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Mar 28 03:26:09 <CIA-51> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r7123f5aa9477 10/ (41 files in 23 dirs): Build 201203280349 of shr 20120328 for machine palmpre on opmbuild
Mar 28 05:16:22 <CIA-51> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * re092241b110e 10/images/palmpre2/eglibc/ (20 files in 2 dirs): Build 201203280529 of shr 20120328 for machine palmpre2 on opmbuild
Mar 28 07:13:29 <DocScrutinizer> moo
Mar 28 07:14:35 <JaMa> moo2
Mar 28 07:43:04 <CIA-51> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rce5783990ef8 10/images/crespo/eglibc/ (24 files in 3 dirs): Build 201203280719 of shr 20120328 for machine crespo on opmbuild
Mar 28 11:39:17 <CIA-51> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rccaf978b2b12 10/meta-shr/ (2 files in 2 dirs): shr: switch init manager to systemd
Mar 28 11:39:17 <CIA-51> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rade0ffe668ad 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/tasks/task-shr-minimal.bb: task-shr-minimal: drop rsyslog, systemd has now journald
Mar 28 11:39:17 <CIA-51> SHR: 03mok 07meta-smartphone * r24161eed3c18 10/meta-shr/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fs-perms-shr, base-files: drop volatiles for systemd
Mar 28 11:39:17 <CIA-51> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r6d4bb94e3e4b 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/tasks/task-shr-minimal.bb: task-shr-minimal: add task-shr-systemd
Mar 28 11:39:18 <CIA-51> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r9c5aa8f8c035 10/meta-shr/recipes-core/initscripts/ (initscripts/volatiles initscripts_1.0.bbappend): initscripts: drop /var/run link
Mar 28 11:39:18 <CIA-51> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rdf34f525a249 10/meta-aurora/recipes-aurora/images/aurora-image.bb: aurora-image: try to drop IMAGE_BOOT variables as everything should be pulled by task-core-boot
Mar 28 11:39:28 <CIA-51> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * ra69133af2da2 10/meta-shr/recipes-extended/polkit/polkit_0.104.bbappend: polkit: PRINC bump after VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager change
Mar 28 11:39:28 <CIA-51> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r79b8ba8acbb7 10/meta-shr/ (3 files in 3 dirs): meta-shr: change VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_graphical_init_manager to xserver-nodm-init-systemd
Mar 28 11:47:12 <CIA-51> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r20ae031cc1fc 10/meta-fso/recipes-freesmartphone/freesmartphone/fso-specs_git.bb: fso-specs: add version to LICENSE field to fix QA WARNING
Mar 28 12:10:25 <CIA-51> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * rc5b41c3b43f7 10/ (179 files in 31 dirs): system upgrade
Mar 28 12:10:36 <CIA-51> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * rda70bfb15fc7 10/ (1402 files in 58 dirs): system upgrade
Mar 28 13:26:37 <JaMa> GNUtoo: here I don't have mplayer linked to libfaad at all
Mar 28 13:43:30 <JaMa> someone still with "build-x86_64-oe-linux/shlib.lds:127: syntax error" issue while building eglibc? 
Mar 28 14:03:20 <CIA-51> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r5025f2f44889 10/ (145 files in 125 dirs): Build 201203281446 of shr 20120328 for machine om-gta02 on opmbuild
Mar 28 14:34:07 <GNUtoo> JaMa, there is something wrong with my builds then
Mar 28 14:34:58 <JaMa> maybe it's autodetected and I had it built in different order then you
Mar 28 14:36:23 <JaMa> but still shlibs should add it to RDEPENDS for you too
Mar 28 15:22:40 <CIA-51> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rfe0b6d9dd28a 10/ (86 files in 66 dirs): Build 201203281612 of shr 20120328 for machine nokia900 on opmbuild
Mar 28 15:49:17 <paulk-desktop> hi
Mar 28 15:49:29 <paulk-desktop> I got my GTA04 \o/
Mar 28 16:33:52 <paulk-desktop> yay, screen set and working!
