**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 24 02:59:58 2011 Mar 24 10:10:16 hi guys! Mar 24 10:12:47 i've some problem with the toolchain installation...there's someone can help me? Mar 24 14:47:35 i've to develop an university project using openmoko Mar 24 14:48:05 i've to collect gps and accelerometer data and send them using usb to a sensor node Mar 24 14:48:45 no matter what os or language i've to use..but i've to do that :) Mar 24 14:49:33 i try to install toolchain to develop application in C but...following the wiki guide i'll get a lot of errors...there is someone which could help me to begin to work? Mar 24 14:51:19 pastebin errors Mar 24 14:53:11 there are more of 700 lines of error compiling a simple file Mar 24 14:54:24 to develop in c...i've to install toolchain? Mar 24 14:54:25 n3v3rmind: just do python on device, save yourself quite some trouble. Mar 24 14:54:32 n3v3rmind: really Mar 24 14:55:04 n3v3rmind: (that said, installing an (almost) fully functional toolchain on device is easy too, with opkg. Mar 24 14:55:29 but...i've to install toolchain on the freerunner?? Mar 24 14:55:42 yo Mar 24 14:55:56 yo stay for yes? :D? Mar 24 14:56:26 yo stays for "hi folks! And howdy" Mar 24 14:56:49 :D i'm not very good in english :D sorry! Mar 24 14:57:03 that's not really good english :-D Mar 24 14:58:37 DocScrutinizer: howdy :) Mar 24 14:58:50 however...i've to install toolchain on my pc..not on the freerunner right? Mar 24 14:58:58 n3v3rmind: why not python? It's already installed and you can do whatever you want without any toolchain?! Mar 24 14:59:17 ;nod: Mar 24 15:00:01 yup better then reading 700 lines of errors for each file :) Mar 24 15:00:20 i've never used python...where i can find python api to call dbus interfaces? Mar 24 15:00:51 you think it's possible use python to communicate through usb? Mar 24 15:01:16 actually number of errors is virtually meaningless for c. I've seen like thousands of errors for a one-char typo Mar 24 15:01:38 n3v3rmind: dbus should mostly work. usb depends on what kind of access you need Mar 24 15:02:14 isochronous mode might get a bit tricky indeed Mar 24 15:02:19 i've to do a serial communication with an external device Mar 24 15:02:30 n3v3rmind: does usb-serial module handle it? Mar 24 15:02:30 meh, that's baby simple Mar 24 15:03:02 time for 12648430 ☕ Mar 24 15:03:39 DocScrutinizer: agreed (about c) Mar 24 15:04:05 lindi: i've to understand it :) Mar 24 15:05:04 have you ever heard someone which reach to communicate through usb? Mar 24 15:05:23 n3v3rmind: I've communicated over usb Mar 24 18:48:58 mrmoku: 2011-03-24T18:43:26.630134Z [INFO] PdpPppInternal <>: PPP stack now online via ppp0. Local IP is 10.45.169.139, remote IP is 10.0.0.1, DNS1 is 193.189.244.225, DNS2 is 193.189.244.206 Mar 24 18:49:01 :) Mar 24 18:51:28 mickeyl: yay :D Mar 24 18:51:51 mickeyl: congrats and thanks :) Mar 24 18:51:58 I've uploaded the presentation for the talk on shr I'm giving this saturday -> http://blog.espeweb.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/shr_presentacio.pdf Mar 24 18:52:03 it's in catalan though :P Mar 24 18:52:17 I'll upload an english version when I hace some time :) Mar 24 18:52:36 mrmoku: this is atm. for serial and tcp transports. i have yet to work on the glue layer that connects it to our mux transport, but we'll get there... Mar 24 18:52:38 actually... Mar 24 18:52:47 this might even motivate me to look into the kernel MUXer Mar 24 18:52:49 d'oh :) Mar 24 18:56:16 pespin: comunitat petita... indeed... but after your nice presentation... it will increase :-) Mar 