**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 29 02:59:58 2011 May 29 07:08:20 mickeyl: hi, could you please consider to merge this patch? https://github.com/radekp/fso-specs/commit/75415d3de6c4bb3edcaa2fca07705af105fce3d0 May 29 07:22:07 Hi, is this the right opkg source: http://build.shr-project.org/tests/shr-testing/ipk/ (the 3 folders here) May 29 07:27:24 for what? May 29 07:28:02 for me :-D May 29 07:28:17 sorry I don't know your needs and expectations :) May 29 07:28:39 "testing" version May 29 07:28:42 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing2011.1/ but for most shr-t users is this better May 29 07:29:12 oh yeah, that was the other one I wanted to ask. Those URLs are in -opkg files for me. May 29 07:29:26 overwrite .conf with .conf-opkg then? May 29 07:29:39 tests/shr-testing is "live" build.. May 29 07:29:45 but I don't want to modify it when 2011.2 will be out May 29 07:30:03 hm... already upgraded to that "live" just now. May 29 07:30:18 it should be the same as shr-testing2011.1 now May 29 07:30:37 it's different when someone is building something May 29 07:30:47 ok. and is the armv4 dir gone? It reported missing Packages.gz May 29 07:30:57 after finished build (when indexes are right etc) it's rsynced to shr-testing2011.1 May 29 07:31:19 ok, I'll create dummy armv4 May 29 07:31:41 I deleted that armv4 source when i saw the dir is gone May 29 07:32:24 that's ok too May 29 07:32:57 thank you for help! May 29 07:33:48 yw May 29 07:34:19 hm, only pidgin has icon now May 29 07:36:17 try removing .e May 29 07:37:46 I don't understand, sorry. May 29 07:39:37 ~root/.e folder? May 29 07:39:44 can you ssh into it? May 29 07:39:50 yes May 29 07:40:05 yes; /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop; rm -rf /root/.e; /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm start May 29 07:40:34 and "yes;: wasn't part of that command :) May 29 07:40:51 :D it worked, it says y y y y y y ;-) May 29 07:41:21 btw, the command worked. it's funny to stop X May 29 07:41:25 thank you, icons are back! May 29 07:41:54 yeah, it's funny to do it on device without ssh :) May 29 07:41:57 and the task swticher field also works now, great. (previously I made an icon to start it manually) May 29 07:42:54 if you have 2 more minutes, "terminal" does not work for me. It does not start. "loading" field appears for a second and gone. May 29 07:43:23 vala-terminal? May 29 07:43:47 try to start it from ssh to see the error May 29 07:44:57 ah, same error message as with vi. May 29 07:45:05 vala-terminal: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory May 29 07:49:54 "opkg files ncurses" lists only some data files, no shared libraries, is that normal? May 29 07:50:26 ackage ncurses (5.7+20100501-r15.6) May 29 07:51:40 yes, libncurses5 or something like that is right May 29 07:52:13 LionKMP: or libncursesw5 May 29 07:52:59 sorry gotta go, thank you! May 29 07:53:03 LionKMP: try opkg remove -force-depends vala-termina; opkg install vala-terminal May 29 07:53:17 LionKMP: I guess libpanelw5 is also missing for you May 29 08:35:58 ok, I tried those but didn't help. opkg files libncurses5 says this is not installed, but any other commands say it is installed. I'll try this later! thanks! May 29 08:36:23 btw reinstalling vala-terminal isntalled libgtk... gotta go. May 29 08:47:13 morphis: heyho May 29 08:47:20 JaMa|Off: heyho May 29 08:47:25 morphis: how did qt4-embedded go? May 29 08:47:32 can I push? May 29 08:48:48 yeah, you can May 29 08:49:00 it compiled fine yesterday for me and the resulting packages looks like the same as before May 29 08:50:21 thanks May 29 08:53:54 no problem :) May 29 08:54:01 good you discovered this May 29 08:55:09 heh, I'm used to buildhost building qt when I'm going to bed and then still building it next day morning.. but