure script Mar 02 17:35:04 that configures the packages Mar 02 17:35:10 it's deleted after Mar 02 17:35:40 right now it's 5min that it's configuring Mar 02 17:35:53 I've no output whatever for knowing what's happening Mar 02 17:35:53 GNUtoo|laptop, it shouldn't take so much time, but it can vary depending on the device Mar 02 17:36:41 GNUtoo|laptop, more than 1-2 min is too much I think Mar 02 17:36:49 so what should I do Mar 02 17:36:50 ? Mar 02 17:37:02 try framebuffer console? Mar 02 17:37:07 GNUtoo|laptop, in which device is happening? Mar 02 17:37:12 dream Mar 02 17:37:23 note that the configure script was moved recently Mar 02 17:37:41 GNUtoo|laptop, is ssh running? Mar 02 17:37:41 moved means S40 instead of S85 Mar 02 17:37:43 no Mar 02 17:37:47 can't ping Mar 02 17:38:00 that's why Mar 02 17:38:03 and worse than all Mar 02 17:38:08 I'm in a very bad mood Mar 02 17:38:19 yeah, that's always bad ;) Mar 02 17:38:23 hmm Mar 02 17:38:40 GNUtoo|laptop, restarting the device does restart the configure? Mar 02 17:41:36 pespin: if configure not finished, it should Mar 02 17:43:17 well, then I suggest writting some kind of script to log data and try seeing what happens. Maybe change networking/ssh init scripts to run before s40 and then you could have ssh Mar 02 17:45:18 though it would probably be faster I think Mar 02 17:45:24 big part of config is opkg-cl configure Mar 02 17:45:36 and what opkg already did it does not have to do again Mar 02 17:46:04 for palmpre it takes about 30s ~ 1min Mar 02 17:50:24 pespin, no it abrts Mar 02 17:50:29 it's already 20min Mar 02 17:50:39 since I started counting Mar 02 17:50:40 GNUtoo|laptop, what aborts? Mar 02 17:50:45 the opkg configure Mar 02 17:51:34 I'm fed up Mar 02 17:51:38 I'll reboot Mar 02 17:52:07 GNUtoo|laptop: are you sure it's hanging at configure? Mar 02 17:52:21 sigh it rebooted Mar 02 17:52:26 no idea Mar 02 17:52:33 but I did that yesterday Mar 02 17:52:37 I made an RFC Mar 02 17:52:43 for moving the S98configure Mar 02 17:52:57 someone picked that RFC and pushed it Mar 02 17:53:01 now it's rebooting Mar 02 17:53:03 again Mar 02 17:53:09 I've the logo tough Mar 02 17:53:22 so it's finding the rootfs Mar 02 17:55:51 mickeyl: ping Mar 02 17:57:41 hm, how do I disable the X cursor? Mar 02 17:57:52 I already set HWCursor and SWCursor to false Mar 02 17:58:24 but from time to time a black cross comes on the screen as cursor Mar 02 18:03:44 GNUtoo|laptop: you know how to do so? Mar 02 18:04:03 yes Mar 02 18:05:17 it's in the scripts for X Mar 02 18:05:21 the ones that starts it Mar 02 18:05:26 I don't remember were tough Mar 02 18:06:15 add -nocursor somewhere Mar 02 18:06:18 or grep for it Mar 02 18:07:20 morphis, palm stuff failed Mar 02 18:08:06 GNUtoo|laptop: why? Mar 02 18:08:22 I'll forward it Mar 02 18:08:29 basically I had no app in palm's stuff Mar 02 18:08:52 what? Mar 02 18:09:05 I have no app in palm store too Mar 02 18:09:45 I'll send the mail Mar 02 18:10:03 it's not attached because he responded before the quote which contained some of my personal infos Mar 02 18:10:11 so I've just included the repsponse Mar 02 18:10:13 not the quote Mar 02 18:10:39 ok, arrived Mar 02 18:10:42 I will write to him Mar 02 18:10:46 maybe he really want screenshots Mar 02 18:10:48 and verify what you said Mar 02 18:10:51 no Mar 02 18:11:02 he talks to me in a more friendly and personal manner Mar 02 18:11:04 I bet commits are not ok Mar 02 18:11:05 ok Mar 02 18:11:33 if I've 2 commits in the official kernel that doesn't count I bet Mar 02 18:11:45 and tons in oe Mar 02 18:11:49 and some in SHR+FSO Mar 02 18:12:29 I will talk to him Mar 02 18:12:36 ok Mar 02 18:12:37 thanks Mar 02 18:14:06 not a developer....lol Mar 02 18:17:01 morphis: pong Mar 02 18:17:39 GNUtoo|laptop: don't grief yourself too much, apparantly I also wasn't eligble. and that with half a dozen of products in the competing app store *shrug* Mar 02 18:17:55 it's just funny Mar 02 18:18:07 I do not look like "not a developer" Mar 02 18:18:39 