**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 06 02:59:57 2011 Dec 06 05:36:48 an anyone suggest me a light-weighted web browser which supports external plugins ???? Dec 06 06:33:44 dos1: yay, great... I knew I was asking the right one :-) Dec 06 07:17:30 moin JaMa Dec 06 07:18:29 JaMa: http://build.shr-project.org/tests/site/ Dec 06 07:24:42 [250137.271] (EE) ioctl EVIOCGNAME failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Dec 06 07:24:45 [250137.271] (EE) PreInit returned 8 for "Touchscreen" Dec 06 07:29:57 mrmoku: nice :) Dec 06 07:38:52 JaMa: indeed... dos1 is good at that :) Dec 06 08:04:44 mrmoku: and that xserver error is from gta04? Dec 06 08:25:59 JaMa: yup, and went away when I switched from /dev/input/mouse0 to /dev/input/event0 Dec 06 08:28:12 * mrmoku off to a client Dec 06 09:48:25 meh, fatfingershell is still broken :( Dec 06 09:48:55 it complains about 640x480 while running in 640x480 (gta02) Dec 06 10:46:43 hello Dec 06 10:46:48 any shr devel here? Dec 06 10:48:32 yes Dec 06 12:19:46 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r337eb2986e14 10/ (345 files in 53 dirs): system upgrade Dec 06 12:22:09 huh CIA where have you been? pushed at 09:10:25 Dec 06 12:25:01 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r2f5a244e8549 10/meta-shr/conf/distro/include/preferred-shr-versions.inc: meta-shr: prefer any subversion-1.7.% Dec 06 14:49:10 mrmoku: http://build.shr-project.org/tests/site/ Dec 06 14:53:04 in place of "About this draft" there will be "Download" section with wizard, in which one can select image type, flavour and device Dec 06 15:00:07 dos1: :) Dec 06 15:02:12 JaMa: I saw you fixed the svn issue - save to remove it from local.conf, right? Dec 06 15:03:41 hey people Dec 06 15:03:54 dos1: sorry leaved here last night too quickly.. Dec 06 15:06:52 angelox|laptop: no problem Dec 06 15:07:06 angelox|laptop: http://build.shr-project.org/tests/site/ Dec 06 15:07:42 but now i'm fighting with some nasty integrals ;] Dec 06 15:07:48 dos1: wow, fantastic! These effects are what? flash? Dec 06 15:07:56 angelox|laptop: javascript Dec 06 15:08:29 dos1: didn't know javascript could be so good Dec 06 15:08:55 angelox|laptop: search for some nasty html5 demos, it can do a lot more than that :) Dec 06 15:09:11 i'll do for sure :D Dec 06 15:09:24 i'll have a dinner now, bbl Dec 06 15:10:12 (where "html5" was used as marketing term for "using javascript to do nice tricks with parts of new css3 specs" ;)) Dec 06 15:20:56 ah, cool, i didn't know Dec 06 16:14:58 mrmoku: yes, I've fixed it just after you've sent me the upgrade commit.. so can be removed from local.conf :) Dec 06 16:22:55 ~seen morphis Dec 06 16:23:01 morphis <~morphis@dslb-092-076-172-134.pools.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 4d 19h 37m ago, saying: 'gn8'. Dec 06 16:26:13 is it everyone searching for morphis? :) Dec 06 16:26:59 I've seen Mr. Smith looking for him too... Dec 06 16:27:48 lol Dec 06 16:30:06 poor morphis :P Dec 06 16:30:26 mickey_office: he's hiding for some reason ;) Dec 06 17:29:13 crespo image added to 004 :) Dec 06 17:29:53 poor old buildhost found 4 more recipes failing with current EFL while doing that Dec 06 17:56:26 pespin: heyho :) Dec 06 17:56:34 pespin: care to fix emtooth2 with latest elm? Dec 06 17:56:51 or do you want me to send you patch first? Dec 06 17:57:01 | src/gui.vala:594.29-594.47: error: The name `label_get' does not exist in the context of `Elm.ListItem' Dec 06 17:57:15 and there is still pending patch for BINDINGS/vala in efl.. Dec 06 18:10:10 JaMa, I'll fix it now Dec 06 18:10:36 JaMa, about vala, I fixed it in the gitorious repo Dec 06 18:10:55 JaMa, what are we going to do with old efvala apps? ffphonelog, ffalarms, etc. Dec 06 18:13:04 those are not compatible with newer eflvala Dec 06 18:13:54 I've fixed them all for vala we have now in meta-efl Dec 06 18:14:08 which is trunk + that patch for label_get Dec 06 18:17:39 JaMa, yeah but once I'll