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Mar 22 03:51:46 <alabd> Good day all,
Mar 22 03:51:53 <alabd> how to solve this
Mar 22 03:51:55 <alabd> alabd@alabd:/media/dd9e9f0b-5df9-4876-899d-5bd8100d940f/alabd$ sudo tar -px -f shr-image-om-gta02-20120302115522.rootfs.tar.gz -C /media/0684d311-028a-49d6-9d72-b4cecba65b4f
Mar 22 03:51:55 <alabd> tar: shr-image-om-gta02-20120302115522.rootfs.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
Mar 22 03:54:25 <ilold_netbook> I might be wrong, but try to copy archive to target (sdcard) and extract there. don't forget to add --numeric owner.
Mar 22 03:56:34 <ilold_netbook> something like this: sudo tar xvzpf  /path/to/full-om-gta02.tar.gz --numeric-owner
Mar 22 04:02:34 <alabd> ilold_netbook: thanks but there is not enough space to copy archive there too 
Mar 22 04:04:34 <ilold_netbook> might be enough to execute command in target folder
Mar 22 04:07:11 <alabd> ilold_netbook: ah sorry . archive was not in that folder (moved before)  , after extracting archive on ext2 partion on uSD , can shr be booted? 
Mar 22 04:11:09 <ilold_netbook> alabd: sorry, that I do not know. I am a SHR begginer and I don't have a GTA02.... but I assume it will boot. This might be more helpful to you: http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Devices/GTA/InstallGuide
Mar 22 04:24:49 <CIA-51> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r0f3b149eca25 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Build 201203220400 of shr 20120322 for machine palmpre on opmbuild
Mar 22 05:05:50 <alabd> err dc
Mar 22 05:05:55 <alabd> Have extracted SHR tar into ext2 partition , seems it's required to adjust the kernel command line in u-boot , but what command and how 
Mar 22 05:13:45 <PaulFertser> lindi-: (just fyi, recently released) here's a python library to dump eagle files, the same author has another library that supports writing kicad files: https://github.com/alexer/pyeagle
Mar 22 05:51:54 <CIA-51> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r62319759c81e 10/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Build 201203220525 of shr 20120322 for machine palmpre2 on opmbuild
Mar 22 06:31:14 <JaMa> ilold_netbook: you can send patch adding HOMEPAGE or use ipk like everyone else :)
Mar 22 07:15:48 <alabd> Good day all , Have extracted SHR tar into ext2 partition , seems it's required to adjust the kernel command line in u-boot , but what command and how ?
Mar 22 07:31:28 <JaMa> why have you extracted so old image and why is seems to require command line (I have no idea what you have there now so it can be the case..)
Mar 22 07:35:30 <CIA-51> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r7cf14eef231f 10/ (91 files in 14 dirs): system upgrade
Mar 22 07:41:42 <alabd> JaMa: shr-image-om-gta02-20120302115522.rootfs.tar.gz
Mar 22 07:50:54 <CIA-51> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r05701f79b597 10/ (15 files in 4 dirs): Build 201203220653 of shr 20120322 for machine crespo on opmbuild
Mar 22 07:53:09 <jake42> alabd: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Add_uboot_boot_entry look for Boot entry for kernel and rootfs on same ext2 partition (tested with Qtopia/requires newer u-boot)
Mar 22 07:55:33 <jake42> fyi there is also another bootloader named qi which is simple though less features
Mar 22 08:19:33 <alabd> jake42: thanks , have installed androind on nand ,seems it's not using bootloader , so can use u-boot on nand to boot this shr
Mar 22 09:02:36 <jake42> alabd: gta02 has two bootloaders, one in nor and the other in nand
Mar 22 09:03:19 <jake42> don't know which one you use for android
Mar 22 10:44:02 <pabs3> jake42: nor is only used if you press and hold a button before booting so he is presumably using the nand one
Mar 22 12:27:05 <jake42> pabs3: you've got a point there
Mar 22 12:59:11 <ilold_netbook> things went better than expected. with my setup it isn't shr, more like something-oe-on-n900 but the Image looks good so far. I boots right into Xorg, with firmware I can connect to wifi. Modules seem to load properly and even touchscreen works (but inverted). suprisingly I even have sgx Modules built in.there are still a lot of recipes missing, but It's really pretty nice from my point of view.
Mar 22 13:00:11 <ilold_netbook> also, no segfault yet.
Mar 22 13:02:02 <JaMa> jake42: seems like spammers still get through e.g. #1868 2 hours ago
Mar 22 13:04:07 <JaMa> 21 tickets from him in last 2 months and I cannot kill him :/
Mar 22 13:12:38 <jake42> sigh, bummer that you can't see the spamfilter config
Mar 22 13:13:15 <jake42> I don't want bother the guys from bearstech all the time..
