**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 15 02:59:59 2012 May 15 03:02:53 there isn't really much private in it, so here is a pastebin: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/29c671a5 May 15 03:03:09 DocScrutinizer, rah: May 15 03:03:12 ^ May 15 04:06:56 HAH May 15 04:28:50 confusing eh May 15 04:49:49 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r92411e63ce6d 10/fsogsmd/src/bin/Makefile.am: fsogsmd: bin: set right content for MAINTAINERCLEANFILES May 15 04:49:50 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rd3acf6fe3818 10/libfsobasics/fsobasics/filehandling.vala: libfsobasics: filehandling: refactor remoteTree method to completely remove a directory structure May 15 04:49:50 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r61f2b024c475 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/fsogsm3rdparty.vapi: May 15 04:49:51 freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: lib: sms: use md5 hash of complete pdu as hash for single part SMS messages May 15 04:49:51 freesmartphone.org: This fixes bug #568 May 15 04:49:51 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r94109eaf92a9 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fsogsmd: plugins: no reimplementation of SmsGetSizeForTextMessage mediator needed May 15 05:23:11 pabs3: confusing or confused May 15 05:23:44 confusing May 15 05:26:39 I prefer to think "confused", and thus it's not confusing me May 15 06:34:46 while mounting jffs2 filesystem I m getting this error .... "mtd->read(0x400 bytes from 0x0) returned ECC error jffs2_scan_inode_node(): CRC failed on node at 0x0000010c: Read 0xe1c82204, calculated 0x9168932a May 15 06:35:50 sounds like something got corrupted May 15 07:15:13 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r63e216fdb3b7 10/ (226 files in 31 dirs): system upgrade May 15 07:35:03 heyho May 15 07:56:35 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rf2a2e039ce5b 10/images/crespo/eglibc/chroot-image/ (build-id image-info.txt installed-package-sizes.txt): images: Build 201205150950 of shr 20120515 for machine crespo on opmbuild May 15 08:38:31 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r9e7cf59f5aca 10/images/om_gta02/eglibc/shr-image/ (11 files): images: Build 201205151013 of shr 20120515 for machine om-gta02 on opmbuild May 15 09:06:30 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r88f200673d5b 10/images/nokia900/eglibc/shr-image/ (11 files): images: Build 201205151042 of shr 20120515 for machine nokia900 on opmbuild May 15 09:32:33 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r60ccff0ec75b 10/images/om_gta04/eglibc/shr-image/ (11 files): images: Build 201205151108 of shr 20120515 for machine om-gta04 on opmbuild May 15 09:58:06 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r1752723494de 10/images/crespo/eglibc/shr-image/ (11 files): images: Build 201205151134 of shr 20120515 for machine crespo on opmbuild May 15 11:41:15 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rb234b53cc918 10/libgsm0710mux/ (Makefile.am configure.ac): libgsm0710mux: refactor autoconf/automake configuration May 15 11:41:16 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r4f148ca357db 10/RELEASE-TODO: Update list of things we have to do before 0.11 release May 15 11:41:17 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r4e908069429c 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/phonebook.vala: fsogsmd: lib: removed unneeded and commented code May 15 11:41:17 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * ra18f51d666d6 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/ (Makefile.am at/atphonebook.vala phonebook.vala): fsogsmd: lib: split AT specific phonebook handler into own vala source file May 15 11:41:18 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r7ab61af759c4 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/at/atphonebook.vala: fsogsmd: lib: at: clearly separate public and private methods of phonebook handler class May 15 11:41:18 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rab36f8e4ed68 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/ (at/atphonebook.vala at/atsimmediators.vala phonebook.vala): fsogsmd: lib: resync phonebook storage after entry was deleted May 15 11:41:28 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07libfso-glib * r0109fad992c9 10/NEWS: Update NEWS file May 15 12:37:24 pabs3: it's kinda strange how Sean claims Roh wasn't responsive, while same time admitting he himself isn't reading any mail anymore (evidenced by the fact it took ages until your mail got answered) May 