**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 13 02:59:58 2012 Jun 13 09:25:24 heyho Jun 13 09:34:24 heyho Jun 13 09:36:16 JaMa|Off: you got my message yesterday about the GTA04A4 and working fsogsmd= Jun 13 09:36:20 s/=/?/ Jun 13 09:36:20 morphis meant: JaMa|Off: you got my message yesterday about the GTA04A4 and working fsogsmd? Jun 13 09:36:39 yes and even replied on it Jun 13 09:36:46 19:27:16 < JaMa|Off> weird, but good Jun 13 09:36:46 19:27:25 < JaMa|Off> btw any luck with multilib chroot? Jun 13 09:37:06 I will check multilib today Jun 13 09:37:09 but even after -force-reinstall of updated components it doesn't work on mine Jun 13 09:37:18 will try to reflash when I find some time.. Jun 13 09:38:23 yes maybe something else is wrong Jun 13 09:38:41 if we find this problem on some other device too I think we should try to get more details for it Jun 13 09:38:57 some stale packages like libgsm0710mux0 and libfsotransport2 were still around, but I guess that fsogsmd should always find the right (latest version of .so libs) Jun 13 09:39:25 yes Jun 13 09:39:35 just a old lowlevel_gta04.so is bad Jun 13 09:39:43 as thats the only relevant thing for the powerup Jun 13 09:39:53 it does only some sysfs related stuff Jun 13 09:40:07 nothing transport or real GSM related Jun 13 09:41:40 yes this one was reinstalled with fsogsmd and is linked to libgsm0710mux.so.2 libfsotransport.so.3 so looks good Jun 13 09:41:49 really? Jun 13 09:42:00 it should not link against gsm0710mux or libfsotransport Jun 13 09:42:53 http://paste.debian.net/174257/ Jun 13 09:43:48 and .la file in sysroot is matching that Jun 13 09:43:49 dependency_libs=' =/usr/lib/cornucopia/modules/fsogsm/libfsogsm.la =/usr/lib/libgsm0710mux.la =/usr/lib/libgsm0710.la =/usr/lib/libfsotransport.la =/usr/lib/libgsm0710.la =/usr/lib/libfsosystem.la =/usr/lib/libfsotransport.la -lutil =/usr/lib/libfsoresource.la =/usr/lib/libfsoframework.la =/usr/lib/libfso-glib.la =/usr/lib/libfsoframework.la =/usr/lib/libgee.la =/usr/lib/libfsobasics.la =/usr/lib/libgee.la -lelf =/usr/lib/libfso-glib.la =/usr/lib/ Jun 13 09:45:23 hm ok, it uses $(FSO_LIBS) which is nearly everything complete fsogsmd needs Jun 13 09:46:51 maybe we need something like LDFLAGS="-Wl,--as-needed" Jun 13 09:52:09 JaMa|Off: I thought about adding meta-ti to our layer index as well Jun 13 09:52:24 right now I copied the relevant recipes for omap3-sgx-modules to meta-openmoko Jun 13 09:52:38 JaMa|Off: what do you think? Jun 13 09:56:45 have to reboot ... Jun 13 10:19:42 I'm fine with omap3-sgx-modules copy for now Jun 13 10:26:56 JaMa|Off: ok Jun 13 13:26:09 morphis, hi Jun 13 13:30:41 morphis, Jun 13 13:30:51 1) the powervr doesn't work on the gta04 Jun 13 13:30:59 2) do you want to loose all our users Jun 13 13:31:06 or potential users Jun 13 13:31:25 3) I won't participate anymore in SHR if it contains proprietary software Jun 13 13:32:27 for 2) what do you think our target audience is? Jun 13 13:33:13 who is ever going to buy a gta04 that cost from 600E to 800E, and that is way worse than a phone found in stores, if not for freedom reasons? Jun 13 13:39:55 4) what software is ever going to take advantage of it? none? Jun 13 13:53:32 GNUtoo-desktop: calm down, I don't want to integrate anything into SHR Jun 13 13:53:52 I am just playing with the hardware I have available Jun 13 13:54:25 so where is the problem if I add binary blobs if they don't end up in the official images? Jun 13 13:58:59 ok Jun 13 13:59:12 the problem is that they could get into the feeds Jun 13 13:59:39 and we don't have different feeds for free and non-free Jun 13 13:59:43 so no way to choose Jun 13 13:59:58 use case: you install QT or something like that Jun 13 14:00:04 and you get sgx Jun 13 14:00:22 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07morphis/hfp * r037b517270d6 10cornucopia/fsogsmd/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fsogsmd: modem_hfp_hf: uses dbus file descriptor passing feature for org.blue.HandsfreeAgent interface Jun 13 14:00:37 btw crespo's modem is ultra instable Jun 13 14:00:40 yes, but if I just add the recipe and no feed recipe is pulling it in, there is no problem Jun 13 14:00:44 fsogsmd restarts all the time Jun 13 14:00:51 maybe I didn't looked at it for a long time Jun 13 14:01:01 then why can't you add it in an extra layer? Jun 13 14:01:09 that SHR official images don't activate Jun 13 14:01:28 I can, I asked JaMa if I should use meta-ti Jun 13 14:01:34 ok Jun 13 14:01:40 but for crespo we already have this case Jun 13 14:01:47 we're pulling in WiFi firmware Jun 13 14:01:58 a firmware and a driver is very different Jun 13 14:02:06 the firmware runs on the wifi card Jun 13 14:02:26 the driver runs on the main CPU, where you do all your computing, where there are ssh keys etc... Jun 13 14:02:55 you know I am a pragmatist, don't lets discuss such things Jun 13 14:03:01 I will add it to another layer Jun 13 14:03:07 ok thanks a lot!!!! Jun 13 14:03:25 (when I add it anytime soon) Jun 13 14:03:30 ok Jun 13 14:03:32 maybe it stays unmodified in meta-ti Jun 13 14:04:14 GNUtoo-desktop: first you talked about freedom and