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Mar 17 04:59:09 <DocScrutinizer> khorben: umm, afaik there's even a (deprecated) USB downlink from debug board to freerunner. I.E. freerunner is supposed to be connected via USB as well while connected to debug board. Again iirc the recommended wiring is to use to separate USB ports on PC though
Mar 17 05:09:23 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: it requires a usb cable anyway, and i assumed khorben wanted to flash nand via jtag.
Mar 17 05:10:43 <DocScrutinizer> should work as well, as long as supported by the sw on PC
Mar 17 05:10:48 <DocScrutinizer> moin btw
Mar 17 05:16:32 <PaulFertser> morning
Mar 17 05:17:08 <PaulFertser> But i do not remember anybody flashing nand via jtag, so no ready-to-use solution.
Mar 17 05:17:16 <PaulFertser> It's easier to find a usb cable :)
Mar 17 05:22:15 <DocScrutinizer> german dude living 100km from Fukushima, in an interview: "When I see those helicopters sprinkling 'holy water' over the reactor buildings... :-/"
Mar 17 05:24:37 <DocScrutinizer> well, several experts prognosticate Friday is *the* day -  one way or the other
Mar 17 09:00:22 <CIA-66> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r54db1b5f8b7b 10/ (1215 files in 103 dirs): system upgrade
Mar 17 09:52:42 <alexxy> mrmoku: ping
Mar 17 09:54:49 <alexxy> mrmoku: seems since latest update to shr-u all sms referenced twice. One time on sim and second one on opimd
Mar 17 10:55:18 <mrmoku> alexxy: interesting... will ask mickey|office what he thinks
Mar 17 10:56:05 <alexxy> =)
Mar 17 11:01:44 <alexxy> mrmoku: also there still issue with seen messages
Mar 17 11:25:53 <sC> is there a way to disable saving sms to sim?
Mar 17 11:26:00 <sC> im too stupid to find anything :)
Mar 17 11:30:14 <lindi-> sC: calypso always stores incoming sms to I think
Mar 17 11:30:23 <lindi-> sC: you can't receive sms if your sim is full
Mar 17 11:30:36 <sC> lindi: no, in old releases sms were not stored to sim
Mar 17 11:30:43 <lindi-> sC: it's up to userland software to move the SMSs to some other storage _after_ they have been received
Mar 17 11:31:08 <lindi-> sC: what software are you using? fso-frameworkd?
Mar 17 11:31:15 <sC> shr
Mar 17 11:31:17 <sC> -u
Mar 17 11:31:20 <sC> latest image
Mar 17 11:31:23 <sC> so yes, fso
Mar 17 11:31:38 <lindi-> sC: shr does not use fso-frameworkd afaik anymore
Mar 17 11:31:56 <lindi-> I don't remember the name of the new vala rewrite actually now sorry :(
Mar 17 11:33:19 <HeinervdmWork> sC: this seems to be a new bug in fsogsmd, alexxy reports the same issue
Mar 17 11:33:26 <sC> yes i saw it
Mar 17 11:33:31 <sC> but is there a workaround?
Mar 17 11:34:12 <HeinervdmWork> no idea
Mar 17 11:34:43 <HeinervdmWork> as it's new, i don't think that there is a workaround
Mar 17 11:35:04 <HeinervdmWork> but you can delete the messages with mdbus2 from the sim when it's full
Mar 17 11:40:52 <sC> im too stupid for that - gotta solve removing messages from hand :)
Mar 17 11:42:32 <JaMa> if someone is going to bisect that, here is list of changed revisions http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=ec0f19033287bf0e612b540927fadc00257a9fd2 
Mar 17 11:54:04 <Osama> sC: can you shar with me interfaces file in /etc/network/
Mar 17 11:54:17 <Osama> my wifi stell not worked :(
Mar 17 11:55:10 <sC> Osama: im not quiet sure if mine is though
Mar 17 11:55:46 <Osama> aha i well try
Mar 17 11:56:21 <Osama> NGEN
Mar 17 11:56:37 <sC> osama: NGEN?
Mar 17 13:09:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> CharDevice.h is from java?
