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Jun 14 07:07:31 <GNUtoo> morphis is not there...hmmm
Jun 14 09:50:36 <DocScrutinizer> anybody could do me a favour about kernel stuff?
Jun 14 09:51:32 <DocScrutinizer> check bq27000 kernel driver of OM, and how far it propagated upstream, and why it didn't make it further if applicable and answerable
Jun 14 09:52:03 <DocScrutinizer> larsc: ^^^?
Jun 14 09:52:54 <larsc> everything is upstream
Jun 14 09:53:04 <DocScrutinizer> oh
Jun 14 09:53:39 <DocScrutinizer> what's the exact def of "everything"? relating bq27000, or everything OM?
Jun 14 09:53:40 <larsc> or at least something feature equivalent
Jun 14 09:53:46 <larsc> bq27000
Jun 14 09:54:13 <DocScrutinizer> aiui the upstream thing *might* be incomplete fsckdup crap
Jun 14 09:55:00 <DocScrutinizer> reporting weird uncooked internal values that need to get multiplied by resistor value of shunt, and also not providing all the sysnodes OM driver had
Jun 14 09:55:11 <larsc> you probably understand it wrong
Jun 14 09:55:16 <larsc> thats all got fixed
Jun 14 09:55:39 <DocScrutinizer> mhm, so the upstream driver actually is basically 'ours'?
Jun 14 09:56:20 <DocScrutinizer> good to know, if that's the case
Jun 14 09:57:03 <DocScrutinizer> larsc: do you have a html URL to the mainline source for a noob like me?
Jun 14 09:57:38 <DocScrutinizer> just if you got it at hand
Jun 14 09:58:31 <larsc> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=tree;f=drivers/power/bq27x00_battery.c
Jun 14 09:58:56 <DocScrutinizer> thanks a lot!
Jun 14 09:59:17 <DocScrutinizer> hmm 404
Jun 14 10:00:00 <larsc> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=drivers/power/bq27x00_battery.c;h=bb16f5b7e167490519d2793cbaa1546192e447f5;hb=HEAD
Jun 14 10:00:08 <larsc> seems like you need the hash
Jun 14 10:01:17 <DocScrutinizer> nm, clicking my way down arbitrary branch
Jun 14 10:07:33 <DocScrutinizer> PaulFertser: \o/
Jun 14 10:07:53 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: hey man :)
Jun 14 10:08:16 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: i'm back from the trip finally, it was cool :)
Jun 14 10:08:23 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: how's it going?
Jun 14 10:08:24 <DocScrutinizer> spent all my morning ranting about bq27k driver and bme ;-)
Jun 14 10:09:07 <PaulFertser> Have you managed to convince some poor souls that are still not aware of the "shortcomings" of the way nokia did it? ;)
Jun 14 10:09:14 <DocScrutinizer> seems the driver (like all sane drivers) occupies the I2C direct access to the chip when modprobed
Jun 14 10:09:44 <PaulFertser> Sounds sane indeed
Jun 14 10:10:04 <DocScrutinizer> meego is using this driver, but they still use some flavour of bme blob cooked in sulphuric acid
Jun 14 10:10:22 * PaulFertser likes Pulster a lot, should certainly buy something from him
Jun 14 10:10:33 <DocScrutinizer> so once the driver got loaded, bme will fail to access the chip XP
Jun 14 10:12:27 <PaulFertser> meego folks are weird, sometimes it seems like they got no clew whatsoever but they seem to show at least some positive results.
