**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 28 02:59:56 2011 Sep 28 05:34:38 pespin: hmm... interesting Sep 28 05:34:54 maybe firing up gdb shows something :) Sep 28 05:37:56 * mrmoku wonders if that thing will be call MeeMo or LiGo :-P Sep 28 05:37:58 http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Bericht-Intel-verheiratet-MeeGo-mit-LiMo-1350716.html Sep 28 05:41:31 is the GTA02 sold anywhere any more? Sep 28 05:41:42 * pabs3 wonders how much stock is left Sep 28 05:55:11 mrmoku: I guess this is related? http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2011/09/limo-foundation-and-linux-foundation-announce-new-open-source-softw Sep 28 05:56:59 pabs3: yeah, sounds very related Sep 28 05:57:10 even though MeeGo is not mentioned Sep 28 05:57:40 thats mentioned at https://meego.com/community/blogs/imad/2011/whats-next-meego Sep 28 05:57:59 moin GNUtoo Sep 28 05:58:16 hi Sep 28 05:59:45 * pabs3 joins #meego for teh lulz Sep 28 06:16:10 mrmoku, do you have an idea on what that means: Sep 28 06:17:29 error: src refspec commit does not match any. Sep 28 06:17:29 hmmm Sep 28 06:17:29 ok Sep 28 06:17:29 I know why Sep 28 06:18:29 SHR: 03GNUtoo 07meta-smartphone * r71f522af8952 10/meta-fso/recipes-freesmartphone/android/android-image-utils-native_git.bb: meta-fso: android-image-utils-native: fix LICENSE and LIC_FILES_CHKSUM Sep 28 06:18:30 SHR: 03GNUtoo 07meta-smartphone * ra790e5a3ad9a 10/meta-shr/conf/distro/include/preferred-shr-versions.inc: meta-shr: preferred-shr-versions.inc also set PREFERRED_QT_VERSION for qt4-native Sep 28 06:25:13 does someone knows how aurora should look like? Sep 28 06:25:13 I've a O with a \ in it in settings Sep 28 06:25:13 when I press settings I've a black screen, same with the phone button and no way to come back to the main menu Sep 28 06:25:14 machine: om-gta02 Sep 28 07:33:27 hi! Once GNUtoo told me there is an autotools-ized version of adb that you made up for FSO/SHR dev. I couldn't find it on http://git.freesmartphone.org/, so do someone know about it? Sep 28 07:55:19 paulk: i did a autotools version of fastboot, but i can't remember that someone did this for adb. All the tools should be here: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=utilities.git;a=tree;f=android Sep 28 07:55:53 HeinervdmOff, yes, I saw fastboot, but I can't find adb there Sep 28 07:56:20 maybe I misunderstood and only fastboot has an autotools version Sep 28 07:57:41 don't know how complex adb is, but perhaps it's not so hard to make a autotools version. Or i missed it and it already exists. Sep 28 07:58:06 Let's for an answer from GNUtoo, when he is back Sep 28 07:59:19 ok Sep 28 09:13:54 <[Rui]> pespin: hi! well, are you using shr-core? (WRT some CPU with the soft key) Sep 28 09:14:40 [Rui], yep Sep 28 09:15:12 <[Rui]> pespin: well, when I can make/receive calls and sms in shr-core as well as currently in shr-unstable... I'll migrate :| Sep 28 09:15:51 <[Rui]> pespin: from mrmoku and gnutoo, yesterday, it seems really close now, requiring only some updates Sep 28 09:16:03 ok :) Sep 28 11:59:36 pespin, are you still using GTA02? Sep 28 12:35:20 methril_work, yeah, not using it as main phone since using shr-core though Sep 28 12:35:46 mostly as music player Sep 28 12:57:07 pespin, at least you give a use for it ;) Sep 28 13:07:06 methril_work, hehe yeah (well, enjoy is not playing any sound right now, I don't know why >.