**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 27 02:59:59 2011 Mar 27 04:55:48 anyone around that's familiar with the fsogsm api? I'm working on the baseband for the iPhone3G. Running into some problems though >< Mar 27 05:14:07 yay, wpwrak AND wolfspraul both here - what's wrong? :-D Mar 27 05:15:22 yay Mar 27 05:15:30 one sec, let me show you what I have done so far ;p Mar 27 05:17:18 there's documented AT commands from iDroid (Android) ril source available here: https://github.com/iDroid-Project/vendor_apple/blob/gingerbread/libril/pmb8878/ril.c Mar 27 05:17:39 Lopi: baseband for whyPhone? You should talk to mickey|bbl and gnutoo Mar 27 05:18:19 the iPhone3G's baseband is always on, but before it will work unlock functions must be executed Mar 27 05:18:25 though I think nobody has ever considered porting FSO to iPhone Mar 27 05:18:50 AT+CFUN= ? Mar 27 05:19:01 this all depends on whether you actually use a SIM or rely on an unlock Mar 27 05:20:24 no Mar 27 05:21:19 in the case of using a SIM, you have to send AT+XLCK=0, then another AT+XLCK command with an unlock payload, then AT+XLCK=2 Mar 27 05:21:37 then you would be able to do AT+CFUN Mar 27 05:21:41 AT+CPIN Mar 27 05:21:42 etc Mar 27 05:22:32 you can see how they do it in android here: https://github.com/iDroid-Project/vendor_apple/blob/gingerbread/libril/pmb8878/ril.c#L1367 Mar 27 05:22:35 what a hw interface is in iPho? Mar 27 05:22:59 DocScrutinizer: what's wrong with that? Mar 27 05:23:01 I'm the person doing the SHR port for the iPhone3G Mar 27 05:23:08 I still hang out in the old channels :-) Mar 27 05:23:21 wolfspraul: rarely Mar 27 05:23:40 DocScrutinizer: btw, Sebastien regrets being somewhat unfriendly to you. Maybe we can woo you back one day, your input is very much appreciated... Mar 27 05:23:47 this is the modem in the 3G: http://www.infineon.com/dgdl/X-GOLD608-PMB8878+PB.pdf?folderId=db3a304312fcb1bc0113000c158f0004&fileId=db3a30431be39b97011c09549f077a1a Mar 27 05:23:55 we are moving to the rc3 run, with some (small) modifications suggested by you Mar 27 05:24:10 but not the bulk of it, because we don't have you to discuss and understand your point :-) Mar 27 05:24:19 wolfspraul: I should forget my childish attitude and ... Mar 27 05:25:08 wolfspraul: better? Mar 27 05:25:30 ha, yes :-) Mar 27 05:25:36 not childish though, you have my sympathy Mar 27 05:25:53 you are an experienced guy, at some point with most people the realization settles in that there are more important things than factual correctness Mar 27 05:26:04 even above that is general friendliness and respect for one another Mar 27 05:26:10 otherwise why the heck, right? :-) Mar 27 05:26:27 so that's all fine. thanks for joining back! Mar 27 05:26:57 yw Mar 27 05:28:22 anyone mind taking a look at what I have so far? I started by extending the modem_singleline plugin and adapting unlockWildcard() from iDroid ril source. http://pastie.org/private/baipfekwj56fr4yvcvn95a Mar 27 05:29:03 we only have very basic functionality for the baseband Mar 27 05:31:07 Lopi: one generic advice: make your error strings unique Mar 27 05:31:41 DocScrutinizer: could you give me an example? Mar 27 05:31:42 FsoFramework.theLogger.debug( "fsogsm.iphone No Activation Report Found *1*" ); Mar 27 05:31:50 FsoFramework.theLogger.debug( "fsogsm.iphone No Activation Report Found *2*" ); Mar 27 05:32:02 those are