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Jul 08 09:34:55 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03sylvain.pare 07cornucopia * re1e506b8417d 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/palmpre_quirks/powercontrol.vala: fsodeviced: palmpre_quirks: add a missing '@' to a logger call
Jul 08 10:06:46 <GarthPS> mickeyl: mickey|office: hi . I have a question . If I modify and recompil libfsobasic, which file do I need then to replace in place in my device ?
Jul 08 10:18:46 <mickey|office> GarthPS: hi. /usr/lib/libfsobasic.<SOVERSION>
Jul 08 10:18:57 <mickey|office> should be it
Jul 08 10:57:37 <GNUtoo> hi mrmoku 
Jul 08 10:57:40 <GNUtoo> any news?
Jul 08 11:03:13 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03sylvain.pare 07cornucopia * rd3796f2b2ff5 10/libfsobasics/fsobasics/kernel.vala: 
Jul 08 11:03:13 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: libfsobasics/fsobasics/kernel.vala : added a test on "activate" flag at objet creation (...)
Jul 08 11:03:13 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org:  * added a test on "activate" flag at objet creation to avoid a mismanagement in unload() methode.
Jul 08 11:03:13 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org:  If a kernel module is already loaded when the Kernel26Module objet is created without this addition
Jul 08 11:03:14 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org:  we had an error when calling unload() because of the activate flag not reflecting the reality(check the logic)
Jul 08 11:03:57 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: no :/
Jul 08 11:04:36 <GNUtoo> ok
Jul 08 11:05:36 <mrmoku> but weekend is close
Jul 08 11:05:49 <mrmoku> will have some time then
Jul 08 11:06:17 <GarthPS> mickeyl: could you check my last commit just to be sure :)
Jul 08 11:13:03 <mickey|office> GarthPS: looks good
Jul 08 11:13:11 <mickey|office> i'd wish though we had a better confirmation
Jul 08 11:13:14 <mickey|office> like, directly from kernel
Jul 08 11:13:18 <mickey|office> instead of from modutils
Jul 08 11:14:06 <GarthPS> mickeyl: hmm yeah but my current knowledge about that does not permit me to propose so.. sorry :)
Jul 08 11:14:24 <mickey|office> no problem, that's for another time :)
Jul 08 11:16:40 <GarthPS> mickeyl: yeah, as all other methode use modutils too..
Jul 08 11:48:48 <jluis_> GarthPS, mickeyl  /sys/module/MODULENAME/refcnt don't exist if the module is builtin the kernel
Jul 08 11:52:07 <jluis_> acordind to Documentation/ABI/stable/sysfs-module unchanged since 2006
Jul 08 13:29:32 <GarthPS> GNUtoo: hi, it is with you that I spoke some day about wifi under pre2 righ t?
Jul 08 14:02:21 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r1ccaa8b27d7e 10/msmcommd/src/ (7 files): msmcommd: bump year in copyright note
Jul 08 14:02:21 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r66e5b300eedf 10/msmcommd/src/ (Makefile.am abstractmodemchannel.vala modemchannel.vala): msmcommd: started with creating a abstract modem channel class
Jul 08 14:02:22 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r3127f005c2be 10/msmcommd/src/ (6 files): msmcommd: rename ModemChannel class to HciModemChannel
Jul 08 14:02:24 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r2adf760b3d82 10/msmcommd/src/hcimodemchannel.vala: msmcommd: remove debug output which is not needed anymore
Jul 08 14:05:43 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r1a7109db5f61 10/aurora-systemmanager/systemmanager/controller.vala: aurora-systemmanager: retrieve power status on startup and handle it
Jul 08 14:05:43 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r95bef966e7e1 10/aurora-components/components/ (8 files): aurora-components: remove unused components
Jul 08 14:20:50 <GNUtoo> GarthPS, yes possible
Jul 08 14:22:20 <GarthPS> GNUtoo: do you know if there is already a badndwidith limitation in place? to avoid loosing wifi connection or something like that
Jul 08 14:22:41 <GarthPS> if  it is you who speake aobut that to me
Jul 08 14:22:42 <GNUtoo> I don't think there is
Jul 08 14:22:49 <GNUtoo> altough tc can do that
Jul 08 14:22:53 <GNUtoo> tc is trafic control
Jul 08 14:22:55 <GNUtoo> it's a command
Jul 08 14:23:02 <GNUtoo> yes it was me
Jul 08 14:24:12 <GarthPS> GNUtoo: ok because i did not have any issue during my last test about wifi solidity. but I noticed that it was stuck a 100ko/s where it should be much more
Jul 08 14:29:19 <GNUtoo> nice
Jul 08 14:29:31 <GNUtoo> I think morphis never got it work properly for him
Jul 08 14:32:56 <GarthPS> GNUtoo: yeah nice but if it could work at 600ko/s i would be much better!
