**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 20 02:59:59 2012
May 20 10:05:54 <[Rui]> hiya
May 20 12:09:31 <ayaka> GNUtoo-desktop hi, what shall i do next
May 20 12:10:06 <GNUtoo-desktop> ayaka, hi read my mail first
May 20 12:10:25 <ayaka> new mail?
May 20 12:10:40 <GNUtoo-desktop> yes I responded to "some question about kernel src"
May 20 12:10:47 <GNUtoo-desktop> I'm everywhere lol
May 20 12:11:33 <ayaka> but i wonder why I don't receive the mail i posted
May 20 12:12:25 <ayaka> I don't see it http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.msm
May 20 12:12:48 <ayaka> I got it
May 20 12:12:56 <GNUtoo-desktop> ok
May 20 12:14:14 <ayaka> I see, there is the only way left, modify kernel myself, doesn't it
May 20 12:14:28 <GNUtoo-desktop> the mainline way is a valid way
May 20 12:14:52 <GNUtoo-desktop> you can also try codeaurora kernels
May 20 12:14:59 <GNUtoo-desktop> and see if there is one for GNU/Linux
May 20 12:15:07 <GNUtoo-desktop> with support for shooteru
May 20 12:16:28 <GNUtoo-desktop> btw there should be a ##linux-msm channel
May 20 12:16:42 <GNUtoo-desktop> ah you're already there
May 20 12:21:29 <ayaka> GNUtoo-desktop do you have any books recommand
May 20 12:26:55 <GNUtoo-desktop> bbl
May 20 12:27:00 <GNUtoo-desktop> for kernel hacking
May 20 12:27:07 <GNUtoo-desktop> or for embedded stuff?
May 20 12:31:30 <ayaka> kernel hacking
May 20 12:32:13 <ayaka> becuase what I can do is  only that  modify kernel myself
May 20 12:52:02 <GNUtoo-desktop> hmmm personally I learnt the hard way without any books
May 20 12:52:09 <GNUtoo-desktop> by fixing bugs
May 20 12:52:42 <GNUtoo-desktop> s/learnt/began/
May 20 12:52:54 <GNUtoo-desktop> *started
May 20 12:54:59 <ayaka> GNUtoo-desktop isee, but i am not as clever as you
May 20 12:55:02 <GNUtoo-desktop> maybe ask in the #kernelnewbies channels on oftc
May 20 12:55:15 <GNUtoo-desktop> I'm not that clever, I just have some experience
May 20 12:55:38 <ayaka> i know that channel, btw, do you think it need good math knoedge
May 20 12:55:56 <GNUtoo-desktop> I don't think so
May 20 12:56:05 <GNUtoo-desktop> apart basic maths
May 20 12:56:17 <GNUtoo-desktop> like shift or hex
May 20 12:56:45 <GNUtoo-desktop> but for hex you can use python interpreter to calculate it for you
May 20 12:57:04 <GNUtoo-desktop> and since the driver are already written you may not need that
May 20 12:57:15 <GNUtoo-desktop> you need to know C tough, at least some part of it
May 20 12:57:37 <GNUtoo-desktop> and to have some concepts like interupts
May 20 12:58:04 <GNUtoo-desktop> if you have to debug stuff that freeze your device for instance
May 20 12:58:15 <GNUtoo-desktop> it all depend on what you'll have to do
May 20 12:58:41 <ayaka> yes, i have laernt k&r and some others part
May 20 12:58:51 <GNUtoo-desktop> ok good
May 20 12:59:16 <GNUtoo-desktop> big warning: the code of your shooteru kernel is very very very dirty
May 20 12:59:28 <GNUtoo-desktop> mainline kernel code is much much cleaner
May 20 13:01:38 <ayaka> I know, htc even use the kernel_lock
May 20 13:02:15 <ayaka> I wonder whether it is 2.6.35 time
May 20 13:02:29 <GNUtoo-desktop> I don't remember
May 20 13:04:55 <ayaka> you can use grep to show it
May 20 13:05:13 <GNUtoo-desktop> yes but I'm currently doing sometihng else
May 20 13:05:17 <GNUtoo-desktop> I'm reading the diff
May 20 13:06:29 <ayaka> I see, thank you GNUtoo-desktop
May 20 13:17:58 <GNUtoo-desktop> androidboot.emmc=true
May 20 13:18:03 <GNUtoo-desktop> did you see that?
May 20 13:18:25 <GNUtoo-desktop> androidboot.mode=normal
May 20 13:18:28 <GNUtoo-desktop> etc...
