**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 05 02:59:57 2011 Mar 05 08:47:17 Is someone with commit access to cornucopia git awake? I would like to have 535d1d01127d5d3559d9d4f17668b69fa93a33c8 cherry-picked to dbus-glib branch Mar 05 08:50:59 Y Mar 05 08:53:45 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07dbus-glib * r6491255c89e4 10cornucopia/fsodeviced/conf/openmoko_gta/alsa-2.6.34/voiphandset: Mar 05 08:53:45 freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: fixed voiphandset state file in openmoko_gta / 2.6.34 Mar 05 08:53:45 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Jake Drexel Mar 05 08:53:45 freesmartphone.org: Acked-by: Klaus Kurzmann Mar 05 08:53:54 thx Mar 05 08:54:01 6491255c89e4431fa70cf4b0d8898c4e154d8838 Mar 05 08:56:37 Heinervdm: wrt "fixed-in-unstable" resolution, I was using it even when not sure if it's already in shr-t to mark potentional problems with next "shr-u merge" Mar 05 08:57:12 Heinervdm: but if you want fixed-in-unstable" strictly only for those which are already in shr-t I'll try to use it only there Mar 05 08:59:00 JaMa|Off: my idea was not to merge shr-u to a shr-t, instead making a completly new branch Mar 05 08:59:27 so all those things which are fixed in shr-u now will be fixed in that testing too Mar 05 08:59:42 ok Mar 05 09:00:07 merging would be too painfull ;) Mar 05 09:00:11 then be carefull when cherry-picking Mar 05 09:00:58 yes, i don't want to introduce new bugs :) Mar 05 09:07:06 are there any disadvantages in shr-u from this? http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1289 Mar 05 09:10:28 * JaMa|Off didn't notice any Mar 05 09:14:46 ok, and an the ml nobody has complained too Mar 05 10:12:46 hi leviathan Mar 05 10:14:18 where is pespin? Mar 05 10:20:15 <[Rui]> hi all Mar 05 10:20:19 hi Mar 05 10:29:30 elisa42, hi, are you aware of that: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/News Mar 05 10:29:39 you could add the bug you fix there Mar 05 10:31:02 GNUtoo|laptop: hi, will do :) Mar 05 10:31:09 thanks Mar 05 10:31:13 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|laptop: oh, I have news to add there too Mar 05 10:31:18 ok Mar 05 10:31:20 <[Rui]> the changes I made to the contact list Mar 05 10:31:39 [Rui]: there was some confusion on the ML about that ;) Mar 05 10:31:46 mrmoku, hi do you still have your .asoundrc for multiplexing Mar 05 10:32:02 <[Rui]> Heinervdm: hms... rly? which one, users? Mar 05 10:32:07 <[Rui]> haven't subscribed it :( Mar 05 10:32:38 [Rui]: http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-user/2011-March/007061.html Mar 05 10:33:27 <[Rui]> yeah, just read it in the web archive Mar 05 10:33:38 JaMa|Off, sorry I don't remember but is mad faster than ffmp3? Mar 05 10:33:39 <[Rui]> it was cleared, but of course it would catch unaware people :) Mar 05 10:33:43 on om-gta02 Mar 05 10:33:47 <[Rui]> so maybe it's really good to add it to the news Mar 05 10:33:57 <[Rui]> and we should probably have some pages about the apps Mar 05 10:34:14 <[Rui]> but I'd really like to check out the ctxtpopup with trunk efl Mar 05 10:38:42 <[Rui]> ok, just added a description of the new way it works, is it ok like that? Mar 05 10:40:48 yes it's better to tell how it works Mar 05 10:40:53 else no one will know Mar 05 10:41:00 and no one would be able to use it Mar 05 10:42:00 GNUtoo|laptop: never head a custom asoundrc Mar 05 10:42:05 s/head/had/ Mar 05 10:42:05 mrmoku meant: GNUtoo|laptop: never had a custom asoundrc Mar 05 10:42:16 ah? Mar 05 10:42:28 no Mar 