**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Nov 10 02:59:58 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Nov 10 05:56:30 2011 Nov 10 06:28:45 DocScrutinizer: hehe... fun Nov 10 07:14:32 yup Nov 10 07:19:14 they handed out 300 (three hundred!!) N950 devel devices to selected community members, to develop aps for "meego" HARM, and then do that: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Discussion/showthread.php?229963-Nokia-N9-Chinese-flash-files --- for Lumia (spanish "whore") the give away 25 THOUSAND devel devices Nov 10 07:22:24 anyway I guess M$ made more in the time it took me to write this than the whole 25k fancy giveaway costs them (~$4mio I guess, maybe less) Nov 10 07:42:10 developers, developers, developers... Nov 10 08:05:01 DocScrutinizer: yeah... disgusting Nov 10 08:05:39 JaMa|Off: what do you think... you make a video of yourself while singing 'developers, developers, developers' and promissing to hand out 25k shr-chroots for free? Nov 10 08:06:10 let me check how many devs already cloned that :) Nov 10 08:06:19 :) Nov 10 08:08:43 the N9 is actually a nice brick Nov 10 08:09:10 though I'd never use it until my last gta01 died Nov 10 08:09:56 makes for a nice nightdesk clock though ;-P Nov 10 08:10:13 2 weeks on one battery charge :-o Nov 10 08:10:31 without alarm Nov 10 08:10:54 the alarms *I* need will reduce that to 3 days Nov 10 08:12:58 :) Nov 10 08:13:48 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * rca926a71dc8d 10/ (281 files in 31 dirs): system upgrade Nov 10 08:18:48 mrmoku: but actually AMOLED is friggin amazing Nov 10 08:19:19 at least regarding this feature to display a small bit of dim thin info with minimal energy Nov 10 08:19:59 ok Nov 10 08:20:59 the downside: they have to move the clock display location on screen every minute, to avoid burn in Nov 10 08:21:56 I heard you can get burn in ghosts after as few as couple of minutes @ max brightness Nov 10 08:23:46 the extreme contrast makes AMOLED look crisp and bright, but in sun it's not really as bright and readable as you maybe thought it was Nov 10 08:29:15 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r89062db0190c 10/meta-aurora/recipes-aurora/aurora/aurora-daemon_git.bb: aurora-daemon: export XDG_DATA_DIRS to help valac find vapis Nov 10 09:37:46 hm, 25K devices, they must be pretty scared of another failure :p Nov 10 09:38:39 Development Frameworks: C#, XNA, Silverlight Nov 10 09:38:57 what a broad options to choose from Nov 10 09:59:27 mrmoku: while this surely will work, i don't see the benefit Nov 10 10:00:11 at least remove the outer variable Nov 10 10:00:29 we don't need that, the closure will capture the block if you define it in the innter scope Nov 10 10:00:33 s/innter/inner/ Nov 10 10:00:33 mickey|office meant: we don't need that, the closure will capture the block if you define it in the inner scope Nov 10 11:39:26 mickey|office: like this you mean? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/505711/ Nov 10 11:39:51 mickey|office: and what part of the benefit don't you see? :) Nov 10 11:46:13 mrmoku: ya, looks good. forget the benefit command, didn't see the loading from config Nov 10 11:47:30 mickey|office: ok :-) thx Nov 10 11:48:40 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07cornucopia * rfbf2be737c46 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/dbus_service/commands.vala: Nov 10 11:48:40 freesmartphone.org: fsousaged: drop the unneeded cmd var from Shutdown and Reboot commands Nov 10 11:48:40 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Nov 10 11:49:19 mickey|office: btw. the problem was /sbin and /usr/sbin not being in PATH of dbus-activated