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May 20 05:06:18 <JaMa|Zzz> larsc: awesome! thanks man!
May 20 05:15:10 <mrmoku> JaMa|Zzz: good news?
May 20 06:09:29 <JaMa|Zzz> mrmoku: 2.6.39 repos :)
May 20 06:09:54 <JaMa|Zzz> mrmoku: will build one today, but cannot test it before next week
May 20 06:10:31 <mrmoku> JaMa|Zzz: yo
May 20 06:56:32 * JaMa looking for tester :)
May 20 06:59:48 <GarthPS> moin
May 20 06:59:55 <JaMa> moin
May 20 07:06:01 <JaMa> 2.6.39 OE build available for test http://jama.dyndns-home.com/org.openembedded.shr.images/om-gta02/
May 20 07:08:11 * mrmoku downloads
May 20 07:47:46 * gencat 2.6.39 on SD panics
May 20 07:48:20 <JaMa> gencat: this build or your own?
May 20 07:49:07 <gencat> JaMa not I just downladed your image :(
May 20 07:49:35 <JaMa> ah do you have the log or something interesting from it?
May 20 07:51:09 <TAsn> http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/apple-causes-religious-reaction-in-brains-of-fans-say-neuroscientists/
May 20 07:53:18 <gencat> no I did not seen anything on the screen before the red led starts to blink 
May 20 07:54:48 <gencat> I'm going to test booting with uboot to see if I can see some messages
May 20 07:55:21 <JaMa> did you hold POWER longer to get debug output?
May 20 08:01:36 <mrmoku> JaMa: yeah, have a kernel panic too
May 20 08:02:42 <mrmoku> JaMa: and holding POWER does not help
May 20 08:06:19 <JaMa> :/
May 20 08:06:38 <JaMa> someone willing to test from nand?
May 20 08:10:22 <anarsoul> larsc: hi, are you here?
May 20 08:44:09 <gencat> booting from uboot just blanks screen http://paste.pocoo.org/show/392127/
May 20 08:46:38 <JaMa> gencat: shr/2.6.38+2.6.39-rc7+gitr11+356 this is not the latest 2.6.39 image
May 20 08:47:07 <JaMa> mmt checking my deploy dir
May 20 08:47:54 <JaMa> do you have  1.4M May 20 09:00 uImage-2.6.39-r0-oe0-om-gta02.bin ?
May 20 08:50:19 <gencat> I've -rw-r--r-- 1 jpddb jpddb 1458572 20 mai 09:15 Baixades/uImage-2.6.39-r0-oe0-om-gta02.bin 
May 20 08:51:04 * gencat going to test it from nand
May 20 08:51:16 <JaMa> wait
May 20 08:51:21 <JaMa> 2.6.38+2.6.39-rc7+gitr11+356 is just wrong
May 20 08:51:42 <JaMa> it's previous version not based on larsc new branches
May 20 08:53:11 <gencat> but it is the one on the full-om-gta02.tar.gz 
May 20 08:53:29 <JaMa> full is not yet built with it
May 20 08:53:32 <JaMa> I did just kernel
May 20 08:53:46 <JaMa> that's why you have this old version..
May 20 09:03:21 <gencat> ok http://paste.pocoo.org/show/392135/ also panics
May 20 09:04:21 <gencat> bbl
May 20 09:05:03 <JaMa> :(
May 20 09:31:36 <JaMa> daniele_athome: hey :)
May 20 09:32:02 <daniele_athome> JaMa, hi!
May 20 09:41:23 <daniele_athome> JaMa, how's going?