05 10:42:45 how do we do multiplexing then? Mar 05 10:42:54 somebody told me it worked out of the box Mar 05 10:42:57 but it doesn't Mar 05 10:43:12 no idea Mar 05 10:47:18 Heinervdm: #907 is fixed? Mar 05 10:47:50 mrmoku: [Rui] fixed it Mar 05 10:47:55 no Mar 05 10:48:05 it is fixed in current e trunk Mar 05 10:48:14 but [Rui] changed the hover to be a ctxpopup Mar 05 10:48:19 which has the same problem :-P Mar 05 10:48:29 <[Rui]> more or less Mar 05 10:48:36 <[Rui]> we're moving to e trunk again soon, right? Mar 05 10:48:52 I don't think Heinervdm wants to move shr-testing to trunk Mar 05 10:49:02 hi GNUtoo|laptop Mar 05 10:49:04 mrmoku: i havn Mar 05 10:49:14 't changed the status of that ticket Mar 05 10:49:21 leviathan, you said the other day that you planed to work on gta04 Mar 05 10:49:22 i reopend it by accident Mar 05 10:49:33 and changed it then back to the old status Mar 05 10:49:38 but will you also work on devices like htcdream+geeksphone? Mar 05 10:50:07 Heinervdm: ahh, ok... now I see :) Mar 05 10:50:18 GNUtoo|laptop: jup Mar 05 10:50:28 because I fucked up Mar 05 10:50:31 mrmoku: i planed to cherry-pick those changes but i haven't done yes Mar 05 10:50:34 I have to wait a half year Mar 05 10:50:43 leviathan, ok Mar 05 10:50:46 so I took a holyday semester Mar 05 10:50:47 ;-) Mar 05 10:51:03 leviathan, when will you start working on geeksphone+htcdream? Mar 05 10:52:14 leviathan, http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Hardware/HTC_Dream/TODO Mar 05 10:52:18 elisa42: "fixed in unstable" means that a bug is fixed in unstable but not in testing, and in these cases it would be nice to link the corresponding commit which has fixed the bug Mar 05 10:53:15 elisa42: so i don't have to search the whole commit history to find the corresponding commit to cherry-pick :) Mar 05 10:53:30 Heinervdm: yeah of course :) Mar 05 10:53:58 Heinervdm, which bugs I fixed don't have the commit hash? Mar 05 10:54:02 the last one doesn't Mar 05 10:54:06 but it's an oe commit Mar 05 10:54:14 should I still add it Mar 05 10:54:33 GNUtoo|laptop: as soon as I finished this crappy autorouting algorithm here Mar 05 10:54:34 :-) Mar 05 10:54:40 ok nice Mar 05 10:55:36 GNUtoo|laptop: i looked at all commits with "fixed in unstable" this morning, so for these no change is needed Mar 05 10:55:43 s/commits/bugs Mar 05 11:00:05 <[Rui]> ok, i've started a small skeleton that will need some more edit Mar 05 11:00:12 <[Rui]> http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Apps Mar 05 11:00:44 eve is too slow Mar 05 11:00:47 we must bugreport Mar 05 11:02:35 <[Rui]> webkit is too slow :| Mar 05 11:02:44 really? Mar 05 11:02:50 try midori Mar 05 11:02:53 it's way faster Mar 05 11:03:07 even on faster device eve is too slow Mar 05 11:03:17 *devices Mar 05 11:04:12 <[Rui]> midori sucks a lot Mar 05 11:04:19 it's faster Mar 05 11:04:28 so for me it's usable Mar 05 11:06:47 <[Rui]> not oriented towards small screens Mar 05 11:08:21 ok Mar 05 11:09:08 [Rui], could you bugreport for eve or should I do it(I've not a lot of time) Mar 05 11:09:11 eve uses much space on the screen too Mar 05 11:10:12 <[Rui]> yeah bottom toolbar should do what I just did in elmdentica Mar 05 11:10:35 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|laptop: not sure where the bug iks Mar 05 11:10:48 I've no idea either Mar 05 11:10:56 it's just for noticing them that it became slow Mar 05 11:11:01 it was faster before no? Mar 05 11:11:33 <[Rui]> haven't browsed a çot Mar 05 11:11:41 <[Rui]> lot Mar 05 