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Aug 31 06:33:12 <morphis> heyho
Aug 31 09:17:56 <morphis> gnutoo: ping
Aug 31 11:59:08 <rah> aurora is just for Palm Pre devices?
Aug 31 12:24:31 <PaulFertser> rah: no, it should work on others as well. It's just that the images are compiled for Pre. afaict
Aug 31 12:24:47 <rah> I see
Aug 31 12:24:57 <rah> I thought that sounded a bit strange
Aug 31 12:34:56 <dcordes> hi
Aug 31 18:48:14 <pespin> hey guys, you maybe be interested about this http://appadvice.com/appnn/2011/08/samsung-webos-could-take-on-ios-and-android ( TAsn posted it in #edevelop a while ago :)
Aug 31 18:48:34 <TAsn> "while" < 5 mins ago. :)
Aug 31 20:38:20 <LionKMP> Hi all, lindi-: can you please sometime check whether "set-nmea.py off" works OK for you with recent something? For me it starts outputting all kind of callback messages. 
Aug 31 20:38:54 <LionKMP> What I do is: enable GPS in SHR Settings. Then write this command. Sometimes it outputs 10-20 lines only, but in most cases I need to stop with Ctrl-C.
Aug 31 20:39:47 <LionKMP> can I see in the ubx-parse1 output whether nmea was successfully disabled? I got lot of NAV-POSLLH and such things.
Aug 31 20:39:48 <lindi-> LionKMP: I'm fairly sure it does work
Aug 31 20:40:21 <lindi-> LionKMP: if you read the file with "less" you can probably see if it has nmea or not?
Aug 31 20:40:29 <LionKMP> I use SHR-Testing on FreeRunner.
Aug 31 20:40:30 <lindi-> LionKMP: but I do agree that the tools are bit rudimentary
Aug 31 20:40:46 <LionKMP> these tools are very cool. :)
Aug 31 20:41:04 <LionKMP> grep -i NMEA duna2.txt    -> no output.
Aug 31 20:41:42 <LionKMP> (duna2.txt is the output of ubx.parse1.py)
Aug 31 20:42:29 <LionKMP> but I guess in this file NMEA does not look like an NMEA file, because it's entirely different format.
Aug 31 20:42:45 <LionKMP> well, difficult to explain my question. :)
Aug 31 20:43:31 <LionKMP> nmea-off.py basically has the same output as this file, all kind of NAV and other messags, until I press CTRL-C.
Aug 31 20:43:39 <LionKMP> While the other tools don't do that. They exit clearly.
Aug 31 20:44:00 <LionKMP> (I mean "set-nmea.py off")
Aug 31 20:49:20 <lindi-> LionKMP: grep NMEA does not make much sense :)
Aug 31 20:49:40 <lindi-> LionKMP: the fundamental problem is that the tools open and close the seral port
Aug 31 20:49:53 <lindi-> LionKMP: that causes all sorts of funky issues with buffering
Aug 31 20:51:12 <lindi-> LionKMP: can you provide an strace?
Aug 31 20:54:30 <LionKMP> I don't know how to :(
Aug 31 21:10:48 <LionKMP> I think no CFG-PTR reply ever arrives to your CFG-PTR command. I tried it now and it sends all kind of messages and keeps on going.
Aug 31 21:11:03 <LionKMP> CFG-PRT sorry
Aug 31 21:11:40 <lindi-> LionKMP: yeah
Aug 31 21:11:45 <LionKMP> hm, then I tried again and it worked. So maybe this needs to be started more times?
Aug 31 21:12:01 <lindi-> LionKMP: maybe the first message gets corrupted for some reason?
Aug 31 21:12:06 <LionKMP> the request message is too short, so it does not notice :)
Aug 31 21:12:15 <LionKMP> other ./set-*.py sends longer initial message
Aug 31 21:13:04 <LionKMP> hm, no that's a different message for example in set-periodic-raw-logging
Aug 31 21:15:12 <LionKMP> well, at least now I know if I need CTRL-C, it didn't work! I thought it worked and didn't quit.
Aug 31 21:15:52 <LionKMP> so I'll just start it more times if needed.
Aug 31 21:39:05 <pespin_> playya__, I just sent you a patch for eflvala which adds Naviframe and NaviframeItem widget classes
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