May 20 09:42:31 <JaMa> daniele_athome: I'm happy because larsc pushed new 2.6.39 branches, but sad that gencat reported that it panics only
May 20 09:43:31 <daniele_athome> eheh
May 20 09:43:58 <daniele_athome> JaMa, sadly i was not able these weeks to follow shr developments
May 20 09:44:20 <daniele_athome> in a couple of sentences, how would you update me about shr? :)
May 20 09:47:36 <JaMa> daniele_athome: new glib, new kernel, newer fso, but most work goes to n900/pre
May 20 09:48:20 <JaMa> daniele_athome: and I'm doing everything twice because I'm working on meta-smartphone and still trying to sync important changes back and forth with old oe :/
May 20 09:48:28 <daniele_athome> JaMa, sometimes i read the ML digests and i see the old openmoko phone(s) are getting... "deprecated"
May 20 09:48:56 <daniele_athome> i hope gta04 will bring some light to the openmoko phones world
May 20 09:49:19 <daniele_athome> JaMa, what do you mean by meta-smartphone?
May 20 09:49:29 <daniele_athome> you mean emulating all the stuff?
May 20 09:50:09 <JaMa> daniele_athome: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=meta-smartphone.git;a=summary
May 20 09:54:41 <daniele_athome> JaMa, why are you keeping your own tree with those configurations? couldn't you upload all to openembedded?
May 20 09:54:56 <daniele_athome> of course you can't :) but why?
May 20 10:49:00 <CIA-30> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r5045cb0a96c7 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-kernel/linux/ (linux-2.6.37/om-gta02/defconfig linux-openmoko_2.6.37.bb): linux-2.6.37: om-gta02 defconfig, enable BMP085 and INPUT_LIS302DL
May 20 10:49:01 <CIA-30> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r7443123f3169 10/meta-shr/conf/distro/shr.conf: shr: force empty TCLIBCAPPEND
May 20 10:49:02 <CIA-30> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rbc9b7d831c63 10/meta-shr/conf/distro/shr.conf: SHR: rename s/MACHINE_OVERRIDES/MACHINEOVERRIDES/ and fix format
May 20 12:29:41 * [Rui] waves
May 20 12:30:03 <[Rui]> JaMa: you take long vacations man :) June+July? we can't miss you for so long ;)
May 20 12:34:24 <JaMa> [Rui]: vacation is only 3,5 weeks, but before that I'm moving to new flat where I don't have internet connection yet..
May 20 12:34:49 <[Rui]> JaMa: hehe
May 20 12:34:54 <JaMa> and before moving I'll be busy with reconstruction there
May 20 12:34:57 <[Rui]> JaMa: oh I was just jealous
May 20 12:35:07 <[Rui]> oh?
May 20 12:36:07 <JaMa> I mean in flat.. some small repairs etc..
May 20 12:38:27 <JaMa> [Rui]: tslib is not supported in xserver-1.10, that's main reason why we're back to evdev
May 20 12:38:33 <[Rui]> I'm still a bit wasted from chickenpox
May 20 12:38:39 <[Rui]> oh
May 20 12:39:10 <[Rui]> well, the right mouse button was mostly needed to configure e's toolbar which was loaded of buttons in excess
May 20 12:39:25 <JaMa> [Rui]: here is some WIP if you really care about tslib.. http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/2009/
May 20 12:39:29 <[Rui]> making it very hard to call the soft key
May 20 12:39:46 <[Rui]> JaMa: I don't care about tslib I cared about being able to fix the top bar :)
May 20 12:40:25 <[Rui]> if the default top bar is no longer too crowded it's not even an issue :)
May 20 12:40:57 <[Rui]> but there was a time where each tap in the top bar without a pointer was very hard to make the soft key pop up
May 20 12:41:40 * JaMa leaving for weekend, bbl on monday
May 20 12:42:13 <[Rui]> JaMa: have a nice we :)
May 20 14:01:34 <rhaeder> http://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1447 <-- can someone please take a quick look in this?
May 20 14:19:14 <CIA-30> SHR: 03cvwillegen 07libphone-ui-shr * ra80bcc96152c 10/src/view/dialer-view.c: Also added 'Home phone' and 'Work phone' for suggestions.