11:20:29 <[Rui]> I wont open a bug on eve speed without first testing trunk Mar 05 11:21:50 ah ouch Mar 05 11:21:56 I just opened a bug Mar 05 11:24:39 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|laptop: I opened this one, though: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/720 on the toolbar issue. Mar 05 11:26:28 <[Rui]> oh you meant page loading? I thought you meant ui speed Mar 05 11:27:22 yes page loading Mar 05 11:27:43 google loads in about 30sec while it loads about 5sec on midori Mar 05 11:52:30 30s is a lot for the google start page :P Mar 05 11:56:31 <[Rui]> mrmoku: and it's the mobile page :) Mar 05 11:57:44 heh Mar 05 13:20:36 [Rui]: I'll say it again: switching to trunk because of a specific bug fix would be a poor idea. if you can't wait for an official stable bugfix release, cherry-pick the relevant fix locally Mar 05 13:40:54 antrik: that sounds nice... might not be doable always Mar 05 13:41:52 antrik: the fix one needs might depend on other fixes from trunk that depend on other fixes... Mar 05 13:42:38 antrik: sure one could try to backport that fix... but we lack manpower anyway Mar 05 13:42:58 (all generally speaking... dunno what's the case with this specific bug) Mar 05 13:50:39 mrmoku: lack of manpower is precisely a reason *not* to bother with unstable branches... Mar 05 13:51:35 I'm sure backporting a fix is less of a drain on manpower than fighting regressions from yet unknown bugs... Mar 05 14:05:32 antrik: within fighting the unstable branch we're not alone... with backporting instead we are Mar 05 14:05:57 and I make a big difference between shr-unstable and shr-testing (or stable someday) Mar 05 16:49:04 leviathan, hi do you have newer images of SHR for the htcdream installed? Mar 05 16:49:51 uhm Mar 05 16:49:53 no Mar 05 16:50:03 means Mar 05 16:50:07 I didn't build myself Mar 05 16:50:16 used these of the buildserver Mar 05 16:51:45 I meant official images Mar 05 16:51:59 so you could see what doesn't work Mar 05 16:52:06 no need to build yourself for now Mar 05 16:52:11 you'll need that later Mar 05 16:52:21 http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Hardware/HTC_Dream/TODO Mar 05 16:52:39 http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/HardwareComparison Mar 05 16:52:46 has some infos Mar 05 16:53:07 we could try to make sound multiplexing work Mar 05 16:54:53 the geeksphone battery is still ok? Mar 05 18:01:21 <[Rui]> hi again Mar 05 18:02:04 <[Rui]> antrik: lack of man power is a *very* good reason to move to trunk. Mar 05 18:02:21 <[Rui]> antrik: we're stuck with an old efl that is missing lots of interesting things. Mar 05 18:02:54 <[Rui]> antrik: no need to blindly follow trunk, just ask around in #edevelop how is the status quo and update from time to time. Mar 05 18:24:43 lach of manpower is a good reason to add other projet's problem to our own? sorry, that logic escapes me Mar 05 18:24:50 lack Mar 05 18:39:54 <[Rui]> antrik: except what you're defending adds up to manpower rather than reduce it. Mar 05 18:40:46 <[Rui]> and let's us stuck with severe bugs for a longer time which will *not* be fixed on the efl branch Mar 05 18:55:02 <[Rui]> bug for which nit picking in order to help us means *a*lot* more work Mar 05 18:55:14 <[Rui]> than testing once in a while for the status quo of things. Mar 05 18:55:31 <[Rui]> and update if stable enough for unstable and fixes things in the meanwhile Mar 05 23:20:38 <[Rui]> playya__: hiya! awake? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 06 02:59:57 2011