Mar 17 13:09:52 <GNUtoo|laptop> oops
Mar 17 13:09:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> wrong channel
Mar 17 14:27:54 <mrmoku> mickey|office: ping
Mar 17 14:49:54 <mickey|office> mrmoku: pöng
Mar 17 15:03:51 <mrmoku> mickey|office: hey, what mods did you apply to your minimal n900 image?
Mar 17 15:03:58 <mrmoku> newer kernel + /dev/cmt script?
Mar 17 15:04:02 <mrmoku> or anything else?
Mar 17 15:05:32 <mickey|office> copied the phonet utils in 
Mar 17 15:05:49 <mickey|office> and wrote a script that configures the phonet0 and upnlink0
Mar 17 15:05:56 <mickey|office> that's all
Mar 17 15:06:02 <alexxy> mrmoku: mickey|office : what about issue with double sms same on sim and in opimd
Mar 17 15:06:26 <alexxy> also for seen messages issue
Mar 17 15:06:33 <mrmoku> mickey|office: could you please put the script somewhere? :-)
Mar 17 15:08:56 <mickey|office> yes, when i'm at home
Mar 17 15:09:58 <mickey|office> it'
Mar 17 15:09:58 <mickey|office> it's just four lines
Mar 17 15:10:09 <mickey|office> according to what is written in if-up-down
Mar 17 15:10:39 <mrmoku> alexxy: sim_buffers_sms = false
Mar 17 15:10:46 <mrmoku> alexxy: is still in your fsogsmd.conf?
Mar 17 15:11:39 <mrmoku> mickey|office: ok, will try meanwhile from what I remember (and find in my irc logs)
Mar 17 15:12:15 <alexxy> # Whether SMS should be buffered via SIM or delivered directly
Mar 17 15:12:15 <alexxy> sim_buffers_sms = false
Mar 17 15:12:21 <mrmoku> ok
Mar 17 15:12:21 <alexxy> its still here
Mar 17 15:13:27 <alexxy> ./conf/openmoko_gta/fsogsmd.conf
Mar 17 15:13:31 <alexxy> its here
Mar 17 15:13:39 <alexxy> but not ./conf/default/fsogsmd.conf
Mar 17 15:14:00 <mrmoku> alexxy: that's correct
Mar 17 15:14:13 <alexxy> but sms buffered on sim
Mar 17 15:14:26 <alexxy> also one of this may be marked as seen
Mar 17 15:14:30 <alexxy> but another will not
Mar 17 15:14:41 <alexxy> they both may be marked as seen
Mar 17 15:22:40 <mrmoku> mickey|office: +CNMI=2,1,2,1,1 is only needed once after registering?
Mar 17 15:27:49 <mickey|office> it should, yes. feel free to issue a +CNMI? within operation to verify. if it drops back to 0, we need to try harder to keep it at the expected value
Mar 17 15:30:02 <mrmoku> mickey|office: ok... people get double SMS since some time... so I'm investigating
Mar 17 16:00:12 <mickey|office> mrmoku: good. did you make any progress wrt. sflphone in ophoned btw?
Mar 17 16:04:55 <mrmoku> mickey|office: heh... I'm struggling right now to get it to build (and work) again on my laptop in this minute :P
Mar 17 16:05:07 <mrmoku> libnotify changed api and it does not build anymore...
Mar 17 16:05:18 <mrmoku> that's a gnome client problem though
Mar 17 16:05:51 <mrmoku> other than that I'm sorry... no progress... If I try to create a profile via dbus sflphoned segfaults
Mar 17 16:06:08 <mrmoku> have to study the client code better probably... to see what it does
Mar 17 16:18:51 <mickey|office> k, np
Mar 17 16:20:15 <mrmoku> well problem yes... I really would like to have that :/
Mar 17 16:39:11 <mickey|office> *nod*
Mar 17 16:39:25 <mickey|office> we'll get there, but i don't see myself having time for that soon
Mar 17 16:39:37 <mickey|office> n900 modem will keep me busy for a couple of more weeks, i'm afraid
Mar 17 18:24:29 <mickeyl> playya_: ping. did you have a chance to answer juergbi's question on bugzilla?
Mar 17 18:29:13 <playya_> mickeyl, no
Mar 17 18:30:31 <mickeyl> ok, if you have a minute, please do
Mar 17 18:30:50 <mickeyl> i'm really keen on seeing that async delegates stuff hit mainline.