<) did you ask having something in mind? Sep 28 13:07:39 pespin, re-vive my GTA`s :) Sep 28 13:08:12 methril_work, nice, shr_core should be usable for end users quite soon afaik Sep 28 13:10:15 nice Sep 28 13:10:28 i`ll take a look Sep 28 15:28:02 JaMa|Off: | lzma: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Sep 28 15:28:08 is that the one GarthPS is having? Sep 28 15:28:30 (while building virtual/kernel for gta02) Sep 28 15:34:01 mrmoku, I had that one some days ago, but ysterday I built fine Sep 28 15:34:37 mrmoku, try upgrading chroot + make update ? Sep 28 15:41:37 Hi all Sep 28 15:46:30 pespin: it came with an update :-P Sep 28 15:46:49 I even did cleansstate the toolchain and virtual/kernel Sep 28 15:47:19 mrmoku, I did add something JaMa told me, but I couldn't get it to work when it happened. but yesterday I updated and everything worked :P Sep 28 15:47:44 mrmoku, you may want to look at the log from 2 or 3 days ago to see what JaMa suggested Sep 28 15:48:57 pespin: ok, thx Sep 28 15:49:01 * mrmoku fires grep Sep 28 15:49:23 mrmoku, grep for LD_LIBRARY_PATH :P Sep 28 15:50:17 #openmoko-cdevel.25.log:25-09-2011 18:10:24 < JaMa!~martin@94.230.152.246: pespin: so it needs export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.6.1 in some cases Sep 28 15:50:20 #openmoko-cdevel.25.log:25-09-2011 18:13:44 < JaMa!~martin@94.230.152.246: pespin: and if it doesn't help add LD_LIBRARY_PATH to BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE in setup-env Sep 28 15:52:23 yep Sep 28 15:53:06 * mrmoku is trying Sep 28 15:56:41 gah Sep 28 15:57:01 while adding it to EXTRAWHITE I see the following one line after :-P Sep 28 15:57:04 export LD_LIBRARY_PATH= Sep 28 16:02:30 * mrmoku dinner Sep 28 16:21:18 hi mickeyl Sep 28 16:21:24 hi mrmoku Sep 28 16:27:49 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r416ce474fd77 10/fsodeviced/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fsodeviced: add configuration for herring machine (also known as nexus s) Sep 28 16:27:50 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r2200fc15d4bb 10/fsousaged/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fsousaged: add configuration for herring machine (also known as nexus s) Sep 28 16:28:23 GNUtoo: hi, how can i add configuration for freesmartphone to my machine configuration Sep 28 16:28:47 it's detailed in the porting guide Sep 28 16:29:04 did you already read it and have a more precise question? Sep 28 16:29:43 GNUtoo: yeah, that guide talks about /etc/ folder but how can i do configuration in shr-core structure ? Sep 28 16:30:02 it's not in shr-core Sep 28 16:30:04 it's in fso Sep 28 16:30:10 and it get picked by shr-core automatically Sep 28 16:30:25 first do the configuration on the device Sep 28 16:30:32 then scp it to your workstation/laptop Sep 28 16:30:44 then look for a commit adding a configuration Sep 28 16:30:54 and send a patch + update the porting guide Sep 28 16:32:51 morphis, hmmm Sep 28 16:32:56 it suspends the modem and then nothing.... Sep 28 16:32:59 in aurora Sep 28 16:33:13 GNUtoo: aha ok thanks Sep 28 16:33:44 lxsameer, the hardest part is the autotools part Sep 28 16:34:03 it's in adding your configuration to the cornucopia fso repository Sep 28 16:34:14 GNUtoo: whats that Sep 28 16:34:21 GNUtoo: and why is it hard ? Sep 28 16:34:40 because people often forget a part Sep 28 16:34:52 there are too much things to thikn about Sep 28 16:35:03 so select the right commit to look at when you do that Sep 28 16:35:06 GNUtoo: so i will bother you for this step :D Sep 28 16:35:12 or select the right commits with a s Sep 28 16:35:13 ok Sep 28 16:35:18 first do the configs... Sep 28 16:35:22 on the device Sep 28 16:35:27 GNUtoo: ok sure Sep 28 16:37:59 hmmm morphis isn't online