if it's still building it next day evening I notice :) May 29 08:57:47 hehe May 29 08:57:55 yeah, qt4 need some time to build May 29 09:00:01 shr-core, shr-image build ... well after removing few stuff from task-shr :) May 29 09:03:29 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r44db02807522 10/aurora/ (aurora/extensions/agents.py components/system/Controller.qml): aurora: more work on network management in our main controller component May 29 09:03:52 JaMa|Off: do we even build regular images for the palmpre on the shr buildhost? May 29 09:23:55 yes, palmpre as well as palmpre2 May 29 09:24:12 currently I'm building nokia900 palmpre2 palmpre htcdream om-gta02 om-gta01 May 29 09:26:19 morphis: if you meant for shr-u May 29 09:26:34 morphis: shr-core I'm building only nokia900 and om-gta02 May 29 09:26:37 ok May 29 09:26:58 but with fixed rebuilding issue in bitbake we can build more in shr-core too May 29 11:20:14 hi! May 29 11:21:55 * dcordes thinks it's a good day to install oe-core based shr env. May 29 11:23:40 lol http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SHR_(operating_system)&diff=421396017&oldid=416654801 May 29 11:24:39 * dcordes reads shr wiki May 29 11:25:06 * The iphone port seem abandoned (By Lopi) May 29 11:25:09 good news lol May 29 11:27:18 according to mailing list, shr is a new "smartphone" layer now May 29 11:27:28 will http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building SHR give that new layer ? May 29 11:29:06 yes May 29 11:32:48 cool May 29 11:33:52 why is 64bit the "default" host system ? May 29 11:33:58 because I have it May 29 11:34:17 I would rather make setup-shr-chroot expect 32bit and add setup-shr-chroot-64bit to do the 64 bit May 29 11:35:05 it hurts my feelings to read 32bit is less tested May 29 11:35:26 * JaMa|Off refuses to build everything twice May 29 11:36:11 then use 32bit in order to assure quality to more people May 29 11:36:12 well I already build everything twice and really refuse to build everything four times :) May 29 11:36:52 you can use 32bit everyday and report issues if you find any May 29 11:37:15 or I can even give you R/W to shr-chroot to maintain it May 29 11:37:17 Migrate old data/builds to shr-chroot environment May 29 11:37:28 ^^^ I assume my old org.oe.dev env is useless to this ? May 29 11:38:05 you can still build normal shr-u with shr-chroot May 29 11:38:19 JaMa|Off: I plan to use "manual" setup in the long run. I'm just using Makefile / chroot now because I have no clue about the new layer system etc. May 29 11:38:42 aim is to add htcleo machine in oe-core May 29 11:38:51 good May 29 11:38:58 there si meta-htc ready for you May 29 11:39:12 how can I add it ? May 29 11:39:24 meta-htc is part of meta-smartphone May 29 11:39:44 Makefile clones meta-smartphone for me so I'm set ? May 29 11:39:47 and bblayers.conf already has it May 29 11:39:50 yes May 29 11:39:57 now I see an additional point in the smartphone layer idea May 29 11:40:12 very nice May 29 12:03:16 $ su - bitbake May 29 12:03:16 Unbekannte ID: bitbake May 29 12:03:19 :-( May 29 12:13:36 setup-shr-chroot is replacing UID/GID with your current user May 29 12:13:38 check that May 29 12:16:58 thanks May 29 12:17:58 really looking forward to use oe-core . It feels wrong to use old metadata that starts to gain dust May 29 12:18:54 btw did the intel / linuxfoundation backing change anything regarding th OE E.V. ? May 29 12:19:18 I mean in the context of "stearing" May 29 12:20:07 intel obviously has vital interests to preserve in oe so I'm sure they want to make important decisions May 29 12:20:12 more or less on their own May 29 12:25:06 dcordes, hi May 29 12:28:48 hey gnu May 29 12:33:24 JaMa|Off: ok done May 29 12:33:31 JaMa|Off: where can I check available machine types ? May 29 12:33:47 ah conf/machine/ still