Mar 22 13:14:39 <JaMa> maybe spamfilter is just for registrations? so old spammers stay :/
Mar 22 13:15:04 <jake42> don't think so
Mar 22 13:15:06 <JaMa> other option is to move whole trac somewhere else or replace it with something better
Mar 22 13:15:12 <jake42> it asked me for captcha
Mar 22 13:15:35 <jake42> until i got 10 karma points
Mar 22 13:16:28 <jake42> maybe bot is able to fill captcha
Mar 22 15:00:38 <ilold_netbook> ok, I don't want to offend someone asking this, but I have to know. Why doesn't SHR/FSO make use of ofono for things ofono can do?
Mar 22 15:01:01 <PaulFertser> ilold_netbook: like what? fso had their GSM daemon long time before ofono started.
Mar 22 15:04:12 <ilold_netbook> I am aware that FSO is older then ofono. correct me if I am wrong, but at this point it seems to me that ofono supports more modems and is also open-source.
Mar 22 15:05:10 <lindi-> ilold_netbook: have you actually tried ofono on e.g. gta02?
Mar 22 15:05:27 <ilold_netbook> are there technical and/or political reasons that make ofono less desireable then fso, which I am not aware of?
Mar 22 15:05:31 <PaulFertser> ilold_netbook: i doubt ofono supports more modems, especially among those that are important for the end-users. Also, have you heard of anybody actually using ofono on his daily phone?
Mar 22 15:05:57 <ilold_netbook> lindi-: No, I dont have a Gta02.
Mar 22 15:06:14 <lindi-> ilold_netbook: oh
Mar 22 15:08:09 <lindi-> ilold_netbook: when I started with free phones people were using gsmd. then came ogsmd and then fso-gsmd. only after that came ofono
Mar 22 15:08:14 <lindi-> ilold_netbook: I'm still using ogsmd
Mar 22 15:08:37 <lindi-> ilold_netbook: since I'm tired of switching from one project to the next only to see how upstream abandons it..
Mar 22 15:09:14 <ilold_netbook> PaulFerster: A look at ofono website at least indicates, that more modems are supported. Other then n900, I don't know but read somewhere that this tizen-project seems to plan on using ofono.
Mar 22 15:09:22 <ilold_netbook> lindi-: ok
Mar 22 15:10:48 <PaulFertser> ilold_netbook: can ofono really be used on n900?
Mar 22 15:11:03 <PaulFertser> ilold_netbook: do you know anybody using fully free software telephony on n900? I'd probably be interested.
Mar 22 15:13:06 <PaulFertser> ilold_netbook: in fact, do you know _anybody_ using ofono on his daily cellphone?
Mar 22 15:14:43 <ilold_netbook> PaulFerster: about usabilty, I think so. but haven't really tried myself ofono yet nor actually seen someone using it. mer-project might actually make use of it, not sure.
Mar 22 15:16:07 <ilold_netbook> PaulFerster: Do you know about technical problems with ofono?
Mar 22 15:23:33 <PaulFertser> ilold_netbook: yes, i think it wasn't actually tested in real-life scenarious.
Mar 22 15:23:54 <PaulFertser> s/ous/os/
Mar 22 15:23:55 <apt> PaulFertser meant: ilold_netbook: yes, i think it wasn't actually tested in real-life scenarios.
Mar 22 15:24:12 <PaulFertser> And thus is unsuitable for a smartphone without considerable hacking.
Mar 22 15:24:41 <PaulFertser> ilold_netbook: also, it doesn't seem to support devices that are the main FSO's targets. 
Mar 22 15:25:12 <ilold_netbook> PaulFerster: ok
Mar 22 15:25:49 <PaulFertser> ilold_netbook: btw, you can use tab to complete nicks
Mar 22 15:26:32 <PaulFertser> ilold_netbook: in fact, some parts of ofono were borrowed and are now used in FSO.
Mar 22 15:27:17 <ilold_netbook> PaulFertser,  thanks for tab-tipp. 
Mar 22 15:28:24 <ilold_netbook> PaulFertser,  hint
Mar 22 16:59:17 <DocScrutinizer> anybody a hint for me how to get rid of that friggin MSIE toolbar that cpmes with JavaRE update?
Mar 22 16:59:29 <DocScrutinizer> comes*
Mar 22 18:37:28 <CIA-51> SHR: 03GNUtoo 07meta-smartphone * r7ea2735574bb 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-bsp/gta04-gps-handler/ (gta04-gps-handler/gps-handler gta04-gps-handler_git.bb): meta-openmoko: gta04-gps-handler: add init script to the recipe
Mar 22 20:50:18 <GNUtoo> hi DocScrutinizer 
Mar 22 21:07:39 <GNUtoo> JaMa, hi
Mar 22 21:07:56 <GNUtoo> what's the most recent branch we have for gta02 kernel with working sound
Mar 22 21:08:05 <GNUtoo> if I recall well there was something > 2.6.39
Mar 22 21:10:55 <JaMa> sound works for me with 3.2.1
Mar 22 21:12:10 <GNUtoo> hmmm
Mar 22 21:12:11 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 22 21:12:15 <GNUtoo> where is that branch?
