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Jul 23 06:59:46 <CIA-69> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * rbc2035b81be0 10/ (200 files in 23 dirs): system upgrade
Jul 23 12:25:32 <GNUtoo> hi
Jul 23 12:26:02 <GNUtoo> I'm doing the 3.5 kernel for the gta02 right now and it seems that my only regulator a dummy one
Jul 23 12:26:21 <GNUtoo> could the pcf something be the cause of that?
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Jul 23 14:17:29 <GNUtoo> larsc, hi
Jul 23 14:17:33 <GNUtoo> JaMa, hi
Jul 23 14:17:54 <GNUtoo> what is that patch for:
Jul 23 14:17:55 <GNUtoo> MFD: pcf50633: Use the genirq for irq handling
Jul 23 14:18:12 <GNUtoo> is it something that I absolutely need?
Jul 23 14:18:55 <GNUtoo> because if I revert it in 3.5 the regulator work
Jul 23 14:19:11 <GNUtoo> but I forward-ported it badly also....so....
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Jul 23 14:22:09 <GNUtoo> maybe I should just remove it?
Jul 23 14:26:10 <JaMa> GNUtoo: iirc in some version API was changed so pcf50633 had to be changed to use new APIs
Jul 23 14:29:48 <JaMa> GNUtoo: isn't the issue only wrong defconfig (missing genirq or something like that)?
Jul 23 14:29:57 <GNUtoo> JaMa, ah but it works without that patch
Jul 23 14:30:30 <GNUtoo> that is to say the glamo lcd appear, bluetooth appear in /sys/class/rfkill....
Jul 23 14:30:47 <GNUtoo> the regulators are in /sys/class/regulators....
Jul 23 14:30:48 <GNUtoo> etc...
Jul 23 14:46:16 <GNUtoo> hmmm
Jul 23 14:46:18 <GNUtoo> it's needed
Jul 23 14:46:19 <GNUtoo> [    1.290000] genirq: Threaded irq requested with handler=NULL and !ONESHOT for irq 92
Jul 23 14:46:19 <GNUtoo> [    1.300000] glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: failed to register irq.
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Jul 23 18:20:48 <nschle85> JaMa: hello Martin, I am planning to upgrade jenkins server to ubuntu 21.04 LTS, in best case its working as before in worst case it will not boot anymore. Before upgrade I'll hopefully backup  the jenkins settings. Should i backup your home directory too ? and have you planned some releases, so jenkins is needed for control builds ? If so I ll do the upgrade later.
Jul 23 18:21:13 <nschle85> ups s/21.04/12.04/g :-)
Jul 23 18:23:09 <GNUtoo> I found the bug at the end
Jul 23 18:55:09 <mrmoku> JaMa: ping
Jul 23 19:19:58 <JaMa> nschle85: feel free to do it and no need for backup
Jul 23 19:20:24 <JaMa> nschle85: I was doing some rebuilds from scratch to test some bigger changes, but no release or other big changes in my queue
Jul 23 19:20:28 <JaMa> mrmoku: hungry pong
Jul 23 19:21:15 <nschle85> JaMa: ok
Jul 23 19:24:11 <mrmoku> JaMa: nah, eat first :-)
Jul 23 19:37:25 <JaMa> mrmoku: ready to read&eat :)
Jul 23 19:41:35 <mrmoku> JaMa: I take a look at fso-raw yesterday... it seems to have a problem that it does not exit anymore and thus keeps the resource occupied
Jul 23 19:41:50 <mrmoku> and I don't understand how that could happen as
Jul 23 19:41:56 <mrmoku> a) fso-raw is very simple
Jul 23 19:42:08 <mrmoku> b) it did not change in that area
Jul 23 19:42:35 <mrmoku> so my guess what be more either toolchain (it is calling wait to get notified when the child exits)
Jul 23 19:42:42 <mrmoku> or vala (as usual ;)
Jul 23 19:43:00 <mrmoku> s/what/would/
Jul 23 19:43:15 <mrmoku> s/take/took/
Jul 23 19:43:25 <mrmoku> gah got out of practice writing in english :-P
Jul 23 19:44:26 <JaMa> :)
Jul 23 19:45:14 <JaMa> someone reported it also related to navit which after quit keeps 2 processes running (one is bash wrapper and second is fsoraw still holding resources :/)
Jul 23 19:46:41 <mrmoku> hmm... so if a bash wrapper does not exit nicely as well... then it might *not* be vala this time :-P
Jul 23 19:47:15 <JaMa> no bash wrapper just calls fso-raw so it's waiting for fso-raw to exit
Jul 23 19:47:23 <mrmoku> ahh ok
Jul 23 19:47:36 <JaMa> it was just confusing reporter and now I've confused you too :)
Jul 23 19:47:43 <mrmoku> hehe yeah
Jul 23 19:48:20 <mrmoku> on the other hand if posix wait would be broken somehow that should have more visible effect, no?