May 20 13:21:17 <GNUtoo-desktop> ayaka, ^^^
May 20 13:21:19 <ayaka> I see
May 20 13:21:33 <GNUtoo-desktop> that are stuff passed to the kernel
May 20 13:21:37 <GNUtoo-desktop> the kernel recognize it
May 20 13:21:46 <GNUtoo-desktop> trough that:
May 20 13:21:47 <GNUtoo-desktop> +__setup("androidboot.emmc=", board_set_emmc_tag);
May 20 13:21:58 <ayaka> but i don't know what are they used for, in the diff, there are some if sentences
May 20 13:22:22 <GNUtoo-desktop> then it get into the variable board_set_emmc_tag
May 20 13:22:30 <GNUtoo-desktop> you should check board_set_emmc_tag
May 20 13:22:43 <ayaka> GNUtoo-desktop I have tried to off it , it seems no use
May 20 13:22:55 <ayaka> back in a few minutes
May 20 13:25:04 <GNUtoo-desktop> ah it's the radio partitions
May 20 13:26:00 <GNUtoo-desktop> maybe the androidboot.mode then
May 20 13:50:00 <ayaka> I see, I have got some info in src, but all is about thr radio
May 20 13:53:44 <GNUtoo-desktop> ayaka, your device is fastboot compatible?
May 20 13:53:56 <GNUtoo-desktop> how do you boot a kernel exactly?
May 20 13:54:03 <GNUtoo-desktop> like what commands do you type?
May 20 13:54:20 <ayaka> yes, you have known tit in maillist
May 20 13:54:42 <ayaka> root=/dev/mmcblk1p2 rw rootwait noinitrd
May 20 13:55:01 <ayaka> init=/sbin/init and that
May 20 13:55:11 <GNUtoo-desktop> no
May 20 13:55:21 <GNUtoo-desktop> like fastboot boot zImage
May 20 13:55:49 <GNUtoo-desktop> for instance fastboot flash recovery zImage.fastboot
May 20 13:55:52 <GNUtoo-desktop> or boot.img
May 20 13:57:01 <ayaka> for fastboot , ./fastboot boot bootimgname
May 20 13:57:17 <GNUtoo-desktop> bootimgname os a bootimg or a zImage?
May 20 13:57:36 <ayaka> I have tired ./fastboot flash recovery bootimgname
May 20 13:57:52 <GNUtoo-desktop> and did it boot debian?
May 20 13:58:14 <ayaka> no, the bootimg is made by abooimg which include kernel(gzip) and fale empty initramfs
May 20 13:58:42 <ayaka> if the kernel without config_vt, it boots debian
May 20 13:59:31 <GNUtoo-desktop> ok
May 20 14:00:33 <ayaka> the fastboot is google version, i cannot run auotgem.sh in free version
May 20 14:01:37 <GNUtoo-desktop> ayaka, there is a free replicant version too
May 20 14:02:08 <GNUtoo-desktop> ayaka, can you create a kernel with +CONFIG_VT and only that as diff
May 20 14:02:13 <GNUtoo-desktop> not the following:
May 20 14:02:25 <ayaka> oh, I only tried the one in SHR
May 20 14:02:50 <GNUtoo-desktop> +CONFIG_CONSOLE_TRANSLATIONS=y
May 20 14:02:51 <GNUtoo-desktop> etc...
May 20 14:03:09 <GNUtoo-desktop> remove all the rest and keep console_vt
May 20 14:03:23 <GNUtoo-desktop> or said in another way:
May 20 14:03:41 <GNUtoo-desktop> the diff between working and the one you will test will have only CONFIG_VT
May 20 14:03:48 <GNUtoo-desktop> as difference
May 20 14:05:02 <ayaka> I see, only enable config_vt, not CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE, no framebuffer console?
May 20 14:05:13 <GNUtoo-desktop> yes
May 20 14:05:28 <GNUtoo-desktop> the diff should only show +CONFIG_VT
May 20 14:05:45 <GNUtoo-desktop> that's in order to restrict the research area
May 20 14:05:49 <ayaka> I see, i will try it in 3 days
May 20 14:05:54 <GNUtoo-desktop> ok
May 20 14:08:25 <ayaka> and I will try replican version of fastboot
May 20 14:10:39 <GNUtoo-desktop> ok, it's the same than android but free
May 20 14:11:23 <ayaka> it is not different ?