Mar 17 18:31:02 <mickeyl> would let us get rid of quite a few lines
Mar 17 18:31:28 <playya_> just came back from work
Mar 17 18:31:56 <playya_> hmm. looks like I'm not in the cc list for the bugs
Mar 17 18:37:19 <mickeyl> oh, strange
Mar 17 19:12:07 <mrmoku> mickeyl: http://pastebin.com/iF0mj80d
Mar 17 19:12:13 <mrmoku> now let's unlock the SIM :-)
Mar 17 19:13:08 <mrmoku> 2011-03-14T23:21:20.957677Z [INFO]  NokiaIsiModem <phonet:phonet0>: Modem Status changed to FSO_GSM_MODEM_STATUS_ALIVE_SIM_READY
Mar 17 19:13:12 <mrmoku> :)
Mar 17 19:14:41 <mrmoku> 2011-03-14T23:22:45.960547Z [DEBUG] fsogsmd : GLib <gisicomm>: gisicomm.vala:1106: found provider M-net [26207] with status NET_OPER_STATUS_AVAILABLE
Mar 17 19:14:47 <mrmoku> looks good :-D
Mar 17 19:14:57 <mrmoku> 2011-03-14T23:23:26.704130Z [INFO]  NokiaIsiModem <phonet:phonet0>: Modem Status changed to FSO_GSM_MODEM_STATUS_ALIVE_REGISTERED
Mar 17 19:15:01 <mrmoku> very good, indeed
Mar 17 19:15:12 <mrmoku> GNUtoo|laptop: so... mickeyl's image works for me
Mar 17 19:15:51 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok nice
Mar 17 19:15:51 <mrmoku> mickeyl: did you see my analysis of the testlab diff the other day?
Mar 17 19:15:56 <morphis> heyho
Mar 17 19:16:00 <mrmoku> hey morphis 
Mar 17 19:16:18 <morphis> hm my perl-native does not build ...
Mar 17 19:18:25 <morphis> mrmoku: GNUtoo|laptop: any ideas about this http://pastie.org/1683763 ?
Mar 17 19:18:52 <GNUtoo|laptop> hmmm linking errors
Mar 17 19:19:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> floor is pretty standard
Mar 17 19:19:32 <GNUtoo|laptop> it's from math.h
Mar 17 19:19:38 <GNUtoo|laptop> pthread is standard too
Mar 17 19:20:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> morphis, no idea
Mar 17 19:22:58 <morphis> hm ok
Mar 17 19:23:09 <alexxy> mrmoku: any news on my issues?
Mar 17 19:23:26 <morphis> I found some mailinglist post that said it is about lib64 directory on 64bit systems
Mar 17 19:24:03 <morphis> http://osdir.com/ml/netbsd.devel.pkgsrc.user/2006-11/msg00073.html
Mar 17 19:24:18 <GNUtoo|laptop> morphis, I'll PM you
Mar 17 19:24:25 <morphis> GNUtoo|laptop: ok
Mar 17 19:27:47 <mrmoku> alexxy: not yet
Mar 17 19:30:28 <morphis> captainigloo: ping
Mar 17 19:43:14 <captainigloo> morphis: pong
Mar 17 19:43:54 <morphis> captainigloo: do you have some time to discuss the unity ideas for elfe?
Mar 17 19:44:12 <captainigloo> morphis: yes
Mar 17 19:44:13 <mrmoku> alexxy: do you remember when that started?
Mar 17 19:44:22 <alexxy> hmmm
Mar 17 19:44:33 <alexxy> seems like after update 15.03
Mar 17 19:45:13 <morphis> captainigloo: ok, do you looked at the links I gave you?
Mar 17 19:45:59 <captainigloo> morphis: yes
Mar 17 19:46:06 <mrmoku> hmm
Mar 17 19:46:15 <captainigloo> morphis could you paste the link btw
Mar 17 19:46:17 <morphis> captainigloo: and what do you think about it?
