**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 08 02:59:57 2011 Sep 08 06:04:20 ok, got a treo 700w to attempt to hack, and a neo1973 to reprogram. Sep 08 09:33:37 hi, any idea why fsodeviced kills usb networking on startup (on debian unstable) Sep 08 09:34:39 i suspect that it has to do something with usb host mode and i can even workaround it with ignore_usbhost=true, but still it's annoying Sep 08 09:55:30 is it corrct that if i install QI, it will always try to boot from SD, but i can hold down aux to get a boot menu and boot from NAND? Sep 08 09:56:02 (I am wanting to install debian. and currently have SHR on NAND) Sep 08 10:09:21 ssam: if you press the aux menu before power you will get the NOR u-boot menu where booting from NAND is the default option Sep 08 10:09:48 ok, thanks Sep 08 10:13:55 if aux is pressed just after power qui will skip the first SD partition with /boot/uImage-GTA02.bin and try the next part with the fille or boot from NAND Sep 08 10:15:10 the last partition scanned by qi is mmcblk0p3 Sep 08 10:22:24 radekp: the reason could be that USB host is a resource and fsodeviced enables all resources if fsousaged can't be reached (for whatever reason), so USB host mode is then being enabled, which effectively kills USB client unfortunately Sep 08 10:24:20 morning, btw. Sep 08 10:32:10 i am using "TASKS="ALL" QI=true SINGLE_PART=true SD_SWAP_SIZE=256 ./install.sh all", but it stops after "Fetching time from ntp.fu-berlin.de with rdate" Sep 08 10:36:09 on the openmoko "rdate -s ntp.fu-berlin.de" fails with "rdate: timeout connecting to time server". ping google.com works, so the netowrk is up Sep 08 10:41:05 try editing the server on install.sh to pool.ntp.org or check your firewall configuration Sep 08 10:45:44 i guess it must be todo with the iptable command for allowing the openmoko to access the network through my desktop. i think i'll just skip the time but Sep 08 10:45:47 bit Sep 08 10:52:41 acording to the documentation of install.sh you could just call it for the next steps replacing "all" with "partition format mount debian apt fso configuration tasks kernel cleanup unmount" Sep 08 10:59:59 ssam: is that ntp server down? Sep 08 11:00:22 no, work with ntpdate on my desktop Sep 08 11:01:12 ssam: you should not use NOR u-boot for booting Sep 08 11:01:50 ssam: since you can't fix bugs in that without debug board Sep 08 11:02:00 ssam: you can boot NAND with qi too if you hit AUX at the right time Sep 08 11:02:11 ok Sep 08 11:02:13 ssam: I don't think this is particularly usable but I have some ideas on how to improve that Sep 08 11:02:41 ssam: I uploaded qi to debian recently in case you wonder why :) Sep 08 11:02:59 because you need SHR (or something) on NAND to install debian. and the debian page recommend QI Sep 08 11:03:11 ssam: http://packages.qa.debian.org/q/qi.html Sep 08 11:03:24 but once you put QI on then it will try to boot from SD Sep 08 11:03:43 qi also lacks a good manual Sep 08 11:04:02 ssam: also I suggest #openmoko-debian Sep 08 11:04:23 ok, shall we carry on there Sep 08 11:05:26 ssam: I'm at work right now so I can't promise anything :) Sep 08 11:05:40 ok Sep 08 11:25:34 mickey|office: hi, thanks that sounds good, i have installed and run fsousaged and now it seems ok Sep 08 12:08:47 where can I get udev-173.tar.gz and the md5 now that git.kernel.org is down Sep 08 12:19:57 jluis_: try this one http://launchpad.net/udev/main/173/+download/udev-173.tar.bz2 Sep 08 12:20:06 ah you want gz Sep 08 12:20:26 http://www.us.