May 20 15:27:00 <jeepingben> is there a known issue with 2.6.37 and badblocks table?
May 20 16:42:59 <GarthPS> does this sound familiar to someone when trying to ssh to shr ? "PTY allocation request failed on channel 0"
May 20 16:53:24 <jeepingben> GarthPS: you can do ln -s /usr/sbin/nand* /usr/bin/; ln -s /usr/sbin/flash* /usr/bin/
May 20 16:54:08 <GarthPS> jeepingben: ?! can you explain why ?
May 20 16:56:48 <jeepingben> there is an update in the feeds (according to trac) that will put the utils in the right place
May 20 16:57:14 <jeepingben> in the mean time, to complete the upgrade, you could link the mtd utils you have to the location opkg expects
May 20 17:02:42 <GarthPS> jeepingben: in fact I have just reflashed a new image so I don't get why I need to do that?
May 20 17:03:53 <GarthPS> plus as I am on shr on palmpre2 (and that here the terminal is broken due to this bug http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1326) then I can not fix it with your commands..
May 20 17:03:59 <GarthPS> so I am stuck..
May 20 17:09:47 <jeepingben> it looks like the images haven't been updated, they are from 5/18.  Can you ssh into the phone?
May 20 17:36:42 <GarthPS> jeepingben: no I can't! => "PTY allocation request failed on channel 0"
May 20 17:39:13 <CIA-30> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r6a16b874da3a 10/aurora/ (3 files in 3 dirs): aurora: implement first version of the fso dbus audio agent
May 20 17:39:15 <CIA-30> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * rb0039a45491e 10/aurora/aurora/main.qml: aurora: remove test of the modal dialog
May 20 17:39:16 <CIA-30> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r0939c5c889f7 10/aurora/components/common/LockScreen.qml: aurora: remove unused qml item
May 20 17:39:17 <CIA-30> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r65f97ae642f7 10/aurora/ (3 files in 3 dirs): aurora: show lock screen when device is locked or suspended
May 20 17:39:18 <CIA-30> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r98e1977bb1fc 10/aurora/ (3 files in 3 dirs): aurora: handle result of scheduled send-auth-code action after it is finished
May 20 17:39:22 <CIA-30> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r649d329becf7 10/aurora/aurora/patterns/dbuscache.py: aurora: print requested dbus service+object+interface to detect misspellings
May 20 17:39:23 <CIA-30> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r08ccc903f80b 10/aurora/components/common/Dialpad.qml: aurora: introduce active property for dialpad widget
May 20 17:39:24 <CIA-30> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r0f5d25f80699 10/aurora/ (4 files in 4 dirs): aurora: implement dbus agent for device display api and use it to handle idle states
May 20 17:39:48 <morphis> heyho
May 20 17:42:32 <angelox> morphis: hey
May 20 17:45:14 <morphis> angelox: you should now be able to insert your SIM pin with aurora
May 20 17:47:26 <angelox> morphis: cool thing! i've saw these changes! i'll try it soon,my pc is now slow because i'm running OE. I would ask another thing,there's someone already tested aurora in a phone ?
May 20 17:48:29 <morphis> me
May 20 17:48:50 <morphis> but only for the palmpre machine
May 20 17:49:37 <morphis> angelox: which machine do you use?
May 20 17:50:13 <angelox> morphis: hmm,it runs finely? i use a1200 machine
May 20 17:50:28 <morphis> it runs ok
May 20 17:55:16 <GarthPS> morphis: hi
May 20 17:56:24 <morphis> GarthPS: heyho
May 20 17:56:25 <morphis> mickeyl: ping
May 20 17:57:42 <CIA-30> freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07cornucopia * re319d0c89bc6 10/libfsobasics/ (5 files in 3 dirs): libfsobasics: use $SYSCONFDIR for configuration file detection
May 20 17:57:53 <playya> moin morphis 
May 20 17:58:04 <morphis> playya: heyho
May 20 17:58:20 <playya> ok. my setup is up to date :)
May 20 17:58:34 <playya> but compat links need some changes
May 20 17:58:52 <morphis> compat?