the exact words were: Mar 02 18:18:41 but its misterious as I got a device with nothing else than you did Mar 02 18:18:41 "In order to qualify you I must have verification that you are a developer." Mar 02 18:18:58 maybe there are more people asking for devices now Mar 02 18:19:00 I am currently writing a mail to him Mar 02 18:19:11 ok thanks a lot Mar 02 18:21:58 mail is out Mar 02 18:22:03 ok Mar 02 18:22:14 mickeyl: I have a 60 line of code patch for you to review for fsodeviced ... sad story .. Mar 02 18:22:47 mickeyl, should I try fsogsmd on nokia900? Mar 02 18:23:10 GNUtoo|laptop: no, i'm in the middle of a larger surgery. i hope i can commit before i leave to austria Mar 02 18:23:23 morphis: 60 lines, d'oh, what for? Mar 02 18:23:38 mickeyl: you will see ... Mar 02 18:23:54 mickeyl, what are you going to do to AU? Mar 02 18:23:55 k Mar 02 18:24:08 GNUtoo|laptop: one week winter vacation Mar 02 18:24:13 ok Mar 02 18:24:13 starting saturday Mar 02 18:24:21 maybe you'd better pastebin if you can't push Mar 02 18:24:43 situation in austria wrt. wlan is desperate Mar 02 18:24:51 so i try to push all i have until friday Mar 02 18:26:05 ok Mar 02 18:26:51 morphis: hmm, i don't like that a lot as you can imagine Mar 02 18:26:59 why is it necessary? Mar 02 18:28:38 mickeyl: I know Mar 02 18:28:43 the problem is still the touchscreen Mar 02 18:28:53 I did the way watching the sysfs node with select Mar 02 18:29:34 but between I get the state change for the display with the sysfs node and select Mar 02 18:29:37 JaMa, your trick didn't work Mar 02 18:30:01 JaMa, http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/0f491a24009cc71be7a5b7dac6e1917c.png and http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/3bde68b52c49544159bd7b7a01136529.png Mar 02 18:30:11 and the time I disable the touchscreen via the state sysfs node is too long Mar 02 18:30:19 the second is the hand-modified one at /usr/share/themes/shr-theme-gtk-e17lookalike/gtk-2.0/gtkrc Mar 02 18:30:24 and the first is the oe one Mar 02 18:30:38 there will be some frames from the touchscreen between which will let fsodeviced to go back to busy Mar 02 18:31:08 mickeyl: but we can talk about that tomorrow Mar 02 18:31:10 morphis: ok, i will take a look. now i need to run for sports Mar 02 18:31:18 do that :) Mar 02 18:31:34 i don't want to, since i'm still feeling weak, but noone is there to substitute me *sigh* Mar 02 18:31:40 * mickeyl goes to his league game Mar 02 18:31:45 :) Mar 02 18:31:52 mickeyl: but you will come tomorrow? Mar 02 18:32:18 it doesn't look like. i still have a hell of a cough and can hardly talk longer than ten minutes Mar 02 18:32:27 ouch.... Mar 02 18:32:28 my throat is killing me :/ Mar 02 18:32:33 fscking infection Mar 02 18:32:45 mickeyl: ok, then stay at home! Mar 02 18:32:48 drsck /dev/mickeyl Mar 02 18:32:56 *nod* l8er Mar 02 18:34:10 btw the boot issue was a bad microsd I think Mar 02 18:47:40 wow ... whats that? Mar 02 18:47:41 [ 231.300000] fastpath_prepare: RTC = 00:04:10, UserAlarm = 00:00:00, NextFastWake = 00:14:10 Mar 02 18:47:41 [ 231.300000] fastpath_prepare: Alarm set after 600 seconds by fastpath client : Battery Check Fastpath Client Mar 02 18:47:56 is that std. linux? Mar 02 18:53:53 aha the webos kernel has only the fastpath logic Mar 02 18:54:05 it wakes up the kernel periodically to check battery Mar 02 18:54:33 interesting Mar 02 18:54:50 thats why my device is resuming why I am not interested in ... Mar 02 19:22:19 mrmoku: ping Mar 02 19:35:00 GNUtoo|laptop: grep what still depends on libpanelw (without 5) I wrote it 2-3 days ago to ChrisW here Mar 02 19:35:16 GNUtoo|laptop: and I'm sure about gtkrc as I've tested it locally Mar 02 19:36:10 GNUtoo|laptop: sure about that OE part Mar 02 19:39:28 JaMa: don't you know why does opkg in fresh update tried to remove /etc/libphoneui.conf as orphaned file, but phoneui is not starting without that file atm? Mar 02 19:40:03 Q-Master: it's installed as part of libphone-ui-conf package Mar 02 19:40:10