programs Nov 10 11:49:25 that broke shutdown Nov 10 12:04:59 ah, interesting Nov 10 12:11:54 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * re8ef6e1faff8 10/ (20 files in 7 dirs): bitbake upgrade Nov 10 12:22:19 JaMa|Off, could you ping me once mplayer using mad dec is in feeds? :) Nov 10 20:27:31 mrmoku: GNUtoo: hello, i am trying to capture modem frames from my host computer from N900, but tcpdump -i usbpn0 -s 0 gived no output Nov 10 20:27:46 can anybody support me please ? Nov 10 20:28:24 nschle85, hi Nov 10 20:28:31 for GPS? Nov 10 20:28:37 GNUtoo: yes Nov 10 20:29:02 capturing packets on N900 via phonet0 works Nov 10 20:29:16 but i cannot route them to my host computer Nov 10 20:29:26 nschle85: I don't get what you want to do Nov 10 20:30:24 nschle85, that will capture both modem packets and gps packets Nov 10 20:30:31 you want strace instead Nov 10 20:30:32 phonet0->upnlink0->usb cable->usbpn0 Nov 10 20:30:49 GNUtoo: yes i know Nov 10 20:31:04 and i want to send some packages Nov 10 20:31:26 nschle85, route correctly and try to capture on your laptop directly Nov 10 20:31:27 i need to open a interface like phonet0 on my host computer Nov 10 20:31:41 let me find the page Nov 10 20:31:47 but I'm also talking to a friend Nov 10 20:31:57 and trying to solve the VGA issue I have with coreboot Nov 10 20:32:01 so it's 3 things at once Nov 10 20:32:02 nschle85: you need to open a interface... WHY? Nov 10 20:32:30 DocScrutinizer51: to use libgisi Nov 10 20:33:00 sorry I don't get it, your answers don't make sense to me Nov 10 20:33:05 nschle85, https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-cellular/phonet-utils/blobs/master/misc/if-pre-up Nov 10 20:33:25 DocScrutinizer, he wants to develop on his laptop Nov 10 20:33:41 so he don't have to cross compile+scp Nov 10 20:33:47 *doesnt' Nov 10 20:33:52 hmm Nov 10 20:34:21 GNUtoo: i am using excacly that script Nov 10 20:34:58 and checking witch phonet and pnroute gives the correct results to me Nov 10 20:36:42 I was suggesting http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=73753&highlight=wireshark but meh Nov 10 20:36:43 ok Nov 10 20:37:43 GNUtoo: http://pastebin.com/dEN8yH4j Nov 10 20:38:16 nschle85, and what doesn't work exactly? tcpdump shows nothing? Nov 10 20:38:50 GNUtoo: using tcpdump on n900 on phonet0 works Nov 10 20:39:08 do you see what you send on phonet0? Nov 10 20:39:15 for instance you send from your laptop Nov 10 20:39:20 and look on phonet0 Nov 10 20:39:39 GNUtoo: using tcpdunp on desktop computer on usbpn0 does not work Nov 10 20:39:47 ah Nov 10 20:39:49 I've to try Nov 10 20:39:51 let me look Nov 10 20:39:53 GNUtoo: at the moment i am sending nothinh Nov 10 20:40:01 try that: Nov 10 20:40:04 send something from your pc Nov 10 20:40:09 and look on phonet0 Nov 10 20:40:32 GNUtoo: how ? i did not prepare something Nov 10 20:40:39 there are test uttilities Nov 10 20:41:10 I'd be rather amazed if phonet0 could get shared between on-device processes talking to it and an pipe thru USB exposing it to PC and doing concurrent chat, without both conflicting with each other Nov 10 20:42:05 mrmoku, and mickey used phonet0 from laptop if I remember well Nov 10 20:42:24 just to see if it works though Nov 10 20:42:29 did not use it really Nov 10 20:42:42 mickey used it tough Nov 10 20:42:43 nschle85: tcpdump is the interesting thing Nov 10 20:42:53 and probably on a device system that had *no* processes messing with cmt at all Nov 10 20:42:57 GNUtoo: mrmoku: i found an old discussion where mickey wanted to do exactly what i want to do Nov 10 20:43:40 ok Nov 10 20:43:41 and? Nov 10 20:44:09 honestly I can't see how concurrent communication