move eflvala I have in gitorious to E, apps should be fixed (and will not be only a easy sed command) Dec 06 18:19:51 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * re8fa90e16bb9 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/3rdparty/ (2 files in 2 dirs): mokojeweled: fix for newer elementary Dec 06 18:19:56 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rc53c6be27f8e 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/3rdparty/ (3 files in 2 dirs): intone: fix for newer elementary Dec 06 18:20:05 pespin: those apps are pretty simple Dec 06 18:20:25 pespin: so if someone still cares they can be fixed even with little more help then easy sed commands Dec 06 18:20:39 and if nobody cares then we'll just drop them from feed :) Dec 06 18:21:12 zub, how do you feel on pushing all stuf we have now in gitorious to E svn? Dec 06 18:21:35 any comments on that? do you want to send something to me? Dec 06 18:24:38 JaMa, try rev 163 of emtooth2 please ;) Dec 06 18:25:01 ok when I'm back home.. bbl Dec 06 18:26:28 ok! :) Dec 06 18:33:18 pespin: no comments :-P Dec 06 18:40:36 zub, now the big question... how to push all changes from the git repo to svn using git-svn? :P Dec 06 18:42:54 pespin: git svn dcommit ? Dec 06 18:45:14 yeah it seems so. I'll do it later as I'll need to fix emtooth2 to work with newer eflvala too. I need to study a bit before though Dec 06 18:46:27 pespin: sorry, I'm intermittently n/a... :( Dec 06 18:46:37 np ;) Dec 06 18:47:50 heyho Dec 06 18:49:45 morphis: hey Dec 06 19:07:03 yo morphis Dec 06 19:07:17 morphis: mickey_ was in search of you :) Dec 06 19:09:29 morphis: moin, we have to talk about the Vala update, but i'm in a conference that starts right now Dec 06 19:29:59 mrmoku: http://build.shr-project.org/tests/site/ Dec 06 19:30:14 mrmoku: i think "about" page is done Dec 06 19:37:42 nice iste Dec 06 19:37:45 site, actually Dec 06 19:39:27 dos1: did you create the icons? Dec 06 19:39:55 mickey_: thanks :) Dec 06 19:40:45 angelox|laptop: yup, made them originally for SHR trac theme, which weren't used as we don't have direct access to trac Dec 06 19:40:47 angelox|laptop: they' Dec 06 19:41:00 +re based on oxygen icons (kde4) Dec 06 19:41:17 dos1: wow, cool thing :-D Dec 06 19:41:26 dos1: very cool :) Dec 06 19:41:48 * angelox|laptop would like to be good in either graphics, or web design :) Dec 06 19:42:24 angelox|laptop: i suck at graphics, i just happen to know how to use gimp :D Dec 06 19:43:01 so i can "remix" - do something based on something already made Dec 06 19:43:24 dos1: i know gimp too,but not so well ( actually, i prefer studying another programming languages than spend time trying to be creative) :) Dec 06 19:43:35 someone gave me an ARM ASM book, i'm reading it ;) Dec 06 19:43:45 :) Dec 06 19:57:31 hey guys! Dec 06 19:57:39 hey Slyon! Dec 06 20:01:01 JaMa, do you have any idea how /home/root/.local/share/applicaionts gets into the images? as the *.desktop files in there show 2 unavailable applications in the launcher (xterm, mplayer) Dec 06 20:03:17 Slyon, I guess it's ebcause of enlightenment Dec 06 20:04:08 yo Slyon Dec 06 20:04:15 hey mrmoku Dec 06 20:04:20 Slyon: dos1 is working on it :) Dec 06 20:04:26 http://build.shr-project.org/tests/site/ Dec 06 20:04:48 GNUtoo, can we somehow avoid it? Dec 06 20:05:09 Slyon, no idea Dec 06 20:05:43 mrmoku, dos1: wow! this look pretty good! something like this should be our main entry point. Dec 06 20:06:43 indeed Dec 06 20:17:44 mickey_: yeah, vala update ... Dec 06 20:18:12 mickey_: if I am already offline when you reading this lines Dec 06 20:18:41 mickey_: I did change most parts of FSO to be suitable for vala 0.14.0 and send my patches upstream Dec 06 20:19:00 mickey_: so I think we can get back to upstream vala with 0.14.2 Dec 06 20:20:33 i don't like some of the changes i see in the vala-014-support-branch Dec 06 20:20:49 mickey_: ok, like which one? Dec 06 20:20:54 e.g. so many introductions of ref and * Dec 