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Mar 20 12:49:05 <ccxCZ> hi guys, I'm looking forward flashing SHR on my G1/dream
Mar 20 12:49:30 <ccxCZ> but first I would like to ask, how is it with system suspend / powermanagement?
Mar 20 12:50:52 <ccxCZ> I want to use it primarily as a notebook/tasklist, without any radio stuff. I'd like to make it suspend to ram or something similar when I don't use it, which should consume minimal power
Mar 20 14:05:00 <dos1> http://mylittlewiki.org/w/images/c/cf/Blind-golden-delicious.jpg
Mar 20 14:05:10 <dos1> pony named Golden Delicious
Mar 20 14:05:19 <dos1> must-have figurine for GTA04 owners :D
Mar 20 14:16:10 <jake42> ccxCZ: ask GNUtoo when he's here, he should be able to tell you
Mar 20 14:16:24 <ccxCZ> kthnx
Mar 20 14:17:26 <ccxCZ> the thing is I don't want my notepad run out of battery after 2h of usage :-) the android irks me, but I like the hw keyboard
Mar 20 14:22:16 <jake42> you will probably need to build your own shr image for your dream if you want an uptodate image
Mar 20 14:25:14 <ccxCZ> what toolchain / buildsystem you use? something from openembedded I assume
Mar 20 14:25:26 <jake42> according to http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/HardwareComparison suspend/resume once worked
Mar 20 14:26:47 <jake42> here are some instructions http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR
Mar 20 14:33:00 <ccxCZ> hmm cloning now
Mar 20 14:33:48 <jake42> did you choose makefile or manual?
Mar 20 14:35:47 <ccxCZ> copypasted the script at the start of the page
Mar 20 14:36:20 <ccxCZ> I can't chroot into the system obviously, since I'm on amd64
Mar 20 14:39:12 <ccxCZ> hrm, I don't get why bitbake forked portage, instead of improving it
Mar 20 14:43:40 <ccxCZ> PARALLEL_MAKE = "-j 4" seems wrong, sure about the space there?
Mar 20 14:44:26 <ccxCZ> what are the possibilities for MACHINE=?
Mar 20 14:46:19 <ccxCZ> hrm ERROR: Unable to parse conf/bitbake.conf: ParseError at /home/ccx/development/others/shr/shr-core/meta-smartphone/meta-htc/conf/machine/htcdream.conf:5: Could not include required file conf/machine/include/tune-arm1136j-s.inc
Mar 20 14:48:39 <jake42> the space doesn't matter afaik
Mar 20 14:49:28 <jake42> did you set MACHINE to htcdream?
Mar 20 14:50:08 <ccxCZ> if it calls gnu make -j 4 would mean unlimited jobs, whereas -j4 would mean up to four jobs
Mar 20 14:50:10 <ccxCZ> yup
Mar 20 14:50:55 <jake42> don't know it thats on purpose
Mar 20 14:51:11 <jake42> s/it/if/
Mar 20 14:51:11 <apt> jake42 meant: don't know if thats on purpose
Mar 20 14:52:32 <ccxCZ> I can live without parallel builds for now
Mar 20 14:52:41 * ccxCZ goes to comment the errorneous include
Mar 20 14:53:34 <jake42> I can't be of much help
Mar 20 14:54:04 <jake42> building an image takes a long time as you can imagine
Mar 20 14:54:28 <ccxCZ> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/568528/
Mar 20 14:55:00 <ccxCZ> well, so far I didn't have luck of building even working toolchain
Mar 20 14:55:04 <jake42> and it most likely will fail afew times until one fixes all the occuring bus
Mar 20 14:55:08 <jake42> bug
Mar 20 14:55:09 <jake42> s
Mar 20 14:56:04 <jake42> so not a good idea do comment the included file
Mar 20 14:56:23 <ccxCZ> well, it does not exist in the checkout
Mar 20 14:56:33 <ccxCZ> maybe will need digging in git history
Mar 20 14:57:01 <ccxCZ> anyway, I have some other work now, laters
Mar 20 14:57:05 <jake42> you will need to get it from old oe
Mar 20 14:57:11 <jake42> cu
Mar 20 16:58:45 <GNUtoo> Alex[sp3dev], hi
Mar 20 17:03:16 <Alex[sp3dev]> GNUtoo: hi
Mar 20 17:04:01 <GNUtoo> Alex[sp3dev], do you have a kernel with working sound compiled for galaxy S II, if so could you do alsactl -f dump store and pastebin me the dump
Mar 20 17:04:12 <ccxCZ> GNUtoo: ohai
Mar 20 17:04:17 <GNUtoo> hi
Mar 20 17:04:27 <ccxCZ> I was directed at you wrt SHR on G1
Mar 20 17:04:33 <GNUtoo> yes
Mar 20 17:04:43 <GNUtoo> I was involved in the SHR port to the htcdream
Mar 20 17:05:23 <ccxCZ> other than the wifi, how good is the powermanagement there? can I do suspend to ram or similar?
