**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 26 02:59:56 2011 Sep 26 06:19:41 hi there , does any one works on porting shr for bravo ? Sep 26 06:21:56 lxsameer: which phone is bravo? Sep 26 06:22:44 mrmoku: htc desire Sep 26 06:24:33 ah ok Sep 26 06:25:32 mrmoku: gnutoo gave me a link for adding support for new device to shr, do you know about it Sep 26 06:34:16 lxsameer: I read it, yes Sep 26 06:34:52 mrmoku: can i have the link please Sep 26 06:35:13 lxsameer: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Device%20Porting%20Guide Sep 26 06:35:30 mrmoku: thank Sep 26 06:35:33 thanks Sep 26 08:34:48 moin Sep 26 09:35:11 moin Sep 26 11:01:26 what os " OpenEmbedded BSP layer for htc devices"? Sep 26 11:01:30 *is Sep 26 11:03:26 don't know if i understand you correctly, but i think it should be http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=meta-smartphone.git;a=summary Sep 26 11:04:51 HeinervdmOff: yeah i see, but i want to is it enough to use this for adding a new device? Sep 26 11:26:31 to build an image you need also the meta-shr, meta-oe and oe-core layers Sep 26 11:26:51 HeinervdmOff: thanks Sep 26 11:27:03 and everything that is missing for your device will be added to meta-smartphone Sep 26 11:27:16 or has to be added Sep 26 11:27:26 HeinervdmOff: thanks, where can i find more about using layers ? Sep 26 11:29:12 if you need more informations then those on the wiki (e.g. http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR) then ask JaMa Sep 26 13:30:46 what is the difference between shr-testing and shr-core and shr-unstable? Sep 26 13:33:07 in the past there were shr-testing and shr-unstable, were testing had better tested but older packages Sep 26 13:33:27 then OE switched to the layers mechanism Sep 26 13:33:54 and shr-core is the shr layer for that Sep 26 13:34:05 and shr-unstable is abonded Sep 26 13:34:22 so shr-core is the new shr-unstable Sep 26 13:34:41 HeinervdmOff: so i have to work with shr-core, am i right? Sep 26 13:34:44 but i don't know in which state it currently is, if it runs or not Sep 26 13:35:00 lxsameer: yes, i would say so Sep 26 13:35:28 oe.dev where shr-unstable is located doesn't get many updates Sep 26 13:35:38 HeinervdmOff: but i have the shr-unstable in my source tree too, will it make problems ? Sep 26 13:35:59 you are using the shr-makefile? Sep 26 13:36:18 HeinervdmOff: yeah Sep 26 13:36:26 then this isn't a problem Sep 26 13:36:33 nice Sep 26 13:36:34 thanks Sep 26 13:36:38 because the trees are completly seperated Sep 26 13:38:41 HeinervdmOff: so i should do these steps for shr-core instead of unstable ? http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR Sep 26 13:46:55 JaMa: hi, do you know anything about meta-htc? i want to add bravo (desire) Sep 26 13:47:29 I am building SHR for my Archos Home tablet for GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES is Persian(Farsi) locales available ? Sep 26 13:48:27 b3hnam: fa_IR UTF-8 Sep 26 13:48:39 lxsameer: tnx ;) Sep 26 13:49:01 b3hnam: :P Sep 26 13:53:38 what is layer.conf ? Sep 26 14:13:59 where should i create my machin file in shr-core ? Sep 26 14:20:01 lxsameer: in meta-htc/conf/machines Sep 26 14:20:37 mrmoku: hmm, i was thinking that meta-htc is an example for new users :D Sep 26 14:20:52 :) Sep 26 14:21:08 meta-htc is the layer for HTC phones :P Sep 26 14:21:20 mrmoku: so http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Device%20Porting%20Guide is an old guide Sep 26 14:22:26 mrmoku: i just worked on shr-unstable before and i'm new to shr-core Sep 26 14:26:20 lxsameer: why do you think it's old? Sep 26 14:27:12 mrmoku: my bad, :D , but i can't understand it well. Sep 26 14:27:24 ok :) Sep 26 14:42:03 for porting SHR where and how should I create machine configuration ? Sep 26 14:43:54 how should I create layer Sep 26 15:22:44 where can i find other recipes in shr-core to overwrite ? Sep 26 15:25:23 what recipes is equal to netbase in shr-core ? Sep 26 16:19:16 lxsameer, hi Sep 26 16:19:25 pespin: hi there Sep 26 16:19:28 lxsameer, you can find some porting guides/examples in the wiki, gnutoo wrote them Sep 26 16:19:39 pespin: yeah i read them Sep 26 16:19:58 pespin: but shr-core is a little complex, and lack documentations Sep 26 16:20:20 lxsameer, yeah, I'm not proficent with new layers system Sep 26 16:20:55 pespin: :D Sep 26 16:21:39 lxsameer, what are you porting? :) Sep 26 16:21:48 pespin: htc bravo Sep 26 16:22:59 lxsameer, well I would advise you to look at existent htc ports in meta-htc as mromku said :) Sep 26 16:23:06 maybe ask gnutoo when he's here Sep 26 16:23:39 pespin: yeah, i'v done that, currently i'm building shr Sep 26 16:23:46 *shr-image Sep 26 16:24:40 lxsameer, good luck then! nice to see new people porting shr :D Sep 26 16:24:57 pespin: thanks man Sep 26 17:54:08 heyho Sep 26 17:57:55 hello Sep 26 18:01:59 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r6bf69a35fd15 10/ (1712 files in 63 dirs): system upgrade Sep 26 18:06:14 hello people Sep 26 18:07:10 anyone there? Sep 26 18:10:39 can you see what i write? Sep 26 18:11:45 yes Sep 26 18:12:26 good, i thought i did something wrong with nickserv identification Sep 26 18:15:58 i've got two quick questions. i'm following a guide for htc dream and booting fastboot kernel. the tut says wait for a very long time and i was wondering how long it will aproximately take Sep 26 18:17:40 fastboot says 'booting...' and the phone is still on the fastboot usb screen, there is no indication that anything is going on. is that how it's supposed to be? Sep 26 18:31:27 JaMa: ping Sep 26 18:40:56 rad87: you should ask gnutoo Sep 26 19:11:48 is it absolute to create shr applications by vala ? Sep 26 19:13:44 GNUtoo: hi there, Sep 26 19:14:05 GNUtoo: i started to build shr, but i have some questions about shr-core Sep 26 19:14:08 hi Sep 26 19:14:08 lxsameer, shr uses dbus.... Sep 26 19:14:24 so you can use whatever language with whatever GUI toolkit Sep 26 19:14:33 GNUtoo: nice thanks Sep 26 19:14:39 GNUtoo: what is a layer ? Sep 26 19:14:50 in shr-core concept Sep 26 19:15:16 hmmm Sep 26 19:15:29 how to explain a layer.... Sep 26 19:15:38 let's say that a layer is something that sits on top of something else Sep 26 19:15:45 for instance you have openembedded-core Sep 26 19:15:49 it has some metadata Sep 26 19:16:03 and on top of it there is meta-openembedded Sep 26 19:16:06 which is a layer Sep 26 19:17:21 GNUtoo: is there any documentation about it ? Sep 26 19:18:07 yes look at poky bsp howto Sep 26 19:18:11 bsp are layers Sep 26 19:18:54 GNUtoo: where are is it then :P Sep 26 19:19:13 machine support recipes Sep 26 19:19:19 like kernel,bootloader etc... Sep 26 19:19:55 GNUtoo: and where can i found the list of recipes ? Sep 26 19:20:27 go in a layer Sep 26 19:20:32 and do: Sep 26 19:20:35 find recipes* Sep 26 19:20:44 GNUtoo: ok thanks :) Sep 26 19:20:50 SHR: 03morphis 07meta-smartphone * r51eeda24e5cc 10/meta-palm/recipes-qt/qt4/ (qt4-embedded/palmpre/qte.sh qt4-embedded_4.7.3.bbappend): meta-palm: qt4-embedded: add specific qte.sh profile script for the palmpre device Sep 26 19:20:50 I think you need more background infos to understand Sep 26 19:20:50 SHR: 03morphis 07meta-smartphone * re685f4fd1b3f 10/meta-aurora/recipes-aurora/images/aurora-image.bb: meta-aurora: aurora-image: do not include full qt suite but just some parts of it Sep 26 19:20:51 SHR: 03morphis 07meta-smartphone * r5d73e2a68e44 10/meta-aurora/recipes-aurora/images/aurora-image.bb: meta-aurora: aurora-image: add relevant aurora and qt parts of the image Sep 26 19:20:51 SHR: 03morphis 07meta-smartphone * r2f45cd1984fa 10/meta-palm/recipes-graphics/tslib/ (tslib/include-cy8mrln-header.patch tslib_git.bbappend): meta-palm: tslib: add machine specific configuration options for palmpre machine Sep 26 19:20:54 SHR: 03morphis 07meta-smartphone * r19efd6ed8353 10/meta-aurora/recipes-aurora/images/aurora-image.bb: meta-aurora: aurora-image: add missing aurora-systemmanager to image Sep 26 19:20:54 SHR: 03morphis 07meta-smartphone * r7015843c6394 10/meta-aurora/recipes-aurora/aurora/ (4 files in 2 dirs): meta-aurora: import more aurora specific recipes from oe-dev Sep 26 19:21:04 SHR: 03morphis 07meta-smartphone * r4ffc590f1ac2 10/meta-aurora/recipes-aurora/aurora/aurora-base.inc: meta-aurora: aurora: bump SRCREV for latest changes Sep 26 19:21:09 GNUtoo: yeah i know, but shr lack of documents Sep 26 19:21:12 lxsameer, are you familiar with gentoo Sep 26 19:21:13 ? Sep 26 19:21:23 GNUtoo: i little but i'm a debian user Sep 26 19:21:40 also i need say thanks to GNUtoo,i didn't understand nothing until GNUtoo say that message Sep 26 19:21:45 ok think like the old openembedded as gentoo Sep 26 19:21:47 thanks GNUtoo :) Sep 26 19:22:14 so bitbake is like emerge Sep 26 19:22:28 and a recipe is like an ebuild Sep 26 19:22:45 GNUtoo: and what about new openembedded Sep 26 19:22:59 the only difference is that instead of installing the package directly it creates a .ipk or an image to flash or to install Sep 26 19:23:06 it's mostly the same Sep 26 19:23:11 only that it's splitted Sep 26 19:23:15 across layers Sep 26 19:23:19 GNUtoo: heyho Sep 26 19:23:30 GNUtoo: we're mostly back to business with aurora Sep 26 19:23:33 GNUtoo: aha , i get it now Sep 26 19:23:33 for instance portage has all in /usr/share/portage/ if I remember well Sep 26 19:23:37 morphis, nice!!!! Sep 26 19:23:39 I push the last bits some minutes ago Sep 26 19:23:49 you just need to use the shr contrib branch for oe-core Sep 26 19:24:03 imagine a gentoo with the ebuilds in different directories Sep 26 19:24:05 as master is missing two patches Sep 26 19:24:05 ok Sep 26 19:24:21 I already uses shr-contrib Sep 26 19:24:24 thanks a lot morphis Sep 26 19:24:34 no problem Sep 26 19:24:44 now the development of aurora itself can continue Sep 26 19:24:50 imagine that you have all "free" ebuilds in a dir and all "non-free" ebuilds in another dir Sep 26 19:25:01 and that the 2 dirs could live in different repositories Sep 26 19:25:20 GNUtoo: nice Sep 26 19:25:32 well openembedded-core has a different differentiation than free/non-free for instance support for smartphones are in meta-smartphones Sep 26 19:25:40 and support for the core is in openembedded-core Sep 26 19:25:46 morphis, nice Sep 26 19:25:48 I'll try it Sep 26 19:25:56 morphis, will it work out of the box on om-gta02? Sep 26 19:26:08 GNUtoo: currently display size is still hard coded Sep 26 19:26:14 but I will change tomorrow Sep 26 19:26:35 ok Sep 26 19:26:56 maybe I should try on htcdream then? Sep 26 19:27:43 GNUtoo: thanks man Sep 26 19:29:08 np Sep 26 19:29:24 maybe I can hardcode it to my phone res Sep 26 19:30:06 hi morphis Sep 26 19:30:15 angelox|laptop: heyho Sep 26 19:30:20 angelox|laptop: good you're here Sep 26 19:30:46 GNUtoo: you just have to edit the source of the aurora-daemon to change it Sep 26 19:31:05 morphis: yes,but not for too much time (i'm kind of ill and i can't stand too much time in front of pc) :( Sep 26 19:32:05 ok Sep 26 19:33:12 morphis: now i could set up the deviceService and the cellularService as elements in QML...the problem was the QObject wasn't public :) Sep 26 19:33:26 now we just need implement the dbus stuff Sep 26 19:35:02 angelox|laptop: ok Sep 26 19:35:14 angelox|laptop: I thought about the whole agent stuff Sep 26 19:35:19 and the property handling Sep 26 19:35:28 I think we should do it another way Sep 26 19:35:38 if you have some time left I will tell you how Sep 26 19:35:48 sure Sep 26 19:35:59 tell me Sep 26 19:36:37 ok Sep 26 19:36:51 the problem we have is the persistence of our settings Sep 26 19:37:05 if we just set the display brightness with the dbus api it is lost after a reboot Sep 26 19:37:18 we can now work around and store it somewhere Sep 26 19:37:30 GNUtoo: is there any emulator for shr? like qemu ? Sep 26 19:37:34 but I like the idea of wrapping things away and let they work automatically Sep 26 19:37:47 so I would like to reintroduce the fsopreferencesd Sep 26 19:38:08 it will use the org.freesmartphone.Preferences API as it is with small additions Sep 26 19:38:18 hmm Sep 26 19:38:20 and uses gsettings (gnome registry) as backend Sep 26 19:38:26 then you have services Sep 26 19:38:38 each services accepts a defined number of settings Sep 26 19:38:41 like display-brightness Sep 26 19:38:48 if display-brightness is now set with the API Sep 26 19:39:04 it is automatically forwarded to