to phonet0 shall work Nov 10 20:46:15 even when thinking of phonet0 as a weird kind of ethernet network, your libgisi on PC will probably conflict with stuff on N900 trying to talk to same subsystems in modem Nov 10 20:47:43 and I wonder if there's some kind of router inside phonet0 to allow having more than 2 "NIC" talking to that bus Nov 10 20:50:22 tracing traffic is easy, e.g with the wireshark way I linked to above ( http://maemo.cloud-7.de/wireshark1.4.4_ISI/readme.txt ) - *talking* to modem from concurrent peers may create all sorts of strange effects I guess Nov 10 20:50:34 GNUtoo: it was yesterday ... still googeling Nov 10 20:52:21 bottom line: you at very least should a) tear down all processes on phone talking to phonet0, and b) have a look into how phonet0 actually works and how it's exported to USB Nov 10 21:03:55 GNUtoo: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23openmoko-cdevel/20110228.html.gz Nov 10 21:04:24 GNUtoo: from this timestamp: 19:24.52 mickeyl mickey@saphir:/local/pkg/fso/cornucopia$ sudo sendisi usbpn0 0a Nov 10 21:05:03 let me boot my n900 Nov 10 21:05:08 GNUtoo: so i think that it should be possible Nov 10 21:05:11 it still has the 3.0 kernel Nov 10 21:05:13 it is possible Nov 10 21:05:16 let me look Nov 10 21:06:02 is the problem that i also have configured usb networking ? Nov 10 21:06:27 let me look Nov 10 21:06:37 just that it doesn't boot anymore Nov 10 21:07:40 upnlink0 (n900) has no rx/tx packages Nov 10 21:08:11 only phonet0 and usb0 has packages Nov 10 21:08:11 ? Nov 10 21:08:23 ah packets you mean Nov 10 21:08:25 output of ifconfig ifconfig Nov 10 21:08:45 can you do ls -l /boot ? Nov 10 21:09:19 heyho Nov 10 21:09:19 http://pastebin.com/bUUjYhEQ Nov 10 21:09:21 GNUtoo: ping Nov 10 21:09:33 morphis, pong Nov 10 21:09:41 GNUtoo: 2.6.37 Nov 10 21:09:58 GNUtoo: when you have some free time I have some simple task for you Nov 10 21:10:04 nschle85, there is 0 for tx and 0 for rx Nov 10 21:10:20 GNUtoo: i can see is that normal ? Nov 10 21:10:23 morphis, ok what's the task? Nov 10 21:10:29 no it's not Nov 10 21:10:36 but let me boot my n900 please Nov 10 21:10:41 GNUtoo: you still have your geeksphone? Nov 10 21:10:46 yes Nov 10 21:10:51 do you want it? Nov 10 21:11:44 do you have a battery for it now? Nov 10 21:11:47 no Nov 10 21:11:55 should I try again to order one? Nov 10 21:12:26 no Nov 10 21:12:33 so you can't power it up? Nov 10 21:12:41 yes indeed Nov 10 21:12:43 that's the problem Nov 10 21:12:50 and no time to play with it right now Nov 10 21:12:50 ok than forget about what I said Nov 10 21:12:57 morphis, what was the task then? Nov 10 21:13:03 I just wanted you to make some quick trace of the msm rpc stuff Nov 10 21:13:08 ok Nov 10 21:13:14 as I have some open questions in my head about that Nov 10 21:13:23 and I want answers :) Nov 10 21:13:30 and I need traces for this Nov 10 21:13:38 as I don't have a device which uses the protocol Nov 10 21:13:43 ok Nov 10 21:13:56 as the HP Veer uses some other part of the RPC stuff but not the parts I want Nov 10 21:13:59 anyway Nov 10 21:14:00 never mind Nov 10 21:14:01 if I send or give you the geeksphone one will you do something with it? Nov 10 21:14:14 no Nov 10 21:14:19 ok Nov 10 21:14:20 no time Nov 10 21:14:22 :) Nov 10 21:14:48 just libmsmrpc popped up in my head and I thought about why I didn't get it working on the HP Veer Nov 10 21:15:04 as I have some help from some other source (you know it) Nov 10 21:15:14 yes Nov 10 21:17:56 maybe I will found someone else Nov 10 21:18:12 maybe I should found you someone Nov 10 21:18:14 GNUtoo: I am still waiting for a response from samsung Nov 10 21:18:19 ok Nov 10 21:18:22 