Mar 20 17:05:35 <GNUtoo> we could in the past
Mar 20 17:05:49 <GNUtoo> but sms didn't wake up the phone
Mar 20 17:05:53 <ccxCZ> good
Mar 20 17:05:59 <GNUtoo> it's probably very easy to fix
Mar 20 17:06:10 <ccxCZ> I intend to use it only as a pocket notebook, so I'm not interested in any GSM stuff
Mar 20 17:06:16 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 20 17:06:37 <ccxCZ> the less the better, looking for reasonable unix system to replace the droid
Mar 20 17:06:44 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 20 17:07:03 <GNUtoo> so basically it was abandoned before merging it in shr-core
Mar 20 17:07:17 <GNUtoo> so you'll have to talk to vquicksilver
Mar 20 17:07:35 <ccxCZ> I tried building from source, but failed on some nonexistant include file
Mar 20 17:07:37 <GNUtoo> he has did some work for the geeskphone one
Mar 20 17:07:57 <GNUtoo> for including that exact file
Mar 20 17:08:15 <GNUtoo> you need to add an armv6-novfp file
Mar 20 17:08:20 <ccxCZ> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/568615/
Mar 20 17:08:28 <GNUtoo> else look on openembedded-core mailing list
Mar 20 17:08:40 <GNUtoo> (if you can't find vquicksilver on IRC)
Mar 20 17:08:53 <ccxCZ> this channel?
Mar 20 17:09:20 <GNUtoo> yes
Mar 20 17:09:24 <GNUtoo> or #replicant too
Mar 20 17:09:33 <GNUtoo> he's not often online
Mar 20 17:09:38 <GNUtoo> so I'll look for his patch
Mar 20 17:09:40 <GNUtoo> in my archives
Mar 20 17:09:46 <ccxCZ> kthnx
Mar 20 17:10:33 <GNUtoo> ccxCZ, btw you could try an old shr-unstable
Mar 20 17:10:41 <GNUtoo> to see how good alsa is
Mar 20 17:10:55 <ccxCZ> there is working build I gather
Mar 20 17:11:00 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 20 17:11:10 <ccxCZ> not sure how recent
Mar 20 17:11:53 <ccxCZ> I did not try to flash the device yet, I assume there is a way to make it boot from external memory, but I don't know my way around fastboot
Mar 20 17:12:28 <ccxCZ> bought it from a friend, w/ rooted froyo
Mar 20 17:12:32 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 20 17:12:40 <GNUtoo> basically for booting you have 3 options
Mar 20 17:12:46 <GNUtoo> you need to put the rootfs on microsd
Mar 20 17:12:57 <GNUtoo> but then you can load the .fastboot image without flashing
Mar 20 17:13:00 <GNUtoo> or flash to boot
Mar 20 17:13:04 <GNUtoo> or flash to recovery
Mar 20 17:13:14 <GNUtoo> so you can dual-boot this way
Mar 20 17:13:21 <GNUtoo> for instance you can flash android kernel to boot
Mar 20 17:13:26 <GNUtoo> and SHR kernel to recovery
Mar 20 17:14:06 <ccxCZ> I'd start with sdcard if possible
Mar 20 17:14:14 <ccxCZ> I already have debian chroot there
Mar 20 17:17:04 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 20 17:17:18 <GNUtoo> follow the installation procedure from the wiki
Mar 20 17:18:13 <GNUtoo> note that you cannot load the kernel from sdcard yet
Mar 20 17:18:26 <GNUtoo> you have to flash it to boot, recovery or fastboot it
Mar 20 17:20:35 <ccxCZ> and fastboot supports loading it from sdcard, right?