Mar 17 19:46:19 <morphis> I can
Mar 17 19:46:35 <captainigloo> i think that it could be a good idea to add that in elfe :)
Mar 17 19:46:44 <captainigloo> and not really hard to do IMO
Mar 17 19:47:04 <morphis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI
Mar 17 19:47:08 <morphis> captainigloo: great
Mar 17 19:47:20 <morphis> even that one here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=quicklilst-static-entry.png
Mar 17 19:47:40 <captainigloo> even this one
Mar 17 19:47:42 <morphis> put your finger for a longer time on an app icon on the desktop and you will get some menu where you can choose some options
Mar 17 19:47:58 <morphis> captainigloo: I have another idea
Mar 17 19:48:03 <captainigloo> this feature is the easiest
Mar 17 19:48:10 <morphis> ok
Mar 17 19:48:21 <captainigloo> if i understant correctly it's a specific .desktop file
Mar 17 19:48:36 <morphis> jepp
Mar 17 19:48:45 <captainigloo> with action in a specific section
Mar 17 19:49:23 <captainigloo> I don't know if efreet already read this sections
Mar 17 19:49:50 <mrmoku> mickeyl: could you imagine +CSMS=1 has some influence on sim buffering?
Mar 17 19:50:03 <captainigloo> in case it's already the case, we just have to add a menu on top of the icon
Mar 17 19:50:20 <captainigloo> and tehre is already everything in elementary to do that
Mar 17 19:50:35 <captainigloo> context popup IIRC
Mar 17 19:50:50 <morphis> sounds good
Mar 17 19:51:49 <captainigloo> for the second part of the spec, we need to add dbus stuff in elfe
Mar 17 19:52:10 <captainigloo> and a new type of icon in elfe
Mar 17 19:52:20 <morphis> new type of icon?
Mar 17 19:52:25 <captainigloo> tehre is already two kind of objects in elfe
Mar 17 19:52:31 <captainigloo> regular icons and widgets
Mar 17 19:52:48 <captainigloo> we just need to add a third type, unity icon for example
Mar 17 19:53:03 <captainigloo> and add a specific edje group for it
Mar 17 19:53:22 <captainigloo> with a badge for the count element and a progress bar
Mar 17 19:53:26 <captainigloo> on top of the icon
Mar 17 19:53:40 <morphis> ok
Mar 17 19:53:58 <morphis> I really like to hear you a plan to implement all this stuff
Mar 17 19:54:56 <morphis> btw. do you only test this on your local pc or on any device?
Mar 17 19:55:59 <captainigloo> i have an htc desire with shr on it
Mar 17 19:56:35 <morphis> a great
Mar 17 19:56:42 <morphis> and you use it for testing?
Mar 17 19:57:57 <captainigloo> when i found the time to boot it on shr
Mar 17 19:58:10 <morphis> ok
Mar 17 19:58:16 <captainigloo> few things are working on the desire
Mar 17 19:58:30 <captainigloo> for example i have no sound :(
Mar 17 19:59:05 <captainigloo> I don't use it often
Mar 17 19:59:18 <morphis> ok
Mar 17 19:59:20 <captainigloo> i don't try the recent changes on elfe btw
Mar 17 19:59:25 <morphis> ok
Mar 17 19:59:39 <morphis> btw. I have some bug in elfe on Palm Pre
Mar 17 19:59:48 <morphis> there is a white line at the bottom of the screen
Mar 17 20:00:04 <captainigloo> with current svn ?
Mar 17 20:00:35 <morphis> some days old
Mar 17 20:01:17 <captainigloo> dock background is transparent ?
Mar 17 20:01:52 <morphis> you mean the button bar on the bottom?
Mar 17 20:02:00 <captainigloo> bottom bar
Mar 17 20:02:10 <captainigloo> at startup
Mar 17 20:02:31 <morphis> ok
Mar 17 20:02:33 <morphis> no
Mar 17 20:02:38 <captainigloo> i tried with 320x480 reslution and indeed it's not really sexy
Mar 17 20:04:43 <morphis> :)
Mar 17 20:04:52 <captainigloo> in application list icons are really tiny
Mar 17 20:04:57 <morphis> jepp
Mar 17 20:05:15 <captainigloo> it's due to a hack i added for the htc desire resolution
Mar 17 20:05:19 <morphis> and the button highligthing on the bar is broken
Mar 17 20:05:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> captainigloo, can I PM you?
Mar 17 20:05:29 <morphis> the hightlight is to large
Mar 17 20:05:35 <morphis> captainigloo: ok
Mar 17 20:06:21 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * re253919ab244 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/ (mediators_sim.vala phonebookhandler.vala unsolicited.vala): fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: adjust for recent changes to msmcomm-specs
Mar 17 20:06:40 <captainigloo> GNUtoo|laptop: are you trying to seduce me ?