who? Nov 10 21:18:43 there was someone in #replicant with a geeskphone one Nov 10 21:18:50 I don't remember his name tough Nov 10 21:18:54 and my logs are gone Nov 10 21:18:57 maybe rah Nov 10 21:19:15 ah no rah had another qualcomm phone, maybe htc desire Nov 10 21:19:19 I don't remember sorry Nov 10 21:19:52 ok Nov 10 21:20:07 just don't think about it anymore we have some more important things to do Nov 10 21:20:21 ok Nov 10 21:20:35 I asked in #replicant and if I've no response I won't do something about it Nov 10 21:20:49 ok Nov 10 21:21:13 btw do you got ALSA on nexus s working again? Nov 10 21:21:25 as it failed for me and you tried to and it didn't worked? Nov 10 21:21:52 I'm busy with 2 things actually: Nov 10 21:22:05 1) the port of the mainline kernel to the nexus S Nov 10 21:22:13 that would make alsa work in the long term Nov 10 21:22:14 mickey|babybusy, nice nick name :) Nov 10 21:22:28 2)the port of coreboot to my mainboard(easy) Nov 10 21:22:32 ok Nov 10 21:22:42 how far you are with the nexus s kernel? Nov 10 21:22:46 does serial work now? Nov 10 21:22:47 not far Nov 10 21:22:50 not yet Nov 10 21:23:15 I'll continue tomorrow Nov 10 21:23:22 I was sidetracked by nschle85 issue Nov 10 21:23:24 with n900 Nov 10 21:23:32 GNUtoo: sorry :-( Nov 10 21:23:39 np Nov 10 21:24:03 GNUtoo: but i am sitting since 3 days on that problem Nov 10 21:24:23 nschle85: what exactly are you trying to do ? Nov 10 21:25:07 ha it seem to boot Nov 10 21:25:16 I must not load g_nokia on my laptop Nov 10 21:25:19 i want to access the n900 ponet0 interface from my host computer, via tcpdump Nov 10 21:25:21 it freezes it Nov 10 21:25:26 hehe Nov 10 21:25:36 nschle85: why that? Nov 10 21:25:49 sounds like a unnecessary thing Nov 10 21:26:04 tcpdump runs nicely on the device Nov 10 21:26:16 and you can then copy the dump file to your host Nov 10 21:26:25 and inspect it with wireshark Nov 10 21:26:47 mrmoku: no i really want to do is to open the device from my host computer with help of libisi Nov 10 21:27:14 then try that directly Nov 10 21:27:16 let me look Nov 10 21:27:16 for implementing GPS Nov 10 21:27:25 usbpn0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 1B-00-FF-FF-FF-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 Nov 10 21:28:29 looks like on my host Nov 10 21:30:02 mrmoku: 19:24.52 mickeyl mickey@saphir:/local/pkg/fso/cornucopia$ sudo sendisi usbpn0 0a Nov 10 21:30:40 mrmoku: mickel was able to to that i think Nov 10 21:31:01 mrmoku: for testing the connection i use tcpdump Nov 10 21:31:17 which will give no output on usbpn0 Nov 10 21:33:35 seem to work for me Nov 10 21:33:42 /GISI/Netlink/Bringup: ** (/home/gnutoo/embedded/userspace/libgisi/tests/.libs/lt-testping:15253): DEBUG: testping.vala:74: netlink status for modem 0x129fd30 (usbpn0) now PN_LINK_UP Nov 10 21:34:17 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:23 (23.0 B) Nov 10 21:34:42 GNUtoo: hmmm Nov 10 21:35:06 does tcpdump work ? Nov 10 21:35:53 please connect tcpdump, open the settings/phone/operators Nov 10 21:36:12 ok Nov 10 21:36:19 I'll put a sim inside Nov 10 21:36:57 yes it works Nov 10 21:37:01 I didn't change the default Nov 10 21:37:12 22:36:05.593027 Out ethertype Unknown (0x00f5), length 27: Nov 10 21:37:12 0x0000: 0010 1b00 0600 4b01 f012 00 ......K.... Nov 10 21:37:14 twice Nov 10 21:37:25 I've an old image tough Nov 10 21:37:29 I'll compile a more recent Nov 10 21:37:33 it's shr-core still Nov 10 21:37:46 but it gives out put Nov 10 21:38:02 on my tcpdump is silence Nov 10 21:38:21 what have you configured ? Nov 10 21:39:37 GNUtoo: please see, thats my desktop computer: http://pastebin.com/atrBzDkJ Nov 10 21:39:56 GNUtoo: 17 