the device daemon and stored in the settings backend Sep 26 19:39:17 so we move the call of the device api to the preference daemon Sep 26 19:39:31 and abstract the handling into various services which are part of the daemon Sep 26 19:39:42 as next step we will create a new qml item Sep 26 19:39:44 as a plugin Sep 26 19:39:58 thing about a Preference item you can use as following Sep 26 19:40:03 Preferences { Sep 26 19:40:11 id: devicePreferences Sep 26 19:40:17 service: "device" Sep 26 19:40:18 } Sep 26 19:40:38 the properties of the device service are now provided to the item at runtime Sep 26 19:40:51 so you can call devicePreference.display_brightness Sep 26 19:41:20 and you can set the value for the property and retrieve it Sep 26 19:41:37 hmm Sep 26 19:41:38 if we have this Sep 26 19:42:02 we just need some simple API handling for call initiation ... Sep 26 19:42:15 so we save a lot work Sep 26 19:43:34 angelox|laptop: what do you mean? Sep 26 19:43:54 everything will work in realtime,like if using dbus? Sep 26 19:45:07 yes Sep 26 19:45:34 the services listens for changes and change their stored values accordingly Sep 26 19:46:10 hmm Sep 26 19:46:19 then i think it will be very good Sep 26 19:47:49 that fsopreferencesd is working out-of-the-box? Sep 26 19:48:32 it will Sep 26 19:48:37 I am currently working on it Sep 26 19:49:19 ok Sep 26 19:49:51 what should i work for now? make launcher look good? (with 2 applications is hard...) Sep 26 19:51:39 morphis, so it's part of shr distro I guess Sep 26 19:52:31 yes Sep 26 19:52:33 it will Sep 26 19:52:57 angelox|laptop: yeah, pimp up the launcher would be very nice or the firstuse app Sep 26 19:53:06 or work on the browser Sep 26 19:53:08 or styling Sep 26 19:53:24 I hope I finish first bits of fsopreferencesd very fast so you can support me Sep 26 19:53:27 I have to leave Sep 26 19:53:30 gn8 boys Sep 26 19:53:35 ok,good night Sep 26 19:53:55 what does pimp up mean? Sep 26 19:53:56 ok building Sep 26 19:54:45 angelox|laptop: I would think he means to make it more appealing Sep 26 19:55:45 mrmoku: hmm,makes sense,thanks Sep 26 19:55:49 yw Sep 26 20:09:53 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r3609f617c764 10/aurora-daemon/src/rootwindow.cpp: aurora-daemon: read screen size from the framebuffer on startup Sep 26 20:23:19 hey, anyone have a few minutes to help a newbie getting shr to run on htc dream? Sep 26 20:24:18 rad87: i don't have a htc dream,but what's the problem? Sep 26 20:25:06 i'm trying to boot it via fastboot Sep 26 20:25:43 and it said 'downloading boot.img ... okay, and then 'booting...' Sep 26 20:26:01 the phone is still on the fastboot usb screen Sep 26 20:26:07 and nothing changed Sep 26 20:26:27 and it's been like that for half an hour Sep 26 20:27:08 which seems like something is not working Sep 26 20:28:35 there's no other way of booting else fastboot? Sep 26 20:29:41 well there is, to flash the image onto the device, which is more permanent solution Sep 26 20:30:41 and right now i just want to try it out Sep 26 20:30:59 i see... Sep 26 20:31:07 why don't you try with another kernel? Sep 26 20:31:31 maybe it crashes and the phone doesn't show any visual output Sep 26 20:33:14 thats an idea, i'll try the older one Sep 26 20:36:14 good luck :) Sep 26 20:38:23 seems like that changed nothing :/ Sep 26 20:41:11 then the problem isn't with kernel,at least Sep 26 20:48:06 i haven't too much ideas Sep 26 20:56:21 wpwrak: hello master Sep 26 21:00:01 freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07aurora * r7b03e11731f6 10/aurora-daemon/src/application.cpp: Sep 26 21:00:01 freesmartphone.org: aurora-daemon: improve first-boot detection method Sep 26 21:00:01 freesmartphone.org: Instead just using a directory for checking, Sep 26 21:00:01 freesmartphone.org: create a hidden file without any data. Sep 26 21:02:09 apt: ;-)) Sep 27 02:39:55 uh, why is this a good idea? http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/page/FirmwareInjector/ Sep 27 02:40:12 * pabs3 finds it to be quite stupid Sep 27 02:48:09 * larsc agrees **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 02:59:57 2011