Mar 17 20:06:43 <captainigloo> :P
Mar 17 20:06:45 <captainigloo> yes of course
Mar 17 20:07:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> depend on your definition of seduction
Mar 17 20:07:08 <morphis> captainigloo: btw. I have more ideas for elfe
Mar 17 20:07:16 <captainigloo> GNUtoo|laptop: haha
Mar 17 20:07:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> if it's getting you working on elfe yes
Mar 17 20:07:22 <GNUtoo|laptop> if it's something else no
Mar 17 20:07:26 <morphis> captainigloo: you now webOS notifications?
Mar 17 20:07:32 <captainigloo> morphis: nope
Mar 17 20:07:47 <morphis> captainigloo: ok
Mar 17 20:07:52 <morphis> you now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD ?
Mar 17 20:08:06 <captainigloo> yes
Mar 17 20:08:10 <morphis> captainigloo: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://pocketnow.com/html/portal/news/0000010734//webos_notifications.jpg&imgrefurl=http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/recent-iphone-hire-gives-new-hope-for-less-obtrusive-iphone-notifications&usg=__Cp3iwnmjA5j2jyHeI-3Agk3RoIM=&h=380&w=253&sz=35&hl=de&start=0&sig2=R2iNqg9iL68OYMhyNdBJIA&zoom=1&tbnid=18oznG3bRFjM1M:&tbnh=134&tbnw=89&ei=hmmCTfygKcji4AauwpDvCA&prev=/images%3Fq%3
Mar 17 20:08:10 <morphis> DwebOS%2Bnotifications%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dde%26client%3Dubuntu%26sa%3DX%26channel%3Dfs%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D681%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=347&oei=hmmCTfygKcji4AauwpDvCA&page=1&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=41&ty=94
Mar 17 20:08:20 <morphis> wwooh what a large link
Mar 17 20:08:32 <morphis> http://pocketnow.com/html/portal/news/0000010734//webos_notifications.jpg
Mar 17 20:08:35 <morphis> this one is better
Mar 17 20:08:46 <captainigloo> morphis: ok I see
Mar 17 20:08:48 <morphis> you see the boxes on the bottom
Mar 17 20:09:03 <morphis> you can wish each notifaction box to the side to remove it
Mar 17 20:09:22 <morphis> then there can even be buttons or any controls within a notification
Mar 17 20:09:57 <morphis> thats even a feature I want :)
Mar 17 20:10:38 <captainigloo> i dont understand
Mar 17 20:10:46 <morphis> ok
Mar 17 20:10:53 <morphis> you see the nofications on the screenshot
Mar 17 20:11:10 <morphis> you see the last one with the play button?
Mar 17 20:11:35 <captainigloo> http://pocketnow.com/html/portal/news/0000010734//webos_notifications.jpg <= on this one ?
Mar 17 20:11:42 <morphis> jepp
Mar 17 20:12:30 <captainigloo> with pause button ?
Mar 17 20:12:59 <morphis> jepp
Mar 17 20:16:16 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r15971c0772ef 10/libmsmcomm/ (10 files in 2 dirs): libmsmcomm: rename MessageResultType to MessageResult
Mar 17 20:16:22 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r143060d5c380 10/msmcommd/src/ (baseservice.vala commands.vala simservice.vala): msmcommd: adjust for latest changes to libmsmcomm
Mar 17 20:16:25 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r537d74d4d330 10/msmcomm-specs/src/phonebook.vala: msmcomm-specs: phonebook: rework extended file info method
Mar 17 20:16:27 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r8d6ef3648dab 10/ (16 files in 4 dirs): Merge branch 'master' into message-queue
Mar 17 20:16:29 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r3a0d46439509 10/msmcommd/src/ (commandhandler.vala modemchannel.vala phonebookservice.vala): 
Mar 17 20:16:29 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: msmcommd: make it possible to ignore the response for a send command
Mar 17 20:16:29 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: Their are situations were it is needed to ignore the response for a command which was send
Mar 17 20:16:29 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: to the modem. In most cases this is needed as the command does not have a real response.