two different messages Mar 27 05:32:08 FsoFramework.theLogger.debug( "fsogsm.iphone No Activation Report Found" ); Mar 27 05:32:13 FsoFramework.theLogger.debug( "fsogsm.iphone No Activation Record Found" ); Mar 27 05:32:15 ooops Mar 27 05:32:17 :-D Mar 27 05:40:09 guess I'll wait to talk with GNUtoo or mickeyl Mar 27 08:34:20 radekp: hey Mar 27 08:35:19 radekp: have you seen the patch that makes it possible for gpsd to add hooks so it allows to have gpsd turn gps on/off exactly when that's needed? Mar 27 08:35:42 radekp: i also can confirm gpsd from git HEAD worked fine for me (several months ago, when i was preparing that patch). Mar 27 08:37:33 radekp: http://git.berlios.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gpsd;a=commitdiff;h=587eccb8abf9e5f47bc3568ee934582712be2b3f + http://git.berlios.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gpsd;a=commitdiff;h=4b2ead027c444c42907e478edb49673189a0f293 Mar 27 08:47:52 Updated the SHR wiki with some changes for the iPhone3G: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/News Mar 27 08:56:01 Lopi: cool stuff! Mar 27 08:56:23 PaulFertser: hi, nice, thanks Mar 27 08:57:29 radekp: if you've any questions about that, ask here and i'll answer as soon as i get back home (or wherever i'll have internet access). Mar 27 09:01:07 PaulFertser: i had problem that i couldnt get fix with gpsd running, i'll have to try it again... Mar 27 11:13:08 DocScrutinizer: BTW, did your experiments with Calypso setup yield any results? Mar 27 11:13:52 I didn't follow up on it, it's been a problem related to a friend's FR Mar 27 11:14:10 ...if you're talking about AEC/NR Mar 27 11:55:39 hmm Mar 27 12:01:03 mickeyl, hi, better talk here Mar 27 12:01:13 I'm thinking of doing stuff such as: Mar 27 12:01:21 *fsodeviced integration Mar 27 12:01:28 and similar stuff Mar 27 12:01:35 *writing programs Mar 27 12:01:36 etc.. Mar 27 12:01:46 maybe I could do that for dream and n900? Mar 27 12:01:48 good Mar 27 12:01:50 yea Mar 27 12:01:55 oe is also possible for me Mar 27 12:02:28 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r55521a0a20e6 10/tools/mterm2/src/terminal.vala: mterm2: try harder to gracefully shutdown MUX mode, still doesn't work though Mar 27 12:02:42 what is most needed in theses area? Mar 27 12:02:46 n900 kenrel packaging? Mar 27 12:02:58 switching to meego 2.6.37-next kenrel Mar 27 12:03:01 yep Mar 27 12:03:02 that is in fso Mar 27 12:03:04 ok Mar 27 12:03:11 dream i have no idea about the status Mar 27 12:03:18 I could give a try if time permits Mar 27 12:03:26 n900 needs some more work for the OOTB experience Mar 27 12:03:28 cool Mar 27 12:03:35 basically still same core issue for the dream Mar 27 12:03:47 but the interfaace etc...is now more polished Mar 27 12:03:48 ok, pity. mainline abandonded it, right? Mar 27 12:03:50 not finished tough Mar 27 12:03:56 no idea Mar 27 12:04:06 how caan you tell if something is abandoned? Mar 27 12:04:11 it's hard Mar 27 12:04:27 anyway it's not very active, yes Mar 27 12:04:28 ya, hard to tell. but there were only two or max three guys motivated to bring it in anyways Mar 27 12:04:35 and i didn't see patches from these guys for months Mar 27 12:04:40 me neither Mar 27 12:04:51 should I order the serial port adapter? Mar 27 12:05:10 for dream? i don't think it's worth Mar 27 12:05:33 with the pre's in good state and n900 becoming useful