Jun 14 10:17:41 <DocScrutinizer> they have incredible endurance and faith in their project - that's for sure
Jun 14 10:18:25 <DocScrutinizer> using bme instead of some KISS approach for battery charging is one of the weirder things they did
Jun 14 10:29:55 <mickey|office> PaulFertser: "As to the flash-based/using services in general (even as a PoC) i can
Jun 14 10:29:55 <mickey|office> only echo it once again: it'd be nicer if those devs just went and
Jun 14 10:29:55 <mickey|office> hugged their girls instead as it would have at least some potential at
Jun 14 10:29:55 <mickey|office> making this world better, imho.". Now that's an _amazing_ quote, thanks :D
Jun 14 10:30:15 <DocScrutinizer> wowowow MICKEY
Jun 14 10:30:19 <mickey|office> hi DocScrutinizer
Jun 14 10:30:51 <PaulFertser> mickey|office: hey! i'm rather glad to see you again :)
Jun 14 10:31:46 <mickey|office> PaulFertser: :)
Jun 14 10:31:57 * DocScrutinizer suggests to  freenode to allow 40char nick for mickey|office|bigdaddy
Jun 14 10:32:03 <mickey|office> hehehe
Jun 14 10:32:09 <mickey|office> ya, nick length is ridicolously short
Jun 14 10:32:18 <mickey|office> ~spell ridicolously
Jun 14 10:32:20 <apt> possible spellings for ridicolously: ridiculously ridiculous meticulously ridicules ridicule's
Jun 14 10:32:20 <PaulFertser> Oh, big things happend while i was absent, congratulations!
Jun 14 10:32:25 <mickey|office> thanks :)
Jun 14 10:46:11 <GarthPS> hello everyone
Jun 14 10:46:26 <GarthPS> does someone has error with bitbake parsing ? http://pastebin.com/cL5FLA0N
Jun 14 10:50:59 <mickey|office> never seen that one, try removing the cache (rm -rf tmp/cache) and let it reparse again. if it doesn't stop, take a look at the recipe in question, perhaps someone committed a broken line, it looks like it wants to parse the DEPENDS, but has a null object instead of a string
Jun 14 10:51:05 <mickey|office> bbl, lunch
Jun 14 10:51:13 <mickey|office> s/stop/work/
Jun 14 11:34:58 <DocScrutinizer> larsc: sorry for pestering :-/ 
Jun 14 11:34:59 <GarthPS> mickey|office: I did remove tmp/cache but still the same error and what is weird is that the last recipe commit is 3 month old so ...
Jun 14 11:35:07 * DocScrutinizer <---fool
Jun 14 11:35:17 <DocScrutinizer> 1) Upstream merges
Jun 14 11:35:19 <DocScrutinizer> The bq27x00 and wm8753 branches have been merged upstream.
Jun 14 11:40:57 <DocScrutinizer> larsc: WTF? our write performance to MMC is better than our read performance? that's for sure unusual
Jun 14 11:48:09 <DocScrutinizer> what about that eMMC regression and the state of new kerenl now?
Jun 14 11:49:04 <DocScrutinizer> Von: Martin Jansa <martin.jansa@gmail.com>
Jun 14 11:49:06 <DocScrutinizer> Datum: 2011-05-26 21:52
Jun 14 11:49:08 <DocScrutinizer> uSD works fine after reverting Per Forlin's MMC patches and glamo-mci modifications to use them.
Jun 14 11:50:52 * DocScrutinizer vaguely recalls recent user complaints about uSD not working on GTA02...  probably over at #openmoko
Jun 14 12:33:29 <ex-parrot> anyone around with experience running SHR on an HTC Magic phone?
Jun 14 12:34:00 <ex-parrot> (basically an HTC Dream without the keyboard as I understand it)
Jun 14 12:36:09 <ex-parrot> I can't seem to get any further than the carrier logo screen
Jun 14 12:47:21 <paulk> ex-parrot: I guess you should ask GNUtoo
Jun 14 12:57:10 <SystemR89> hi
Jun 14 12:57:52 <SystemR89> can I ask to you for gsmd?
Jun 14 13:11:07 <GNUtoo> SystemR89, hi
Jun 14 13:11:21 <SystemR89> hi
Jun 14 13:11:47 <SystemR89> I've a teltonika rut-104
Jun 14 13:11:58 <GNUtoo> SystemR89, how did you format the microsd card?