Mar 17 20:16:30 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rff1cd804271c 10/msmcommd/src/phonebookservice.vala: msmcommd: catch unsolicited response while handling extended file info request
Mar 17 20:16:41 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r58b80908b829 10/msmcommd/src/ (commandhandler.vala modemchannel.vala phonebookservice.vala): (log message trimmed)
Mar 17 20:16:41 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: msmcommd: refactor message response processing into callback functions
Mar 17 20:16:41 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: While working with the msmcomm protocol I discovered there are some situations where you
Mar 17 20:16:41 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: need to process different response types for one send message. For example you send a
Mar 17 20:16:41 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: command message and the result is in success case a unsolicited response. In error case
Mar 17 20:16:42 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: you will get solicited response or both types. To handle this we don't have work in the
Mar 17 20:16:43 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: mind that one command will get exactly one response with a predefined type.
Mar 17 20:16:45 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rbbc9d05c133d 10/msmcommd/src/ (commandhandler.vala modemchannel.vala): msmcommd: narf vala signal are very buggy these days ...
Mar 17 20:16:45 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rc0104d856857 10/msmcommd/src/ (commandhandler.vala modemchannel.vala phonebookservice.vala): msmcommd: let service decide if it wants to get info about all unsolicited responses
Mar 17 20:16:48 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r96501ca0085f 10/msmcommd/src/ (commandhandler.vala modemchannel.vala): msmcommd: fix recieving solicited responses when no response handler is used
Mar 17 20:16:50 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r968e65c03dbc 10/libmsmcomm/msmcomm/ (5 files): libmsmcomm: more work to get sms part usable
Mar 17 20:16:53 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r8b1c095b31f9 10/libmsmcomm/ (6 files in 4 dirs): libmsmcomm: add return code field for GetHomeNetworkName response message
Mar 17 20:16:55 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rff69925d55b1 10/libmsmcomm/msmcomm/phonebookmessage.vala: libmsmcomm: fix parsing phonebook type for ecc book
Mar 17 20:17:29 <morphis> sorry for the large commit ...
Mar 17 20:21:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, hi
Mar 17 20:21:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> can I PM you?
Mar 17 20:24:29 <captainigloo> morphis: there is already some work in this sense in elementary
Mar 17 20:24:50 <captainigloo> but not exactly like on your screenshot
Mar 17 20:24:58 <morphis> ok
Mar 17 20:25:13 <morphis> as when you take the webos notifications they will shrink the screen
Mar 17 20:25:21 <morphis> even when a app is open
Mar 17 20:25:30 <morphis> btw. your new keyboard is it already in svn?
Mar 17 20:25:39 <captainigloo> mine ?
Mar 17 20:25:50 <captainigloo> nope it was just a test
Mar 17 20:26:06 <captainigloo> but Rui has done some modifications recently
Mar 17 20:27:55 <morphis> ok
Mar 17 20:28:46 <captainigloo> for notifyOSD spec, i don't know if it could be the good thing for what you want
Mar 17 20:29:27 <captainigloo> i was thinking of adding a specific E gadgets with FSO dbus support for missing cals
Mar 17 20:29:31 <captainigloo> calls
Mar 17 20:29:34 <captainigloo> new SMS
Mar 17 20:29:37 <captainigloo> and so on
Mar 17 20:29:57 <captainigloo> for music part, i guess that it depends on the player you are using
Mar 17 20:30:02 <morphis> the gadgets should be on the desktop?
Mar 17 20:30:15 <captainigloo> yes
Mar 17 20:30:27 <morphis> hm
Mar 17 20:30:33 <morphis> notifications should pop in
Mar 17 20:30:37 <captainigloo> you can add widgets and icons on the desktop
Mar 17 20:30:42 <morphis> and should be only on the desktop for some time
Mar 17 20:30:49 <captainigloo> yes indeed
Mar 17 20:31:05 <captainigloo> i will think about it
Mar 17 20:34:48 <captainigloo> morphis: for the problem of icons size in elfe i plan to add a dynamic config value for icon size
Mar 17 20:34:56 <captainigloo> all icons will have this size
Mar 17 20:35:42 <captainigloo> i added a config section witch is currently empty
Mar 17 20:35:50 <captainigloo> but it's for this kind of things
Mar 17 20:35:52 <morphis> ok thats good
Mar 17 20:36:29 <captainigloo> but i don't know exactly how i will do that btw :)
Mar 17 20:39:18 <morphis> captainigloo: like e's config files?
