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Aug 17 04:14:33 <pespin> hmmm bluez doesn't detect the bluetooth adapter
Aug 17 04:14:49 <pespin> # mdbus2  -s org.bluez / org.bluez.Manager.DefaultAdapter
Aug 17 04:14:49 <pespin> org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter: No such adapter
Aug 17 04:25:48 <pespin> sound is not working neither
Aug 17 04:25:49 <pespin> # aplay -l
Aug 17 04:25:49 <pespin> aplay: device_list:240: no soundcards found...
Aug 17 04:32:51 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r1ed14d9d35d6 10/libfsotransport/fsotransport/raw.vala: libfsotransport: add override for suspend/resume methods in raw transport class
Aug 17 04:42:10 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * r85dbf47867ca 10/palmpre/fso-installer/Makefile: fso-installer: add initial support for hp veer device
Aug 17 05:00:10 <pespin> JaMa|Off, I sent patches to oe-dev ml which have working & uptodate enjoy + lightmediascanner
Aug 17 05:09:59 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * r7595a9ae52ad 10/palmpre/fso-installer/Makefile: fso-installer: use device specific webos doctor
Aug 17 05:34:44 <JaMa|Off> antrik: because most of OE tasks are heavy on IO and hyperthreading is not "hardware" thread
Aug 17 05:36:41 <JaMa|Off> pespin: it's missing [meta-efl] in subject and instead of virtual/gettext is better to inherit gettext
Aug 17 05:41:36 <pespin> JaMa|Off, yeah I sent an answer to 1st mail telling about meta-efl thing, I thought it could be added if sending .patch files with PATCH prefix. I'll look about the second one today in the afternoon
Aug 17 05:46:15 <JaMa|Off> --subject-prefix
Aug 17 05:48:07 <pespin> JaMa|Off, I did, but it took the one from the patch (did with format-patch --subject-prefix PATCH) instead of the meta-efl I set when using send-email ;)
Aug 17 05:48:33 <JaMa|Off> ah ;/
Aug 17 05:50:20 <JaMa|Off> pespin: maybe lightmediascanner should be in different folder, like recipes-multimedia
Aug 17 05:50:52 <pespin> JaMa|Off, yeah I thought about it too. recipes-multimedia in meta-efl? or should we put it in meta-openembedded?
Aug 17 05:51:17 <JaMa|Off> efl for now and with first "outside" user we can move it to meta-oe
Aug 17 05:51:33 <JaMa|Off> iirc enjoy was only recipe in old oe.dev using it, right?
Aug 17 05:51:44 <pespin> JaMa|Off, yep afaik
Aug 17 05:52:05 <pespin> JaMa|Off, btw, I added LIC_FILE_CHKSUM var to some recipes which seems it's needed now to build them
Aug 17 05:52:16 <pespin> shall I send patches with those lines too?
Aug 17 05:52:54 <pespin> like elfe, emtooth2, etc.
Aug 17 05:53:03 <pespin> that's what I got so far http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/d8f29ccd2242bd3b8f490ba7e0c8e710.png :D 
Aug 17 05:53:55 <JaMa|Off> pespin: sure send them
Aug 17 05:54:45 <pespin> ok! I may do it this afternoon :) time to sleep for me now lol
Aug 17 05:55:05 <JaMa|Off> thanks and good night :)
Aug 17 05:55:09 * JaMa|Off going to wrk
Aug 17 05:55:25 <pespin> haha have a good day then ;)
Aug 17 06:07:01 <mrmoku> dos1|N900: pong
Aug 17 06:07:13 <mrmoku> dos1: that sounds like the initscript is missing in core
Aug 17 06:09:28 <mrmoku> gnutoo: The Resolution value "fixed in core" has been added. 
Aug 17 06:09:52 <JaMa|Off> initscripts-shr should be identical, and I'm changing those to initscripts.bbappend
Aug 17 06:09:58 <mrmoku> antrik: yeah, might be I'm just lucky with mine working
Aug 17 06:10:09 <JaMa|Off> moin ;)
Aug 17 06:10:38 <mrmoku> moint JaMa|Off 
Aug 17 06:10:39 <mrmoku> hmm
Aug 17 06:11:17 <mrmoku> JaMa|Off: including the nokia-n900-cmt-gpio.sh one, right?