24 18:56:31 mickeyl: :) Mar 24 18:57:25 mrmoku, hehe :) I hope so! Mar 24 18:57:51 mickeyl: guess I should start to add a machine conf for gta04... or is somebody else working on it? Mar 24 18:59:13 mrmoku: i don't think so, so yes, it'd be good. it looks like the boards will be soon out Mar 24 18:59:34 ok Mar 24 18:59:35 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rb0ab8a7a6642 10/fsogsmd/src/ (lib/pdp.vala plugins/pdp_ppp_internal/plugin.vala): fsogsmd: lib: internal pdp stack starts to work Mar 24 18:59:49 will look into it on the weekend Mar 24 18:59:52 cool Mar 24 19:03:32 JaMa|Off: do you know where i can get the alan's driver? Mar 24 19:03:37 mrmoku, i think there is already a machine conf: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/conf/machine/beaglehyb.conf?id=faa2c615c811964d8d1b612851b6b80914a37e82 Mar 24 19:04:08 at least something in the right direction Mar 24 19:07:39 Slyon: ohh, nice. thx for notifiying :) Mar 24 19:08:16 mickeyl: comitted by you ;) Mar 24 19:08:46 heh, indeed Mar 24 19:08:49 :P Mar 24 19:08:51 collective amnesia Mar 24 19:09:25 leviathan: ping :) Mar 24 19:22:35 heyho Mar 24 19:24:19 mickeyl: ping Mar 24 19:24:33 yo Mar 24 19:26:49 ok, here comes the newbie Mar 24 19:26:58 the newbie? Mar 24 19:27:04 tty Mar 24 19:27:08 ? Mar 24 19:27:28 so the idea is that we set n_gsm as line discipline on and then configure / control with ioctls? Mar 24 19:27:35 * mickeyl talking about n_gsm Mar 24 19:28:01 whats n_gsm? Mar 24 19:28:08 kernel-muxer Mar 24 19:28:20 ah ok Mar 24 19:28:33 is in mainline kernel? Mar 24 19:28:37 yep Mar 24 19:29:01 great think! Mar 24 19:29:05 i'm curious to see whether it works Mar 24 19:29:18 since which kernel version? Mar 24 19:29:44 no idea, it's been mid 2010 Mar 24 19:29:47 ok Mar 24 19:29:48 when it was RFCed Mar 24 19:30:35 building it for my workstation .38 as we speak Mar 24 19:31:04 i doubt it 'just works', but lets see Mar 24 19:33:45 so Mar 24 19:34:11 mickeyl: you got ppp working with the pre? Mar 24 19:34:50 not yet Mar 24 19:34:54 ok Mar 24 19:35:04 but it shouldn't be a problem Mar 24 19:35:12 the NET failure was slightly misleading Mar 24 19:35:16 got it on my external board as well Mar 24 19:35:26 it meant 'i can't create the ppp network interface' Mar 24 19:35:35 reason for it i wasn't root Mar 24 19:35:47 so next i try on the pre i think it will just work (sic!) Mar 24 19:36:48 yeah! Mar 24 19:37:03 I hope fsogsmd will not crash then Mar 24 19:37:15 as it currently treats all incomming calls as voice calls Mar 24 19:37:30 but I will fix it with the next commits Mar 24 19:43:58 mickeyl: alan's driver? Mar 24 19:44:20 n_gsm# Mar 24 19:44:28 written by alan cox Mar 24 19:44:35 anyways, trying the one in my .38 now Mar 24 19:46:21 mickeyl: newer version + docs should be in tty-next http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/gregkh/tty-2.6.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/tty-next Mar 24 19:46:32 ah, excellent. thanks Mar 24 19:48:27 bbl Mar 24 19:59:29 damn this fucking wine Mar 24 20:37:41 GNUtoo|bug20: on nexus, how do you rotate touchscreen while screen is rotated ? Mar 24 20:42:58 oops my panel is gone Mar 24 20:43:29 it doesn't show since I switch from CW Xorg rotation back to normal and doesn't reappear even after reboot. why ? Mar 24 20:46:32 dcordes: rm -rf .e/* Mar 24 20:46:49 is that relative to ~ ? Mar 24 20:47:32 rm -rf ~/.e/* didn't work Mar 24 20:47:44 rebooting Mar 24 20:55:39 hi Mar 24 20:55:42 mrmoku: pong Mar 24 20:55:49 hi Mar 24 20:55:52 hi Mar 24 20:56:09 dcordes, look in htcdream's xorg.conf Mar 24 