Mar 17 20:39:38 <captainigloo> yes
Mar 17 20:39:41 <captainigloo> it's already the case
Mar 17 20:40:02 <captainigloo> all elfe config is based on e"s config files
Mar 17 20:42:29 <morphis> ok
Mar 17 20:42:43 <morphis> btw. what about background images?
Mar 17 20:42:58 <morphis> setting them via a nice gui would be a good feature
Mar 17 20:46:06 <captainigloo> yes, two possibilities, rewrite e's backouground ui or add a new one in elfe
Mar 17 20:46:45 <captainigloo> i don't know what is the best
Mar 17 20:46:56 <captainigloo> i should ask on E mailing list
Mar 17 20:47:53 <morphis> ok
Mar 17 20:48:29 <captainigloo> another option is to develop an image viewer with the option set as background image
Mar 17 20:49:15 <morphis> I would prefer that
Mar 17 20:49:32 <morphis> we can set for example a directory as default background directory where users can put their images in
Mar 17 20:49:48 <captainigloo> that's an option too
Mar 17 20:50:02 <morphis> ~/Backgrounds for example
Mar 17 20:50:10 <morphis> or ~/Pictures
Mar 17 20:51:42 <Heinervdm> we should have just one app for settings
Mar 17 20:51:57 <Heinervdm> so we should add this to shr-settings
Mar 17 20:58:08 <morphis> Heinervdm: but shr-settings needs some cleanup ...
Mar 17 20:58:30 <Heinervdm> yes :)
Mar 17 21:05:57 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, ping
Mar 17 21:58:37 <morphis> mrmoku: maybe you can help
Mar 17 21:58:39 <morphis> me
Mar 17 21:58:51 <morphis> mrmoku: I have some problem with compiling perl-native cause missing libm
Mar 17 21:59:22 <morphis> I am on ubuntu 64bit and I discoverd somewhere in the www that it could be a problem with /lib64
Mar 17 22:10:03 <mrmoku> morphis: it's only libm? I remember some pthread missing too
Mar 17 22:10:19 <mrmoku> morphis: is it a build from scratch? or is it possible that the toolchain is broken?
Mar 17 22:10:45 <mrmoku> hmm... /lib64 ....
Mar 17 22:11:18 <mrmoku> pity that JaMa is not here :P
Mar 17 22:11:23 <morphis> mrmoku: build from scratch
Mar 17 22:11:28 <mrmoku> ok
Mar 17 22:11:34 <morphis> and libc-dev is installed
Mar 17 22:11:38 <morphis> which provide pthreads
Mar 17 22:12:49 <GNUtoo> no one got succcess with the n900 camera?
Mar 17 22:13:04 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: did never try
Mar 17 22:13:14 <GNUtoo> this pipeline is hard
Mar 17 22:13:30 <GNUtoo> media-ctl etc....
Mar 17 22:13:45 <GNUtoo> each time i try I fail
Mar 17 22:14:17 <morphis> mrmoku: some way to avoid using perl-native and use system perl?
Mar 17 22:14:48 <mrmoku> morphis: yeah, there was some way... moment
Mar 17 22:14:55 <morphis> ok
Mar 17 22:15:34 <morphis> ASSUME_PROVIDED += "perl-native"?
Mar 17 22:15:38 <mrmoku> morphis: try to put.
Mar 17 22:15:39 <mrmoku> heh
Mar 17 22:15:41 <mrmoku> yeah :)
Mar 17 22:15:45 <morphis> ok
Mar 17 22:15:50 <mrmoku> in your local.conf
Mar 17 22:16:51 <mrmoku> morphis: to avoid this kind of problems you could start to use JaMa's chroot :-)
Mar 17 22:18:46 <morphis> mrmoku: ok
Mar 17 22:18:58 <morphis> should give it a try ...
Mar 17 22:21:22 <pespin_> you can also symlink to your system perl :P
Mar 17 22:23:59 <morphis> :)
Mar 17 22:24:03 <morphis> so I am off for today
Mar 17 22:24:04 <morphis> gn8
Mar 17 22:32:04 <[Rui]> so, is openmoko.org back? :)
Mar 17 23:24:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> hmmm now I can make some valid command line stuff
Mar 17 23:25:26 <[Rui]> anyone knows how I can clear my sms sim slots?