Mar 20 17:20:39 <GNUtoo> no
Mar 20 17:20:54 <GNUtoo> basically it's very easy
Mar 20 17:21:11 <GNUtoo> you download the .fastboot image from shr build host
Mar 20 17:21:16 <GNUtoo> then you do:
Mar 20 17:21:44 <GNUtoo> ./fastboot boot zImage.fastboot #to load from your laptop in the phone memory
Mar 20 17:21:45 <GNUtoo> or
Mar 20 17:22:04 <GNUtoo> ./fastboot flash boot zImage.fastboot #to flash in the boot partition
Mar 20 17:22:09 <GNUtoo> or:
Mar 20 17:22:21 <GNUtoo> ./fastboot flash recovery zImage.fastboot #to flash in the recovery partition
Mar 20 17:22:23 <ccxCZ> where do I get fastboot executable?
Mar 20 17:22:33 <GNUtoo> there are 2 options if you want a free one
Mar 20 17:22:51 <GNUtoo> from fso uttilities git and you build it yourself
Mar 20 17:23:01 <GNUtoo> it's autotoolized and fast to build
Mar 20 17:23:10 <ccxCZ> preferably something that does not involve java
Mar 20 17:23:12 <GNUtoo> or you get a binary from replicant project
Mar 20 17:23:13 <ccxCZ> ok thanks
Mar 20 17:23:17 <GNUtoo> none involve java
Mar 20 17:23:22 <GNUtoo> it's programmed in C
Mar 20 17:23:24 <ccxCZ> replicant is?
Mar 20 17:23:34 <GNUtoo> a project to get a free android
Mar 20 17:23:38 <GNUtoo> it supports the dream too
Mar 20 17:23:50 <GNUtoo> but unlike SHR it is android
Mar 20 17:24:00 <GNUtoo> only that the non-free libraries were replaced
Mar 20 17:24:07 <ccxCZ> I see
Mar 20 17:24:25 <GNUtoo> market was replaced too
Mar 20 17:25:15 <ccxCZ> would SHR userland work with android kernel?
Mar 20 17:25:42 <GNUtoo> no
Mar 20 17:25:51 <GNUtoo> it need a modified android kernel
Mar 20 17:26:02 <GNUtoo> the one from SHR is modified to be more standard
Mar 20 17:26:39 <ccxCZ> ok
Mar 20 17:28:41 <GNUtoo> ccxCZ, basically the procedure is explained in SHR wiki
Mar 20 17:28:54 <GNUtoo> and read the warning about the microsd card reader
Mar 20 17:29:17 <GNUtoo> (you need a reader, don't format the card in the recovery of android from your laptop)
Mar 20 17:29:27 <Alex[sp3dev]> GNUtoo: sorry, I have not replied earlier. doing homework ;). Yesterday I have compiled samsung's ICS kernel (3.0) with fb console, ethernet gadget and without androidisms. it boots, but sound is not working. mplayer is stuck at 0 percent. i think it needs some ioctl to activate playback, have not looked yet
Mar 20 17:29:56 <test_> hi, im trying to build an shr image but webkit-efl_svn.bb failed. Someone know  this one?
Mar 20 17:30:01 <GNUtoo> Alex[sp3dev], ah ouch, I've until the end of the week to decide for the galaxy SII
Mar 20 17:30:08 <GNUtoo> and I think I'll refuse
Mar 20 17:30:25 <GNUtoo> test_, which device?