Mar 28 16:37:03 <CIA-51> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rb4b3a408d84a 10/ (84 files in 64 dirs): Build 201203281730 of shr 20120328 for machine om-gta04 on opmbuild
Mar 28 16:43:58 <grvrulz> is there a cheaper device/board similar to freerunner but with basic features only???
Mar 28 16:44:27 <lindi-> grvrulz: not really
Mar 28 16:45:21 <grvrulz> Actually I'm planning to create an accesibility device for visually impaired people and freerunner is awesome for that, just a little costly.
Mar 28 16:47:10 <DocScrutinizer> agni back, I heard
Mar 28 16:47:35 <lindi-> grvrulz: not sure if it is reliable enough for that
Mar 28 16:48:17 <grvrulz> lindi-: one of my friends has one, and it's stable enough. BTW i dont need telephone functionality.
Mar 28 16:49:19 <DocScrutinizer> https://monitor.openmoko.org/munin/index.html
Mar 28 16:49:50 <DocScrutinizer> https://monitor.openmoko.org/munin/agni/index.html
Mar 28 16:51:19 <DocScrutinizer> https://monitor.openmoko.org/munin/agni/agni.openmoko.org.html
Mar 28 16:55:14 <DocScrutinizer> and of course https://admin-trac.openmoko.org/trac/login
Mar 28 17:00:16 <DocScrutinizer> so, if you haven't guessed yet: OM infra should be back, with shiny new hw :-D
Mar 28 17:01:10 <DocScrutinizer> ~nf
Mar 28 17:01:10 <apt> The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at ~NF2. For help see ~NF-help)  - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~RL  - - -  NEWSFLASH [2011-05-06] No News
Mar 28 17:01:26 <DocScrutinizer> ~nf-help
Mar 28 17:01:26 <apt> >>list old content (~literal NF); ~forget #openmoko-cdevel NF; c&p and edit old content, then set new (~#openmoko-cdevel NF is <reply>whatever-new-content). The leading #openmoko-cdevel makes the factoid channel specific. If you edit in a query, you invoke by '#openmoko-cdevel NF'
Mar 28 17:01:37 <DocScrutinizer> ~literal NF
Mar 28 17:01:37 <apt> "#openmoko-cdevel nf" is "<reply>The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at ~NF2. For help see ~NF-help)  - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~RL  - - -  NEWSFLASH [2011-05-06] No News"
Mar 28 17:03:48 <DocScrutinizer> ~no, #openmoko-cdevel nf is <reply>The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at ~NF2. For help see ~NF-help)  - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~RL  - - -  NEWSFLASH [2012-03-28] server "agni.openmoko.org" got new hw, so no more downtime expected
Mar 28 17:04:41 <DocScrutinizer> ~forget #openmoko-cdevel NF
Mar 28 17:04:42 <apt> DocScrutinizer: i forgot #openmoko-cdevel nf
Mar 28 17:04:53 <DocScrutinizer> ~#openmoko-cdevel nf is <reply>The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at ~NF2. For help see ~NF-help)  - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~RL  - - -  NEWSFLASH [2012-03-28] server "agni.openmoko.org" got new hw, so no more downtime expected
Mar 28 17:04:53 <apt> DocScrutinizer: okay
Mar 28 17:04:58 <DocScrutinizer> ~nf
Mar 28 17:04:59 <apt> The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at ~NF2. For help see ~NF-help)  - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~RL  - - -  NEWSFLASH [2012-03-28] server "agni.openmoko.org" got new hw, so no more downtime expected
Mar 28 17:07:02 <DocScrutinizer> ~literal nf2
Mar 28 17:07:03 <apt> "#openmoko-cdevel nf2" is "<reply>(here you'll find additional info, if newsflash on ~NF is too short to hold all the info)"
Mar 28 17:07:21 <DocScrutinizer> ~forget nf2
Mar 28 17:07:21 <apt> DocScrutinizer: i didn't have anything called 'nf2' to forget
Mar 28 17:10:03 <DocScrutinizer> #openmoko-cdevel nf2 is <reply>MANY THANKS Roh and Gismo for the persevering administration . awesome job!  ( --- here you'll find additional info, if newsflash on ~NF is too short to hold all the info)
Mar 28 17:10:09 <DocScrutinizer> ~#openmoko-cdevel nf2 is <reply>MANY THANKS Roh and Gismo for the persevering administration . awesome job!  ( --- here you'll find additional info, if newsflash on ~NF is too short to hold all the info)
Mar 28 17:10:10 <apt> ...but #openmoko-cdevel nf2 is already something else...