errors Nov 10 21:41:11 ah? Nov 10 21:41:19 I've configured nothing Nov 10 21:41:28 I just did the ping program Nov 10 21:41:30 unmodified Nov 10 21:41:47 the only thing I changed is to go before the vala 0.12.1 change Nov 10 21:41:54 but after that no changes were made Nov 10 21:42:10 no pnroute ?? no phonet commands ? Nov 10 21:42:17 it's because my desktop has vala 0.12.0 Nov 10 21:42:22 and not vala 0.12.1 Nov 10 21:42:26 no Nov 10 21:42:32 it's done by a boot script Nov 10 21:42:40 so I didn't have to change that Nov 10 21:42:49 is upnlink0 UP ? Nov 10 21:43:04 no Nov 10 21:43:05 sorry Nov 10 21:43:09 I'll retry Nov 10 21:43:21 now it is Nov 10 21:43:27 it was down at the beginning Nov 10 21:43:30 I did the command Nov 10 21:43:40 and the command bringed it up automatically it seems Nov 10 21:43:58 the if-pre-up ? Nov 10 21:44:01 no Nov 10 21:44:06 I didn't touch the phone Nov 10 21:44:16 I'm talking about the desktop ping comand Nov 10 21:44:21 and on your host ? Nov 10 21:44:41 on my host I did that(I'll repeat what Isaid before): Nov 10 21:44:46 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r33f645320530 10/aurora-daemon/src/services/cellularservice.vala: Nov 10 21:44:46 freesmartphone.org: aurora-daemon: require usage dbus service with async operation so UI is still accessible Nov 10 21:44:46 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch Nov 10 21:44:46 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r1c5ebf2ad3c3 10/aurora-daemon/data/theme/layouts/800_480_210.params: Nov 10 21:44:46 freesmartphone.org: aurora-daemon: adjust font sizes for 480x800@210dpi resolution Nov 10 21:44:46 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch Nov 10 21:44:46 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r8e9906e5410a 10/aurora-daemon/src/bin/application.cpp: Nov 10 21:44:47 freesmartphone.org: aurora-daemon: use correct settings format when initializing an instance of QSetting class Nov 10 21:44:48 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch Nov 10 21:44:48 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * re383b069b6ce 10/aurora-daemon/src/applications/app-phone/ (Makefile.am app-phone.info appinfo.ini): Nov 10 21:44:49 freesmartphone.org: aurora-daemon: rename application specific settings file Nov 10 21:44:49 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch Nov 10 21:44:50 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r0bcf197c2b12 10/aurora-daemon/src/bin/ (9 files): Nov 10 21:44:50 freesmartphone.org: aurora-daemon: implement first parts towarding a global application storage Nov 10 21:44:51 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch Nov 10 21:44:51 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r16a0f0ef00d1 10/aurora-daemon/ (14 files in 6 dirs): Nov 10 21:45:28 git checkout c993ee694ea98597d619a1ffae397d3416233354 in libgisi Nov 10 21:45:34 compiled it with vala 0.12.0 Nov 10 21:45:46 after installing that vala version from aptitde install Nov 10 21:45:47 then: Nov 10 21:45:56 cd tests Nov 10 21:45:57 sudo su Nov 10 21:46:07 ./testping Nov 10 21:47:55 please excute on host: pnroute Nov 10 21:48:14 I've to compile it first Nov 10 21:48:48 so you are sure its not configured by udev Nov 10 21:48:54 strange Nov 10 21:49:12 why https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-cellular/phonet-utils/blobs/master/misc/if-pre-up is needed ? Nov 10 21:50:08 pnroute returns nothing Nov 10 21:50:09 GNUtoo: do you have a usb network connection to n900 open ? Nov 10 21:50:13 yes Nov 10 21:50:17 GNUtoo: i also have Nov 10 21:50:45 let me add a sim Nov 10 21:51:20 I am off Nov 10 21:51:20 gn8 Nov 10 21:57:22 http://www.pastie.org/private/gq7vpkovhtpujbme12yna