then you switched to security :) Jun 13 14:04:40 lindi-, for me having the control of your computer is freedom Jun 13 14:04:43 GNUtoo-desktop: for me wifi firmware is still different but not "very different" Jun 13 14:04:55 the problem is DMA Jun 13 14:05:33 GNUtoo-desktop: your wifi chip probably gets your wifi keys Jun 13 14:05:35 freedom and personal security are related somehow tough in computer Jun 13 14:05:42 lindi-, with DMA? Jun 13 14:05:49 ah sorry Jun 13 14:05:52 wifi keys Jun 13 14:05:56 I don't use wifi keys Jun 13 14:06:59 GNUtoo-desktop: only unencrypted wifi? Jun 13 14:07:04 yes Jun 13 14:07:15 altough I can encrypt it with openvpn if I want Jun 13 14:07:25 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07morphis/hfp * r70c2952756b9 10cornucopia/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_hfp_hf/plugin.vala: fsogsmd: modem_hfp_hf: register bluetooth profile already on modem creation Jun 13 14:07:38 but what's the point if internet is monitored anyway Jun 13 14:07:42 GNUtoo-desktop: not very practicaly unfortunately Jun 13 14:10:58 I'd be more concerned about rootkit in gsm chip, which tends to have dma access too Jun 13 14:11:04 also hi Jun 13 14:12:33 GNUtoo-desktop: after some bootloader hackery and moving from hardspl to dangerspl I got the G1 to boot into droid again. Haven't tested SHR yet though Jun 13 14:13:11 hopefully I'll get to it during the week - would love to have working gnu/linux system on it Jun 13 14:13:31 ccxCZ, we were talking about gta04, the gta04 modem is connected differently Jun 13 14:13:46 yeah Jun 13 14:14:05 ccxCZ, ok, once you get shr-unstable working, you could try to port it to shr-core Jun 13 14:15:22 there were some issues with sleep/wakeup. hopefully just unrecognised power button Jun 13 14:15:34 yes Jun 13 14:15:42 changing the bootloader created that Jun 13 14:18:11 I guess no one uses the engineering/hard spl anymore, not even the stock droid, atleast that's what I think after discovering sizes of my nandroid images of the original system Jun 13 14:18:36 ok Jun 13 14:18:52 that's probably the reason it didn't boot too, otherwise hardspl is supposed to be pretty much identical to the original engineering one Jun 13 14:19:23 I don't know well the names but the one derived from htc magic gives more space to system if I remember well Jun 13 14:20:12 that's danger aka haryuko Jun 13 14:20:28 and that's what I have now, w/ CM6 Jun 13 14:20:44 ok Jun 13 14:30:45 JaMa|Off: multilib branch works fine Jun 13 15:12:24 morphis: hi, have seen my bugreport-email? Jun 13 15:12:31 jake42_: yes Jun 13 15:15:05 jake42_: can you please try again to register at trac.freesmartphone.org? Jun 13 15:15:17 morphis: sure Jun 13 15:17:14 morphis: works, tnx Jun 13 15:17:27 great Jun 13 15:17:35 wow we have 10225 trac users :) Jun 13 20:26:12 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * rcad4bb76cedb 10/ (19 files in 6 dirs): bitbake upgrade Jun 13 20:26:13 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r9a6c12b92f81 10/ (186 files in 22 dirs): system upgrade Jun 13 20:26:14 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * rce0a328a9756 10/ (1306 files in 114 dirs): switvched to multilib profile to provide 32bit glibc Jun 13 21:20:37 dos1: I've added shr-2012.01 and fixed shr-unstable image URLs in that jquery downloader.. Jun 13 21:35:55 JaMa|Off: thanks Jun 13 21:36:10 sorry for being unavailable Jun 13 21:36:35 i'm having fscking difficult time recently Jun 13 23:34:05 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r2ba45af2452e 10/packages/ (33 files in 33 dirs): packages: Build 201206140021 of shr 20120613 for machine om-gta02 on opmbuild Jun 14 00:11:00 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r8f3db5df54c5 10/packages/ (33 files in 33 dirs): packages: Build 201206140144 of shr 20120613 for machine nokia900 on opmbuild Jun 14 00:44:37 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * re0c0f111c2de 10/packages/om_gta04-oe-linux-gnueabi/shr-version/ (latest shr-version/latest): packages: Build 201206140220 of shr 20120614 for machine om-gta04 on opmbuild Jun 14 01:03:37 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r2a226b311660 10/images/crespo/eglibc/chroot-image/ (build-id image-info.txt installed-package-sizes.txt): images: Build 201206140246 of shr 20120614 for machine crespo on opmbuild Jun 14 01:03:47 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rbfd66e9f65eb 10/packages/crespo-oe-linux-gnueabi/shr-version/ (latest shr-version/latest): packages: Build 201206140246 of shr 20120614 for machine crespo on opmbuild Jun 14 01:29:18 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rdb25de14d900 10/packages/palmpre-oe-linux-gnueabi/shr-version/ (latest shr-version/latest): packages: Build 201206140312 of shr 20120614 for machine palmpre on opmbuild Jun 14 01:55:38 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * reb40b23bd460 10/packages/palmpre2-oe-linux-gnueabi/shr-version/ (latest shr-version/latest): packages: Build 201206140339 of shr 20120614 for machine palmpre2 on opmbuild **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jun 14 02:59:58 2012