Aug 17 06:13:27 <mrmoku> s/moint/moin/
Aug 17 06:15:22 <DocScrutinizer> moo
Aug 17 06:29:50 <JaMa|Off> mrmoku: just checked.. in oe they are identical, maybe something like MACHINE_ARCH or test for machine in do_install didn't work
Aug 17 06:39:56 <mrmoku> JaMa|Off: ok... pity there is not testlab for the core image :)
Aug 17 06:40:24 * mrmoku downloads image to check if the script is in there
Aug 17 06:41:52 <mrmoku> JaMa|Off: script is in there... something else then
Aug 17 06:41:58 <mrmoku> maybe missing phonet-utils?=
Aug 17 06:42:42 * JaMa|Off trying if testlab works now :)
Aug 17 06:43:23 <mrmoku> hmm... seems to be in there too
Aug 17 08:51:37 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r646952257e1a 10/ (278 files in 26 dirs): system upgrade
Aug 17 09:36:11 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r4685550059a1 10/meta-zaurus/ (21 files in 3 dirs): klibc: remove 1.5.23 and bbclass, moved to meta-oe
Aug 17 09:38:06 <mickey|office> moinmoin
Aug 17 09:42:08 <JaMa|Off> moin
Aug 17 12:36:30 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r8d57065de4be 10/meta-zaurus/README: meta-zaurus: update README to list meta-oe dependency
Aug 17 12:48:15 <radekp> mickeyl: hi, i have a question about PIM messages, can i ask?
Aug 17 13:04:19 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r4632abeb9de7 10/meta-shr/conf/distro/shr.conf: SHR: set ONLINE_PACKAGE_MANAGEMENT to full like Angstrom does to enable testlab
Aug 17 13:05:09 <JaMa|Off> mrmoku: ^ one for you :)
Aug 17 13:25:31 <mrmoku> JaMa|Off: thanks :-)
Aug 17 13:35:15 <gnutoo> mrmoku,hi
Aug 17 13:35:27 <gnutoo> any ACI progress?
Aug 17 13:36:35 <gnutoo> what about bluetooth multiplexing in ACI?
Aug 17 13:37:03 <gnutoo> like A2DP multiplexing...
Aug 17 13:49:55 <mrmoku> GNUtoo|laptop: no progress today... I was thinking whole yesterday about how to integrate aci into the concept of fsoaudiod... without success
Aug 17 13:50:02 <mrmoku> and morphis is not around
Aug 17 13:50:06 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Aug 17 13:52:52 <mrmoku> about bluetooth... whatever you can pack into alsa amix files should work
Aug 17 13:52:59 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer51 is your friend here :-)
Aug 17 13:53:59 <mrmoku> GNUtoo|laptop: my problem with the fsoaudiod concept is that it consists of a fixed number of streams
Aug 17 13:54:16 <mrmoku> not an arbitrary one as we could do with aci
Aug 17 13:54:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Aug 17 13:54:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> maybe change fsoaudiod then
Aug 17 13:54:51 <DocScrutinizer> BT via codec/mixer only for SCO, A2DP is via USB directly from APE/CPU. So basically no audio topic
Aug 17 13:54:52 <mrmoku> and that needs talking to morphis
Aug 17 13:55:58 <DocScrutinizer> on FreeRunner ;-D
Aug 17 13:56:15 <mrmoku> brb
Aug 17 13:56:20 <DocScrutinizer> NFC ATM what's up about that topic on e.g N900
Aug 17 13:57:51 <DocScrutinizer> on N900 audio for BTFM module seems linked to CPU via McBSP3
Aug 17 14:01:16 <mrmoku> GNUtoo|laptop: I'm running out of time though... leaving for france on friday morning
Aug 17 14:01:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> bbl
Aug 17 14:03:29 <DocScrutinizer> N900 BT module has analog audio out for FMRX, but all BT audio (SCO, A2DP) is via McBSP3 aka BT_PCM bidir I2S-bus
Aug 17 14:03:40 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: how long would it take you to provide some nicely working amix for gta02?