Jul 08 14:33:14 <GNUtoo> ok
Jul 08 14:33:21 <GNUtoo> maybe SDIO_IRQ issues
Jul 08 14:41:26 <GarthPS> GNUtoo: do you know what this mean ?
Jul 08 14:41:42 <GarthPS> wget returning "short write"
Jul 08 14:43:51 <GNUtoo> no, it's a  standard error
Jul 08 14:45:11 <GNUtoo> maybe it means that you have issues writing the file, for instance:
Jul 08 14:45:15 <GNUtoo> foo = write();
Jul 08 14:45:21 <GNUtoo> foo < write's len
Jul 08 14:45:26 <GNUtoo> or something like that
Jul 08 14:46:33 <GarthPS> GNUtoo: hm this is weird.. if fac wget worked but It did not print anything to the stdoutput
Jul 08 14:46:39 <GarthPS> ie shell
Jul 08 14:46:50 <GNUtoo> ah ok
Jul 08 15:00:53 <angelox|n900> hi all
Jul 08 15:08:20 <GarthPS> GNUtoo: did you already have this ? do you have an idea of why it is acting like that
Jul 08 15:09:44 <GarthPS> GNUtoo: anyway under webos over wifi I am downloading at 500Ko/s
Jul 08 15:09:59 <GarthPS> hmm 400ko/s
Jul 08 15:15:37 <GNUtoo> GarthPS, yes but webos cheated, they use a proprietary wifi module
Jul 08 15:15:55 <GNUtoo> at first it was clearly violating the GPL
Jul 08 15:16:08 <GNUtoo> since they used EXPORT_GPL symbols
Jul 08 15:16:28 <GNUtoo> then instead of releasing the source they rewrote it not to use theses symbols
Jul 08 15:16:50 <GNUtoo> which may still violate the GPL, but is harder to enforce in court
Jul 08 15:19:37 <GarthPS> GNUtoo: hmm :/ the could do better..
Jul 08 15:20:49 <GNUtoo> we can try to do better tough but....
Jul 08 15:20:54 <GNUtoo> morphis is too busy
Jul 08 15:21:01 <GNUtoo> and I don't have a palm-pre-2
Jul 08 15:21:12 <GNUtoo> neither any kind of palm devices
Jul 08 15:21:39 <GarthPS> GNUtoo: yop.. I will make a ticket about this
Jul 08 15:22:15 <GarthPS> GNUtoo: which is the state of libertas driver ? good shap, half good shat? or the issue is not here ?
Jul 08 15:28:00 <GNUtoo> bbs, I have to reboot
Jul 08 15:28:19 <GNUtoo> the problem is somewhat different
Jul 08 15:28:27 <GNUtoo> while it is indeed:
Jul 08 15:28:33 <GNUtoo> * a libertas_sdio problem
Jul 08 15:28:43 <GNUtoo> * libertas is in good shape
Jul 08 15:28:52 <GNUtoo> the problem is that palm uses a 2.6.24
Jul 08 15:28:55 <GNUtoo> so we do
Jul 08 15:29:22 <GNUtoo> so morphis+me+puffthemagic used compat wireless to make it work
Jul 08 15:29:34 <GNUtoo> so the solutions are:
Jul 08 15:29:58 <GNUtoo> *backport mainline patch to our compat wireless
Jul 08 15:30:00 <GNUtoo> or:
Jul 08 15:30:10 <GNUtoo> *forward port our patches to a new compat wireless
Jul 08 15:30:23 <GNUtoo> I would prefer the second solution
Jul 08 15:30:42 <GNUtoo> Note that I participed in making the wifi work....without a device
Jul 08 15:30:54 <GNUtoo> it was too painfull and at some point I abandonned
Jul 08 15:31:01 <GNUtoo> because of the ssh latency
Jul 08 15:31:36 <GNUtoo> so morphis and puff the magic continued and made it work at the end
Jul 08 15:33:09 <GNUtoo> I need to reboot to extract a sata disk
Jul 08 17:35:17 <morphis> heyho
Jul 08 17:38:02 <angelox|n900> hi morphis
Jul 08 17:42:11 <morphis> angelox|laptop: I saw you commited to aurora
Jul 08 17:42:19 <morphis> but why to the old version?