Mar 20 17:30:58 <GNUtoo> test_, because it failed for me too on armv4t, I didn't have the time yet to look into it
Mar 20 17:31:01 <test_> palmpre
Mar 20 17:31:04 <GNUtoo> ah ok
Mar 20 17:31:07 <GNUtoo> so armv7
Mar 20 17:31:10 <GNUtoo> let me look again
Mar 20 17:31:12 <ccxCZ> ok, gtg now, thanks
Mar 20 17:31:13 <GNUtoo> maybe cleansstate it
Mar 20 17:31:27 <GNUtoo> ccxCZ, ok, I'm often in this channel
Mar 20 17:31:38 <test_> ok, so im not alone :)
Mar 20 17:31:49 <GNUtoo> armv7 worked for me
Mar 20 17:31:54 <GNUtoo> and the palmpre is armv7
Mar 20 17:32:02 <GNUtoo> so try to update your sources
Mar 20 17:32:05 <GNUtoo> and cleansstate it
Mar 20 17:32:11 <GNUtoo> and re-bitbake an image
Mar 20 17:32:23 <GNUtoo> if it still fails try to talk to JaMa
Mar 20 17:32:27 <GNUtoo> or me
Mar 20 17:32:37 <GNUtoo> and give the full log
Mar 20 17:32:39 <test_> ok thank you very much
Mar 20 17:34:49 <GNUtoo> Alex[sp3dev], did you try in android with a chroot?
Mar 20 17:35:05 <GNUtoo> and try also aplay
Mar 20 17:35:13 <GNUtoo> and/or android uttilities
Mar 20 17:39:06 <Alex[sp3dev]> GarthPS: in android chroot sound works when android is playing music, otherwise - same as native
Mar 20 17:39:09 <Alex[sp3dev]> oops
Mar 20 17:39:23 <Alex[sp3dev]> i meant GNUtoo of course ;)
Mar 20 17:42:40 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 20 17:45:14 <Alex[sp3dev]> GNUtoo: I will port all hw support to linaro 3.3 tree and rewrite ioctl interfaces to be more standard but you know I'm busy this week. One annoying thing is that suspend and cpufreq freeze in linaro 3.3
Mar 20 17:45:57 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 20 17:46:11 <GNUtoo> is there serial for GS2
Mar 20 17:46:23 <Alex[sp3dev]> GNUtoo: yes
Mar 20 17:46:31 <GNUtoo> ok nice
Mar 20 17:46:39 <GNUtoo> it's trough the usb port with some resistors?
Mar 20 17:46:47 <Alex[sp3dev]> GNUtoo: yes
Mar 20 17:46:56 <GNUtoo> ok nice
Mar 20 17:47:03 <GNUtoo> so we should have kgdb
Mar 20 17:47:12 <GNUtoo> (there is a patch for that)
Mar 20 17:47:22 <GNUtoo> for the putchar and getchar 
Mar 20 17:47:26 <Alex[sp3dev]> might be nice
Mar 20 17:47:41 <GNUtoo> do you want poll putchar and polll getchar?
Mar 20 17:47:51 <GNUtoo> let me find it
Mar 20 17:48:06 <Alex[sp3dev]> not right now
Mar 20 17:48:14 <Alex[sp3dev]> btw, this 3.0 kernel has a new modem driver
Mar 20 17:48:19 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 20 17:48:35 <Alex[sp3dev]> it is cleaner (close to what i wanted to write). it is google's rewritten modemctl, same as nexus s
Mar 20 17:49:25 <GNUtoo> ok nice
Mar 20 17:50:19 <GNUtoo>     Add poll_get_char & poll_put_char to uart_ops for the samsung UARTS.
Mar 20 17:50:24 <GNUtoo> from Julien Pichon
Mar 20 17:51:04 <GNUtoo> should I send it to you by mail?