Jun 14 13:12:16 <SystemR89> in proprietary firmware they use a modified version of gsmd
Jun 14 13:12:52 <GNUtoo> specs?
Jun 14 13:12:57 <GNUtoo> ex-parrot, hi
Jun 14 13:13:10 <GNUtoo> oops I meant:
Jun 14 13:13:16 <GNUtoo> ex-parrot,  how did you format the microsd card?
Jun 14 13:13:21 <PaulFertser> SystemR89: are you sure? Are you talking about the old gtk stack version of gsmd?
Jun 14 13:14:20 <SystemR89> yeah they use gsmd: # gsmd -h
Jun 14 13:14:20 <SystemR89> gsmd - (C) 2006-2007 by OpenMoko, Inc. and contributors
Jun 14 13:14:20 <SystemR89> This program is FREE SOFTWARE under the terms of GNU GPL
Jun 14 13:15:43 <GNUtoo> is it a phone, or is it a router?
Jun 14 13:15:57 <SystemR89> they developed a vendor plugin for hso interfaces (I think that is their work, right?)
Jun 14 13:16:01 <SystemR89> router
Jun 14 13:16:04 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 14 13:16:35 <SystemR89> but I can't find the sources, this a gpl violation?
Jun 14 13:16:41 <GNUtoo> possible
Jun 14 13:16:47 <GNUtoo> did you receive an offer for source
Jun 14 13:16:56 <SystemR89> no..
Jun 14 13:17:38 <SystemR89> where's the latest gsmd source repo?
Jun 14 13:17:54 <GNUtoo> then I guess it's a gpl violation
Jun 14 13:18:16 <GNUtoo> maybe hackable-1 has gsmd too
Jun 14 13:18:41 <dos1> old gsmd was at svn.openmoko.org
Jun 14 13:19:03 <GNUtoo> we should contact sflc or gpl-violations.org
Jun 14 13:19:17 <dos1> http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/gsm/
Jun 14 13:19:33 <dos1> but I think h:1 forked it
Jun 14 13:20:54 <dos1> SystemR89: anyway, they probably used Openmoko's version from SVN above
Jun 14 13:21:47 <SystemR89> svn access is restricted?
Jun 14 13:22:15 <SystemR89> svn co svn://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target;module=gsm doesn't work...
Jun 14 13:22:43 <dos1> dunno, it's old, unused repo
Jun 14 13:22:48 <dos1> maybe try via http
Jun 14 13:26:46 <SystemR89> ok, i found in sources h1 but hso module doesn't exist
Jun 14 13:26:53 <SystemR89> https://trac.hackable1.org/trac/browser/trunk/src/core/gsm/src/libgsmd
Jun 14 13:27:19 <SystemR89> so I think that this is really a gpl violation..
Jun 14 13:30:55 <ex-parrot> hi GNUtoo: I formatted it in an SD card adapter on my PC, used fdisk to make a new partition table with a "Linux" type partition, then mkfs -t ext3'd it
Jun 14 13:32:14 <GNUtoo> ex-parrot, did you compile the kernel yourself?
Jun 14 13:32:26 <ex-parrot> no GNUtoo, I'm using the latest unstable binary from the SHR website
Jun 14 13:32:34 <GNUtoo> ah that won't work
Jun 14 13:32:43 <GNUtoo> I forgott to add magic support in it
Jun 14 13:32:44 <ex-parrot> aha :) 
Jun 14 13:32:50 <ex-parrot> I tried revision 20 and revision 17
Jun 14 13:32:53 <ex-parrot> with the same results
Jun 14 13:34:25 <ex-parrot> what's needed to add magic support when building the kernel? I'm not averse to building my own but is it a patch, a configure option or what?
Jun 14 13:35:35 <SystemR89> how I should proceed?
Jun 14 13:44:21 <ex-parrot> ah there we go, got the kernel going
Jun 14 13:44:56 <ex-parrot> would be good to know what's req'd to add magic support while building my own though
Jun 14 13:45:52 <GNUtoo> ex-parrot, configure option
Jun 14 13:46:02 <ex-parrot> GNUtoo: too easy :)
Jun 14 13:46:14 <ex-parrot> iirc it is the "sapphire" configure option?