Aug 17 14:04:09 <DocScrutinizer> *scratch*
Aug 17 14:04:23 <DocScrutinizer> yoiu mean some aci def files?`
Aug 17 14:04:30 <mrmoku> yup
Aug 17 14:04:47 <DocScrutinizer> like 6h per path, possibly faster
Aug 17 14:05:03 <mrmoku> ouch :P
Aug 17 14:05:08 <DocScrutinizer> it's an incredibly tedious job
Aug 17 14:05:16 <mrmoku> ok
Aug 17 14:06:03 <mrmoku> my hope is french camping sites will provide me with free wifi
Aug 17 14:06:25 <mrmoku> at least my camping guide is optimistic there
Aug 17 14:06:33 <DocScrutinizer> but I told you I'll do it as soon as you got some definitions (syntax etc) - or would you prefer I invent some random syntax and you do the fsoaudiod parser accordingly?
Aug 17 14:06:58 <mrmoku> the parser is already done
Aug 17 14:07:08 <DocScrutinizer> thought as much
Aug 17 14:07:25 <mrmoku> and syntax is amix + some special comments
Aug 17 14:07:38 <DocScrutinizer> very good, excellent :-D
Aug 17 14:07:49 <mrmoku> like @prio=47
Aug 17 14:07:55 <DocScrutinizer> top
Aug 17 14:08:56 <mrmoku> prio per control and one in the global comment for the complete route
Aug 17 14:09:15 <DocScrutinizer> we'll be fine with that
Aug 17 14:09:35 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: btw, we have to treat only one hw card?
Aug 17 14:09:35 <DocScrutinizer> the prio arbiter already working?
Aug 17 14:09:53 <DocScrutinizer> mrmoku: usually we got multiple cards
Aug 17 14:10:12 <mrmoku> no for that I need to understand how to integrate it in fsoaudiod
Aug 17 14:11:39 * mrmoku will look again now
Aug 17 14:12:14 <DocScrutinizer> I feel like I should provide a comprehensive first example, ideally for default notification path (PCM->speaker)
Aug 17 14:12:29 <mrmoku> that would be great for me to test something yeah
Aug 17 14:14:38 <DocScrutinizer> the examples in my (still offline) people/ACI should be complete for GSM mic and GSM earpiece iirc
Aug 17 14:15:20 <DocScrutinizer> will have a second look at them, and do a third one for PCM->speaker
Aug 17 14:15:59 <DocScrutinizer> also nice to check prio, as it's pretty clear cut GSM has prio over notifications
Aug 17 14:17:05 <mrmoku> ok
Aug 17 14:17:12 <mrmoku> I have the two around
Aug 17 14:17:19 <DocScrutinizer> mrmoku: (french wifi) heard in France WLAN is forbidden outdoors, or sth bizarre like that
Aug 17 14:17:57 <mrmoku> maybe a camping site does not count as outdoors :-)
Aug 17 14:18:17 <DocScrutinizer> mrmoku: do you know what's up with chandra box now?
Aug 17 14:18:24 <misc> there was some problem due to the frequency assigned to army
Aug 17 14:18:31 <misc> but that has been changed some years ago
Aug 17 14:18:45 <DocScrutinizer> aah, thanks for clarification, misc 
Aug 17 14:19:13 <misc> ( but let me check )
Aug 17 14:19:25 <DocScrutinizer> mrmoku: it's unbearable the OM infra is down since 10 days now
Aug 17 14:19:26 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: (chandra) no idea :/
Aug 17 14:19:41 <DocScrutinizer> FFS!
Aug 17 14:19:54 * DocScrutinizer starts shouting swearwords
Aug 17 14:20:58 <DocScrutinizer> probably I got unregistered on several ML meanwhile... "mail addr bouncing"
Aug 17 14:25:02 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: there is a mail on the gta04 list... where boudewijn writes that last time he contacted Harald on a former outage he told him to contact roh :/
Aug 17 14:26:15 <DocScrutinizer> yeah, I "contacted" roh on CCCamp - answer "meh, in der kiste ist wohl was mit der hw in Ar... Da musste man halt mal was neues hinstellen..."