20:56:15 invertx Mar 24 20:56:17 inverty Mar 24 20:56:22 swapaxes Mar 24 20:56:34 GNUtoo|bug20: did you see that daniel walker got a lot further with the trout-support in upstream kernel? Mar 24 20:56:37 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rd2dc9dd54c9b 10/fsoaudiod/src/alsa_hooks/Makefile.am: fsoaudiod: don't clean alsa_hooks c sources when doing a make clean Mar 24 20:56:39 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r79f03d894bd2 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/ (10 files): fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: several fixes to improve sim authentication process Mar 24 20:56:41 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r84e5a5af968e 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/channel.vala: fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: initialize time and charger settings while modem is being initialized Mar 24 20:56:54 GNUtoo|bug20: maybe that even official kernel now knows how to handle fbcon for htcdream Mar 24 20:57:01 and because it's codeaurora Mar 24 20:57:10 even xorg-video-msm may work there Mar 24 20:57:59 leviathan, what kind of support? Mar 24 20:58:06 last time I tried Mar 24 20:58:14 *no touchscreen Mar 24 20:58:18 *no usbnet Mar 24 20:58:20 so no way Mar 24 20:58:32 rmi ts4 is in staging Mar 24 20:58:39 or was Mar 24 20:59:08 * [Rui] waves Mar 24 20:59:22 <[Rui]> question for the people working on the N900 SHR port... Mar 24 20:59:28 leviathan, any planed work for dream? Mar 24 20:59:38 <[Rui]> how easy it is to swap to and back from SHR to default image, right now? Mar 24 21:00:17 mickeyl: ping Mar 24 21:00:23 [Rui], it depend on how you installed Mar 24 21:00:43 [Rui], short answer flash the official kernel back Mar 24 21:01:05 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|bug20: I haven't installed anything, I ordered an N900 for my new job-phone. Mar 24 21:01:11 ok Mar 24 21:01:19 <[Rui]> but since it was in the "outlet" section, I may not even get it :) Mar 24 21:01:22 if your microsd is recognized by uboot Mar 24 21:01:31 you can run the chainloaded uboot Mar 24 21:01:38 <[Rui]> but since it's job-phone, I need to be able to quickly swap to and from :| Mar 24 21:01:42 ok Mar 24 21:01:57 put shr on microsd Mar 24 21:01:57 <[Rui]> unless calls and text work reliably already... do they? :) Mar 24 21:02:02 not at all Mar 24 21:02:04 <[Rui]> hehehe Mar 24 21:02:07 <[Rui]> feared as much Mar 24 21:02:15 mrmoku, what's the status of the modem? Mar 24 21:04:53 leviathan: hey, I saw you started doing some gta04 related work... what's the state? Mar 24 21:05:05 GNUtoo|bug20: sorry, unchanged Mar 24 21:05:28 mrmoku: well, Nikolaus already has built the first working prototype Mar 24 21:05:38 we well soon produce the next prototype Mar 24 21:05:52 with all corrections of the bugs in the first prototype Mar 24 21:05:54 :-) Mar 24 21:06:10 leviathan: yeah, though I'm talking about the software side :) Mar 24 21:06:14 sorry for not being clear Mar 24 21:06:21 machine conf in OE is what I'm talking about Mar 24 21:06:23 + kernel Mar 24 21:06:42 ahh Mar 24 21:06:44 well Mar 24 21:07:02 the commit you saw was for the beagleboard hybrid Mar 24 21:07:07 and should work just fine Mar 24 21:07:09 =) Mar 24 21:07:27 less work for me then :-) Mar 24 21:07:42 shouldn't it be renamed to om-gta04 ? Mar 24 21:09:36 mrmoku: good you are here, how is fsoaudio support in libphone-ui going? Mar 24 21:09:44 :( Mar 24 21:09:57 I was busy, busy, busy dayworking Mar 24 21:10:11 but weekend is on the horizon :) Mar 24 21:10:22 <[Rui]> mrmoku: so n900 