Jun 14 13:46:30 <GNUtoo> you'll also need some tweaks in the fso config
Jun 14 13:46:36 <GNUtoo> yes I think so
Jun 14 13:47:08 <ex-parrot> which part is fso? apologies if this question is answered elsehwere but I find the sheer number of forum threads all of this info is hidden in to be overhwleming
Jun 14 13:50:25 <GNUtoo> SystemR89, I've some infos for you on the fact that they used at least the linux kernel
Jun 14 13:52:18 <GNUtoo> http://www.pastie.org/private/dguicuhb5hivfyyjj3ykyg
Jun 14 13:52:26 <GNUtoo> note that I hand-arranged the xml
Jun 14 13:53:01 <GNUtoo> gpltool is at: http://www.binaryanalysis.org/trac/changeset/339/trunk?old_path=%2F&format=zip
Jun 14 13:53:23 <GNUtoo> ex-parrot, will look
Jun 14 13:53:30 <ex-parrot> GNUtoo: thanks! no rush :)
Jun 14 13:53:48 <SystemR89> yes, I know.. I've access to serial terminal
Jun 14 13:54:15 <SystemR89> I dumped the firmware!
Jun 14 13:54:50 <GNUtoo> ex-parrot, just add saphire for it, do you want me to compile a kernel for you?
Jun 14 13:55:04 <SystemR89> the same binary in openwrt doesn't work, preloading teltonika libraries I get segmentation fault
Jun 14 13:55:07 <ex-parrot> GNUtoo: no that's fine, I need to set up a build environment here anyway if I'm going to do much hacking
Jun 14 13:55:21 <GNUtoo> SystemR89, I just did that to easier the process of reporting a gpl violation
Jun 14 13:55:27 <GNUtoo> since everyone can:
Jun 14 13:55:32 <GNUtoo> *download that firmware
Jun 14 13:55:47 <GNUtoo> *reproduce it with this binary analysis tool
Jun 14 13:56:02 <GNUtoo> but everyone doesn't have serial and access to the device
Jun 14 13:56:51 <SystemR89> ok, sorry. I'll try to use this tool now
Jun 14 13:56:53 <GNUtoo> ex-parrot, yes,at least you will need to add freesmartphone configs for your device,else nothing would work
Jun 14 13:57:14 <ex-parrot> GNUtoo: yeah, I figured as much. thanks for your help :)
Jun 14 13:57:19 <GNUtoo> SystemR89, I guess sflc already knows how to use that tool
Jun 14 13:57:32 <GNUtoo> SystemR89, does the firmware has busybox in it?
Jun 14 13:57:34 <ex-parrot> sigh, my SD card is giving me IO errors already. 
Jun 14 13:58:09 <SystemR89> yes
Jun 14 13:58:31 <GNUtoo> are you in europe?
Jun 14 13:58:39 <GNUtoo> do they use netfilter ?
Jun 14 14:02:28 <SystemR89> Yes, I'm in europe and kernel has netfilter built-in
Jun 14 14:02:59 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 14 14:03:10 <GNUtoo> then I guess the best way is gpl-violations.org
Jun 14 14:04:37 <lindi-_> are they responding nowadays?
Jun 14 14:05:46 <lindi-_> I think after a year of waiting I contacted sflc and they handled the court case in months
Jun 14 14:09:58 <GNUtoo|htcdream> what was beeing violated?
Jun 14 14:10:19 <lindi-_> busybox
Jun 14 14:10:24 <lindi-_> gdb
Jun 14 14:10:30 <GNUtoo|htcdream> ok
Jun 14 14:10:36 <GNUtoo|htcdream> which device
Jun 14 14:17:12 <SystemR89> tahnk you very much!