Jul 08 17:43:24 <angelox|laptop> morphis: old version?
Jul 08 17:43:28 <morphis> yes
Jul 08 17:43:36 <morphis> aurora.git/aurora/ is the old one
Jul 08 17:43:58 <angelox|laptop> which one is new? 
Jul 08 17:43:59 <morphis> aurora.git/aurora-applications,  aurora-daemon, aurora-systemmanager, aurora-theme is the new 
Jul 08 17:44:14 <angelox|laptop> hmm ok,sorry i didn't see that !
Jul 08 17:44:14 <morphis> I splitted the repository into several ones
Jul 08 17:44:19 <morphis> makes development easier
Jul 08 17:44:27 <morphis> and I removed the "app launcher"
Jul 08 17:44:29 <morphis> for now
Jul 08 17:44:36 <morphis> as we need to rework it
Jul 08 17:44:46 <morphis> old version was too "dynamic"
Jul 08 17:45:46 <angelox|laptop> hmm,ok then sorry,i'll commit in news ones now,thanks by advice!
Jul 08 17:48:02 <morphis> no problem
Jul 08 17:50:48 <morphis> angelox|laptop: do you have now a aurora-fb-image for the n900?
Jul 08 17:52:12 <angelox|laptop> morphis: yes,but there's a while since i pulled OE here...
Jul 08 17:52:16 <morphis> ok
Jul 08 17:52:30 <morphis> as we have now "official" images for the palm pre and palm pre 2
Jul 08 17:52:49 <morphis> found here: http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~morphis/aurora-development/
Jul 08 17:52:59 <morphis> and I can build on for the n900 too if you want
Jul 08 17:54:50 <angelox|laptop> would be good for they that want to try it and doesn't have OE/time for that for e.g.
Jul 08 17:55:54 <morphis> is it working on the n900?
Jul 08 17:56:36 <angelox|laptop> finely,just the daemon doesn't open aurora itself,i need open it by terminal
Jul 08 17:56:48 <morphis> ok, which arguments do you pass to it?
Jul 08 17:57:11 <angelox|laptop> only aurora -qws works fine
Jul 08 17:57:23 <angelox|laptop> but i don't know why calling daemon doesn't open :\
Jul 08 17:57:50 <morphis> can you try with aurora -qws -display directfb
Jul 08 17:58:39 <angelox|laptop> sure,can you wait five minutes please?
Jul 08 18:00:25 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r2d63ba57f7be 10/aurora-systemmanager/systemmanager/controller.vala: aurora-systemmanager: make CPU resource request/release action working correctly
Jul 08 18:00:27 <morphis> angelox|laptop: yes
Jul 08 18:02:58 <angelox|laptop> morphis: directfb makes the system receive touchscreen as the accelerometer
Jul 08 18:03:04 <angelox|laptop> that makes everything crazy :)
Jul 08 18:03:38 <morphis> ok, then you should pull the latest changes
Jul 08 18:03:47 <morphis> as I disabled input device support in directfb
Jul 08 18:04:19 <angelox|laptop> ok
Jul 08 18:04:26 <morphis> I started the aurora build for the nokia900
Jul 08 18:04:33 <morphis> will take some time
Jul 08 18:05:45 <morphis> angelox|laptop: you will find the image after the has finished here: http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~morphis/aurora-development/
Jul 08 18:06:41 <angelox|laptop>  morphis: ok thank you
Jul 08 18:06:52 <morphis> no problem
Jul 08 18:10:43 <angelox|laptop> morphis: btw did you see my sketch about InCall page?
Jul 08 18:11:08 <morphis> saw the commit message but didn't look into it
Jul 08 18:11:13 <morphis> whats it about?
Jul 08 18:12:44 <angelox|laptop> morphis: that's the page when user is in a call; he can cancel the call,open dialpad, mute the call and see caller's photo,i need add the buttons at there because my buttons are too ugly :)
Jul 08 18:13:53 <morphis> ok
Jul 08 18:17:36 <morphis> which buttons did you add to the page?