Jul 23 19:49:29 <JaMa> I guess so
Jul 23 19:50:15 <mrmoku> ok, I still have to try on the device itself... just tried on my laptop and there fso-raw did not hang
Jul 23 19:50:35 <nschle85> JaMa: as i can see  some jenkins projects are  still failing... so ill wait until its fixed ?
Jul 23 19:50:41 * mrmoku searches a battery ...
Jul 23 19:52:32 <nschle85> JaMa: i hav enough other tasks like compiling openjdk 7 for windows 7 :-)
Jul 23 19:52:35 <mrmoku> ohh, what happened to the boot screen :-P
Jul 23 19:57:28 <mrmoku> and still no icons on reboot ;-)
Jul 23 19:58:17 <JaMa> nschle85: you can abort it
Jul 23 19:58:25 <nschle85> mrmoku: its a very strange error, we should  spend some money for the one who can solve it :-)
Jul 23 19:58:35 <mrmoku> TAsn: ping... I read in the backlog that you complained about not being notified about enlightenment bugs? ;-)
Jul 23 19:58:43 <mrmoku> nschle85: or ask the right people :-P
Jul 23 19:58:47 <JaMa> mrmoku: I have newer EFL here again :)
Jul 23 19:58:54 <mrmoku> hehe
Jul 23 19:59:29 <JaMa> mrmoku: EFL libs should be frozen now and released at the end of month and then e17 and single source tree :)
Jul 23 19:59:44 <nschle85> mrmoku: please visit the bug entry,  i tryed to escalade the problem....
Jul 23 20:00:25 <mrmoku> JaMa: ok, good
Jul 23 20:00:39 <mrmoku> nschle85: maybe escalation was the wrong tactic :-P
Jul 23 20:00:52 <mrmoku> nschle85: what ticket is it?
Jul 23 20:01:16 <nschle85> mrmoku: it can be found on the most staging tests ....
Jul 23 20:01:23 <nschle85> mrmoku: please wait
Jul 23 20:01:26 <JaMa> #1491
Jul 23 20:02:43 <JaMa> mrmoku: btw what do you think about #2018? I can remove it pretty easily, but I wasn't able to reproduce that problem (it loaded firmware right for me with both udev and fsosystemd installed)
Jul 23 20:02:58 <mrmoku> both shr trac?
Jul 23 20:03:12 <mrmoku> yup
Jul 23 20:04:16 <mrmoku> JaMa: I don't think we will try to get rid of udev again... do we? :P
Jul 23 20:04:31 <mrmoku> so just remove it... causing problems or not... we don't need it anymore
Jul 23 20:05:52 <JaMa> well my bootchart graphs show some extra delay again, but right, probably not worth it now
Jul 23 20:06:05 <JaMa> as long as there are bigger issues then few ms on boot
Jul 23 20:06:31 <mrmoku> nschle85: you should have told them about illume2
Jul 23 20:06:36 <mrmoku> TAsn: PING ;-)
Jul 23 20:07:04 <nschle85> JaMa: mrmoku: i cannot follow , but are you talking about removing udev ? 