is a dead bird? Mar 24 21:10:44 mrmoku: ok Mar 24 21:10:57 [Rui]: nah, how comes you think so? I have two hands... and both want a smartphone :) Mar 24 21:11:28 <[Rui]> mrmoku: I'm getting an N900 soon, if it's not sold out at my job's operator. Mar 24 21:11:41 <[Rui]> 200€ is what I'll pay Mar 24 21:11:45 [Rui]: it's a very nice piece of hw Mar 24 21:11:49 and that is a very nice price :P Mar 24 21:11:52 <[Rui]> because it goes a bit above my plafond Mar 24 21:12:08 <[Rui]> it costs 325 in outlet price, I have a 125 plafond, so 200 :) Mar 24 21:14:07 325 in shops? Mar 24 21:14:26 maybe we could buy one for morphis, I must look at my finaances Mar 24 21:19:19 GNUtoo|bug20: cool, thanks Mar 24 21:19:40 I didn't did it yet Mar 24 21:19:58 but basically the n900 is not progressing as fast as we'd like too Mar 24 21:20:01 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|bug20: 325 in a private plan for my company, with 36 months contract Mar 24 21:20:08 ahh ok Mar 24 21:25:09 leviathan, where are the htcdream kernel improvement in mainline? Mar 24 21:25:18 did they made it bootable for us? Mar 24 21:27:04 http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=tree;f=arch/arm/mach-msm;h=b8dccfc39132803c175a0dbf6b07fe0e9c177cb5;hb=HEAD Mar 24 21:27:11 should be bootable Mar 24 21:27:20 with some control over it???? Mar 24 21:27:27 or just serial which I don't have Mar 24 21:27:34 I'll try as soon as the soldering iron has gone from between keyboard and me Mar 24 21:27:36 ;-) Mar 24 21:30:15 leviathan, I still don't see touchscreen or usb initialization Mar 24 21:30:33 (platform device stuff for that) Mar 24 21:30:47 not to count that the usb code for msm is not compatible with msm7k Mar 24 21:31:01 at least when it got in it was not Mar 24 21:32:19 hmm Mar 24 21:32:50 I won't even try Mar 24 21:32:56 it will only give me frustration Mar 24 21:33:59 kk Mar 24 21:34:03 for-next Mar 24 21:34:16 from codeaurora should be functional at least Mar 24 21:34:19 I'll try it later Mar 24 21:34:29 ahh from codeaurora Mar 24 21:34:37 I'm using linux-next mainline Mar 24 21:34:44 where is that git? Mar 24 21:36:52 https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/kernel/?p=dwalker/linux-msm.git;a=tree;h=refs/heads/for-next;hb=for-next Mar 24 21:36:58 I'll try later Mar 24 21:36:59 ok? Mar 24 21:38:57 are you sure? Mar 24 21:39:09 does dwalker still do next inclusion? Mar 24 21:39:15 I tought he stepped back Mar 24 21:39:19 for another person Mar 24 21:39:59 see for-next is old Mar 24 21:42:10 hmm Mar 24 21:42:14 I'll check Mar 24 21:42:22 I'm in the vger mailinglist Mar 24 21:42:26 https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/kernel/?p=davidb/linux-msm.git;a=summary Mar 24 21:42:29 msm-kernel ML Mar 24 21:42:37 I saw a commited patch Mar 24 21:42:39 somewhere Mar 24 21:43:11 someone pushed important driver stuff Mar 24 21:43:23 I'll have to look where it has been pushed to Mar 24 21:43:30 but now I'm soldering Mar 24 21:43:31 later Mar 24 21:43:33 :-) Mar 24 22:01:54 mrmoku: hello, i know you are using N900, what is the preferred file system if shr is installed on external sd card ? Mar 24 22:17:33 leviathan, I don't think there is much work done with the htc dream anymore for mainline Mar 24 22:17:43 if you want it to work Mar 24 22:17:46 get serial Mar 24 22:18:56 hm Mar 24 22:22:18 Date: Mon Dec 13 14:35:07 2010 -0800 Mar 24 22:22:22 last trout commit Mar 24 22:22:28 msm: trout: add gpio_to_irq Mar 24 22:22:35 no USB Mar 24 22:22:40 no touchscreen Mar 24 22:22:49 no wifi Mar 24 22:23:03 how can you control the phone? Mar 24 