Mar 22 21:14:11 <GNUtoo> because there are 3 gitorious projects
Mar 22 21:15:09 <JaMa> http://gitorious.org/shr/linux
Mar 22 21:15:44 <GNUtoo> it's shr-3.2-nodrm?
Mar 22 21:16:00 <JaMa> it should be written in shr.patch in meta-smartphone
Mar 22 21:16:08 <JaMa> but yes, looks right
Mar 22 21:16:14 <GNUtoo> ok I'll try
Mar 22 21:16:46 <GNUtoo> basically on linux-next I've the same part of the .wav repeated again and again
Mar 22 21:16:58 <GNUtoo> and it progress slowly but still advance tough
Mar 22 21:25:42 <GNUtoo> hmmm
Mar 22 21:25:47 <GNUtoo> it doesn't even boot for me
Mar 22 21:25:50 <GNUtoo> maybe wrong config
Mar 22 21:29:44 <JaMa> have you used meta-smartphone/meta-openmoko/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-openmoko_3.2.bb ?
Mar 22 21:30:15 <JaMa> that's what I'm running right now
Mar 22 21:30:26 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 22 21:30:34 <GNUtoo> what's lacking in that kernel?
Mar 22 21:31:38 <JaMa> sound is picky on order of module load (as reported on ML)
Mar 22 21:31:44 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 22 21:31:46 <GNUtoo> that's all?
Mar 22 21:31:50 <JaMa> but with small tweak it works for me with systemd
Mar 22 21:31:55 <GNUtoo> wow
Mar 22 21:32:11 <GNUtoo> ah it boots this time
Mar 22 21:32:16 <JaMa> http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=meta-smartphone.git;a=commit;h=f0aa32f3de241c40b590b0f39454edd6cd619e89
Mar 22 21:32:24 <JaMa> with this it probably works also with sysvinit
Mar 22 21:32:46 <GNUtoo> hmm it booted 39 I'll retry
Mar 22 21:32:58 <GNUtoo> I forgott to press the button
Mar 22 21:33:43 <GNUtoo> ahh I record now
Mar 22 21:33:54 <GNUtoo> some of my patches were backported to stable kernels
Mar 22 21:33:57 <GNUtoo> for sound
Mar 22 21:34:02 <GNUtoo> so maybe that's because of that
Mar 22 21:34:09 <JaMa> u-a doesn't work for 2.6.39 -> 3.2.1 switch
Mar 22 21:34:27 <JaMa> so you have to update /boot/uImage link manually
Mar 22 21:34:33 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 22 21:34:46 <GNUtoo> I flashed on NAND but have a microsd in the slot
Mar 22 21:34:52 <GNUtoo> so I've to press the button each time
Mar 22 21:35:35 <GNUtoo> I get null pointer with the sound compiled in
Mar 22 21:35:41 <GNUtoo> I'll try your defconfig
Mar 22 21:38:51 <GNUtoo> so what kernel should we use for the release?
Mar 22 21:38:54 <GNUtoo> 2.6.34?
Mar 22 21:38:57 <GNUtoo> 2.6.39?
Mar 22 21:38:59 <GNUtoo> 3.2?
Mar 22 21:40:16 <GNUtoo> can 3.2 suspend/release ok
Mar 22 21:40:29 <GNUtoo> *suspend/resume fine
Mar 22 22:44:17 <GNUtoo> how to add back opimd-cli contact to the SIM?
Mar 22 22:45:43 <nschle85> GNUtoo: hello, i have a short question: is /etc/freesmartphone/conf/nokia_n900/alsa-default applied before a scenario is activated ? 
Mar 22 22:46:35 <nschle85> GNUtoo: and is the nokia_900 directory automatically used or do i need to symlink it to somwhere else ?
Mar 22 22:47:32 <GNUtoo> look in alsa.conf
Mar 22 22:47:39 <GNUtoo> cardname = default
Mar 22 22:47:47 <GNUtoo> for gta02
Mar 22 22:48:05 <GNUtoo> which points to alsa-default
Mar 22 22:48:12 <GNUtoo> which points to alsa-2.6.39
Mar 22 22:50:13 <GNUtoo> nschle85, do you know a way to save the contacts on the SIM?
Mar 22 22:50:30 <GNUtoo> like through some GUI or command line uttility?
Mar 22 22:50:41 <nschle85> on N900 ?