Jul 23 20:07:25 <mrmoku> nschle85: no
Jul 23 20:07:39 <mrmoku> nschle85: about removing the firmware loader I did
Jul 23 20:07:46 <mrmoku> when we were trying to get rid of udev
Jul 23 20:08:09 <mrmoku> now that 
Jul 23 20:08:13 <mrmoku> a) udev got a lot faster
Jul 23 20:08:21 <mrmoku> b) udev is quite bundled with systemd
Jul 23 20:08:37 <mrmoku> it is not very realistic to get rid of it
Jul 23 20:12:36 <mrmoku> hmm... interesting
Jul 23 20:12:48 <mrmoku> fso-raw -r CPU ls
Jul 23 20:12:52 <mrmoku> reloads the icons too :-P
Jul 23 20:13:51 <JaMa> heh even more cool then wrench icon :)
Jul 23 20:14:17 <mrmoku> huh
Jul 23 20:14:22 <mrmoku> and journalctl aborts
Jul 23 20:15:06 <mrmoku> I see... you kept some bugs for my return :-P
Jul 23 20:15:44 <nschle85> mrmoku: JaMa: is always telling me that he does not have that kind of icon problem...    so as i know he is not installing his images like "normal users" dodo
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Jul 23 20:17:13 <nschle85> s/dodo/do/g   kvirk still has a problem in ubuntu...
Jul 23 20:17:20 <JaMa> nschle85: I've seen it few times lately too
Jul 23 20:18:30 <JaMa> and I was trying to reproduce #1548, I know I've seen it many times accidentaly, but when I was trying to reproduce it again it never happens, do you know about some special way to move icons every time?
Jul 23 20:18:46 <nschle85> JaMa: you can see it a few times but any other people can reproduce it 100%, strange :-)
Jul 23 20:19:34 <JaMa> nschle85: if it's race condition then uSD speed can influence it a lot..
Jul 23 20:21:59 <nschle85> JaMa: i dont hope its a race condition ... because its hard to debug :-(
Jul 23 20:24:07 <GNUtoo> mrmoku, hi again
Jul 23 20:24:27 * GNUtoo has to fix the glamo now
Jul 23 20:24:39 <GNUtoo> glamo-mci does EINVAL on microsd voltage
Jul 23 20:24:49 <mrmoku> hi GNUtoo 
Jul 23 20:25:04 <GNUtoo> mmc1: error -22 whilst initialising SDIO card
Jul 23 20:25:05 <nschle85> mrmoku: who is the right  guy to talk about icon problem ?
Jul 23 20:25:19 <GNUtoo> nschle85, which icon problem?
Jul 23 20:25:29 <mrmoku> nschle85: I will ask TAsn what to do
Jul 23 20:25:35 <GNUtoo> the ones where the icons move?
Jul 23 20:25:45 <mrmoku> no the ones not appearing :)
Jul 23 20:25:59 <mrmoku> btw. what happened to the boot screen?
Jul 23 20:26:32 <JaMa> what's wrong with it?
Jul 23 20:26:42 <JaMa> no boot screen at all?
Jul 23 20:26:43 <nschle85> mrmoku: i asked TAsn:  already about it... 
Jul 23 20:26:50 <GNUtoo> open tickets.....
Jul 23 20:27:01 <mrmoku> nschle85: ok
Jul 23 20:27:20 <mrmoku> JaMa: it's just a tiny small SHR logo in the middle that is left
Jul 23 20:28:03 <mrmoku> hmm... now I tried to move the icons directly after a reboot... I got eight of them and the spinner still running and refusing to load the rest... strange
Jul 23 20:28:23 <mrmoku> after refreshing the view all fine as usual
Jul 23 20:28:25 <nschle85> mrmoku: and he told me thats a known problem.. and we have to change to a  different desktop manager   .... but i have to look in my logs what he was telling meme .