exists :) May 29 12:34:08 and I'm a bit puzzled about htcleo.conf existance May 29 12:34:14 I thought it was discarded May 29 12:34:18 *_* May 29 12:42:16 it wasn't imported May 29 13:57:47 JaMa|Off: but why do I see it in the local metadata fetched by Makefile if it was discarded ? May 29 16:44:28 JaMa|Off: still around ? May 29 16:47:16 yo May 29 16:47:40 TAsn: utd? May 29 16:50:48 man utd May 29 16:50:50 nvm, we lost. May 29 16:50:51 :) May 29 16:50:55 or more correctly :( May 29 16:51:03 my hopes were up before the game. May 29 16:51:32 especially when they scored the equalizer May 29 16:54:39 * JaMa|Off back May 29 16:54:44 dcordes: where do you see it? May 29 16:54:54 dcordes: I guess not in meta-smartphone/meta-htc May 29 17:00:09 JaMa|Off: where can I find the meta-smartphone/meta-htc directory ? May 29 17:03:34 JaMa|Off: in the present oe directory makefile gave me I checked git branch and it only has a master branch May 29 17:06:10 did you make setup-shr-core? May 29 17:13:07 TAsn: ahh... had no time to watch it anyway May 29 17:13:16 was busy playing myself ;) May 29 17:14:06 lucky bastard, haven't played for a month :( May 29 17:15:25 :) May 29 17:15:39 my body feels like not playing for the next two months now though May 29 17:15:45 JaMa|Off: of course not. I stupidly copy pasted the commandlines May 29 17:15:58 * mrmoku too old for a weekend of soccer :P May 29 17:26:39 GNUtoo: hi May 29 17:36:56 mrmoku, haha, yeah, I'll probably feel the same next time I play. May 29 17:38:06 hi GNUtoo May 29 17:38:16 GNUtoo: I did not (yet) work on kernel config May 29 17:38:33 I can take a look at the usbnet problem though if you want May 29 17:38:40 starting from the patch you posted May 29 17:39:28 ok May 29 17:39:37 mrmoku, hi May 29 17:39:40 angelox, hi May 29 17:39:50 mrmoku, JaMa pushed my patch May 29 17:39:51 in oe May 29 17:40:25 GNUtoo: ok, great May 29 17:40:31 will build it then as first step May 29 17:40:36 brb May 29 17:40:37 ok May 29 17:41:18 GNUtoo: i think soon i'll can buy a N900,got a small work to make a application May 29 17:41:44 nice May 29 17:50:47 JaMa|Off:" and setup preferred shr version.'" May 29 17:51:06 JaMa|Off: do you think we should include the new stuff there ? May 29 17:51:35 "for bleeding edge development pick make setup-shr-core **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 29 18:06:11 2011 May 29 18:10:52 dcordes: yes, please update it May 29 18:11:02 dcordes: shr-core is ready for public now :) May 29 18:11:11 * JaMa|Off returned from roof May 29 18:11:36 JaMa|Off: wtf are you doing on the roof :D May 29 18:12:09 sawing lightning conductor May 29 18:12:11 :) May 29 18:13:32 you got fed up of it ? May 29 18:13:33 JaMa|Off: you found a better use for those lighning bolts? May 29 18:15:45 http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building SHR?version=93 May 29 18:15:57 ~seen mickeyl May 29 18:16:06 mickeyl is currently on #webos-internals #htc-linux #oe #openmoko #openezx #openmoko-cdevel. Has said a total of 362 messages. Is idling for 2d 23h 31m 19s, last said: 'morphis: need to leave now, i still can remove branches, just tell me which ones'. May 29 18:16:14 DocScrutinizer: copper is expensive now .. :) May 29 18:16:25 it wasn't connected to ground for many years May 29 18:16:47 so it's safer without and now there are higher houses around.. May 29 18:16:51 duh, those lightning conductors usually are zinc plated steel, no? May 29 18:17:19 but copper wire cca 1cm diameter from the top to the ground May 29 18:17:30 incredible May 29 18:17:33 we have 3 floors so something like 20 meters May 29 18:18:10 never seen a lightning conductor that had any copper parts May 29 18:18:25 both our houses had it this way May 29 18:18:29 must be veeery old May 29 18:18:34 sure it was May 29 18:19:24 anybody got news from