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-173.tar.gz Sep 08 12:20:50 no problem i will generate it :) thanks JaMa Sep 08 12:56:05 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rbd71871a880b 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-graphics/drm/ (libdrm/glamo.patch libdrm_2.4.26.bbappend): meta-openmoko: libdrm: add glamo support Sep 08 12:56:16 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r7cc0e2df06ce 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-graphics/mesa/ (mesa-dri/glamo.patch mesa-dri_7.11.bbappend): meta-openmoko: mesa-dri: add glamo support Sep 08 12:56:16 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rd5d53e418307 10/meta-shr/conf/distro/shr.conf: shr: set PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libx11-native Sep 08 13:13:07 [Notice] -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, as previously promised today will be the day where the network goes up in flames... I mean, where we carry out some upgrades to the ircd. I'm about to kill off a number of servers and the affected user count is ~8K! Hopefully this won't take long but I suggest you brace for impact.. Sep 08 13:36:31 I need some help building shr-testing Sep 08 13:36:42 what exactly? Sep 08 13:36:57 I'm following http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building SHR Sep 08 13:37:22 when I get to 'bitbake -k shr-image', I'm getting "ERROR: Unable to parse /OE/shr-testing/openembedded/recipes/ed/ed_0.5.bb" Sep 08 13:37:38 you need older bitbake for shr-testing Sep 08 13:37:43 then it gives some python error stuff Sep 08 13:38:04 so http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building SHR doesn't work for shr-testing? Sep 08 13:38:43 jfthomps: no, because bitbake checkout tracks bitbake/master and that is more picky about multiline comments etc Sep 08 13:38:57 jfthomps: there should be shr-testing/bitbake -> ../bitbake symlink Sep 08 13:39:58 jfthomps: do rm -f shr-testing/bitbake; cp -ra bitbake shr-testing/; cd shr-testing/bitbake; git checkout 1.13.1 Sep 08 13:40:28 not sure about 1.13.1 (just test few older versions) Sep 08 13:40:33 is that /OE/shr-testing/bitbake? if so, I don't have 'bitbake' under /OE/shr-testing Sep 08 13:41:47 I have /OE/openembedded/recipes/bitbake and /OE/shr-testing/openembedded/recipes/bitbake Sep 08 13:42:23 and /OE/bitbake? Sep 08 13:42:44 no Sep 08 13:42:52 then call "make setup-bitbake" in /OE dir Sep 08 13:43:24 then mv /OE/bitbake /OE/shr-testing/bitbake; cd shr-testing/bitbake; git checkout 1.13.1 Sep 08 13:44:05 ok, that works so far Sep 08 13:44:47 do I try bitbake -k shr-image again now? Sep 08 13:44:59 check $PATH Sep 08 13:45:04 after . ./setup-env Sep 08 13:45:12 you should see /OE/shr-testing/bitbake/bin there Sep 08 13:45:37 yep, it's there Sep 08 13:45:49 ok then you can try image Sep 08 13:46:29 :( same error message Sep 08 13:46:47 I did get this first though: Sep 08 13:46:51 then checkou 1.12 Sep 08 13:46:52 NOTE: Cache version mismatch, rebuilding... Sep 08 13:46:55 ok Sep 08 13:49:47 ok, looks like it is working now Sep 08 13:49:52 thanks for your help! Sep 08 13:50:10 could you please update wiki with this information? Sep 08 13:50:18 ok Sep 08 13:50:18 the samy does apply for shr-unstable Sep 08 13:50:27 only shr-core needs bitbake from bitbake/master or shr-chroot Sep 08 13:50:35 shr-unstable needs bitbake 1.12 as well? Sep 