Sep 28 16:38:05 angelox|n900, hi Sep 28 16:41:16 GNUtoo, hey Sep 28 16:42:10 did aurora work on the n900? Sep 28 16:43:31 it worked for me,but i didn't test too much stuff Sep 28 16:44:42 call worked? Sep 28 16:44:45 because I've not even the dialer on om-gta02 Sep 28 16:45:39 nope,call didn't worked.. Sep 28 16:49:13 heyho Sep 28 16:49:22 hey morphis! Sep 28 16:49:36 GNUtoo: I have now a rootfs with FSO booted on the nexus s Sep 28 16:52:02 SHR: 03morphis 07meta-smartphone * rd99377f1cd2d 10/meta-samsung/recipes-kernel/linux/ (linux-samsung-crespo/defconfig linux-samsung-crespo_git.bb): meta-samsung: linux-samsung-crespo: enable devtmpfs kernel feature Sep 28 16:52:05 SHR: 03morphis 07meta-smartphone * re6214b83d238 10/meta-samsung/conf/machine/crespo.conf: meta-samsung: add ext2 as preferred image format to machine configuration Sep 28 16:52:15 SHR: 03morphis 07meta-smartphone * rc481ef78f086 10/meta-samsung/recipes-core/initscripts/ (3 files in 2 dirs): meta-samsung: initscripts: add additional initscripts for crespo machine Sep 28 16:52:15 SHR: 03morphis 07meta-smartphone * r4350a27453cf 10/meta-fso/recipes-freesmartphone/images/fso2-console-image.bb: meta-fso: images: add a modified fso2-console-image from oe-dev Sep 28 17:10:46 hi GNUtoo Sep 28 17:19:19 what do you think about this error http://dpaste.com/622728/ Sep 28 17:33:42 mickey_l: heyho Sep 28 17:34:51 heya Sep 28 17:35:01 isn't this year crazy? Sep 28 17:35:09 mickey_l: ? Sep 28 17:35:14 because of meego? Sep 28 17:35:16 yea Sep 28 17:35:17 and webos? Sep 28 17:35:21 one after another gets canned Sep 28 17:35:28 you can't trust any company Sep 28 17:35:32 water on our mills Sep 28 17:36:03 first Nokia, then HP, now Intel Sep 28 17:36:08 it's crazy Sep 28 17:40:36 Tizen? wtf? Sep 28 17:41:02 yep Sep 28 17:41:34 morphis: what's the point of having a default password on install? it's not really different from having an empty one -- to get any security, you have to set your own one in either way... a default password is just an unnecessary inconvenience IMHO Sep 28 17:42:11 this effectively kills meego finally (if it wasn't already)… now intel really expects people to come along to tizen, which will be a more invasive change than from maemo to meego IMO Sep 28 17:43:23 html5-based apps? another webos? This's a crazy world :-/ Sep 28 17:43:59 exactly Sep 28 17:44:17 antrik: you're right Sep 28 17:44:59 mickey_l: aurora transition to oe-core is mostly done Sep 28 17:45:06 morphis: awesome Sep 28 17:45:09 "Much like MeeGo", tizen is doomed to draw away attention and developers' time away from really cool things and then to disappear without producing anything worthy. Governed by the Linux Foundation, of course. Sep 28 17:45:20 yep Sep 28 17:45:32 mickey_l: yes, current work is targeted to get aurora back into a working shape Sep 28 17:47:18 good news Sep 28 17:47:58 mickey_l: mrmoku started vote for a date of the shrfsocon Sep 28 17:48:10 morphis: right, let me pick up that link Sep 28 17:52:39 ok, added myself Sep 28 17:53:12 one after another gets canned Sep 28 17:53:13 you can't trust any company Sep 28 17:53:13 water on our mills Sep 28 17:53:13 first Nokia, then HP, now Intel Sep 28 17:53:13 it's crazy Sep 28 17:53:13 http://www.doodle.com/cvwv38ykahx9b3uy#table Sep 28 17:53:35 d'oh where does that old stuff come Sep 28 17:53:44 ~lart paste buffer Sep 28 17:53:44 * apt pries paste buffer's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to paste buffer Sep 28 17:53:52 what about doing shrfso just after fosdem? Sep 28 17:54:16 that would be a long time in the