Nov 10 21:59:28 GNUtoo: this looks not ok ? Nov 10 21:59:53 no idea Nov 10 22:00:01 it just produce something for tcpdump Nov 10 22:00:11 is there tcpdump in oe-core? Nov 10 22:00:26 yes Nov 10 22:00:33 its installed on my phone Nov 10 22:00:41 and it works on phonet0 Nov 10 22:01:23 GNUtoo: http://www.pastie.org/2844126 Nov 10 22:01:41 will look in some seconds Nov 10 22:02:14 tcpdump the interface while doing testpin Nov 10 22:02:21 and you'll see some stuff going trough it Nov 10 22:02:43 dump from phone: http://www.pastie.org/2844130 Nov 10 22:02:56 this is when the operators list is fetched Nov 10 22:06:16 nschle85, is there tcpdump in the SHR feeds? Nov 10 22:07:03 yes, but is has a different name Nov 10 22:07:09 like nettools Nov 10 22:07:14 really? Nov 10 22:07:16 strange Nov 10 22:07:16 ok Nov 10 22:07:37 it's compiling the image currently Nov 10 22:08:40 no, it is called tcpdump :-) Nov 10 22:09:51 ok Nov 10 22:09:54 I'll look Nov 10 22:10:56 GNUtoo: meta-openembedded/meta-oe/recipes-support/tcpdump/tcpdump_4.1.1.bb Nov 10 22:12:10 opkg updating Nov 10 22:12:45 GNUtoo: wow, you have a fast machine ... Nov 10 22:13:08 no Nov 10 22:13:13 I download from the feeds Nov 10 22:13:18 I'm still building the image Nov 10 22:13:24 ok Nov 10 22:13:28 and I do have a fast machine but not that fast Nov 10 22:14:25 GNUtoo: my build server is often idle, do you need builds for a specific machine ? Nov 10 22:14:35 GNUtoo: only for testing Nov 10 22:14:44 I just need tcpdump Nov 10 22:14:52 I'll get it from the official feeds Nov 10 22:22:30 GNUtoo: my build failed: | /bin/sh: /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/shr-core-n900/workspace/shr-core/tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/share/build-1/x86_64-linux-libtool: No such file or directory Nov 10 22:22:42 relying to meego for N900 devel isn't the most bright thing to do Nov 10 22:22:56 ask JaMa Nov 10 22:23:26 JaMa: hello, a fresh build failed: | /bin/sh: /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/shr-core-n900/workspace/shr-core/tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/share/build-1/x86_64-linux-libtool: No such file or directory Nov 10 22:23:31 meego kernel is worse than maemo kernel, and a lot of their other "receipes" are a little mogy in the middle as well Nov 10 22:25:18 JaMa: details: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-n900/78/console Nov 10 22:28:39 md5sum mismatch Nov 10 22:29:31 GNUtoo: where ? Nov 10 22:29:36 at opkg install Nov 10 22:29:55 I'll build tcpdump Nov 10 22:30:34 i have also one Nov 10 22:30:47 but md5sum may be also a different :-) Nov 10 22:30:51 indeed Nov 10 22:31:19 installing from ipk should work Nov 10 22:31:22 or I can just remove it from the list Nov 10 22:31:25 and it'll work Nov 10 22:33:48 ok done Nov 10 22:35:45 to generate some test output i open the settings,phone,operators then the operator list is fetched from the modem Nov 10 22:38:04 indeed I've the same result than you Nov 10 22:38:31 GNUtoo: do i not understand how all these things work ? Nov 10 22:38:37 I do a bit Nov 10 22:38:46 mrmoku, understands more than me Nov 10 22:38:54 he had the documentation from nokia Nov 10 22:39:12 you could sign an NDA to get it Nov 10 22:40:26 mrmoku: mickey seems to be busy... Nov 10 22:40:45 GNUtoo: mickey seems to be busy... Nov 10 22:40:50 yes Nov 10 22:41:07 I'll try Nov 10 22:46:40 JaMa: hello, is it worth creating a ticket for the compile problem or should i build again this night ? Nov 10 22:51:28 nschle85, are all your interfaces up? Nov 10 22:52:08 because with messing a bit with phonet I can send something from the computer usb interface