any time soon, there's enough to hack on atm. Mar 27 12:05:36 ok Mar 27 12:05:52 and the nexusone may become usable too Mar 27 12:06:00 thanks to dcordes + cotulla work Mar 27 12:06:07 is the GPS + WiFi situation on nexusone any better than on dream? Mar 27 12:06:14 yes Mar 27 12:06:26 GPS is floss in android Mar 27 12:06:43 wifi is kind of wext but has still issues Mar 27 12:07:01 but there is a correct driver in staging or mainline Mar 27 12:07:19 brcm80211 Mar 27 12:07:27 basically: Mar 27 12:07:30 *AT Mar 27 12:07:32 *NMEA Mar 27 12:07:51 *some android problems we already took care of or know how to handle Mar 27 12:07:59 NMEA without these crazy baseband communciation dances? Mar 27 12:08:12 with the crazy dance Mar 27 12:08:15 argh Mar 27 12:08:17 no go for me then Mar 27 12:08:22 why? Mar 27 12:08:32 android has floss activator for gps Mar 27 12:08:36 floss libraries Mar 27 12:08:41 the no go is at another point Mar 27 12:08:51 the no go is alsa + wifi in some extends Mar 27 12:08:58 but that is beeing fixed by cotulla Mar 27 12:09:01 so we just wait Mar 27 12:09:07 and don't care until it work Mar 27 12:09:14 that's my plan Mar 27 12:09:22 good pla Mar 27 12:09:39 even accelerometers is floss but somewhat problematic Mar 27 12:10:01 ok, spare time is too short to work on somewhat problematic areas these days :) Mar 27 12:10:05 (I think part of it works with ioctls and no /dev/input node Mar 27 12:10:07 ) Mar 27 12:10:09 so either it works really good or chose another device Mar 27 12:10:12 (for me) Mar 27 12:10:18 indeed that's why I wait Mar 27 12:10:21 yep Mar 27 12:10:27 and we should concentrate on n900 Mar 27 12:10:31 DocScrutinizer: no idea what AEC/NR is, but I guess that's what I mean... Mar 27 12:10:33 ya Mar 27 12:10:45 pity you didn't follow up... would be good to know whether it indeed improves things Mar 27 12:10:46 i'm waiting for some definite news on the libnl1 / libnl2 situation before continuing with the modem protocol Mar 27 12:10:55 ah Mar 27 12:10:57 Automatic Echo Cancellation / Noise Reduction Mar 27 12:10:57 in the meantime i'm working on the internal ppp stack Mar 27 12:11:02 that's kind if problematic Mar 27 12:11:09 because I won't do it Mar 27 12:11:14 since it's frustrating Mar 27 12:11:22 and mrmoku has no time right now Mar 27 12:11:26 lo mickeyl Mar 27 12:11:26 he will in the future tough Mar 27 12:11:40 hi DocScrutinizer, how's life? Mar 27 12:12:14 aaaw, don't ask. I'm living at the edge of world madness, and we got plenty of that recently Mar 27 12:12:46 ah me too(frustration,rage-against-the-machine etc...) Mar 27 12:13:04 *nod* Mar 27 12:13:09 seems that's a common pattern these days Mar 27 12:13:10 feels like I've watched Fucku and the 3 tepco stooges for 2 weeks 24/7 and couldn't stop to swear and shout about their idiocy Mar 27 12:13:19 *nod* Mar 27 12:13:48 for me it's at a point where I have to use the bug20 as computer Mar 27 12:14:22 else I can't support the noise of a computer for a day long Mar 27 12:14:31 s/else/because/ Mar 27 12:14:31 GNUtoo|bug20 meant: because I can't support the noise of a computer for a day long Mar 27 12:15:47 almost silent here Mar 27 12:16:03 here too now that I use bug20 Mar 27 12:16:04 i can't stand loud machines either Mar 27 12:17:22 the problem is that they're not that loud Mar 27 12:17:37 in fact they are pretty silent Mar 27 12:17:40 but