Jul 23 20:29:04 <mrmoku> hmm
Jul 23 20:29:24 <mrmoku> so illume2 is obsolete too now?
Jul 23 20:29:29 <mrmoku> or just the illume home screen?
Jul 23 20:30:18 <GNUtoo> hi,
Jul 23 20:30:19 <GNUtoo> [    2.910000] mmc1: host doesn't support card's voltages
Jul 23 20:30:24 <GNUtoo> how to handle that ^^^
Jul 23 20:30:51 <GNUtoo> should I ignore it?
Jul 23 20:31:15 <GNUtoo> or is something wrong with glamo(beside the usual things that glamo is wrong per se)
Jul 23 20:32:32 <GNUtoo> http://pastie.org/private/dzjp0ea2gm8hds4nyze5a 
Jul 23 20:32:35 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: doing the fso-raw -r CPU ls thing has some strange side-effects for me
Jul 23 20:32:40 <mrmoku> it reloads the desktop
Jul 23 20:33:12 <GNUtoo> mrmoku, yes it's possible
Jul 23 20:33:25 <GNUtoo> mrmoku, it's not fso-raw per se
Jul 23 20:33:31 <GNUtoo> but instead the request of resource
Jul 23 20:33:45 <GNUtoo> because in the power menu
Jul 23 20:33:51 <GNUtoo> it does the same
Jul 23 20:33:57 <GNUtoo> the one when pressing the power button
Jul 23 20:34:05 <mrmoku> hmm... should not though 
Jul 23 20:34:06 <GNUtoo> when you want to prevent it from going into suspend
Jul 23 20:34:12 <GNUtoo> it reloads the desktop
Jul 23 20:34:17 <GNUtoo> same with iliwi sometimes
Jul 23 20:34:28 <nschle85> mrmoku: strange, i cannot find tasn in my logfiles but iam sure i talked to him within last 2 weeks !
Jul 23 20:35:00 <mrmoku> he's a very secret man... got removed from your logs remotely via some java backdoor :-P
Jul 23 20:50:15 <nschle85> mrmoku: hmm ill grep the official logs  ... and send you the result. (kvirk is written in C++ and QT so no java backdor...)
Jul 23 20:51:12 <mrmoku> nschle85: the backdoor is not in kvirk ;-)
Jul 23 20:52:07 <nschle85> mrmoku: javavm is not running  yet.
Jul 23 20:52:54 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: hmm... no modules I have on gta04... is that normal?
Jul 23 20:52:57 <mrmoku> nschle85: :-P
Jul 23 20:53:43 <JaMa> mrmoku: run depmod -a manually
Jul 23 20:54:18 <JaMa> opkg upgrade of kernel or some module should do that for you, but on fresh image there isn't modules.dep :/
Jul 23 20:54:33 <mrmoku> JaMa: just tried that... gives me a missing modules.order + modules.builtin error
Jul 23 20:54:46 <JaMa> it caused #2041 too
Jul 23 20:54:54 <mrmoku> ahh, that's just a warning
Jul 23 20:54:54 <JaMa> that's not fatal (order+builtin)
Jul 23 20:55:15 <mrmoku> yeah, ok
Jul 23 20:55:36 <GNUtoo> mrmoku, depends
Jul 23 20:55:47 <GNUtoo> mrmoku, if you flashed on NAND yes
Jul 23 20:55:49 <GNUtoo> else no
Jul 23 20:56:06 <mrmoku> no NAND involved
Jul 23 20:56:13 <GNUtoo> so it's not normal
Jul 23 20:56:24 <GNUtoo> no modules loaded?
Jul 23 20:56:28 <GNUtoo> or no modules at all?
Jul 23 20:56:38 * mrmoku rebooting after depmod -a
Jul 23 20:56:47 <GNUtoo> what did depmod -a say?