08 13:51:13 yes Sep 08 13:51:18 ok, got it Sep 08 15:28:00 wiki page updated and instructions tested Sep 08 15:53:27 hi! Sep 08 17:16:07 heyho Sep 08 17:21:32 morphis, hi :) Sep 08 17:22:10 morphis, could you tell me which is the support status of the pre 3? Sep 08 17:35:30 gnutoo: I received interesting bit of information on bcm4329 from phh Sep 08 17:35:57 ah you found something ? Sep 08 17:36:50 phh: m-m Sep 08 17:36:55 unfortunately not Sep 08 17:37:01 ah Sep 08 17:37:09 I am compiling the non-working driver with the working driver's makefile now Sep 08 17:37:29 phh: I thought I might ping gnutoo cuase he might have an idea Sep 08 17:37:34 phh: regarding your hint Sep 08 17:37:55 gnutoo: so.. :) he said some define is influencing how wext works Sep 08 17:38:06 could be. Sep 08 17:38:09 i might be messing with another driver Sep 08 17:38:21 (even though i think pretty much all the drivers i've seen are like that) Sep 08 17:39:06 phh: because all of them are for andorid use ? Sep 08 17:39:16 no Sep 08 17:39:25 hm Sep 08 17:39:38 one is like nvidia stuff, os abstraction layer everywhere Sep 08 17:39:40 ralink thingy Sep 08 17:39:52 I see Sep 08 17:39:58 in early stages of this driver, only iwpriv stuff were working i think Sep 08 17:40:34 afaik android doesn't need the wext Sep 08 17:40:46 it's not really android relaetd Sep 08 17:40:53 and no matter if you could scan in non-android, in android it always worked Sep 08 17:41:02 it's that android is more closed system, so wifi constructors can change wpa_supplicant the wait they want Sep 08 17:41:12 and indeed most constructors uses proprietary extensions Sep 08 17:41:35 that's why non-android is always broken Sep 08 17:41:43 dcordes: and hum btw, using android's wpa_supplicant should work on non-android Sep 08 17:41:50 if you feel like rebuilding it and fixing it Sep 08 17:42:11 or if you feel like having an android /system Sep 08 17:42:16 (but that's only good for testing...=) Sep 08 17:42:49 phh: you mean if I take the driver version that works in android but not in non-android I can fix non-android using android's wpa_supplicant binary ? Sep 08 17:43:57 phh: gotta get going. thanks for the input! I hope it will ring a bell for gnutoo Sep 08 17:44:23 i think so Sep 08 17:44:48 but i know there have been some extensions to wpa_supplicant "protocol" as well in android, AFAIK they are minor, but well .. Sep 08 17:50:17 pespin: it's not supported Sep 08 17:50:24 pespin: and I will not do the support for it Sep 08 17:50:42 ok :) Sep 08 18:01:15 * angelox|nokia forgots his laptop turned on :( Sep 08 18:03:41 Hi morphis Sep 08 18:07:22 angelox|nokia: hey Sep 08 18:07:29 angelox|nokia: I am back in some minutes Sep 08 18:07:37 ok Sep 08 18:13:58 gnutoo: ping Sep 08 18:19:03 morphis: i've few ideas to a *far* release of aurora,mainly in the default layout and in the default theme Sep 08 18:19:41 morphis: i did create SVG images based in my ideas,but i haven't them here,at home i'll try to send them to you Sep 08 18:20:20 i hope,when you get here again,you see these messages :) Sep 08 18:37:25 hi Sep 08 18:37:27 hi morphis Sep 08 18:37:31 how's the nexus S? Sep 08 18:37:38 GNUtoo|laptop: very good Sep 08 18:37:52 did you do a review of it? Sep 08 18:38:33 like on a wiki(since there is no review of it on your blog) Sep 08 18:38:37 morphis, I must PM you Sep 08 18:53:38 hello, i have a problem, if i bitbake gcc it hangs (log) ERROR: ld.so: object 'libpseudo.