06 20:21:05 like the revamped ppp stuff Dec 06 20:21:15 we need to talk about that change by change Dec 06 20:21:25 revamped ppp stuff? Dec 06 20:21:32 and i have to catch up with 6 months of vala changes to learn what has really changed Dec 06 20:21:38 ok Dec 06 20:21:42 you mean my changes? Dec 06 20:21:42 ya, something was done with the header file Dec 06 20:22:32 let me take a look at the branch commits Dec 06 20:22:34 you mean the vala-0.14-support branch of cornucopia? Dec 06 20:22:41 when yes, ignore it Dec 06 20:23:21 oh no Dec 06 20:23:31 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=commitdiff;h=2fb74f45c7d4dbe952e949a783ae3f733a273ec7 Dec 06 20:23:39 yes, the 014 support branch Dec 06 20:23:52 this one contains a lot of changes that i'd say "eeeks" Dec 06 20:24:06 e.g. -foo Dec 06 20:24:07 +*foo Dec 06 20:24:11 for the notifiers Dec 06 20:24:16 why was that necessary? Dec 06 20:24:33 and then notifier** on public void add notifier, that's really ugly Dec 06 20:24:55 yeah Dec 06 20:25:05 I am not fine with it too Dec 06 20:25:10 but I ran out of time now Dec 06 20:25:18 can you write me a mail so we can discuss their? Dec 06 20:25:41 hmm, that would be a long mail with "why do we need that" on several lines Dec 06 20:25:47 better to discuss it live IMO Dec 06 20:25:58 ok Dec 06 20:26:18 but let me catch up with the vala changes before talking first Dec 06 20:26:21 then we should do a conference call Dec 06 20:26:23 perhaps we had no choice Dec 06 20:26:26 ya Dec 06 20:26:30 in general vala 0.14 is more strict Dec 06 20:27:01 I have to go Dec 06 20:27:05 ok Dec 06 20:27:12 mickey_: I will write you a mail tomorrow when I have time Dec 06 20:27:13 bye Dec 06 20:27:18 ok, cu Dec 06 20:34:24 mickey_, hi, you're working on the vala migration right now? Dec 06 20:34:45 if so what's next? gps API revamping? Dec 06 20:35:08 if so you need to talk to nschle85 who want to add support for the n900 gps Dec 06 20:35:53 no plans at all, really. i just seen that many things broke with vala 0.14 and as i just had a talk about vala i figured it may be necessary to chime in. i'm nowhere near the position to have time to tackle complex things though Dec 06 20:35:58 not for a while at least Dec 06 20:36:10 ok Dec 06 20:36:29 that said, the new gps API is nice i think Dec 06 20:36:39 ah there is one? Dec 06 20:36:41 the high level stuff with region monitoring Dec 06 20:36:48 fsodtldt? Dec 06 20:36:52 ya, been there since early 2011 Dec 06 20:37:04 when i added the proof of concept client in zhone2 Dec 06 20:37:10 ok Dec 06 20:37:36 mickeyl: can we talk shortly about gps, how i planned to integrate ? Dec 06 20:38:48 i guess the best way is to write a plugin for fsotdld that talks to the modem (it's already multi client, right?) Dec 06 20:38:49 what should I work on right now? Dec 06 20:39:08 I guess so(muti-client) Dec 06 20:39:17 it depends what kind of software you want to support Dec 06 20:39:29 if you want to support gpsd, you need a plugin on gpsd layer Dec 06 20:39:36 fsotdld would already benefit Dec 06 20:39:48 much easier might be an fsogsmd plugin that emits the coordinates Dec 06 20:39:58 and fsotdld just picking them up and handing them to the upper layer Dec 06 20:40:21 mickeyl: i talked to PaulFertser and he suggest: write a small service which talks to the modem, and on other side to gpsd, via tcp Dec 06 20:40:53 mickeyl: gpsd has already a hook, when a client connects, the service will be started / stopped Dec 06 20:41:05 ya, you can do that, if you want to support gpsd Dec 06 20:41:14 add the necessary stuff to libgisi Dec 06 20:41:22 and then write a daemon using libgisi forwarding to gpsd Dec 06 20:41:26 should be relatively simple Dec 06 20:41:47 mickeyl: yes for you... i have to understand libgisi and the modem :-) Dec 06 20:41:53 and learn vala Dec 06 20:42:45 that's a good reason for it, isn'it it? ;) Dec 06 20:42:49 good idea: I'll build for n900 and try to fix some stuff Dec 06 20:42:56 