Jul 08 18:19:24 <angelox|laptop> no one atm,i've only added comments about where should them go. I tried to add some buttons but them was too ugly so i removed and tough that is better wait some time and learn before how to make these buttons more beautiful :)
Jul 08 18:22:02 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07aurora * reb9b1abd5452 10/aurora-applications/app-settings/ (7 files): aurora-applications: add Settings app,but don't include in Makefile yet
Jul 08 18:22:03 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07aurora * rc1f3d21dd660 10/aurora-systemmanager/systemmanager/controller.vala: Merge branch 'master' of git.freesmartphone.org:aurora
Jul 08 18:26:09 <angelox|laptop> morphis: should i create a main.qml too for settings app or leave as it is?
Jul 08 18:46:08 <morphis> angelox|laptop: aurora-daemon is currently statically loading the phone app
Jul 08 18:46:13 <morphis> and it's main.qml
Jul 08 18:46:26 <morphis> so with 0.1 of aurora we can't use the settings app
Jul 08 18:46:46 <morphis> but you can continue developing it and change the path to the main.qml in aurora-daemon
Jul 08 18:47:22 <angelox|laptop> ok,i think that this is better. thank you again :)
Jul 08 18:47:25 <morphis> ok
Jul 08 19:20:52 <angelox|laptop> morphis: i think i'll use my branch to develop settings app,this way i'll not be interfering on master,what do you think?
Jul 08 19:21:07 <morphis> yes, why not
Jul 08 19:21:22 <morphis> btw. when developing the settings app can you add your user stories to the wiki?
Jul 08 19:22:08 <angelox|laptop> morphis: yes,and sorry,i even forget that :(
Jul 08 19:25:01 <morphis> angelox|laptop: nokia900 aurora image is ready: http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~morphis/aurora-development/images/nokia900/
Jul 08 19:25:18 <angelox|laptop> so fast :) 
Jul 08 19:25:41 <morphis> yes
Jul 08 19:25:46 <morphis> the amthyst has four cores
Jul 08 19:25:55 <morphis> and most things were already build
Jul 08 19:26:33 <angelox|laptop> ok,i'll try it
Jul 08 19:28:39 <morphis> great
Jul 08 19:28:56 <morphis> angelox|laptop: when you find bugs, then put it into fso's trac instance
Jul 08 19:29:59 <angelox|laptop> ok,thank you
Jul 08 19:41:21 * angelox|laptop tries
Jul 08 19:46:04 * angelox|laptop reports bug
Jul 08 20:02:15 <angelox|laptop> morphis: ok,created a small ticket at there
Jul 08 20:36:47 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07aurora * r65a63042309c 10/aurora-applications/app-phone/ (InCall.qml qmldir): aurora-phone: add In-Call screen to aurora-applications/phone
Jul 08 21:01:25 <angelox|laptop> morphis: i'm seeing some tickets about 'pneumonia' on trac,them are spam or some real advice?
Jul 08 21:18:32 <GNUtoo> pneumonia seem to be an illness
Jul 08 21:25:10 <angelox|laptop> yes,i know,but i don't know if someone posted with the interest of an advice,or just spam.
Jul 08 21:25:35 <GNUtoo> where is it
Jul 08 21:26:24 <angelox|laptop> GNUtoo: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/636
Jul 08 21:27:08 <GNUtoo> it is spam
Jul 08 21:27:16 <GNUtoo> it is not a bug...
Jul 08 21:29:28 <angelox|laptop> there's about four from the same author
Jul 08 21:39:11 <GNUtoo> delete them
Jul 08 21:39:17 <GNUtoo> if you can
Jul 08 21:40:15 <angelox|laptop> i can only set them as fixed/invalid...should i set to invalid?
Jul 08 21:45:01 <GNUtoo> yes
Jul 08 21:45:05 <GNUtoo> invalid
Jul 08 21:54:11 <angelox|laptop> ok
Jul 08 22:01:56 <angelox|laptop> done
Jul 09 01:41:20 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07angelox/testing * r08338b12842b 10aurora/ (3 files in 3 dirs): aurora-general: add,for development,settings app as default to be loaded
Jul 09 01:49:32 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07angelox/testing * r9d5a9ebc4354 10aurora/aurora-applications/configure.ac: aurora-applications: even forget configure.ac
Jul 09 01:53:49 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07angelox/testing * r1b80585b03ef 10aurora/aurora-theme/m4/ (5 files): aurora-theme: don't know why,but need this to generate autogen.sh,when fixed,i'll revert this commit
Jul 09 02:00:00 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07angelox/testing * r235f785b7539 10aurora/ (4 files in 2 dirs): aurora-settings: new way to manage settings's startup
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