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored Sep 08 18:58:04 nschle85, hi Sep 08 18:58:26 GNUtoo|laptop: hi :-) Sep 08 18:58:29 libpseudo has something to do with pseudo I guess Sep 08 18:58:29 are you in the right dir when you bitbake that? Sep 08 18:59:38 i hope so i always bitbake in the same directory Sep 08 19:00:16 who misses libpseudo is it the bitbake binary ? Sep 08 19:00:30 ldd ??? Sep 08 19:02:04 gnutoo: i use JaMa|Off: Makefile to setup the environment Sep 08 19:03:01 nschle85, it's pseudo Sep 08 19:03:04 a fakeroot replacement Sep 08 19:03:08 from the yocto project Sep 08 19:04:35 GNUtoo|laptop: and how is it called ? 'which pseudo' gives no result Sep 08 19:04:49 it's build with openembedded Sep 08 19:04:58 *oe-core Sep 08 19:05:16 i already bitbaked pseudo-native Sep 08 19:06:03 gnutoo: i heard that there are problems if pseudo is updated Sep 08 19:22:30 maybe look from where comes that lib Sep 08 19:22:30 form what native package Sep 08 19:23:13 but note that pseudo is built before openembedded starting to build something Sep 08 19:23:13 it's done in 2 passes: Sep 08 19:23:13 first pseudo is built Sep 08 19:23:13 then the real build starts Sep 08 19:23:32 GNUtoo|laptop: yes Sep 08 19:24:42 if i clean pseudo-native and delete pseudodone it is rebuild Sep 08 19:25:59 libpseudo.so is located in shr-core/tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/lib/pseudo/lib64 Sep 08 19:27:48 ok Sep 08 19:28:58 should i copy it to x86_64-linux/usr/lib ? Sep 08 19:30:01 ok Sep 08 19:30:01 maybe report on oe ml? Sep 08 19:32:01 GNUtoo|laptop: i dont know, is it a real problem ? Sep 08 19:32:31 GNUtoo|laptop: how can i check the ld-library path used in bitkake env ? Sep 08 19:33:41 GNUtoo|laptop: have you got a new phone ? Sep 08 19:33:41 bitbake -e Sep 08 19:33:51 not yet Sep 08 19:33:55 why? Sep 08 19:34:19 GNUtoo|laptop: i thought you destroyed one and your laptop too Sep 08 19:34:36 I destroyed one hdd and 1 phone Sep 08 19:35:13 it was an htcdream Sep 08 19:35:13 and I had 2 of them Sep 08 19:35:13 and only the screen of the phone is destroyed Sep 08 19:35:36 GNUtoo|laptop: and have you got your u-boot problem soved ? Sep 08 19:35:40 solved Sep 08 19:35:49 no idea Sep 08 19:35:55 building takes longer now that I work Sep 08 19:36:26 so I just built an om-gta02 image now Sep 08 19:36:33 I'm flashing it Sep 08 19:36:52 GNUtoo|laptop: do you flash directly to phone ? Sep 08 19:37:17 yes Sep 08 19:37:37 I forgott NAND scrub tough Sep 08 19:37:38 if it doesn't work I'll reflash Sep 08 19:37:49 for me its too long so i alwys copy to sdcard Sep 08 19:37:51 or maybe I should NAND scrub now Sep 08 19:37:51 ? Sep 08 19:37:57 ok Sep 08 19:38:13 yes it's long Sep 08 19:38:14 but else I must dedicate a sdcard to it Sep 08 19:38:15 and it's a mess Sep 08 19:38:23 while they are numbered....some are broken Sep 08 19:38:52 and I lost my number<->what's inside file Sep 08 19:38:52 GNUtoo|laptop: hmm buy a new one, and install qi Sep 08 19:38:57 in the hdd crash Sep 08 19:39:11 new what? Sep 08 19:39:26 GNUtoo|laptop: sd card Sep 08 19:40:33 I've no time to buy new things Sep 08 19:40:33 aha timeout -110 Sep 08 19:40:34 ah no Sep 08 19:40:34 I was flashing on kernel Sep 08 19:40:35 never mind I'll nand scrub Sep 08 19:42:04 GNUtoo|laptop: hope gta04 will be released soon :-) Sep 08 19:42:22 me too Sep 08 19:45:25 and I hope the wifi chip will be ok Sep 08 19:46:17 GNUtoo|laptop: lsof says: /home/nschle85/build-core-shr/shr-core/tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/lib/pseudo/lib64/libpseudo.so Sep 08 19:46:36 so the file may be found but it cannot pre loaded Sep 08 19:46:55 * angelox|laptop is back Sep 08 19:48:05 GNUtoo|laptop: i could cry... i want to compile shr-image and it does not work Sep 08 19:48:08 ok Sep 08 19:49:30 GNUtoo|laptop: the reason to split the repository was to avoid such situations but at the moment its much worse than before Sep 08 19:52:46 or you could report to the mailing list Sep 08 19:52:46 or try to debug harder Sep 08 19:52:46 like ldd Sep 08 19:52:46 etc... Sep 08 19:52:47 you could also ask in #oe Sep 08 19:52:48 or in #yocto Sep 08 19:52:48 or something like taht Sep 08 19:52:49 *that Sep 08 19:52:51 I know, but what ca I do? Sep 08 19:53:44 GNUtoo|laptop: i thought you are a kind of expert :-) Sep 08 19:53:53 GNUtoo|laptop: so i asked you Sep 08 19:53:59 I meant: Sep 08 19:54:06 what can I do against oe-core Sep 08 19:54:13 I mean everyone is migrating to it Sep 08 19:54:17 I cannot revert that Sep 08 19:54:34 and I know some stuff Sep 08 19:54:40 but I cannot know every solution to every problem Sep 08 19:55:52 GNUtoo|laptop: ups... ok the decision process to split the repository was very fast i think... Sep 08 19:55:59 here it refuses to load your library Sep 08 19:55:59 you must try to findout why Sep 08 19:55:59 look with ldd Sep 08 19:55:59 and match it with the libs that you have Sep 08 19:57:31 GNUtoo|laptop: ldd pseudo Sep 08 19:57:31 linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007fffe8664000) Sep 08 19:57:31 libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007fe7c11ab000) Sep 08 19:57:31 libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007fe7c0fa7000) Sep 08 19:57:31 libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007fe7c0c12000) Sep 08 19:57:31 /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fe7c13f4000) Sep 08 19:58:16 so libpseudo is not used by pseudo ? Sep 08 19:58:55 yes Sep 08 19:58:55 but now it's done Sep 08 19:58:55 and everybody migrated or is migrating to it Sep 08 19:58:56 the only way back Sep 08 19:58:56 is to take oe-core Sep 08 19:58:57 and to merge it again in one repo Sep 08 19:58:57 since oe-dev is too old.... Sep 08 20:01:07 GNUtoo|laptop: ok, lets do it :-) Sep 08 20:03:02 GNUtoo|laptop: at the moment, GCC has a bug, a fixing patch is available in openembedded-core but not in shr openembedded-core-contrib Sep 08 20:03:35 GNUtoo|laptop: so we have to wait until JaMa|Off: will merge the fix... Sep 08 20:04:27 GNUtoo|laptop: so why we have this branch ? Sep 08 20:05:52 GNUtoo|laptop: i am also not amused about the stability of shr source code Sep 08 20:06:04 neither do I Sep 08 20:06:22 we must do a test framework Sep 08 20:06:24 dos1, ping Sep 08 20:09:49 GNUtoo|laptop: i have a dedicated server running jenkins Sep 08 20:10:22 GNUtoo|laptop: pong Sep 08 20:10:40 GNUtoo|laptop: but the problem at the moment is, that the most problems are seen only during a complete rebuild Sep 08 20:10:55 dos1, what's the status of the white keyboard? Sep 08 20:11:03 dos1: dobrij den Sep 08 20:11:20 nschle85: dzieƄ dobry ;) Sep 08 20:11:24 GNUtoo|laptop: white keyboard? Sep 08 20:12:11 dos1: white letters on white keys i think (observed on N900 too) Sep 08 20:12:15 ach Sep 08 20:12:30 GNUtoo|laptop: if you want, i can try to fix it Sep 08 20:12:39 but tomorrow Sep 08 20:12:54 well, i'm not using gry