May 20 18:12:44 <morphis> hm ok, inserting the pin in aurora on the device works
May 20 18:12:49 <morphis> but auto starting fsogsmd not
May 20 18:13:59 <morphis> time for our shadow resources
May 20 18:16:59 <GarthPS> morphis: do you know who I can ping to track this bug down ? http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1326
May 20 18:17:02 <morphis> yeah and idle screen seems to work too!
May 20 18:17:14 <morphis> let me take a look
May 20 18:20:20 <morphis> hm, hard to say where to start best
May 20 18:22:15 <dcordes> Hi !
May 20 18:23:16 <morphis> dcordes: heyh
May 20 18:25:47 <GarthPS> morphis: hm?
May 20 18:36:02 <morphis> GarthPS: no idea
May 20 18:41:32 <morphis> mrmoku: ping
May 20 18:42:20 <GarthPS> morphis: anyway first of all I need to fix the ssh connection..
May 20 18:42:34 <morphis> why that?
May 20 18:42:44 <dcordes> anybody able to set topic ?
May 20 18:43:05 <dcordes> http://irclog.netripper.com/openmoko-cdevel very useful with search feature
May 20 18:43:38 <dcordes> ~
May 20 18:44:25 <GarthPS> morphis: currently I can't ssh into freshly flashed pre2 => "PTY allocation request failed on channel 0"
May 20 18:44:55 <morphis> hm, memory is full?
May 20 18:46:03 <morphis> anyway I am off for today
May 20 18:46:05 <morphis> bye
May 20 18:50:11 <GarthPS> shit I am stuck! can't ssh => broken to fix this I need to fix black rendered terminal on the device but to fix it I need to ssh..................
May 20 18:51:20 <angelox> GarthPS: i don't understand a bit of ssh,but what it's the error?
May 20 18:52:35 <GarthPS> angelox: when I try to ssh It fail returniong me this error => PTY allocation request failed on channel 0
May 20 18:54:28 <angelox> there's a folder/file named /dev/pts ?
May 20 18:55:27 <GarthPS> angelox: I can't tell you as I can see because of the other bug I want to fix but need ssh..
May 20 18:56:16 <GarthPS> perhaps I can loginto my device without ssh ?
May 20 18:57:00 <angelox> try make this one a script to run when your device powers up: http://pastie.org/1933030
May 20 18:57:55 <GarthPS> angelox: hmm.. yeah.. I was seeing things like that .. I will sse
May 20 18:58:27 * GarthPS need his phone right now so he has to wait
May 20 18:59:09 <angelox> btw,i wasn't seeing your conversations..what's your phone? PalmPre ?
May 20 19:00:40 <GarthPS> angelox: pre2
May 20 19:01:49 <angelox> interesting
May 20 19:02:26 <GarthPS> angelox: why ?.
May 20 19:04:12 <angelox> Cool Hardware,Cool CPU, Cool Phone :)
May 20 19:06:00 <GarthPS> angelox: :p
May 20 19:06:23 <GarthPS> angelox: but webos is far from bug proof..
May 20 19:06:48 <angelox> well,i said phone is interesting because i only have a small-old phone ;)
May 20 19:07:25 <jfthomps> I'm writing something in python and elementary. I have a hoversel with more options than will fit on the screen, and it won't scroll. Any idea if there is a way to make it scroll, and if not, is there a different widget I should be using instead?
May 20 19:08:32 <GarthPS> can't help 
May 20 19:14:27 <angelox> GarthPS: My script worked ?
May 20 19:14:41 * GarthPS need his phone right now so he has to wait =>angelox
May 20 19:14:56 <GarthPS> angelox: I am waiting a call..