Aug 17 14:26:23 <DocScrutinizer> OWTTE
Aug 17 14:26:35 <mrmoku> heh :/
Aug 17 14:26:46 <mrmoku> I thought it is a hetzner box...
Aug 17 14:26:55 * DocScrutinizer too
Aug 17 14:27:52 <mrmoku>  9  hos-tr1.ex3k10.rz13.hetzner.de (213.239.224.11)  41.163 ms hos-tr4.ex3k10.rz13.hetzner.de (213.239.224.107)  40.979 ms  40.833 ms
Aug 17 14:27:55 <mrmoku> 10  bhavani.openmoko.org (88.198.58.17)  39.530 ms  40.447 ms  39.907 ms
Aug 17 14:27:58 <mrmoku> 11  devi.openmoko.org (88.198.93.221)  39.924 ms  40.366 ms  39.449 ms
Aug 17 14:28:23 <mrmoku> and then faulty hw should clearly not be a problem
Aug 17 14:28:56 <DocScrutinizer> don't ask me, I think it's a motivation problem
Aug 17 14:29:17 <DocScrutinizer> nobody is paying our sysops afaik
Aug 17 14:30:11 <DocScrutinizer> and for the last 10 days camp was clearly more attractive
Aug 17 14:30:37 <DocScrutinizer> and maybe now they need another 10 days of reconvalescence
Aug 17 14:30:40 <DocScrutinizer> ;-P
Aug 17 14:31:07 <mrmoku> hehe probably :P
Aug 17 14:32:52 <DocScrutinizer> maybe the iron is colocated
Aug 17 14:33:07 <DocScrutinizer> dunno if hetzer even offers this
Aug 17 14:34:14 <DocScrutinizer> anyway ML people mail all down
Aug 17 14:38:36 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: yup, they offer colo too
Aug 17 17:45:22 <pespin> JaMa, hi, do I need to add "recipes-multimedia" to some config file in order to get bitbake parse its recipes?
Aug 17 17:49:04 <mrmoku> JaMa: do patches from the ML not go to patchwork anymore? or are you too fast for me?
Aug 17 17:50:42 <pespin> ah, it works now, I needed to put the recipe in recipes-multimedia/lightmediascanner/ ;)
Aug 17 18:01:11 <Slyon> dos1, hey! just as a quick reminder: http://slyon.de/shr/trac.tar.gz
Aug 17 18:53:41 <JaMa> mrmoku: from shr-devel? it worked for last few patches
Aug 17 19:25:24 <mrmoku> JaMa: did you apply the one from Lukas?
Aug 17 19:30:11 <mrmoku> JaMa: nvm... stupid me could have just removed the filters to see the handled ones :P
Aug 17 19:46:47 <gnutoo> hi JaMa 
Aug 17 19:47:16 <gnutoo> why are there contrib branches rather than a supplementary layer?
Aug 17 19:47:45 <gnutoo> if you are about to develop a new layer for a bsp, do you need theses branches?
Aug 17 19:47:58 <gnutoo> or are they only to stay in sync?
Aug 17 19:48:28 <gnutoo> like stay in sync + stuyff that will be merged there(in the master branch)
Aug 17 19:55:44 <gnutoo> btw I had openssl errors with git-native at runtime, I'm fixing it locally
Aug 17 19:56:00 <gnutoo> I guess it's the openssl upgrade
Aug 17 19:57:34 <gnutoo> http://www.pastie.org/private/2y9a8xuc70xbeeeeizzjww
Aug 17 19:57:56 <gnutoo> to fix I did that:
Aug 17 19:58:18 <gnutoo> bitbake -b virtual:native:../repos/openembedded-core/meta/recipes-devtools/git/git_1.7.5.1.bb -c cleansstate
Aug 17 23:01:09 <LionKMP> Hi, what do you recommend to search for applications? In the Wiki I can see a lot of outdated stuff.
Aug 18 02:29:07 <pespin> JaMa, it seems enjoy icon is not getting inside the enjoy package: WARNING: For recipe enjoy, the following files were installed but not shipped in any package:
Aug 18 02:29:07 <pespin> WARNING:   /usr/share/icons/enjoy.png
Aug 18 02:29:48 <pespin> do I need to add FILES_${PN} + = "${datadir}/icons"   to recipe?
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