Mar 28 17:10:28 <DocScrutinizer> ~forget #openmoko-cdevel nf2
Mar 28 17:10:29 <apt> i forgot #openmoko-cdevel nf2, DocScrutinizer
Mar 28 17:10:33 <DocScrutinizer> ~#openmoko-cdevel nf2 is <reply>MANY THANKS Roh and Gismo for the persevering administration . awesome job!  ( --- here you'll find additional info, if newsflash on ~NF is too short to hold all the info)
Mar 28 17:10:34 <apt> DocScrutinizer: okay
Mar 28 17:10:40 <DocScrutinizer> ~nf2
Mar 28 17:10:41 <apt> MANY THANKS Roh and Gismo for the persevering administration . awesome job!  ( --- here you'll find additional info, if newsflash on ~NF is too short to hold all the info)
Mar 28 17:16:22 <morphis> heyho
Mar 28 17:20:58 <DocScrutinizer> hoh hey
Mar 28 17:30:53 <morphis> GNUtoo: I tried to work around the VTS bug
Mar 28 17:31:43 <morphis> GNUtoo: you can try the bug/669-at+vts-should-not-wait-for-answer branch of cornucopia
Mar 28 17:34:02 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 28 17:34:05 <GNUtoo> thanks a lot
Mar 28 17:34:09 <GNUtoo> I'll try after work
Mar 28 17:34:34 <morphis> GNUtoo: ok
Mar 28 17:37:22 <Alex[sp3dev]> GNUtoo: how would you debug alsa? ftrace or kft?
Mar 28 17:41:19 <GNUtoo> what's kft?
Mar 28 17:41:28 <Alex[sp3dev]> kernel function tracing
Mar 28 17:41:31 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 28 17:41:38 <GNUtoo> I would have tought of strace 
Mar 28 17:41:44 <Alex[sp3dev]> indeed
Mar 28 17:41:48 <GNUtoo> to get ioctl and syscalls
Mar 28 17:42:12 <GNUtoo> paulk-desktop, is an expert of stracing android stuff
Mar 28 17:42:51 <paulk-desktop> gotta eat now, bbl
Mar 28 17:43:06 <Alex[sp3dev]> ok, i'll check out and compile a custom android kernel and add printks. i hoped i'd figure it out without doing that
Mar 28 17:48:02 <CIA-51> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r2888a91429b4 10/ (65 files in 45 dirs): Build 201203281844 of shr 20120328 for machine palmpre on opmbuild
Mar 28 18:03:09 <morphis> JaMa|Off: ping
Mar 28 18:24:54 <PaulFertser> Alex[sp3dev]: systemtap is an awesome tool too.
Mar 28 18:27:39 <PaulFertser> Alex[sp3dev]: i think reading introduction to systap certainly worth it.
Mar 28 18:27:56 <Alex[sp3dev]> PaulFertser: sure, will try that this week
Mar 28 18:56:23 <morphis> GNUtoo: btw. you fixed the problem with g_ether for the Nexus S?
Mar 28 18:56:56 <GNUtoo> what problem?