still Mar 27 12:19:48 sigh bt keyboard issues Mar 27 12:20:05 I hate this keyboard, it's small etc...but I get tons of issues with it Mar 27 12:20:46 bbs Mar 27 12:22:01 basically for the phones Mar 27 12:22:21 htcdream => could be fixed but not worth and nobody would fix it Mar 27 12:22:43 n900 => worth great device Mar 27 12:22:54 nexusone => wait and see Mar 27 12:23:11 iphone3g => not sure it will go somewhere: Mar 27 12:23:53 I mean for iphone3g, even if PMU is fixed, the porter doesn't seem skilled enough to finish the port Mar 27 12:24:10 for instance he knows java etc...but not C Mar 27 12:24:19 which is problematic Mar 27 12:24:38 for the palm-pre I can't tell Mar 27 12:24:44 I don't have one yet Mar 27 12:25:35 but morphis works a lot on it Mar 27 12:26:07 altough it appear less good than the n900 for me Mar 27 12:26:16 because of the non-mainline kernel Mar 27 12:27:29 so for me: Mar 27 12:27:33 1) n900 Mar 27 12:27:37 2)palm-pre Mar 27 12:27:47 3) forget the rest for now Mar 27 12:28:14 forget the rest means, don't invest too much time on it Mar 27 12:28:23 it doesn't mean don't fix stuff Mar 27 12:29:07 yep Mar 27 12:29:14 i agree basically Mar 27 12:29:40 plus i'm not so much interested in smartphones without keyboard Mar 27 12:29:47 i have an almost perfect one which i'm not hacking Mar 27 12:29:54 so for hacking i need one with a keyboard Mar 27 12:30:04 keyboard could be fixed Mar 27 12:30:17 not great I agree Mar 27 12:30:24 but android handle it Mar 27 12:30:42 so why coun't someone like captainigloo handle it? Mar 27 12:31:07 but it's sub-obtimal Mar 27 12:31:15 a hardware keyoard is soo nice Mar 27 12:32:15 Hi. I'm having trouble building vala apps in OE from local source. I tried both the inherit_append "srctree gitpkgv" thing and the method described in SHR wiki. Mar 27 12:32:50 for example for vala-terminal + the SHR wiki way (just setting SRC_URI to local dir) Mar 27 12:32:53 zub, did you try the devshell? Mar 27 12:33:01 devshell is easier Mar 27 12:33:05 do_compile fails with: arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-gcc: src/terminal.o: No such file or directory Mar 27 12:33:11 GNUtoo|bug20: aaah, is it working? Mar 27 12:33:15 I have not tried Mar 27 12:33:19 try it Mar 27 12:33:22 bitbake devshell Mar 27 12:33:31 I cannot guarantee it will work for you tough Mar 27 12:33:43 but I can explain how to use it Mar 27 12:33:55 ok, but how does the dev cycle work then? I run do_configure, then edit in tmp/work/... ? then compile? Mar 27 12:34:06 you run that: Mar 27 12:34:10 sh autogen.sh Mar 27 12:34:13 oe_runconf Mar 27 12:34:16 oe_runmake Mar 27 12:34:23 and then you scp to the device Mar 27 12:34:30 it's more manual Mar 27 12:34:37 because it doesn't produce an ipk Mar 27 12:34:44 but it's still usefull Mar 27 12:34:50 oook... so how should I start? Should I revert the recipe to get rid of any local build tries? Mar 27 12:35:01 no Mar 27 12:35:05 bitbake devshell Mar 27 12:35:07 ok Mar 27 12:35:11 and then Mar 27 12:35:17 it's in deploy/addon Mar 27 12:35:19 source it Mar 27 12:35:26 it will give an error Mar 27 12:35:32 and it will be in the path Mar 27 12:35:43 arm-... will be in the path Mar 27 12:35:49 oe_runconf or_runmake too Mar 27 12:35:50 etc... Mar 27 12:36:08 if it doens't work for you Mar 27 12:36:14 I've a third option Mar 27 12:36:20 bitbake the normal recipe Mar 27 12:36:27 