theme, so i just forgot about it :) Sep 08 20:13:15 dos1: iam using shr-theme Sep 08 20:13:26 nschle85: shr's default theme is gry* Sep 08 20:13:33 (e-wm and elementary) Sep 08 20:13:45 dos1: ok Sep 08 20:14:18 dos1: i have a stupid question: why it was destroyed ? it worked in old oe dev ! Sep 08 20:14:39 nschle85: old OE-dev has old EFL Sep 08 20:14:48 nschle85: upgrade it in OE-dev and you'll get the same :] Sep 08 20:15:08 nschle85: gry* theme just has to be updated to match newer codebase Sep 08 20:15:20 dos1: ok Sep 08 20:15:43 e theming isn't stable, some group names are sometimes changed Sep 08 20:16:12 dos1: i would like to thank to if you could fix it, it will give back a lot of usability Sep 08 20:16:20 nschle85: ok Sep 08 20:16:24 dos1: can you fix it for old oe dev too ? Sep 08 20:16:31 nschle85: in meantime you can just use default e theme Sep 08 20:17:25 dos1: yes, but my intention is to have it fixed, i do not use shr on n900 in real life (its unusable) Sep 08 20:17:45 nschle85: ok ok, just telling you Sep 08 20:18:10 as fixing it shouldn't be hard, probably it's matter of changing few words in group description Sep 08 20:18:44 dos1: no, i wont attack you, i am here to develop something (if shr will compile) not do do workarounds Sep 08 20:20:35 dos1: can i create a ticke and assign to you ? Sep 08 20:20:44 nschle85: yes, of course Sep 08 20:26:15 dos1: http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1482 Sep 08 20:26:26 dos1: thank you Sep 08 20:32:15 TAsn, hi Sep 08 20:32:30 TAsn, what's the state of http://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1469 Sep 08 20:33:55 dunno Sep 08 20:33:59 sec Sep 08 20:34:30 dos1, you bastard! :P Sep 08 20:34:42 dos1, I'm not that theme maintainer. Sep 08 20:34:49 hmm? Sep 08 20:35:23 GNUtoo|laptop, I'm SUPER short on time in general, and especially this month. I won't be able to attend to it. I'll reassign it to dos. Sep 08 20:35:45 TAsn: hmm? Sep 08 20:35:58 TAsn: i haven't said anything about you :o Sep 08 20:36:11 http://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1469 Sep 08 20:36:12 btw what's the modules to load and install to get sound on om-gta02? Sep 08 20:36:13 look here Sep 08 20:36:47 TAsn: it looks like you was automatically assigned due to component :P Sep 08 20:37:01 ah. :) Sep 08 20:37:13 nschle85: i'll close your ticket as duplicate of #1469 Sep 08 20:38:11 dos1: btw, i'm not that theme maintainer too :D Sep 08 20:38:17 but i'll do it anyway :] Sep 08 20:39:18 dos1: i created a ticket, not a task Sep 08 20:39:37 nschle85: hmm? Sep 08 20:39:58 dos1: you can close it if the original is fixed :-) Sep 08 20:40:12 nschle85: ah, just updated #1469 to have better description and to be a defect Sep 08 20:40:48 dos1: ok, then its a duplicate :-) Sep 08 20:40:57 and who will fix it ? Sep 08 20:41:07 <[Rui]> hoha Sep 08 20:42:21 nschle85, I will tommorow Sep 08 20:43:04 dos1|N900: ok i see the ticket is assigned to you Sep 08 20:43:07 dos1|N900, do you know how to fix sound on om-gta02? Sep 08 20:43:21 hi mrmoku Sep 08 20:43:21 what modules should I load/install? Sep 08 20:43:38 gnutoo, dunno :( Sep 08 20:44:02 who knows? Sep 08 21:17:50 JaMa|Off: before i delete my sanbox and build all again, do you have any idea how to fix my libpseudo problem ? Sep 08 23:25:48 <[Rui]> gnight Sep 09 02:42:17 HOME SWEET HOME :-D Sep 09 02:42:22 and good night :P **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 09 02:59:57 2011