22:23:14 trough scripts that you place on the microsd Mar 24 22:23:15 no thanks Mar 24 22:29:21 GNUtoo|bug20: are you using N900 ? Mar 24 22:30:41 I've one yes Mar 24 22:30:49 and it runs SHR yes Mar 24 22:31:28 GNUtoo|bug20: did you install SHR on an external SD card ? and which file system do you use ? Mar 24 22:32:10 that's the funny part Mar 24 22:32:14 I took over the nand Mar 24 22:32:25 so ubifs Mar 24 22:32:32 else I've some systems on sd Mar 24 22:32:45 I always run ext3 Mar 24 22:34:32 GNUtoo|bug20: is it possible to run SHR on N900 from SD card ? Mar 24 22:35:08 yes of course Mar 24 22:35:21 that's the prefered metod Mar 24 22:35:39 I wanted to add ubi support Mar 24 22:35:45 so I end up using ubi Mar 24 22:37:06 GNUtoo|bug20: ok, i am extending the shr manual (docbook version) so i wanted to know which parts of the manual are phone dependent Mar 24 22:37:59 ok nice Mar 24 22:38:14 I run on ubifs because I made an error Mar 24 22:38:40 basically I could have run on the 32GB onenand Mar 24 22:38:47 that would have been wiser Mar 24 22:41:05 GNUtoo|bug20: i do not understand what you are saying :-( Mar 24 22:41:16 the n900 has: Mar 24 22:41:20 * a microsd slot Mar 24 22:41:30 * a 32GB one NAND flash Mar 24 22:41:40 * a NAND flash of 256M Mar 24 22:41:49 if I remember well for the nand flash Mar 24 22:42:03 I'm not sure about the 256M Mar 24 22:42:09 but I can check Mar 24 22:43:59 GNUtoo|bug20: dont worry, please read the manual sometimes and if something is wrong please tell me, is that ok ? Mar 24 22:44:37 or just tell that the preferred way is to install on microsd Mar 24 22:44:43 since it permit dual-boot Mar 24 22:45:31 GNUtoo|bug20: thats the way i described, but i was not sure that this is possible on N900 Mar 24 22:46:04 yes it is possible to dual boot Mar 24 22:46:10 several ways: Mar 24 22:46:13 *use uboot Mar 24 22:46:28 *flash the zImage every time you change OS Mar 24 22:46:49 *use maemo kernel and maemo's dual-boot system Mar 24 22:46:59 JaMa|Off, knows more than me about the third option Mar 24 22:48:45 leviathan, it doesn't even boot with linux-next Mar 24 22:48:50 but you have the display Mar 24 22:48:53 so debug it if you want Mar 24 22:49:01 kk$ Mar 24 22:52:15 I'll go Mar 24 22:53:19 GNUtoo|bug20: a new version is available Mar 24 23:08:31 PaulFertser: are you online ? Mar 24 23:24:27 nschle85|2: hey Mar 24 23:24:47 PaulFertser: privet :-) Mar 24 23:24:55 nschle85|2: privet :) Mar 24 23:25:26 PaulFertser: my question is: are you using N900 and SHR ? Mar 24 23:26:08 nschle85|2: i installed shr on sd for n900 and booted it when i tried to do phonet forwarding. Mar 24 23:26:13 It worked fine for that Mar 24 23:27:00 PaulFertser: which file system do you use on sd card ? Mar 24 23:27:25 nschle85|2: ext2 afair Mar 24 23:27:28 ext3 Mar 24 23:28:53 PaulFertser: so if you read http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/UserManual preparing SD card chapter is ok ? Mar 24 23:29:17 PaulFertser: which boot loader is used on N900 ? Mar 24 23:30:19 nschle85|2: integrated NOLO Mar 24 23:30:23 nschle85|2: and then u-boot. Mar 24 23:30:35 nschle85|2: i think i used that UserManual, yes Mar 24 23:32:25 PaulFertser: I think QI boot loader is not working is that true ? Mar 24 23:32:39 nschle85|2: Qi is not working on n900, mtrue. Mar 24 23:33:26 PaulFertser: u-boot is the preferred loader on N900, true ? Mar 24 23:33:36 nschle85|2: nolo->u-boot Mar 24 23:34:34 PaulFertser: i do not understand nolo->u-boot Mar 24 23:41:57 PaulFertser: ti usche spisch ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 25 02:59:57 2011