like for insttance vala-terminal Mar 27 12:36:34 go in the tmpdir Mar 27 12:36:38 go in the workdir Mar 27 12:36:43 of vala-terminal Mar 27 12:36:45 go in temp Mar 27 12:36:50 then there are scripts Mar 27 12:36:59 look at them Mar 27 12:37:06 and run them like that: Mar 27 12:37:18 cd /path/to/git/repo Mar 27 12:37:37 ../../../path/to/run.do_configure Mar 27 12:37:43 ../../../path/to/run.do_compile Mar 27 12:37:45 etc... Mar 27 12:37:55 :) Mar 27 12:38:02 that's hard core Mar 27 12:38:04 ok, thanks Mar 27 12:42:36 the devshell is interesting, but it fails the same way, so I'll try the last-instance thing Mar 27 12:44:05 How is WiFi supposed to work in SHR? I though there's something like connman in use, but looking at iliwi it just uses wpa_supplicant Mar 27 12:45:28 fsodeviced resource + normal stuff(libnl or wext) Mar 27 12:46:07 well, the resource is used for wifi on/off Mar 27 12:46:12 yes Mar 27 12:46:16 wext or libnl could be used to configure the device Mar 27 12:46:28 but what about auth stuff... whatever is that usually wpa_supplicant does? Mar 27 12:46:28 that's the only thing managed by fso(on/off) Mar 27 12:46:32 ahaa Mar 27 12:46:33 ok Mar 27 12:47:00 the rest is the linux kenrel or GNU/Linux userland standard interfaces Mar 27 12:47:29 some time ago there was something using connman or something like that Mar 27 12:47:35 but it didn't work well Mar 27 12:47:42 and iliwi worked better Mar 27 12:47:47 so, so SHR doesn't define anything here Mar 27 12:47:58 so iliwi got into the official image instead of the connman thing Mar 27 12:48:07 no Mar 27 12:48:19 yeah, I wanted do to some changes to iliwi Mar 27 12:48:35 though hit a showstopper quite early, as usual Mar 27 12:50:00 ah the compilation Mar 27 12:50:56 *yawn* Mar 27 12:50:59 so tired Mar 27 12:51:29 this nite someone had a quarrel in our house, doors slammed, girl crying, *sigh* until i screamed that i'll call the police if they continue with that Mar 27 12:51:42 couldn't sleep anyways afterwards Mar 27 12:53:28 quarrel Mar 27 12:53:29 ? Mar 27 12:53:40 argument/fight Mar 27 12:53:49 ah ok Mar 27 12:54:01 I forgott to click on disambiguation Mar 27 12:54:14 GNUtoo|bug20: hoooray! after several random tries the devshell works for me :) thanks Mar 27 12:54:25 zub, nice Mar 27 13:00:05 morphis: ping Mar 27 13:00:24 http://pastebin.com/PNevQRv4 Mar 27 13:00:28 morphis: i can't talk to the pre modem anymore. msmcommd loops 2000-01-01T23:21:55.203796Z [DEBUG] msmcommd : eneque SYNC frame for sending Mar 27 13:00:28 2000-01-01T23:21:55.261474Z [DEBUG] msmcommd : Send a SYNC frame to modem Mar 27 13:01:10 ahh sorry Mar 27 13:01:18 I blacklisted it locally(libnl) Mar 27 13:01:21 long time ago Mar 27 13:01:36 and now with the jama patches that renames libnl2 in libnl-2.0 Mar 27 13:01:41 will fix Mar 27 13:01:46 ok Mar 27 13:05:01 mickeyl, btw how to monitor(in vala) the apparition of a network interface? Mar 27 13:05:05 I look here: Mar 27 13:05:25 /sys/class/net/ Mar 27 13:05:27 ? Mar 27 13:06:14 apparition? Mar 27 13:06:29 ah, when one arrives? Mar 27 13:06:58 you can do this easily with my kobject monitoring infrastructure. take a look at mkdump Mar 27 13:07:25 the kernel will send you a message on objects appearing / disappearing Mar 27 13:10:38 that's in fsodeviced? Mar 27 13:10:52 basically it was for doing a wifi plugin for the dream Mar 27 13:10:55 something quick