Mar 20 18:10:07 * radek_ can now boot from ubifs on gta04, but with lot of errors in dmesg
Mar 20 18:10:32 <GNUtoo> radek_, wow
Mar 20 18:10:41 <GNUtoo> radek_, you modified the kernel?
Mar 20 18:12:21 <radek_> GNUtoo: i am using initramfs now and mounting it manually
Mar 20 18:12:28 <GNUtoo> ah ok
Mar 20 18:13:39 <radek_> GNUtoo: i think the initramfs could be nice also for SHR
Mar 20 18:13:54 <radek_> GNUtoo: i will write mail soon how to use it on ML
Mar 20 18:13:58 <GNUtoo> it would increase boot time
Mar 20 18:14:48 <radek_> GNUtoo: yup and it's nice for some experiments, e.g. you can have 10 distros on one partition
Mar 20 18:15:09 <radek_> GNUtoo: or booting readonly image etc...
Mar 20 18:15:55 <GNUtoo> yes but the 10 distros need to share the same kernel
Mar 20 18:15:58 <GNUtoo> else there is kexecboot
Mar 20 18:16:11 <radek_> yup the same kernel is only problem
Mar 20 18:16:24 <radek_> but IIRC you use neils kernel and his config?
Mar 20 18:17:09 <GNUtoo> we generate our kernel
Mar 20 18:17:18 <GNUtoo> from openembedded
Mar 20 18:18:00 <radek_> but i guess it's not that special - i think i can boot qtmoko with your kernel
Mar 20 18:18:11 <radek_> at least i could boot SHR with qtmoko's kernel :)
Mar 20 18:18:38 * radek_ needs reboot, brb
Mar 20 18:21:50 <radek_> GNUtoo: i have also simple scripting support in the initramfs, so you can write script and press that switches kernel on fat and reboot with SHR/some other kernel easily
Mar 20 18:22:32 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 20 19:54:34 <nschle85> dos1: ping
Mar 20 19:56:12 <nschle85> dos1: hello, the latest closed shr-core-staging image for n900 (036) cannot be found by the webinterface download page 
Mar 20 20:00:40 <dos1> nschle85: it's in shr-core
Mar 20 20:01:04 <nschle85> dos1: so its not a bug, ok
Mar 20 20:09:58 <radek_> GNUtoo: i have now figured out correct params for making ubi image and it works now perfectly - no more errors
Mar 20 20:21:24 <GNUtoo> radek_, ok could you send the correct params to the ml?
Mar 20 20:21:53 <GNUtoo> dos1, you're working on gta02?
Mar 20 20:23:42 <dos1> GNUtoo: i'm using it as daily phone, so i guess i'll commit something sooner or later
Mar 20 20:24:11 <GNUtoo> dos1, could you revert to 2.6.34?
Mar 20 20:24:37 <radek_> GNUtoo: oki, i'll do
Mar 20 20:24:47 <GNUtoo> radek_, thanks
Mar 20 20:25:46 <GNUtoo> dos1, there is a gta02-2.6.34 branch in meta-smartphone
Mar 20 20:34:19 <CIA-51> freesmartphone.org: 03GNUtoo 07utilities * r0920464d6d8c 10/gta04/gps-handler/gps_handler.py: 
Mar 20 20:34:19 <CIA-51> freesmartphone.org: GTA04 GPS handler: add python header to permit execution of the script
Mar 20 20:34:19 <CIA-51> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli <GNUtoo@no-log.org>
Mar 20 20:36:44 <GarthPS> I need to take some time her
Mar 20 20:36:52 <GarthPS> s/her/here/
Mar 20 20:36:52 <apt> GarthPS meant: I need to take some time here
Mar 20 20:52:06 <GNUtoo> GarthPS, hi
Mar 20 20:52:16 <GNUtoo> GarthPS, what do you want to work on?