Mar 28 18:58:21 <morphis> with rndis_bind_config(...) method
Mar 28 18:58:48 <GNUtoo> ahh that one
Mar 28 18:58:49 <GNUtoo> no
Mar 28 18:58:58 <GNUtoo> I'm not sure
Mar 28 18:59:05 <morphis> which has a different API than required (with vendorID and manufacturer)
Mar 28 18:59:14 <GNUtoo> At least I didn't switch the kernel defconfig
Mar 28 18:59:19 <GNUtoo> but maybe it's fixed by me
Mar 28 18:59:23 <GNUtoo> I really don't remember 
Mar 28 18:59:25 <GNUtoo> I'll look
Mar 28 18:59:58 <morphis> I fixed it locally already
Mar 28 19:00:09 <morphis> just asking if you have a better solution
Mar 28 19:00:18 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 28 19:00:24 <GNUtoo> if I had a solution it's pushed
Mar 28 19:00:28 <GNUtoo> if not it's not pushed
Mar 28 19:00:37 <morphis> ok
Mar 28 19:01:00 <morphis> as I build a systemd based image for the nexus s and it boots fine but usbnet does not work
Mar 28 19:03:01 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 28 19:03:03 <GNUtoo> I've serial
Mar 28 19:03:18 <CIA-51> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rd5623b4dedfa 10/ (65 files in 45 dirs): Build 201203281954 of shr 20120328 for machine palmpre2 on opmbuild
Mar 28 19:20:08 <morphis> GNUtoo: problems seems that systemd doesn't execute /etc/init.d/rndissetup.sh anymore
Mar 28 19:20:14 <morphis> so we need a *.service file for this
Mar 28 19:20:59 <GNUtoo> indeed
Mar 28 19:21:49 <morphis> and we need some crespo-service-pack_1.0.bb
Mar 28 19:21:55 <morphis> to ship such things
Mar 28 19:22:57 <morphis> but I want to ask JaMa|Off about this first
Mar 28 19:24:01 <morphis> GNUtoo: about the nexus s and serial, which usb-serial-converter are you using?
Mar 28 19:24:41 <GNUtoo> lol
Mar 28 19:24:48 <GNUtoo> about service pack it doesn't seem a good name
Mar 28 19:24:51 <GNUtoo> but I got the idea
Mar 28 19:24:55 <GNUtoo> one from sparkfun
Mar 28 19:33:00 <morphis> ok
Mar 28 19:33:16 <morphis> GNUtoo: yeah service-pack is a bad name but the fastest I got in my head :)
Mar 28 19:34:16 <morphis> hm replicant wiki is down
Mar 28 19:34:19 <Alex[sp3dev]> awesome. i got sound on sgs2
Mar 28 19:34:38 <GNUtoo> morphis, the redmine wiki?
Mar 28 19:34:42 <GNUtoo> Alex[sp3dev], wow
Mar 28 19:34:46 <GNUtoo> Alex[sp3dev], what was it?
Mar 28 19:34:46 <morphis> GNUtoo: yes
Mar 28 19:34:59 <Alex[sp3dev]> i don't get how it work, but somehow if headphone or speaker left mixer is disabled in mc1n2 (codec), the playback gets stuck
Mar 28 19:35:12 <morphis> GNUtoo: you know which one from sparkfun?
Mar 28 19:35:41 <Alex[sp3dev]> GNUtoo: do you think it is a good idea to make a branch based on android kernel until we fix stuff on linaro tree?
Mar 28 19:35:43 <GNUtoo> yes look on replicant wiki when it's up
Mar 28 19:36:24 <GNUtoo> Alex[sp3dev], hmmm I don't know. you should look how much standard android is to do that
Mar 28 19:36:27 <GNUtoo> else it's a lot of work
Mar 28 19:36:38 <GNUtoo> (else means if it's not standard)
Mar 28 19:37:41 <Alex[sp3dev]> GNUtoo: well, it uses alsa and suspend works. v4l2 camera is the same as nexus (i.e., should work with an activator). i think i'll push the branch for now, just need to hack mc1n2
Mar 28 19:38:04 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 28 20:27:52 <JaMa|Off> morphis: pong/2
Mar 28 20:28:04 <CIA-51> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rf09967389cb4 10/ (67 files in 46 dirs): Build 201203282110 of shr 20120328 for machine crespo on opmbuild
Mar 28 20:28:22 <JaMa|Off> it shoud be executed as part of sysvinit services
Mar 28 20:28:28 <JaMa|Off> but .service would be better
Mar 28 20:30:03 <GNUtoo-netbook> .service should also be done for gta04 gps
Mar 28 20:49:59 <morphis> JaMa|Off: where should I add such a .service?
Mar 29 02:36:44 <pabs3> DocScrutinizer: \o/ thanks for co-ordinating!
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