May 20 19:15:17 <angelox> ah ok,sorry i didn't undertand :)
May 20 19:16:59 <angelox> s/undertand/understand/
May 20 19:16:59 <apt> angelox meant: ah ok,sorry i didn't understand :)
May 20 19:17:43 <GarthPS> np. oh fuck the call :)
May 20 19:19:04 <angelox> :)
May 20 19:24:54 <GarthPS> angelox: I did this and I worked! http://www.freenux.fr/Erreur-SSH-PTY-allocation-request.html
May 20 19:27:34 <mrmoku> morphis: pong
May 20 19:29:12 <angelo_> cool GarthPS :)
May 20 19:42:33 <GNUtoo> for the record the ssh pty allocation error is caused by the conflict of udev and devtmpfs
May 20 19:42:46 <GNUtoo> when you have both it causes that
May 20 19:45:30 <dcordes> GNUtoo: read your ping in the log
May 20 19:45:38 <dcordes> GNUtoo: what about alsa file plugin ?
May 20 19:46:30 <GNUtoo> dcordes, it permit you to make alsa write to the android dsp
May 20 19:46:47 <GNUtoo> which doesn't provide any alsa controls
May 20 19:47:02 <GNUtoo> but still permit applications that are alsa compatible to write audio to the card
May 20 19:47:06 <GNUtoo> *sound card
May 20 19:48:31 <dcordes> GNUtoo: can I use it with mplayer ?
May 20 19:48:40 <GNUtoo> yes of course
May 20 19:48:43 <GNUtoo> with every alsa apps
May 20 19:48:54 <GNUtoo> the things that won't work are:
May 20 19:48:56 <GNUtoo> *routing
May 20 19:49:04 <GNUtoo> *hardware volume control
May 20 19:49:52 <GNUtoo> it always end up like this with people that work alone, they never end up publishing the source
May 20 19:50:00 <GNUtoo> for instance druidu got alsa working
May 20 19:50:02 <GNUtoo> long time ago
May 20 19:50:08 <GNUtoo> he didn't publish and disapeared
May 20 19:50:13 <GNUtoo> same for cotulla
May 20 19:50:30 <GNUtoo> but there is a hope:
May 20 19:50:35 <GNUtoo> palm pre 3 will be out soon
May 20 19:50:45 <GNUtoo> they are qualcomm chips
May 20 19:56:06 <dcordes> GNUtoo: webos uses alsa ?
May 20 19:56:16 <GNUtoo> alsa with pulse on top
May 20 19:56:27 <GNUtoo> they used alsa on the pixie
May 20 19:56:29 <GNUtoo> for instance
May 20 19:56:35 <GNUtoo> pixie was an msm soc
May 21 02:45:46 <antrik> DocScrutinizer: fdisk always issues the call to reload the partition table; but this doesn't work if any partition on the disk is currently mounted. that's why the reboot is necessary when repartitioning the system disk for example
May 21 02:46:40 <DocScrutinizer> heh, nice find
May 21 02:46:41 <antrik> (manually issuing partprobe won't change that, as long as any partition is mounted)
May 21 02:47:05 <DocScrutinizer> makes a lot of sense
May 21 02:50:23 <DocScrutinizer> you can't reload the partition table of a mounted device - or other way round you can't hold a mount plus associated filelocks and whatnot of a partition that may change in virtually all of its properties, even may cease to exist at all
May 21 02:51:30 <DocScrutinizer> now what's been the original proplem? :-)
May 21 02:52:17 <DocScrutinizer> if you find what you want to do can't be done, you usually shouldn't do what you wanted to
May 21 02:53:11 <DocScrutinizer> i.e. there's probably some flaw in basic design, procedure, or implementation
May 21 02:54:42 <DocScrutinizer> aaah that's been some pre thing. Well I got no clue about that platform
May 21 02:56:34 <DocScrutinizer> plus LVM, :shudder:
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