indeed Dec 06 20:43:17 being 6 months out of the loop i have not the slightest idea about the status of the FSO hardware adaption Dec 06 20:43:33 mickey_, basically we switched to shr-core Dec 06 20:43:46 that created many bugs and issues Dec 06 20:44:00 some machines like htcdream are not buildable Dec 06 20:44:04 *still not Dec 06 20:44:17 but gta02 is in a nearly good state now Dec 06 20:44:47 we also have a new machine: crespo aka nexus S Dec 06 20:45:06 aka herring Dec 06 20:45:12 mickeyl: i have a short question , using this http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=libgisi.git;a=summary is correct ? Dec 06 20:45:38 we also lost a lot of software that were in the feeds during the transition Dec 06 20:45:39 nschle85: yep, that's it Dec 06 20:45:43 hmm 6 months old Dec 06 20:45:51 i guess noone bothered to continue that after i "left" ;) Dec 06 20:46:05 and what is this for http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=libisi.git;a=summary ? Dec 06 20:46:22 mickey_, indeed n900 is a very good device and no one continue for it Dec 06 20:46:24 that's an older version with much less functionality that had been written in C Dec 06 20:46:52 GNUtoo: i have seen that ofono isi library is in further development Dec 06 20:47:03 ah? Dec 06 20:47:22 but we can't use ofono Dec 06 20:47:23 mickeyl: is there a plan to update from there Dec 06 20:47:25 ? Dec 06 20:47:38 nschle85, someone must work on n900 Dec 06 20:47:44 GNUtoo: sorry the question was for mickeyl :-) Dec 06 20:47:47 first fix call sound quality Dec 06 20:48:00 and also alsa states(I can try to do that) Dec 06 20:48:09 GNUtoo: if you want to fix something: i cannot login via ping Dec 06 20:48:12 pin Dec 06 20:48:25 I'll rather fix alsa states Dec 06 20:48:28 GNUtoo: the power button does not react Dec 06 20:48:30 nschle85: i have no plans at all atm., but if ofono's isi has any benefits over the version we use in libgisi, then yes, we can update Dec 06 20:48:39 I want telephony Dec 06 20:48:47 we used ofono's isi in libgisi without any changes, iirc Dec 06 20:48:55 for the purpose of being able to update when necessary Dec 06 20:49:14 nice!!! Dec 06 20:50:42 anyways, it looks like gta04 might gain some traction Dec 06 20:50:51 and i think we should support it as good as possible Dec 06 20:51:03 since it's the only open solution that's faster than the 02 Dec 06 20:51:10 at least as far as i know Dec 06 20:51:15 yes indeed Dec 06 20:51:27 mickeyl: yes, but the first boards are very expensive Dec 06 20:51:32 and surprise surprise.... it seem that the gta04 has 32bit framebuffer Dec 06 20:51:54 so we can have cards-like interface in efle Dec 06 20:52:02 *elfe Dec 06 20:52:02 cool Dec 06 20:52:08 * dos1 may be able to get gta04, maybe :) Dec 06 20:52:17 * GNUtoo will have a gta04 Dec 06 20:52:25 * angelox|laptop no lol Dec 06 20:52:29 but I don't know when it'll arrive Dec 06 20:52:51 anyway, it's a big progress from "no i won't get it, what a pity :(" Dec 06 20:52:53 ;) Dec 06 20:53:03 mickey_, but note that the gta04 is not as good as the 02 for freedom Dec 06 20:53:17 :) Dec 06 20:53:18 gta02 has the following advantages: Dec 06 20:53:33 * iota-rita-calypso modem supported by osmocombb Dec 06 20:53:44 * no need to load a non-free wifi firmware Dec 06 20:53:59 but apart that the gta04 is really really good freedom wise Dec 06 20:54:04 you even have a free bootloader Dec 06 20:54:35 I mean it is better than any of the current android or GNU/Linux phones out there Dec 06 20:55:23 hm, but gta04 is a bit expensive, isn't it? Dec 06 20:55:51 anarsoul: first gta02 where also expensive Dec 06 20:56:21 anarsoul: and are still expensive, compared to commercial products Dec 06 20:57:57 GNUtoo: can you support please ? i cannot login via PIN Dec 06 20:58:04 2011.12.06 19:58:38.813201 [phonefsod] WARNING: failed to connect to /org/freesmartphone/Usage: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freesmartphone.ousaged: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: Failed to execute program /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper: Success Dec 06 20:58:26 yes, they are expensive Dec 06 20:58:34 but that's the cost of small production runs Dec 06 20:58:45 we can't do anything about it but try to make more people interested :) Dec 06 20:58:46 nschle85, what's that? Dec 06 20:58:54 nschle85: if it costs US$ 2000 in EU, then they will cost US$ 3700 +/- in Brazil :( Dec 06 20:58:56 nschle85, ahh Dec 06 20:59:06 nschle85, that's because you have a dbus problem Dec 06 20:59:20 GNUtoo: restart dbus daemon ? Dec 06 20:59:26 nschle85, no Dec 06 20:59:28 nschle85, reinstall it Dec 06 20:59:36 the permissions on it are wrong Dec 06 20:59:45 nschle85, how did you exrtact your rootfs? Dec 06 20:59:47 tar xvjpf? Dec 06 20:59:50 if so that's wrong Dec 06 20:59:56 add --numeric-owner Dec 06 21:00:00 to it Dec 06 21:00:04 no extract update Dec 06 21:01:25 but extraction is done for initial install like this: ssh $SSHDEST 'tar -C /sdcard -xvzf /sdcard/full-nokia900.tar.gz;\ Dec 06 21:01:55 ssh? Dec 06 21:02:06 i install remote on n900 with running maemo Dec 06 21:02:12 ok Dec 06 21:02:17 GNUtoo: ill pastebin Dec 06 21:02:49 nschle85, ls -l /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper Dec 06 21:02:56 because I've a quick fix Dec 06 21:03:14 http://pastebin.com/03jEW7Wm Dec 06 21:04:04 -rwsr-xr-- 1 root 998 184808 Nov 30 01:30 /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper Dec 06 21:05:18 see the 998 Dec 06 21:05:24 change that to messagebus Dec 06 21:05:29 and re-chmod +s Dec 06 21:05:34 and reboot Dec 06 21:05:41 but you'd better reinstall Dec 06 21:06:15 add --numeric-owner to tar command Dec 06 21:13:07 nschle85, add it at the end tough Dec 06 21:13:19 nschle85, like in the openmoko install page Dec 06 21:14:01 how much does gta04 currently costs? Dec 06 21:14:22 GNUtoo: thank you Dec 06 21:14:40 angelox|laptop, it depends on the variant Dec 06 21:15:13 * angelox|laptop didn't know there were variants Dec 06 21:16:54 and them vary in what specs? Dec 06 21:17:22 angelox|laptop, since you don't have a gta01/gta02 you need a case Dec 06 21:17:28 that will cost you more Dec 06 21:18:02 there are some options + the choice to get it with or without a case Dec 06 21:18:19 if you get it without a case you're supposed to sacrifice a gta01/gta02 to make the case Dec 06 21:18:58 hmm Dec 06 21:19:06 they do not sell only cases? Dec 06 21:20:45 what do you mean? Dec 06 21:21:55 angelox|laptop, cases are rare, as a freerunner is needed to make a case. but at OHSW.de we prototyped a new, 3d-printable case, which will probably become available Dec 06 21:22:28 Slyon, wow!!!! Dec 06 21:22:32 GNUtoo: the task switch button does not appear, is that known ? Dec 06 21:22:43 nschle85, yes it's known Dec 06 21:22:47 someone must fix it Dec 06 21:22:48 pespin: still here? Dec 06 21:22:53 in the meantime do: Dec 06 21:22:57 A Dec 06 21:23:02 oops Dec 06 21:23:05 DISPLAY=:0 shr_elm_softkey & Dec 06 21:23:18 Slyon: Cool,but i do not have an 3D printer :) Dec 06 21:23:47 also i'd need to buy an LCD,battery... Dec 06 21:24:46 angelox|laptop, yep. but if it is 3d-printable it can be buyed at shapeways for some 30€. Dec 06 21:24:47 Slyon, are there details on that? Dec 06 21:25:26 shr_elm_softkey: symbol lookup error: shr_elm_softkey: undefined symbol: elm_table_homogenous_set Dec 06 21:25:28 cool Dec 06 21:25:32 * angelox|laptop will bbvs Dec 06 21:25:42 GNUtoo, well. it was a latenight prototype at the bar. here are the results: http://www.chonyota.net/gta04/GTA02CASE.pdf Dec 06 21:26:02 GNUtoo: i think i have to update some stuff :-) Dec 06 21:26:13 GNutoo, christoph just reworked his openmokast case extension ( which is 3d-printed) Dec 06 21:27:13 wow Dec 06 21:27:26 openmokast really produced something other than software? Dec 06 21:28:16 yeah they produced CAD files for a case extension: http://openmokast.org/pictures.html Dec 06 21:29:40 