future, and we all have the feeling that we need a meeting very soon Sep 28 17:54:30 it sounds like a good chance for another one though Sep 28 17:55:00 mickey_l, hi Sep 28 17:55:04 hi GNUtoo Sep 28 17:55:32 for me it's winter hollidays Sep 28 17:55:37 what happened with intel? Sep 28 17:55:51 GNUtoo: what do you think about this error http://dpaste.com/622728/ Sep 28 17:56:41 pespin: hmm... right you were... after updating again it worked :) Sep 28 17:57:14 have you asked the linux hotel, if there is space at these times? because last year there was the problem, that there was no space at the time we've choosen Sep 28 17:57:22 mrmoku, :D Sep 28 17:58:05 Heinervdm: mrmoku has written them Sep 28 17:58:13 ok Sep 28 17:58:28 lxsameer, do you know python? Sep 28 17:58:28 GNUtoo: intel officially abandons meego to launch another thing. google for tizen Sep 28 17:58:28 because it fails here: Sep 28 17:58:36 (locale, charset) = l.split(" ") Sep 28 17:58:42 GNUtoo: yeah i'm love it Sep 28 17:58:49 basically l has only one value Sep 28 17:58:51 so it cannot split it Sep 28 17:58:54 and assign it to two values Sep 28 17:58:56 * mrmoku hides Sep 28 17:59:00 ouch Sep 28 17:59:10 morphis: I forgot to write them Sep 28 17:59:15 mrmoku: hm Sep 28 17:59:20 mrmoku: :) Sep 28 17:59:20 GNUtoo: hmmm i see but what does cause this Sep 28 17:59:30 mrmoku: take it as a reminder :) Sep 28 17:59:36 :P Sep 28 17:59:39 morphis, hi Sep 28 17:59:44 aurora failed to work for me Sep 28 17:59:52 is it expected: it suspends and never wakes up Sep 28 17:59:57 it beeing the modem Sep 28 18:00:03 (fsogsmd) Sep 28 18:00:08 maybe it configured badly Sep 28 18:00:12 should I reflash? Sep 28 18:00:21 because I interupted it during the opkg configure Sep 28 18:01:01 GNUtoo: when exactly do you winter holidays start? Sep 28 18:01:29 I'll look Sep 28 18:02:47 GNUtoo: heyho Sep 28 18:03:04 GNUtoo: I have now a rootfs with fso running on the nexus s Sep 28 18:04:43 mickey_l: you're time is very limited these days? Sep 28 18:05:47 morphis: pretty much, yes. basically there's only the weekends, as we have some tough deadlines to meet until the end of this year at work. Sep 28 18:06:10 ok Sep 28 18:06:30 mickey_l: I started to investiage a little bit in smoke-gobject Sep 28 18:06:43 mickey_l: last problem is, we need gobject-introspection cross compiled ... Sep 28 18:07:06 hmm, i remember that was a bitch to do, although i once got it Sep 28 18:07:10 mickey_l: everything else is ready for use here: https://github.com/morphis/smoke-gobject Sep 28 18:07:40 I created a little generator utility to generate the c++ code from gir files Sep 28 18:07:55 cool! Sep 28 18:07:57 the generated code then just has a dependency on libsmoke-gobject Sep 28 18:08:13 and libsmoke-gobject depends on gobject-introspection Sep 28 18:08:37 mickey_l: I already tried to get a cross-compiled version of gobject-introsecption but it tooks me too much time Sep 28 18:08:59 morphis: ok, this is a job i can take a look Sep 28 18:09:04 into Sep 28 18:09:14 mickey_l: ok, that we be really great Sep 28 18:09:20 revitalizing the rusty build skilz Sep 28 18:09:25 I already created the oe-core base build env on the amethyt Sep 28 18:09:28 :) Sep 28 18:09:37 btw. we switch to shr as distro for aurora Sep 28 18:09:48 as distro config was mostly the same Sep 28 18:10:41 ya, i have seen it. I'm fine with that, as long as we have the flexibility to do the necessary policy decisions wrt. "managers" Sep 28 18:10:50 (i.e. init manager, device manager, and that stuff) Sep 28 18:11:01 it depends on the image Sep 28 18:11:03 not