mickeyl ? May 29 18:20:00 3 days idle looks like he's busy with sth :-) May 29 18:20:36 JaMa|Off: how about automatically obtain bitbake in makefile ? May 29 18:20:44 and aiui it's been about time he (and sabine) was May 29 18:21:42 dcordes: bitbake is maintained by chroot May 29 18:21:54 s/chroot/me in chroot/ :) May 29 18:22:35 * JaMa|Off opened beer just in case... May 29 18:22:37 JaMa|Off: I can't find it May 29 18:22:57 dcordes: I mean bitbake should be installed in chroot environment May 29 18:23:18 dcordes: but if you're using 32bit version then I should update it for you May 29 18:23:32 dcordes: anyways you can do "make setup-bitbake" :) May 29 18:24:54 full backup running >24 hours looks wrong :/ May 29 18:25:16 JaMa|Off: I'm confused by the howto May 29 18:25:32 ~seen playya_ May 29 18:25:35 playya_ is currently on #webos-internals (25m 59s) #oe (25m 59s) #openmoko (25m 59s) #openmoko-cdevel (25m 59s), last said: 'JaMa, strange. it runs on my n900 under maemo'. May 29 18:25:38 feel free to improve it or ask question May 29 18:25:39 s May 29 18:26:01 well it says once I ran that script as root, I don't need to run it again. but if I don't run any script it can't find the bitbake path May 29 18:26:09 so I suppose I'm msising something May 29 18:26:17 script? May 29 18:26:21 ./shr-chroot.sh? May 29 18:27:16 you can allow sudo for mount/umount/chroot and run it as normal user May 29 18:27:32 hmm May 29 18:27:52 then once inside chroot you should switch to bitbake May 29 18:27:58 and .bashrc should show it to you May 29 18:27:59 slightly OT: what's .sh (apart from a shellscript obviously). Is this a best-practice, even a IANA registered file extension, some sort hint somebody came up with out of a mood? May 29 18:28:03 I will try to copy my local.conf and source-me.sh instead :) May 29 18:28:07 from classic setup. May 29 18:28:35 dcordes: wtf? May 29 18:28:54 dcordes: are you talking about shr-chroot script or setup-env script? May 29 18:29:27 I did this May 29 18:29:30 wget http://build.shr-project.org/Makefile May 29 18:29:34 make setup-shr-chroot-32bit May 29 18:29:49 cd shr-chroot-32bit May 29 18:30:01 sofar good May 29 18:30:05 sudo ./shr-chroot.sh May 29 18:30:15 good May 29 18:30:20 then I logged in with my 'normal user' again May 29 18:30:25 logged? May 29 18:30:44 I eventually got the idea .sh would signal non-executable files to source in your shell May 29 18:30:45 Now you don't need root anymore, so switch to prepared bitbake account and setup preferred shr version. May 29 18:31:00 after sudo ./shr-chroot.sh you should do "su - bitbake" in that shell May 29 18:31:09 dcordes: do you know how chroot command work? May 29 18:31:20 $ su - bitbake May 29 18:31:20 Unbekannte ID: bitbake May 29 18:31:56 seen it and replied to you May 29 18:32:10 14:12:56 < JaMa|Off> setup-shr-chroot is replacing UID/GID with your current user May 29 18:32:10 this concept would make some sense to me as there's no shebang line you (as cmd "file" or whatever) could easily tell from that it's a shell-"executable" May 29 18:32:13 14:12:59 < JaMa|Off> check that May 29 18:32:39 14:12 < JaMa|Off> setup-shr-chroot is replacing UID/GID with your current user May 29 18:32:47 JaMa: I am not sure I understand that May 29 18:32:56 JaMa: mcan you restate ? May 29 18:33:02 open Makefil May 29 18:33:38 and look at setup-shr-chroot May 29 18:33:40 it does: May 29 18:33:41 sed -i "s#bitbake:x:1026:1026::/OE:/bin/bash#bitbake:x:`id -u`:`id -g`::/OE:/bin/bash#g" etc/passwd; \ May 29 18:33:44 sed -i "s#bitbake:x:1026:bitbake#bitbake:x:`id -g`:bitbake#g" etc/group; \ May 29 18:34:24 ok what odes that tell me ? May 29 18:34:42 hmm maybe you're calling su - bitbake in different shell? May 29 18:34:42 nobody to teach me about supposed meaning of *.sh "file extension"? May 29 18:34:54 JaMa: no May 29 