pespin: please apply this http://paste.pocoo.org/show/517265/ to fix your carma and SHR build.. Dec 06 21:30:02 JaMa: so what images should be included in "download wizard"? Dec 06 21:30:08 g'night, see you soon Dec 06 21:30:42 JaMa: shr-core, shr-core-staging, shr-unstable (?), anything else? Dec 06 21:31:12 gn8 mickeyl Dec 06 21:31:20 I'm not sure about shr-unstable :) Dec 06 21:31:23 mickeyl: godd night Dec 06 21:31:31 as some say the latest are broken.. Dec 06 21:32:15 JaMa, i talked to a shr-unstable user this weekend. he used the latest shr-unstable as daily phone. he just complained about a broken clawsmail package Dec 06 21:32:16 dos1, shr-core I guess Dec 06 21:32:46 GNUtoo: yup, but the thing is that you'll be able to select an image type which you're interested to Dec 06 21:32:49 shr-core works fine for me Dec 06 21:32:57 ok Dec 06 21:33:05 if shr-unstable is broken now and it won't get any update, then there's no point in including it Dec 06 21:33:53 I haven't tried latest shr-u and I don't plan to.. but if someone sends patch to make it usable I'll apply in OE-classic and build one more Dec 06 21:33:56 but would http://build.shr-project.org/shr-core-staging/latest/ better ? Dec 06 21:34:17 no latest needs to be optional Dec 06 21:34:27 JaMa: ok Dec 06 21:34:37 not something you get by default if you're looking for latest but usable image Dec 06 21:35:30 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r734cc33fb1b2 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/3rdparty/ (emtooth2/add.evas.ecore.patch emtooth2_svn.bb): emtooth2: bump SRCREV for elm API fix and add patch for DSO fix Dec 06 21:36:56 JaMa: where are good tested images moved to ? Dec 06 21:37:05 shr-core Dec 06 21:37:47 ok then shr-core is fine Dec 06 21:37:50 sofar only 001 was Dec 06 21:38:05 because there is not enough testers reporting to make it usefull :/ Dec 06 21:38:46 if I'm the only one testing it then I can rsync to public feeds directly as I was doing before.. :/ Dec 06 21:40:48 JaMa, sorry I was too busy theses days Dec 06 21:40:56 JaMa, what do you want me to test? Dec 06 21:41:07 JaMa: i am not using shr for daytime use, so my focus is not on telephony, at the moment, but you must the people give the time to adapt their environment (multiboot etc..) Dec 06 21:41:07 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r4678b2f7ff38 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/3rdparty/emtooth2/add.evas.ecore.patch: emtooth2: fix patch Dec 06 21:41:27 GNUtoo: staging/latest Dec 06 21:41:27 * GNUtoo tought 1 tester was enough because I had the same results than another tester Dec 06 21:41:29 ok Dec 06 21:42:00 JaMa: would it be trouble to you to make some file in every shr-core-staging/* directory with just numer of image? Dec 06 21:42:22 for instance shr-core-staging/003/id with content "003"? Dec 06 21:42:22 dos1: ? Dec 06 21:42:37 dos1: no, but it's written in info already Dec 06 21:42:53 so i can just download it with JS without parsing huge files Dec 06 21:43:36 ok, I'll add info.id ok? Dec 06 21:44:03 JaMa: ok Dec 06 21:44:07 thanks :) Dec 06 21:45:33 this way shr-core-staging/latest/info.id will contain highest number and i'll be able to display some widget to select older image Dec 06 21:45:39 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r69b67d643913 10/OE/bin/shr_core_staging_new.sh: staging scripts: add info.id Dec 06 21:46:40 dos1: dos1 are you using jquery ? Dec 06 21:46:47 nschle85: yup Dec 06 21:47:35 getting the url looks like this: var fullJsUrl= $('script[src$=serveAd.js]').attr('src'); Dec 06 21:48:24 dos1: subdomain.example.com/serveAd.js Dec 06 21:49:28 nschle85: yup, but it's something different Dec 06 21:49:34 ok Dec 06 21:49:49 nschle85: page will be served on http://build.shr-project.org/ Dec 06 21:50:21 nschle85: and i want to download /shr-core-staging/latest/info.id with ajax in order to display number of latest image Dec 06 21:50:53 dos1: which program do you use