the distro Sep 28 18:11:10 in the current state Sep 28 18:11:25 that stuff was traditionally in the realm of the distro, but these days i see it's shifting more towards the images, which i gusss is a good thing Sep 28 18:12:16 morphis, did you saw my messages about aurora? Sep 28 18:12:23 *see Sep 28 18:12:41 mickey_l: yes Sep 28 18:12:42 GNUtoo: yes Sep 28 18:13:15 ok Sep 28 18:13:23 I'll wget the logs then Sep 28 18:16:20 what should I do for aurora? talk to angelox|n900 instead? Sep 28 18:56:25 wpwrak: I suspect that the circuity auto-loading the firmware from ROM upon boot doesn't prevent replacing it with different firmware later on from the main CPU... I tend to agree though that the ROM-firmware being immutable is a rather pointless restriction Sep 28 18:57:31 antrik: yeah. we should have some faith in the believers :) Sep 28 18:59:31 what can i do instead of Xfree in xorg.conf NOTE: http://dpaste.com/622783/ Sep 28 19:24:06 morphis, are you free to talk about aurora on om-gta02? Sep 28 19:29:02 sorry Sep 28 19:32:02 lxsameer, switch to evdev Sep 28 19:32:02 and you won't get that Sep 28 19:32:28 GNUtoo|laptop: ok but it is what other used in leo xorg.conf Sep 28 19:32:45 ditch xf86-input-tslib: Sep 28 19:32:54 *it's old and not well maintained Sep 28 19:33:09 *xf86-input-evdev works fine Sep 28 19:33:44 GNUtoo|laptop: ok , where should i tell bitbake to use that package, except of xorg.conf Sep 28 19:34:23 in the machine config Sep 28 19:34:32 or in what the machine config includes Sep 28 19:34:39 GNUtoo|laptop: ok thanks Sep 28 19:35:29 basically Sep 28 19:35:40 if you already includes htc-qsd8k.inc Sep 28 19:35:45 override XSERVER Sep 28 19:36:24 to override just put a definition of XSERVER in the machine config after the "require .../path/to/htc-qsd8k.inc" Sep 28 19:36:26 GNUtoo|laptop: ok Sep 28 19:39:23 rah, hi Sep 28 19:39:32 what phone did you have already? htc desire? Sep 28 19:39:59 GNUtoo|laptop: yeah Sep 28 19:40:28 lxsameer and rah , if so you could help each other Sep 28 19:41:24 GNUtoo|laptop: nice Sep 28 19:41:27 rah: hi there Sep 28 19:44:44 eh? Sep 28 19:44:59 rah: do you work on bravo too ? Sep 28 19:45:08 not me, no Sep 28 19:45:17 ah I remembered badly Sep 28 19:45:22 I have a motorola dext (morrison) Sep 28 19:45:23 maybe a samsung phone then? Sep 28 19:45:26 ah right Sep 28 19:45:40 sorry :-) Sep 28 19:45:44 np Sep 28 19:46:04 mickeyl, ping Sep 28 19:46:15 mickeyl, can I push htcdream 2.6.32 branch to fso? Sep 28 19:50:27 GNUtoo: http://dpaste.com/622825/ Sep 28 19:50:44 GNUtoo: it seems that tslib is needed to create X Sep 28 19:52:17 no it's not Sep 28 19:52:27 clean the task with -c cleansstate Sep 28 19:52:31 and restart building Sep 28 19:52:48 bitbake -c cleansstate task-minimal-shr Sep 28 19:53:37 GNUtoo: ok Sep 28 19:55:01 GNUtoo: NoProvider: task-minimal-shr Sep 28 19:55:22 task-shr-minimal Sep 28 19:55:28 yes Sep 28 19:55:37 I made a typo, sorry Sep 28 19:55:49 GNUtoo: ;) Sep 28 20:06:28 PaulFertser: from the very beginning, Mozilla among all software projects I know was winning hands down on having the most useless version numbering ever. whenever I'm getting the hope that they are finally finding some sanity, they manage to "surprise" me with another epic fail Sep 28 22:03:10 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r61bbb42de339 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/tasks/task-shr-minimal.bb: Revert "task-shr-minimal: drop libphone-ui and libphone-ui-shr as they should be pulled by shr apps" **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 29 02:59:56 2011