Jun 14 14:17:25 <SystemR89> I'll write an email to gpl-violation today
Jun 14 14:36:45 <morphis_> mickey|office: ping
Jun 14 14:36:47 <morphis_> GNUtoo: ping
Jun 14 14:37:08 <GNUtoo> morphis, pong
Jun 14 14:38:06 <GNUtoo> morphis, I waited the morning but you didn't show up, but you're there now, I hope you have the time to talk right now
Jun 14 14:39:16 <morphis> GNUtoo: sorry, but I was more busy than I expected
Jun 14 14:39:29 <GNUtoo> no problem
Jun 14 14:40:16 <morphis> GNUtoo: I have twenty minutes from now
Jun 14 14:40:17 <morphis> and my connection is not very stable .... damn this shit eduroam wlan ....
Jun 14 14:40:20 <morphis> ok
Jun 14 14:40:34 <GNUtoo> ok, so let's resume what has already been said:
Jun 14 14:40:42 <morphis> ok
Jun 14 14:40:47 <GNUtoo> *palm pre transport layer is high speed serial
Jun 14 14:40:58 <GNUtoo> on top of that there is an msmcommd protocol
Jun 14 14:41:03 <morphis> msmcomm
Jun 14 14:41:06 <GNUtoo> *msmcomm
Jun 14 14:41:10 <antrik> SystemR89: they don't offer sources for this hso module, or for anything?
Jun 14 14:41:35 <GNUtoo> for geeksphone, I wonder:
Jun 14 14:42:05 <morphis> which you have to split in two parts
Jun 14 14:42:05 <morphis> 1. Link Layer (mostly the same as found in the bluetooth HCI uart protocol)
Jun 14 14:42:05 <morphis> 2. the HCI protocol (not the same like the bluetooth HCI protocol)
Jun 14 14:42:24 <GNUtoo> *what is the transport layer(I guess rpc over shared memory since nothing shows up on the serial port, I added printk on dmesg and nothing shows up with the proprietary ril)
Jun 14 14:42:38 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 14 14:43:02 <GNUtoo> there is a way of initializing it tough
Jun 14 14:43:07 <GNUtoo> to AT commands
Jun 14 14:43:13 <morphis> it's the shared memory + rpc
Jun 14 14:43:17 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 14 14:43:22 <morphis> you can do mostly anything with this as base layer
Jun 14 14:43:40 <morphis> and thats why I think Palm does on the Pixi/Veer/Pre 3 devices
Jun 14 14:43:52 <GNUtoo> <morphis> you can do mostly anything with this as base layer
Jun 14 14:43:58 <GNUtoo> what do you mean?
Jun 14 14:44:29 <morphis> they use shmem+rpc and then speak their HCI protocol as found in the Pre/Pre Plus/Pre 2 devices over this
Jun 14 14:44:43 <morphis> with shmem and rpc
Jun 14 14:44:54 <morphis> you can run different things on top of that
Jun 14 14:45:01 <morphis> depends on which payload you use
Jun 14 14:45:15 <GNUtoo> ah ok
Jun 14 14:45:45 <GNUtoo> so the payload depends on what's implemented in the modem right
Jun 14 14:45:45 <morphis> as the packages you have for gps on the htc dream are not the same as the ones I discovered for the pre
Jun 14 14:45:48 <GNUtoo> some modem have AT
Jun 14 14:45:49 <morphis> yes
Jun 14 14:45:50 <GNUtoo> some don't
Jun 14 14:45:52 <morphis> yes
Jun 14 14:45:54 <GNUtoo> some are incomplete AT
Jun 14 14:46:00 <morphis> and you can even use AT with shmem+rp
Jun 14 14:46:09 <GNUtoo> rp?
Jun 14 14:46:13 <morphis> rpc
Jun 14 14:46:13 <GNUtoo> rpc?