Mar 27 13:12:43 morphis, I'll leave for one week tomorrow (vacations in AT), but here is the patch to make elfe default on the pre: http://pastebin.com/eywkA8LL (just in case you get elfe to work and want to push it) Mar 27 13:15:27 morphis, it uses the config options captainigloo recommended Mar 27 13:15:41 GNUtoo|bug20: mkdump is an external utility, the monitoring infrastructure is in libfsobasics. mkdump can show you how to use it Mar 27 13:15:59 ok thanks a lot Mar 27 13:25:47 http://pastebin.com/G00tBbGG Mar 27 13:25:56 mterm2 fails Mar 27 13:30:46 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra811aa21f689 10/tools/mterm2/src/terminal.vala: mdbus2: fix compilation with older vala versions Mar 27 13:30:56 err Mar 27 13:31:01 s/mdbus2/mterm2/ Mar 27 13:32:49 thanks Mar 27 14:11:26 After ages trying something with Vala. Why can't I create Gee.ArrayList? I'm getting "error: duplicating Object instance, use unowned variable or explicitly invoke copy method" and being a vala noob I'm quite confused... Mar 27 14:11:51 I obviously can turn that into ArrayList but that's not what I want, at least I think it's not what I want :) Mar 27 14:14:47 GNUtoo|bug20: with some care, it's totally possible to make a normal desktop machine virtually inaudible Mar 27 14:15:03 antrik, ok that would be nice Mar 27 14:15:15 altough my solution somewhat work Mar 27 14:15:33 but the biggest problem is that I can't write bug apps Mar 27 14:32:32 zub: unfortunately the EFL objects do not support the glib reference counting system, hence some things are not possible. i'm afraid you have to use unowned here or resort to pointers to EFL objects Mar 27 14:32:34 bbl, voting Mar 27 14:36:54 ah, so unowned would work? I was afraid that would do be wrong, but I don't really understand that :-/ Mar 27 14:36:59 I'll try with onowned Mar 27 14:39:40 my uasecase was - a container to keep the objects alive, unowned doesn't seem to work for this usecase Mar 27 14:50:43 radek__: please keep me informed about your gpsd adventures, i think i know gpsd enough to be able to help. Mar 27 14:55:24 mickeyl: you have to reset the modem Mar 27 14:56:11 mickeyl: use this script Mar 27 14:56:12 http://pastie.org/1722255 Mar 27 14:56:16 mickeyl: kill msmcommd Mar 27 14:56:33 mickeyl: run ./pmmodempower cycle (name of thescript) Mar 27 14:56:46 mickeyl: and restart msmcomd Mar 27 14:56:51 then it should work again Mar 27 14:57:07 or restart fsogsmd Mar 27 14:57:16 fsogsmd does the lowlevel modem handling Mar 27 15:44:57 zub, yeah, working with Elm objectss in vala is quite messy. Best way is addin them as attributes to some gobject class and keeping the object instance of the gobject class alive with references :) Mar 27 15:45:12 zub, you can have a look at emtooth2 source code for more info Mar 27 15:45:27 it's nor perfect but it works hehe Mar 27 15:55:18 i've been meaning to write some additional higher level classes, but UI-work has little priority for me these days Mar 27 15:57:37 heh, you were so eager to leave low-level and go for some nice UI stuff some months ago, iirc Mar 27 15:58:18 yes, i'm still. if someone were to take over my middleware jobs, i'll switch over to UI instantaneously Mar 27 16:02:19 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r940241d8b4af 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/pdp_ppp_internal/plugin.vala: fsogsmd: pdp_ppp_internal: set status to disconnected, if we don't succeed in establishing the context Mar 27 16:02:19 [2011-03-26 11:01:10] after running AT%FRST verizon couldn't fix it in the store and i got a replacement today Mar 27 16:03:39 %FRST... never heard about that Mar 27 16:03:54 18:00!!! elections closed! Now let the whining start :-P Mar 27 16:04:24 :D Mar 27 16:04:37 morphis: ping Mar 27 16:07:08 DocScrutinizer, elections? Mar 27 16:08:12 any palm pre owners in da house? Mar 27 16:08:23 http://www.zdf.de/ Mar 27 16:14:50 mickeyl: ping Mar 27 16:15:18 pön Mar 27 16:15:21 g Mar 27 16:15:30 :) Mar 27 16:15:37 i have a question, too Mar 27 16:15:38 you first Mar 27 16:15:54 mickeyl: ok, I just want to know if the modem works again after the reset Mar 27 16:16:07 ah, no idea, i read your solution too late, i rebooted Mar 27 16:16:24 ok Mar 27 16:16:38 the problem is that fsogsmd needs to do the lowlevel reset Mar 27 16:16:53 you can do it with msmcommd too (it's a config option) Mar 27 16:17:00 can you get me the ppp command line from WebOS? i have problems establishing the IPCP layer on the pre Mar 27 16:17:06 (reset) ok Mar 27 16:17:25 you mean the chat script? Mar 27 16:17:32 or the cmdline of the running pppd process? Mar 27 16:17:34 mickeyl: i just got some debug logs for the problem that from time to time GSM gets lost, can you have a look at them? Mar 27 16:17:35 bothj Mar 27 16:17:52 Heinervdm: absolutely, please mail them to me ( iguess they're large, right?) Mar 27 16:18:09 mickeyl: he sent me a url Mar 27 16:18:20 fine as well Mar 27 16:19:02 got it Mar 27 16:19:47 mickeyl: i forwarded the mail to you too Mar 27 16:20:23 ok Mar 27 16:21:11 mickeyl: http://pastie.org/1722545 Mar 27 16:21:19 mickeyl: tell me if you need more Mar 27 16:22:14 thanks, that's good Mar 27 16:22:38 ok Mar 27 16:23:45 i will try with an external ppp and then compare the logs via wireshark Mar 27 16:23:56 i guess we're sending something the pre doesn't like Mar 27 16:24:02 or not sending something it does expect Mar 27 16:24:17 ok Mar 27 16:24:30 i'd rather use the internal stack, if possible Mar 27 16:24:35 so i'll try to make this one work Mar 27 16:24:36 first Mar 27 16:24:47 the original pppd? Mar 27 16:25:14 no, the new one, internal Mar 27 16:25:27 if that doesn't work, we need to fall back on the external Mar 27 16:25:49 (internal/external to fsogsmd) Mar 27 16:25:50 hm palm has some patches for ppp Mar 27 16:25:58 http://palm.cdnetworks.net/opensource/2.1.0/ppp-2.4.3-patches.tgz Mar 27 16:26:04 ah, interesting Mar 27 16:26:07 currently looking if they are relevant for us Mar 27 16:27:31 hm, no critical patch Mar 27 16:27:40 as far as I can see Mar 27 16:28:53 only the cifdefroute seems relevant, although that one is effective only after IPCP has been established Mar 27 16:29:10 do we have the source for their plugin? Mar 27 16:29:12 plugin /usr/lib/libPmWanPppPlugin.so Mar 27 16:29:16 no Mar 27 16:29:19 bummer Mar 27 16:29:27 is pppd GPL? Mar 27 16:30:01 bsd gplv2 according to oe Mar 27 16:30:34 so dual-licensed? Mar 27 16:30:54 "All of the code can be freely used and redistributed. The individual Mar 27 16:30:55 source files each have their own copyright and permission notice. Mar 27 16:30:55 Pppd, pppstats and pppdump are under BSD-style notices. Some of the Mar 27 16:30:55 pppd plugins are GPL'd. Chat is public domain. Mar 27 16:30:55