Mar 17 23:25:36 <mickeyl> GNUtoo|laptop: pong
Mar 17 23:25:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, can I PM you?
Mar 17 23:26:02 <mickeyl> yo
Mar 17 23:29:47 <[Rui]> mickeyl: you know how I can clear my sim's sms slots=
Mar 17 23:29:49 <[Rui]> ?
Mar 17 23:30:44 <mickeyl> mdbus2 -s ... ... DeleteEntry should remove one
Mar 17 23:30:53 <mickeyl> then you can iterate through all the used slots
Mar 17 23:31:43 <[Rui]> I don't understand how it got full, aren't they stored in opimdb?
Mar 17 23:31:57 <playya_> grml. rebasing vala to master is hard
Mar 17 23:32:31 <mickeyl> if all is configured propely, it should
Mar 17 23:32:41 <mickeyl> playya_: that's a sign that you left it alone too long ;)
Mar 17 23:33:25 <playya_> yes :(
Mar 17 23:33:30 <[Rui]> mickeyl: I never touched those configs, and I find nothing of the sort in the settings app
Mar 17 23:34:01 <playya_> but now my elementary patch delays
Mar 17 23:34:22 <mickeyl> [Rui]: in that case somewhere a long the line a bug might have been introduced that needs to be looked at
Mar 17 23:34:28 <[Rui]> I'm not finding a list of messages
Mar 17 23:34:50 <[Rui]> I suppose it would be org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.DeleteEntry
Mar 17 23:35:14 <[Rui]> or more specificly org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.DeleteMessage
Mar 17 23:35:14 <mickeyl> yes, that's the method
Mar 17 23:35:18 <mickeyl> err, right
Mar 17 23:35:23 <mickeyl> DeleteEntry is phonebook, sorry
Mar 17 23:35:26 <[Rui]> but I don't know what's the index :|
Mar 17 23:35:38 <mickeyl> index starts with 1 i guess
Mar 17 23:35:45 <mickeyl> number of slots you can get by looking at GetSimInfo
Mar 17 23:35:55 <[Rui]> I wouldn't want to del something blindly :)
Mar 17 23:36:40 <mickeyl> in that case i advise RetrieveMessage to look beforehand
Mar 17 23:39:19 <[Rui]> ok, for i in `seq 1 18` (as I found 18 is the last index), retrieve, then delete
Mar 17 23:39:32 <mickeyl> yep
Mar 17 23:40:01 <[Rui]> strange, just 18?
Mar 17 23:40:06 <[Rui]> and it's all old messages
Mar 17 23:40:10 <mickeyl> ya, SIM storage is _very_ limited
Mar 17 23:40:18 <mickeyl> earlier cards had 4
Mar 17 23:40:24 <mickeyl> so be lucky with your 18 
Mar 17 23:41:43 <[Rui]> ok
Mar 17 23:41:57 <[Rui]> strange, though... I started getting an alert recently, but all messages are old
Mar 17 23:42:26 <mickeyl> someone should revisit the whole SMS stack from fsogsmd up to opimd and the SHR client to make sure everything plays well
Mar 17 23:42:45 <[Rui]> yeah. I'm not too convinced about opim though
Mar 17 23:42:57 <[Rui]> a bit too generic
Mar 17 23:43:17 <mickeyl> perhaps. time will tell.
Mar 17 23:43:33 <[Rui]> and underdesigned in terms of tables
Mar 17 23:43:57 <[Rui]> I found it very weird that there was a messages table that all it has is one field with ids
Mar 17 23:44:51 <playya_> grr. second try to rebase and still the same erro: GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid cast from `ValaStruct' to `ValaClass'
Mar 17 23:45:19 <mickeyl> hmm
Mar 17 23:45:28 <mickeyl> perhaps someone in #vala knwos?
Mar 17 23:45:37 <mickeyl> ya, pim is hard to get right.
Mar 17 23:46:06 <playya_> or some missed to run make check before commiting
Mar 17 23:48:25 <mickeyl> good luck, need to catch some sleep
Mar 17 23:51:33 <[Rui]> gnight
Mar 18 00:03:07 <playya_> oops. rebase in the wrong dir
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