Jun 14 14:46:15 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 14 14:46:15 <morphis> yes
Jun 14 14:46:41 <GNUtoo> but the geeksphone appear to be able to talk msmcomm
Jun 14 14:47:11 <GNUtoo> basically the problem we have now is that we don't know how to initialize it to AT
Jun 14 14:47:27 <GNUtoo> but running the proprietary ril initialize it to AT
Jun 14 14:47:58 <morphis> ok, there are differences
Jun 14 14:48:04 <morphis> also the Palm Pre can speak At
Jun 14 14:48:10 <morphis> but a incomplete variant
Jun 14 14:48:15 <GNUtoo> yes I know
Jun 14 14:48:19 <GNUtoo> CRING doesn't work
Jun 14 14:48:23 <GNUtoo> *+CRING
Jun 14 14:48:23 <morphis> and other things
Jun 14 14:48:26 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 14 14:48:33 <morphis> and the geeksphone can speak full AT with CRING included?
Jun 14 14:48:39 <GNUtoo> no idea
Jun 14 14:48:52 <GNUtoo> I think there are issues with CRING too if I remember well
Jun 14 14:48:54 <morphis> what is it using mainly for communication, the properitary protocol or AT?
Jun 14 14:48:58 <morphis> o
Jun 14 14:48:59 <morphis> k
Jun 14 14:49:08 <GNUtoo> proprietary protocol
Jun 14 14:49:39 <GNUtoo> (in the proprietary ril)
Jun 14 14:50:19 <morphis> ok
Jun 14 14:50:26 <morphis> do we have dumps of that?
Jun 14 14:50:37 <GNUtoo> no
Jun 14 14:50:42 <GNUtoo> how could I dump?
Jun 14 14:51:00 <GNUtoo> since it uses rpc it's a bit hard to dump for me
Jun 14 14:51:06 <GNUtoo> it's not simple printk in the kernel
Jun 14 14:51:21 <morphis> ok
Jun 14 14:51:26 <morphis> do have the kernel sources?
Jun 14 14:51:30 <morphis> and do have the device?
Jun 14 14:51:34 <GNUtoo> yes
Jun 14 14:51:35 <GNUtoo> no
Jun 14 14:51:39 <morphis> ok
Jun 14 14:51:43 <GNUtoo> leviathan, hi
Jun 14 14:51:54 <GNUtoo> leviathan, do you still have the geeksphone one?
Jun 14 14:52:01 <leviathan> yes
Jun 14 14:52:03 <leviathan> and hi
Jun 14 14:52:04 <leviathan> :-)
Jun 14 14:52:24 <GNUtoo> leviathan, maybe I should get your geeksphone one since you don't plan to use it or do any work on it
Jun 14 14:52:27 <morphis> leviathan has the device?
Jun 14 14:52:32 <GNUtoo> yes
Jun 14 14:52:47 <GNUtoo> and VQuickSilver in #replicant
Jun 14 14:52:48 <leviathan> GNUtoo: give me the address
Jun 14 14:52:53 <leviathan> then I'll send it to you
Jun 14 14:52:54 <leviathan> :-D
Jun 14 14:52:58 <morphis> :)
Jun 14 14:53:05 <morphis> GNUtoo: where are the kernel sources?
Jun 14 14:53:08 <GNUtoo> ok I'll give it to you in PM when I finish talking with morphis
Jun 14 14:53:16 <GNUtoo> at github, let me find them
Jun 14 14:53:37 <GNUtoo> https://github.com/rmcc/gp_one_kernel/tree/rmcc-2.6.35
Jun 14 14:53:48 <morphis> GNUtoo: ok, then I will take a look at the sources and try to find a way to dump the payload
Jun 14 14:54:19 <GNUtoo> also for nexus S what should we do if I get one?