to make these pages? Dec 06 21:50:54 dos1: ups now i understand Dec 06 21:51:31 angelox|laptop: kate and nano :D Dec 06 21:52:02 dos1: wow, am i the only one that needs an IDE to code? :( Dec 06 21:52:15 dos1: as i can see info.id exists :-) Dec 06 21:52:34 does emacs count as an IDE? Dec 06 21:52:38 angelox|laptop: i'm using Qt Creator when writing in C++/Qt Dec 06 21:52:49 because I use vim+emacs Dec 06 21:52:54 angelox|laptop: but that's the only ide i use Dec 06 21:53:00 nschle85: now it exists, yes :) Dec 06 21:53:11 thanks to Dec 06 21:53:13 [22:41] SHR: Martin.Jansa shr-chroot * r69b67d643913 /OE/bin/shr_core_staging_new.sh: staging scripts: add info.id Dec 06 21:53:33 dos1: i use it too when C++/Qt, but when i'm doing my html learning,i use some html tools :D Dec 06 21:53:51 GNUtoo, wow! i just tried the elfe "cards" view on my gta04. that's nice! Dec 06 21:54:01 wow so it works Dec 06 21:54:06 yep it does Dec 06 21:54:15 GNUtoo: i count an IDE when it autocompletes stuff for you,show you your created classes, members of your function..etc...does emacs do that? Dec 06 21:54:27 Slyon, can you do a video if you have the time to do it? Dec 06 21:54:46 angelox|laptop, it can with CDE but I don't use CDE Dec 06 21:54:47 angelox|laptop: well, some autocomplete is also in kate Dec 06 21:54:59 angelox|laptop: but it only suggests already used methods Dec 06 21:55:02 dos1: no that script change is for newer.. but old were fixed by anonymous for cycle :) Dec 06 21:55:33 JaMa: so s/commit/JaMa/ and it will be more general :D Dec 06 21:55:35 dos1: yes, i know,but for example in Qt, QtCreator shows all methods from each instance of object you have created Dec 06 21:55:38 GNUtoo, yes will do Dec 06 21:55:40 GNUtoo: what is CDE? Dec 06 21:55:54 angelox|laptop, an ide-like thing for emacs Dec 06 21:56:15 like an plugin? Dec 06 21:56:28 yes but it's a plugin that is integrated in emacs Dec 06 21:56:43 I mean when you aptitude install emacs you get it too Dec 06 21:56:54 bbl Dec 06 21:56:55 but you have to activate it in .emacs Dec 06 21:57:03 ah understood Dec 06 21:57:08 maybe i'm going to try it Dec 06 21:57:09 i've never seen anybody actually use it though :/ Dec 06 21:57:12 * angelox|laptop bbl Dec 06 21:57:34 * GNUtoo should stop using ctrl+c and ctrl+v in emacs btw Dec 06 21:57:43 and use yank and paste normal bindings instead Dec 06 21:58:06 I guess normal depends on context too :) Dec 06 21:58:52 indeed sorry Dec 06 21:59:42 angelox|laptop: i never tried but what about this ? http://netbeans.org/kb/docs/web/js-toolkits-jquery.html Dec 06 22:00:55 gn8 guys! Dec 06 22:01:00 I'm certainly planning to study eclipse more in the future, it does seem to have a lot of useful features Dec 06 22:01:40 lindi-: i am using eclipse every day for java dev Dec 06 22:02:12 lindi-, like OSGI? Dec 06 22:02:45 GNUtoo: osgi? Dec 06 22:03:08 ah, some java framework Dec 06 22:03:08 yes that's what eclipse uses for its plugins Dec 06 22:03:16 haven't studied Dec 06 22:03:18 yes but it's a standard Dec 06 22:03:29 it's used by buglabs too for instance Dec 06 22:03:40 I only used it with some c++ programs where etags simply did not cut it Dec 06 22:04:58 lindi-: i tried the CDT plugin with Devkit ARM and it worked for me. Dec 06 22:06:04 nschle85: seems to be cool Dec 06 22:06:05 I've some difficulties with microsd again, I'll hope that I can test that staging image Dec 06 22:07:00 kernel pannic Dec 06 22:07:03 cannot find vfs Dec 06 22:07:04 grrr Dec 06 22:07:14 I'll branch the debug board Dec 06 22:07:20 *wire Dec 06 22:13:48 hmmm detected size is wrong Dec 06 22:13:54 it says 512M Dec 06 22:15:30 GNUtoo: what says? Dec 06 22:15:52 QI Dec 06 22:15:57 anyway I'll change microsd Dec 06 22:16:03 I'll take the 512M one Dec 06 22:16:24 GNUtoo: I think both u-boot and qi report quite bogus size always Dec 06 22:16:29 ok Dec 06 23:07:15 http://build.shr-project.org/tests/site/ Dec 06 23:07:26 first step of download wizard done :D Dec 06 23:07:44 (but it's always first step in infinite loop for now ;)) Dec 06 23:07:45 wow nice Dec 06 23:08:32 what lib did you use for the images thing? Dec 06 23:09:04 GNUtoo: images thing? Dec 06 23:09:39 yes the annimation in the images(shr-core,shr-unstable,shr-testing) Dec 06 23:10:03 ouch, this kind of images :D Dec 06 23:10:06 it's jQuery Dec 06 23:10:23 ok Dec 06 23:10:25 and simple CSS transitions Dec 06 23:10:35 ok Dec 06 23:10:42 (so IE is not supported :D) Dec 06 23:10:42 how do you do the transitions? Dec 06 23:10:51 GNUtoo: :hover pseudoclass in CSS Dec 06 23:11:01 plus "transition: ;" Dec 06 23:11:05 ok Dec 06 23:11:14 thanks a lot Dec 06 23:11:15 and also jQuery Dec 06 23:11:32 for animation after clicking some list item Dec 06 23:11:37 jQuery is not only about queries? Dec 06 23:11:50 hohoho, it's a LOT more than that :D Dec 06 23:11:55 ah ok Dec 06 23:12:11 I tought it was just for ajax serialization of json Dec 06 23:12:11 i started to use it recently Dec 06 23:12:13 ok Dec 06 23:12:19 and it's really great :) Dec 06 23:12:23 ok Dec 06 23:12:34 it won't work in IE? Dec 06 23:12:49 not a problem I guess Dec 06 23:13:07 previously i was all like "oh i don't need those nasty libraries, i can do all cool things by myself" Dec 06 23:13:25 but now, when i tried it, i can see difference... Dec 06 23:13:26 dos1, btw is your n900 theme in shr-feeds? Dec 06 23:13:36 GNUtoo: it should be Dec 06 23:13:39 ok Dec 06 23:13:42 how is it called? Dec 06 23:13:46 angelox|laptop: IE doesn't support CSS3 :) Dec 06 23:13:46 won't work in IE -> That's cool :P Dec 06 23:13:56 GNUtoo: sowka Dec 06 23:14:09 ok thanks a lot Dec 06 23:14:11 dos1: that is a good thing i guess :) Dec 06 23:15:59 no one that i know uses IE Dec 06 23:18:56 dos1, are you sure it's in shr-core? Dec 06 23:19:12 GNUtoo: sorry, i'm not sure at all :) Dec 06 23:19:30 GNUtoo: for sure it is in shr-themes git repo Dec 06 23:19:31 because I did a find -iname *sowka* in the dir where there is all git repos that contain the recipes Dec 06 23:19:33 ok Dec 06 23:19:39 ahh ok Dec 06 23:19:41 shr-themes Dec 06 23:19:48 GNUtoo: but I *think* there should be recipe for it Dec 06 23:19:52 and i may be wrong Dec 06 23:19:52 ok Dec 06 23:20:36 no recipe for it Dec 06 23:20:58 there is only gry,neo,newbie,sizteen Dec 06 23:21:05 *six Dec 06 23:21:20 and o2 Dec 06 23:21:45 meta-smartphone/meta-shr/recipes-shr/shr/ Dec 06 23:23:25 GNUtoo: i guess you could just copy it from niebiee and do s/niebiee/sowka/ Dec 06 23:23:32 ok Dec 06 23:23:46 I'm building currently so I'll do that later if I remember Dec 06 23:24:11 or maybe you could do it Dec 06 23:24:22 I don't know which part of the theme are converted etc... Dec 06 23:25:44 dos1: i already clicked to download eight shr-core and ten shr-unstable (playing with buttons) :) Dec 06 23:26:20 GNUtoo: yup, s/niebiee/sowka/ (and adjusting SRCREV maybe) should perfectly work Dec 06 23:26:42 dos1, yes but there is 5 niebiee recipes Dec 06 23:26:52 GNUtoo: ach, that's what you meant Dec 06 23:27:05 you converted shr-theme, shr-splash-theme, phoneui-theme elementary-theme and e-wm-theme? Dec 06 23:27:18 GNUtoo: only e-wm, elementary and phoneui Dec 06 23:27:22 ok Dec 06 23:27:39 could you do it, because I'm building and I will forget after Dec 06 23:27:48 else remind me to do it Dec 06 23:28:02 ok Dec 06 23:28:39 btw do the neo icons work now? Dec 06 23:28:50 last time I checked it failed to work and there were normal icons Dec 06 23:51:26 SHR: 03dos 07shr-themes * rd488ccabe2a2 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): license files for sowka themes Dec 06 23:52:16 SHR: 03dos 07meta-smartphone * r02b2cae3a9ea 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/shr/ (3 files): Add recipes for sowka themes Dec 06 23:53:03 i hope i didn't break anything... ;x Dec 06 23:53:11 gnight Dec 06 23:53:16 good night dos1 Dec 06 23:54:15 good night all **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Dec 07 02:59:57 2011