and see it trough the 2 other interfaces but not yet the countrary Nov 10 22:52:36 GNUtoo: yes all are up Nov 10 22:52:51 are you there tomorrow? Nov 10 22:53:15 GNUtoo: yes, when my baby is in bed Nov 10 22:53:28 i think 19.00 german time Nov 10 22:54:07 because it's really late Nov 10 22:55:42 GNUtoo: ok i understand, iam also tired and my ssh connection to the phone is hanging now Nov 10 22:55:59 ok Nov 10 22:56:13 GNUtoo: ups the whole phone is "frozen" Nov 10 22:56:20 ah? Nov 10 22:56:35 i started the ping several times Nov 10 22:56:51 to see what the phonet0 receives Nov 10 22:56:52 then reboot it and power it off Nov 10 22:57:41 why reboot ? Nov 10 22:57:50 because it's frozen Nov 10 22:58:00 now its off :-) Nov 10 22:58:02 by reboot I mean remove the batteyr Nov 10 22:58:03 ok Nov 10 22:59:39 so thank you we see us tomorrow Nov 10 22:59:51 have a good night Nov 10 22:59:59 i am tired too Nov 10 23:00:02 bye Nov 10 23:00:10 bye Nov 10 23:00:27 but i have to open a ticket for compiling issue Nov 10 23:00:34 then i can go to bed Nov 10 23:45:58 ~xxxtest is xxx-test-result Nov 10 23:45:58 okay, DocScrutinizer Nov 10 23:46:06 ~literal xxxtest Nov 10 23:46:06 "xxxtest" is "xxx-test-result" Nov 10 23:46:28 ~xxxtest Nov 10 23:46:29 rumour has it, xxxtest is xxx-test-result Nov 10 23:47:21 apt: no, xxxtest is #openmoko-cdevel xxx-test-result Nov 10 23:47:22 DocScrutinizer: okay Nov 10 23:47:25 ~literal xxxtest Nov 10 23:47:26 "xxxtest" is "#openmoko-cdevel xxx-test-result" Nov 10 23:47:31 ~xxxtest Nov 10 23:47:32 i guess xxxtest is #openmoko-cdevel xxx-test-result Nov 10 23:47:43 dang Nov 10 23:47:56 apt: no, xxxtest is #openmoko xxx-test-result Nov 10 23:47:56 DocScrutinizer: okay Nov 10 23:48:01 ~xxxtest Nov 10 23:48:02 somebody said xxxtest was #openmoko xxx-test-result Nov 10 23:48:19 ~literal flashing Nov 10 23:48:20 "#openmoko-cdevel flashing" is "http://wiki.openmoko.org/flashing" Nov 10 23:48:55 ~flashing Nov 10 23:48:56 flashing is probably http://wiki.openmoko.org/flashing Nov 10 23:49:19 meh Nov 10 23:49:24 <---idiot Nov 10 23:49:39 forget xxxtest Nov 10 23:50:06 ~#openmoko-cdevel xxxtest is chanspec-result Nov 10 23:50:06 DocScrutinizer: okay Nov 10 23:50:11 ~xxxtest Nov 10 23:50:12 i guess xxxtest is chanspec-result Nov 10 23:50:21 ~literal xxxtest Nov 10 23:50:21 "#openmoko-cdevel xxxtest" is "chanspec-result" Nov 10 23:50:51 ~+chanset Nov 10 23:50:52  Desc: set a variable for a channel Nov 10 23:50:53  Usage: chanset [#chan] [what] [val] Nov 10 23:50:53 Example: chanset #c +test Nov 10 23:50:53 Example: chanset #c -test Nov 10 23:50:53 Example: chanset #c test Nov 10 23:50:54 Example: chanset #c test 0 Nov 10 23:50:54 Example: chanset #c test testing123 Nov 10 23:51:01 ~+chanset #openmoko-cdevel Nov 10 23:51:01 chan: #openmoko-cdevel (see _default also) Nov 10 23:51:02 _time_added => 1254161553, autojoin => apt, factoidSearch => $chan #openmoko _default Nov 10 23:51:36 ~xxxtest is non-chan-specific Nov 10 23:51:37 ...but xxxtest is already something else... Nov 10 23:51:47 ~forget xxxtest Nov 10 23:51:48 i forgot xxxtest, DocScrutinizer Nov 10 23:51:52 ~xxxtest Nov 10 23:51:53 extra, extra, read all about it, xxxtest is chanspec-result Nov 10 23:52:02 ~xxxtest is non-chan-specific Nov 10 23:52:02 DocScrutinizer: okay Nov 10 23:52:05 ~xxxtest Nov 10 23:52:05 xxxtest is probably chanspec-result Nov 10 23:52:24 ~literal xxxtest Nov 10 23:52:24 "#openmoko-cdevel xxxtest" is "chanspec-result" Nov 10 23:52:43 ~literal #_default xxxtest Nov 10 23:52:50 meh Nov 10 23:52:54 sorry for the noise Nov 11 00:29:25 that fills many openmoko screens :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Nov 11 02:59:57 2011