Jun 14 14:54:38 <GNUtoo> or if paulk(the other replicant developer) got one
Jun 14 14:54:42 <GNUtoo> *get
Jun 14 14:55:05 <GNUtoo> the galaxy S modem is a msm6xxx if I remember well
Jun 14 14:55:30 <GNUtoo> yes it is according to http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2010/08/21/#20100821-playing_with_galaxy_s
Jun 14 14:55:53 <morphis> ok
Jun 14 14:56:12 <morphis> I talked with harald some weeks ago about the galaxy S
Jun 14 14:56:17 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 14 14:56:26 <morphis> he wanted to send me some dumps but never did that
Jun 14 14:56:36 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 14 14:56:50 <GNUtoo> so the galaxy S modem is an msm too?
Jun 14 14:57:30 <morphis> I think so
Jun 14 14:57:36 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 14 14:57:49 <morphis> GNUtoo: btw I created a private repository very I collect most of my research stuff
Jun 14 14:57:58 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 14 14:57:59 <morphis> I will upload it somewhere and give you access
Jun 14 14:58:14 <GNUtoo> ah? why would I need access?
Jun 14 14:58:30 <GNUtoo> will it stay private?
Jun 14 14:58:35 <GNUtoo> what's inside?
Jun 14 14:59:16 <morphis> yes
Jun 14 14:59:23 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 14 14:59:50 <mickey|office> morphis: pong, i'm here, but i need to finish something within the next couple of hours for a meeting tomorrow...
Jun 14 15:00:09 <morphis> mickey|office: no problem I have to leave anyway
Jun 14 15:00:12 <morphis> GNUtoo: I have to leave
Jun 14 15:00:15 <morphis> lets talk tomorrow
Jun 14 15:00:18 <morphis> bye
Jun 14 15:00:20 <GNUtoo> morphis, ok bye
Jun 14 15:01:01 <SystemR89> antrik, they didn't provide any sources
Jun 14 15:01:47 <GNUtoo> hi leviathan 
Jun 14 15:02:00 <GNUtoo> you don't plan to do any work at all on the geeksphone one?
Jun 14 15:02:03 <GNUtoo> right
Jun 14 15:02:30 <leviathan> GNUtoo: I'm working on the new OpenMoko now
Jun 14 15:02:31 <leviathan> ;-)
Jun 14 15:02:38 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 14 15:02:52 <leviathan> I can send it to you
Jun 14 15:02:53 <GNUtoo> would it cost you a lot to send it to me
Jun 14 15:02:59 <leviathan> no
Jun 14 15:03:04 <leviathan> give me the address
Jun 14 15:03:07 <leviathan> by email
Jun 14 15:03:07 <GNUtoo> because I would have difficulties to pay back since I've no bank account
Jun 14 15:03:08 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 14 15:03:11 <GNUtoo> or trough PM?
Jun 14 15:03:19 <leviathan> doesn't matter
Jun 14 15:03:23 <leviathan> I just need the address
Jun 14 15:03:25 <leviathan> :-D
Jun 14 15:05:23 <GNUtoo> I pm-ed the address to you
Jun 14 17:48:01 <GarthPS> does someone has error with bitbake parsing ? http://pastebin.com/cL5FLA0N
Jun 14 19:11:37 <mickey|daddy> GarthPS: you still have that problem?
Jun 14 19:11:41 <mickey|daddy> let me update and check here
Jun 14 19:11:47 <mickey|daddy> which tree/branch are you useing?
Jun 14 19:12:22 <GarthPS> mickey|daddy: ok thx daddy! congrats abain by the way!! i use the shr's makefile and trying to build shr-u for pre2
Jun 14 19:18:41 <mickey|daddy> can you remember having changed anything or did it just broke by updating to a newer version=
Jun 14 19:18:41 <mickey|daddy> ?
Jun 14 20:02:20 <GarthPS> mickey|daddy: just broke up with a "make update"
Jun 14 22:24:20 <PaulFertser> wiki.openmoko.org certificate expired again :(
Jun 15 02:25:37 <DocScrutinizer> thanks to infobot I wonder if...
Jun 15 02:25:38 <apt> DocScrutinizer: de nada
Jun 15 02:25:43 <DocScrutinizer> yo
Jun 15 02:25:50 <DocScrutinizer> thought as much
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