May 20 14:11:37 <GNUtoo-desktop> not much
May 20 14:15:29 <ayaka> i see, but i noitce a problem, if i don't plug in power line, even testA can't mount rootfs
May 20 14:16:12 <GNUtoo-desktop> ok
May 20 15:52:51 <GNUtoo-desktop> ok, poll is too fast
May 20 15:52:56 <GNUtoo-desktop> with alsaloop
May 20 15:53:04 <GNUtoo-desktop> case 1:
May 20 15:53:17 <GNUtoo-desktop> nothing arrive from modem => poll takes 30ms maximum
May 20 15:53:32 <GNUtoo-desktop> I meant about 30ms maximum
May 20 15:53:40 <GNUtoo-desktop> minimum is 0
May 20 15:53:45 <GNUtoo-desktop> case 2:
May 20 15:54:40 <GNUtoo-desktop> modem is in a call => poll takes about 300000us
May 20 15:54:44 <GNUtoo-desktop> s/ms/us/g
May 20 15:55:03 <GNUtoo-desktop> so 30 to 300000
May 20 17:20:41 <GNUtoo-desktop> mdbus2 org.enlightenment.wm.service /org/enlightenment/wm/RemoteObject org.enlightenment.wm.Profile.Set illume2-shr #how to fix the desktop in lastest images
May 20 18:48:04 <jake42> GNUtoo-desktop: what problem does it fix?
May 20 18:49:46 <GNUtoo-desktop> if you have autorev + build youself the images the wizard crashes
May 20 18:49:57 <GNUtoo-desktop> leaving you with a problematic config
May 20 18:50:05 <GNUtoo-desktop> without topbar
May 20 18:50:11 <GNUtoo-desktop> but with a menu
May 20 18:50:19 <GNUtoo-desktop> when you click you have a menu
May 20 19:03:25 <jake42> i see. i'm only using the images from buildhost, so i didn't see that behavior
May 20 20:17:10 <GNUtoo-desktop> hmmm
May 20 20:17:11 <GNUtoo-desktop> http://pastie.org/private/gwylhbjhswijjmtvzlfutg
May 20 20:32:51 <aloniv> my freerunner keeps switching itself on when off...how do i disable this?
May 20 20:33:17 <aloniv> i'm guessing because i put an alarm in qtmoko...
May 20 20:40:35 <GNUtoo-desktop> aloniv, do you have something connected to it like a power supply or usb cable?
May 20 20:45:03 <aloniv> no...
May 20 20:45:12 <GNUtoo-desktop> then it may be an alarm
May 20 20:45:27 <aloniv> yeah but how do i disable it?
May 20 20:45:35 <GNUtoo-desktop> I've no idea
May 20 20:45:36 <aloniv> (the alarm isn't on...)
May 20 20:45:36 <GNUtoo-desktop> sorry
May 20 20:45:39 <GNUtoo-desktop> ah ok
May 20 20:45:46 <GNUtoo-desktop> I don't know then, sorry
May 20 20:46:07 <aloniv> i was thinking it was a reminder i put but deleting it doesn't solve it...
May 20 20:46:14 <GNUtoo-desktop> hmmm
May 20 20:46:21 <GNUtoo-desktop> I don't even use qtmoko
May 20 20:46:39 <aloniv> even when i removed sd card it still switched on :(
May 20 20:48:09 <aloniv> so i'm guessing the alarm put something in the bootloader (or somehwere else) that needs to be removed...
May 20 20:48:14 <aloniv> *somewhere
May 20 20:48:47 <yann> GNUtoo-desktop: the question is rather, is there some hardware support in gta02 for "wake up at XXXX time" ?
May 20 20:49:03 <GNUtoo-desktop> yann, yes of course there is
May 20 20:49:13 <GNUtoo-desktop> there is even a command that does it
May 20 20:49:21 <GNUtoo-desktop> I don't remember it but lindi- knows
May 20 20:50:23 <yann> lindi- mentionned "om resume-reason", but I'm not sure that will help in the "wake up from halted state" situation
May 20 20:51:29 <GNUtoo-desktop> not that
May 20 20:51:38 <GNUtoo-desktop> he did a script for testing suspend/resume
May 20 20:51:50 <GNUtoo-desktop> look in his website
May 20 20:52:38 <yann> does our "of course there is" still applies for the "wake up from halted state" situation ?
May 20 20:52:46 <lindi-> yann: yeah if you suspend the phone then om resume-reason can tell you why it woke up
May 20 20:53:16 <yann> lindi-: but aloniv's phone is halted, not suspended, if I understand correctly
May 20 20:54:01 <lindi-> yann: yeah but he could suspend it instead to get useful data
May 20 20:55:41 <aloniv> the phone is usually suspended but at night i prefer switching it completely off...
May 20 20:57:03 <aloniv> i was thinking at first the phone switched off due to battery moving (or something similar)...
May 20 20:58:24 <aloniv> anyway if i reinstall everything (e.g. internal memory, bootloader) will this clear any such data relating to reminders/alarms?
May 20 21:20:27 <aloniv> thanks everyone for your help. hopefully tomorrow i won't wake up after my freerunners :)
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