18:35:01 DocScrutinizer: for me it's best practise.. May 29 18:35:15 for all shellscripts? May 29 18:35:17 dcordes: show me pastebin from your shell session because I don't belive you ;) May 29 18:36:14 or maybe only for those that aren't in $PATH ? May 29 18:36:38 DocScrutinizer: not sure but ie for shell wrappers which are named the same as target binary I'm not using .sh May 29 18:37:24 hmm, yeah. Obviously. That's why I ask - always trying to improve my skills :-) May 29 18:37:47 * JaMa is using it for no special reason, so probably not best source :) May 29 18:38:07 chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory May 29 18:38:16 fair enough :-) thanks neertheless May 29 18:38:22 aha May 29 18:39:14 DocScrutinizer: and I prefer shebang lines in my sh/bash scripts May 29 18:39:30 DocScrutinizer: if I were to migrate my old non-chroot setup, what would I have to care of ? May 29 18:39:31 and executable bit set May 29 18:39:43 DocScrutinizer: i.e. right now I have local.conf and source-me.sh May 29 18:39:52 to do all the configuration May 29 18:39:52 dcordes: sorry, no clue May 29 18:40:10 it seems to me using chroot adds nonsense complications May 29 18:40:50 * JaMa still haven't seen that pastebin <- this is nonsense complication May 29 18:42:32 because :20:37:26 < dcordes> chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory: is nonsense.. I can show you that file even in git http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr-chroot.git;a=history;f=bin/bash;h=52e3a86499e117277d5e4bcfb1585d6ee648894e;hb=32bit May 29 18:44:27 JaMa: what file ? May 29 18:45:09 /bin/bash May 29 18:45:35 so you're running shr-chroot in wrong dir probably or I have no idea what you're doing there May 29 19:13:11 JaMa: this the content of the directory shr-chroot.sh is in. I'm running it from that same directory. May 29 19:13:17 bin dev etc lib lib64 media OE proc README root sbin shr-chroot.sh sys tmp usr var May 29 19:18:47 dcordes: could you pretty please pastebin that shell session? May 29 19:21:57 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rfae2d21a1aec 10/meta-shr/recipes-support/navit/ (4 files in 2 dirs): navit: add bbappend with our stuff May 29 19:22:07 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r73ec9df4f7b9 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/tasks/task-shr.bb: task-shr: drop few apps in order to make this parseble May 29 19:22:17 JaMa: not sure what you mean by shell session ? May 29 19:23:40 content of your terminal window where you did make setup-shr-chroot etc May 29 20:21:00 JaMa: sorry for sounding rude. I had a 'semi relaxed' day.. if it will help I can provide the debug output for the Makefile tomorrow, need to go to bed now May 29 20:21:03 good night May 29 21:16:13 hi mrmoku May 29 21:18:28 pespin: ping May 29 21:19:27 Lopi, pong May 29 21:19:34 pespin: check your pm May 29 21:20:13 ok, gime some minuts and I'll check it :) May 29 21:20:21 kk May 29 21:53:13 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r13c0877e5024 10/meta-fso/recipes-freesmartphone/freesmartphone/ (mdbus2_git.bb mioctl_git.bb mkdump_git.bb mterm2_git.bb): meta-fso: add LIC_FILES_CHKSUM for tools May 29 22:02:48 gnight all May 29 22:04:03 captainigloo: ping, you around? May 29 22:40:02 hello! May 29 22:48:22 good night May 29 22:51:15 captainigloo, hey looking to try and get your UI working on a Pandora May 29 23:08:36 Hello May 29 23:09:25 Does it worth to open a wikireader? talking about hw side, i mean some unpopulated connectors.. May 29 23:10:01 USB perhaps? :-) May 29 23:19:20 kristianpaul: it doesn't run linux. usb port wouldn't be that useful really :) May 29 23:36:33 lindi-_: true :-) May 29 23:37:57 who know may be forth can wonder us on that :-) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon May 30 02:59:59 2011