Mar 20 21:18:06 <radek_> GNUtoo: sent the mail about ubifs now
Mar 20 21:18:10 <nschle85> GNUtoo: hi, i have asmall progress, i found settings for speaker and headphone :-)
Mar 20 21:18:19 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 20 21:18:21 <GNUtoo> nice
Mar 20 21:18:34 <nschle85> GNUtoo: now  i have to find the mic settings
Mar 20 21:18:44 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 20 21:30:27 <CIA-51> SHR: 03GNUtoo 07meta-smartphone * r301509d84599 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-bsp/gta04-gps-handler/gta04-gps-handler_git.bb: meta-openmoko: add an utility for handling the GTA04 GPS
Mar 20 21:49:03 <nschle85> GNUtoo: hmm.. i have  a question, how do i define more than one parameter which has to be changed ?
Mar 20 21:49:41 <nschle85> in libphoneuid.conf ?
Mar 20 21:50:11 <nschle85> eg, switch speaker on and set PCM to 100 % ?
Mar 20 22:02:32 <ccxCZ> good, I have fastboot compiled now
Mar 20 22:02:39 <ccxCZ> going to prepare sdcard
Mar 20 22:15:08 <nschle85> bye
Mar 20 22:18:23 <GNUtoo> ccxCZ, ok
Mar 20 22:20:21 <ccxCZ> hrm got bad sd card, or maybe it's the reader, couldn't even mkfs it
Mar 20 22:23:23 <GNUtoo> ouch
Mar 20 22:23:27 <GNUtoo> what did you try?
Mar 20 22:24:59 <GNUtoo> ccxCZ, ^^^
Mar 20 22:25:14 <ccxCZ> mkfs.ext2 -c
Mar 20 22:25:30 <ccxCZ> so I took a slow one from another phone
Mar 20 22:25:38 <ccxCZ> it will do for testing
Mar 20 22:26:17 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 20 22:26:19 <ccxCZ> but it's bit sad, as it was kingston class 10 16GiB
Mar 20 22:26:35 <GNUtoo> maybe you did something wrong
Mar 20 22:26:40 <GNUtoo> what was the exact command?
Mar 20 22:26:54 <GNUtoo> did you fdisk it?
Mar 20 22:27:13 <ccxCZ> yeah I did boot embedded linux from it before
Mar 20 22:27:21 <ccxCZ> it was ext2 already
Mar 20 22:27:31 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 20 22:27:54 <pespin> GNUtoo, hi :)
Mar 20 22:28:12 <ccxCZ> I suspect eeepc sd reader does not sit well with some cards though, will try later with different reader
Mar 20 22:28:17 <GNUtoo> pespin, hi
Mar 20 22:28:33 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 20 22:28:35 <pespin> typical question -> do I need to increment PR when I increment SRCREV in a svn based recipe? I forgot about it
Mar 20 22:28:43 <ccxCZ> ah indeed, seeing port resets with this card too
Mar 20 22:28:59 <pespin> I fixed a bug in emtooth2 and I want to push new version to OE
Mar 20 22:29:06 <GNUtoo> pespin, what the PV contains?
Mar 20 22:29:16 <pespin> GNUtoo, PV = "0.1+svnr${SRCPV}"
Mar 20 22:29:25 <GNUtoo> ok, here you don't
Mar 20 22:29:38 <GNUtoo> because it contains SRCPV
Mar 20 22:30:05 <pespin> what's SRCPV? similar to SRCREV?
Mar 20 22:30:17 <ccxCZ> ooops
Mar 20 22:30:30 <ccxCZ> just torn off the connector of the other card reader
Mar 20 22:30:50 <GNUtoo> it increase PV when SRCREV increase
Mar 20 22:30:58 <ccxCZ> welp I guess that's it for today
Mar 20 23:21:04 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, fso website seem very slow to respond
Mar 20 23:21:09 <GNUtoo> hi btw
Mar 20 23:21:47 <GNUtoo> never mind it works better now
Mar 20 23:54:19 <GarthPS> GNUtoo: hi!, on my pre2's reported bugs
Mar 21 00:26:14 * ccxCZ wonders how long is "very long"
Mar 21 00:40:47 * ccxCZ has been waiting for quater of hour for fastboot to boot shr
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