Mar 22 22:51:20 <GNUtoo> on whatever SHR phone
Mar 22 22:51:31 <GNUtoo> on n900 that won't work
Mar 22 22:51:39 <nschle85> on GTA02 standard GSM AT command should work
Mar 22 22:51:51 <GNUtoo> at that point I can use FSO
Mar 22 22:51:57 <GNUtoo> but there is a lot of contacts to add
Mar 22 22:52:41 <GNUtoo> they are encoded in the opim DB
Mar 22 22:52:51 <GNUtoo> so I would have to retrive them with opimd-cli
Mar 22 22:53:01 <GNUtoo> and then manually to add them trough mdbus2 to the sim
Mar 22 22:53:04 <GNUtoo> that's quite long
Mar 22 22:53:28 <nschle85> i would use http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=gsm%20at%20&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CFAQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.expansys.com%2Fi%2Fdrv%2Fubinetics-at-command-set.pdf&ei=Iq1rT7eyLoPcsgaM6aGFAg&usg=AFQjCNGfW1fKFJvqqSdaeFxmM0oHXdsDqQ&cad=rja
Mar 22 22:53:35 <nschle85> chapter 4.4.4
Mar 22 22:53:58 <GNUtoo> ah it's not the SHR manual
Mar 22 22:54:01 <GNUtoo> I know AT
Mar 22 22:54:10 <GNUtoo> but the problem is to automate it quickely
Mar 22 22:54:17 <GNUtoo> do you know mdbus2
Mar 22 22:54:23 <GNUtoo> it's even better than AT
Mar 22 22:54:46 <ilold_netbook> doesn't t telephaty have this funktion?
Mar 22 22:55:00 <GNUtoo> no idea
Mar 22 22:55:09 <GNUtoo> can telepathy talk to fso?
Mar 22 22:56:08 <ilold_netbook> not sure.
Mar 22 22:56:08 <GNUtoo> ah maybe trough pisi
Mar 22 22:56:23 <nschle85> http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Tutorials/sms
Mar 22 22:56:42 <nschle85> but you need to find the dbus interface for phonebook
Mar 22 22:56:47 <GNUtoo> nschle85, that's exactly the kind of stuff I want to avoid
Mar 22 22:56:56 <GNUtoo> I'll try pisi
Mar 22 22:57:24 <GNUtoo> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Pisi
Mar 22 22:58:47 <nschle85> good luck
Mar 22 22:58:52 <GNUtoo> thanks
Mar 22 22:59:04 <GNUtoo> Unknown package 'pisi'.
Mar 22 22:59:08 <GNUtoo> sigh we lost pisi
Mar 22 22:59:25 <GNUtoo> ah but it's python
Mar 22 22:59:36 <nschle85> hmm is the n900 directory automatically found ?
Mar 22 23:00:05 <GNUtoo> what do you mean?
Mar 22 23:00:15 <GNUtoo> what dir exactly?
Mar 22 23:00:33 <GNUtoo> if you mean /etc/freesmartphone/* it looks in /proc/cpuinfo
Mar 22 23:00:39 <GNUtoo> so it's rx51 something
Mar 22 23:02:18 <nschle85> Hardware        : Nokia RX-51 board
Mar 22 23:03:32 <nschle85> so the path should be /etc/freesmartphone/conf/Nokia RX-51 board/alsa-default ?
Mar 22 23:04:01 <pespin> telepathy + fso is WIP :P
Mar 22 23:04:10 <GNUtoo> yes
Mar 22 23:04:14 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 22 23:04:33 <nschle85> ahh i found the symbolic link (without spaces)
Mar 22 23:04:35 <pespin> I don't think I'll have time to work on it soon though, as I may get a part time job
Mar 22 23:05:06 <nschle85> GNUtoo: and when (and how often) is alsa-default loaded 
Mar 22 23:05:07 <nschle85> ?
Mar 22 23:11:02 <GNUtoo> on scenario changes
Mar 22 23:11:11 <GNUtoo> what's inside are scenarios
Mar 22 23:28:58 <nschle85> bye
Mar 22 23:30:33 <GNUtoo> I fixed the first error
Mar 22 23:30:43 <GNUtoo> only to learn that it was made for the old opimd
Mar 22 23:30:56 <GNUtoo> UnknownMethodException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Unknown method: GetUsedBackends is not a valid method of interface org.freesmartphone.PIM.Contact
Mar 22 23:31:56 <GNUtoo> then I hate that but I've to spend hours doing it manually each time
Mar 22 23:31:58 <GNUtoo> grrrrrr
Mar 22 23:33:08 <GNUtoo> ah by commenting the line it continues
Mar 22 23:33:38 <GNUtoo> but then it crashes again
Mar 22 23:33:40 <GNUtoo> gtrrrrrrrrrrr
Mar 22 23:39:23 <GNUtoo> let's see if it worked this time
Mar 22 23:39:29 <GNUtoo> because it reached 100%
Mar 22 23:41:25 <GNUtoo> wow it worked
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