15 12:49:38 DocScrutinizer: aye May 15 12:50:34 roh and me won't touch the servers anymore if they move to USA (quite annoying privacy laws) May 15 12:51:32 yeah, I saw the discussion on the other channel. fair enough IMO May 15 12:51:39 gismo already gave up on it May 15 13:07:59 DocScrutinizer: the openmoko servers will move the USA? why that? May 15 13:09:30 that's what Roh implied when reading Sean's mail pabs3 quoted/pastebin'ed. I dunno what makes him assume this will happen, but I guess he has good indications to assume it May 15 13:09:39 btw: looking at that monit web, are there any other services then wiki + ML which are still regularly used? May 15 13:10:15 err, monit web? May 15 13:10:31 that link from you, mmt May 15 13:10:34 DocScrutinizer: I guess he was talking about this mail: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2012-May/066883.html May 15 13:10:36 munin May 15 13:10:53 sure, my email addr for example May 15 13:11:05 I'll nuke it May 15 13:11:18 sooner rather than later May 15 13:11:57 pabs3: :nod: May 15 13:12:54 I definitely don't like all my mail at the arbitrary force of some unknown guy in USA May 15 13:13:04 neither my homedir on those servers May 15 13:13:28 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rfac620d111a2 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/phonebookhandler.vala: fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: implement missing syncWithSim method for phonebook handler May 15 13:13:35 and I'm actually wondering what's with all the non-public stuff, like datasheets OM received under NDA May 15 13:14:11 surely those wouldn't be on an *.openmoko.org server? May 15 13:14:19 you begt they are May 15 13:14:23 bet* May 15 13:14:28 oh May 15 13:14:53 where else might they be? May 15 13:15:20 all the internal ML, the internal NDA'd stuff etc pp May 15 13:15:26 I would have thought internal servers on the om inc intranet May 15 13:15:47 we had one or two of those as well, yes May 15 13:15:59 yup munin.. when looking at it I was wondering for what are those servers still used (those with cpu/mem activity) May 15 13:16:06 but those were nasty to reach from e.g. Germany ;-) May 15 13:18:01 in the end those intranet servers were a huge PITA for all externals May 15 13:18:41 I see May 15 13:20:51 and Sean is happily ignoring all those problems, and simply told Roh and Gismo "now it's community, means you won't get paid for service" May 15 13:21:31 then fools like Rah rush in barking up all trees they can find May 15 13:22:37 * pabs3 replied to the second part of Sean's mail just now with "I find this a bit surprising, I saw that they were active on IRC today, I would encourage you to try to contact them again and to resolve the issue with Hetzner." May 15 13:23:00 thanks May 15 14:07:31 http://paste.debian.net/168928/ May 15 14:08:23 http://paste.debian.net/168929/ May 15 14:08:38 maybe that src cause my problem May 15 15:07:20 ashmen has been lock in kernel, i can't disable it at all May 15 15:52:08 thank you May 15 16:20:32 pabs3: I mirrored git, wiki and mailing lists to http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/mirror/ May 15 16:23:52 thanks May 15 16:26:36 blah, I missed the images in the wiki May 15 16:37:41 lindi-: how did you mirror wiki? May 15 16:38:43 DocScrutinizer: the mirror-tools/ directories have some documentation May 15 16:38:55 reading May 15 16:40:56 errr, I thought the special:export was nonfunct May 15 16:41:21 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * ra8658fa187fb 10/tools/mdbus2/ (Makefile.am configure.ac src/Makefile.am): tools: mdbus2: refactor autoconf/automake configuration May 15 16:41:22 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r73fa755788ee 10/tools/mdbus2/src/main.vala: tools: mdbus2: parse quotes correctly May 15 16:41:22 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * ra5c9f89378ae 10/tools/mdbus2/src/argument.vala: tools: mdbus2: enable parsing of struct/array/dict types without adding them to the result May 15 16:41:23 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rb15a78fe61fe 10/tools/mdbus2/src/argument.vala: tools: mdbus2: try to parse a string argument first before adding it as string directly May 15 16:41:23 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r172d62312631 10/tools/mdbus2/src/argument.vala: tools: mdbus2: refactor argument to variant conversion to use different variant builders May 15 16:41:24 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rce4950b73aa0 10/tools/mdbus2/src/argument.vala: tools: mdbus2: parse array and dict entry arguments correctly as variants May 15 16:41:40 well, seems the pictures actually missing, you said ;-) May 15 16:41:58 yeah they are handled separately by mediawiki May 15 16:42:22 last time I looked at it is probably like 3 years ago May 15 16:42:28 maybe 4 May 15 16:42:43 http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Special:MIMEsearch&mime=image%2Fjpeg&limit=500&offset=0 is the list of all images so fetching them is not difficult May 15 16:43:06 mhm May 15 16:43:16 now if only this curl wasn't there May 15 16:44:11 though... I got that on my laptop May 15 16:44:42 I can mirror it to the same dir May 15 16:45:23 curl --help makes me feel like my holiday was over and I'm at work starring at cleartool /help May 15 16:45:57 du -S ? May 15 16:46:05 err -s May 15 16:47:01 I think back when it was some dozen MB May 15 16:47:38 though a mega PITA as I used indiscriminate wget XP May 15 16:52:10 hmm, spam on the wiki front page May 15 16:53:30 * pabs3 reverts May 15 16:55:54 adding GIFs, DOCs, JPGs and PNGs soon :) May 15 16:57:12 and PDFs? May 15 16:57:35 yeah those too May 15 16:57:42 mediawiki treats all of those as Image: May 15 16:58:11 * pabs3 thought PDF/DOC would be File: May 15 16:58:45 * pabs3 crashes May 15 16:59:37 pabs3: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/1/10/Audio_presentation.pdf May 15 18:24:47 pabs3: DocScrutinizer: now also all non-text files should be mirrored. http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/mirror/wiki.openmoko.org/ May 15 20:04:14 "I been ignoring the community thread on May 15 20:04:14 ignorance – not purpose. The truth is I don't read mailing lists anymore... May 15 20:04:18 too many emails – not enough hours in the day for real work. May 15 20:04:20 " May 15 20:04:54 wtf? May 15 20:07:27 not enough time to deal with emails about openmoko, but enough time to write blog entries about the latest book he's reading? May 15 20:07:29 http://threads.moss-pultz.com/ May 15 20:07:37 there's a problem here May 15 20:08:55 well, i think sean do not count reading as work May 15 20:09:50 misc: who gives a fuck what sean considers work and what he doesn't? May 15 20:10:26 misc: svn.openmoko.org is down and has been for months May 15 20:10:53 misc: and Sean's signature is required to get it back May 15 20:11:15 this is an intolerable situation May 15 20:11:28 indeed May 15 20:11:36 have you tried a phone call ? May 15 20:12:12 why would I do that? May 15 20:12:31 becase this is some form of escalation when trying to reach someone May 15 20:15:45 the solution to the situation does not lie in reaching sean; the solution to the problem lies in ensuring that data contained within the present openmoko servers are moved to servers owned and/or administered by people who take their responsibility to the community seriously May 15 20:16:16 fuck sean May 15 20:16:23 he's obviously quite happy to fuck us May 15 20:16:57 why would he do that ? May 15 20:17:08 why would who do what? May 15 20:17:22 be happy to fuck you, and be a pain in the ass May 15 20:17:46 I don't know, he hasn't told me why May 15 20:18:05 I'd like to know myself May 15 20:18:19 yet, you think he is, even if there is no reason ? May 15 20:18:46 misc: I don't get what you're driving at May 15 20:19:03 misc: I think sean is fucking us over, yes May 15 20:19:08 misc: you think he's not? May 15 20:19:47 well, i think maybe he just do not want to think to openmoko, because he think this as a failure as he didn't manage to save the company, and he prefer to forget May 15 20:20:11 yes, that's what I suspect May 15 20:20:15 I agree the current situation is bad, and that it should be solved May 15 20:20:22 so what's your point? May 15 20:20:28 but i do not think that being angry will help May 15 20:20:42 I don't think that telling me not to be angry will help May 15 20:20:52 I'll just get angry at you May 15 20:21:12 that's right, that's why i didn't do in the first place and tried to understand your anger May 15 20:21:34 I know that's easy to say "do not be angry" cause i would have likely done the same or more May 15 20:21:48 and you already showed lots of good will, I do not deny that May 15 20:59:45 pabs3: when did you email sean? May 15 21:00:04 pabs3: in order for him to send you the email you pasted? May 15 21:00:11 pabs3: who is this paul guy? May 15 21:08:48 err May 15 21:08:53 pabs3: who is this pat guy? May 16 01:14:44 rah: zero idea who pat is. I mailed Sean 26 Apr May 16 01:17:42 I don't think it helps anyone to get angry at Sean or anyone else **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 16 03:00:01 2012