Jul 23 20:57:03 <mrmoku> it warned about missing modules.order + modules.builtin
Jul 23 20:57:06 <GNUtoo> because I touch some files
Jul 23 20:57:09 <GNUtoo> indeed
Jul 23 20:57:11 <GNUtoo> I touch that
Jul 23 20:57:14 <GNUtoo> and re-depmod -a
Jul 23 20:57:16 <mrmoku> and on reboot networkmanager tries to connect :-)
Jul 23 20:57:23 <mrmoku> so just no modules have been loaded
Jul 23 20:57:37 <GNUtoo> mrmoku, you have serial?
Jul 23 20:57:39 <GNUtoo> if so use it
Jul 23 20:59:31 <mrmoku> sure... I was just too lazy to dig it out :)
Jul 23 20:59:48 <mrmoku> fighting a strange and unprecise touchscreen instead
Jul 23 21:01:13 <mrmoku> hmm... just got the desktop reload on iliwi launching
Jul 23 21:04:57 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: ok, got usbnetworking now :)
Jul 23 21:09:56 <mrmoku> yo slyon 
Jul 23 21:09:57 <GNUtoo> ok
Jul 23 21:10:31 <slyon> hi mrmoku! cool that you're back again :)
Jul 23 21:11:03 <slyon> GNUtoo, hey! do you know why usb networking isn't working on gta04 after a fresh installation, and what to do to make it working?
Jul 23 21:11:08 <mrmoku> slyon: :-)
Jul 23 21:11:12 <slyon> ifconfig -a doesn't show the usb0 interface
Jul 23 21:11:23 <mrmoku> slyon: hehe, I just went through that :)
Jul 23 21:11:31 <mrmoku> first missing thing is a depmod -a
Jul 23 21:11:46 <mrmoku> Jan 01 00:00:53 om-gta04 S98run-postinsts[61]: /usr/share/opkg/intercept/update-modules: line 4: /tmp/opkg-7AkK3z/opkg-intercept-cLlxjC/update-modules: No such file or directory
Jul 23 21:11:50 <mrmoku> Jan 01 00:00:53 om-gta04 S98run-postinsts[61]: chmod: /tmp/opkg-7AkK3z/opkg-intercept-cLlxjC/update-modules: No such file or directory
Jul 23 21:11:57 <mrmoku> seems to be the related failure on firstboot
Jul 23 21:12:10 <GNUtoo> hi slyon 
Jul 23 21:14:29 <slyon> mrmoku, depmod -a did the trick. thanks!
Jul 23 21:15:14 <mrmoku> yw
Jul 23 21:15:28 <mrmoku> slyon: btw. I did not respond... but this year I really want to come to OSHW
Jul 23 21:15:48 <slyon> mrmoku, cool!
Jul 23 21:15:54 <slyon> mrmoku, are you subscribed to the om-stammtisch mailinglist? the next stammtisch is beeing planed right now. just fyi
Jul 23 21:16:08 <mrmoku> ohh, no
Jul 23 21:16:10 <GNUtoo> slyon, when+where is it
Jul 23 21:16:43 <GNUtoo> because I saw it and then forgott about it and I didn't check the time+location
Jul 23 21:16:47 <mrmoku> would be a nice occasion to tell you that life is a very strange beast... in case you're interested :-P
Jul 23 21:16:58 <slyon> GNUtoo, its in munich. sometime in the next few weeks
Jul 23 21:17:07 <GNUtoo> ah ok
Jul 23 21:17:16 <GNUtoo> I must know the details asap
Jul 23 21:17:23 <GNUtoo> so I could plan to come
Jul 23 21:17:28 <GNUtoo> else I won't be able to come
Jul 23 21:17:34 <slyon> mrmoku, oh a strage beast? what happend?
Jul 23 21:17:45 <GNUtoo> why not at the same location than osmocom meetings?
Jul 23 21:18:13 <slyon> GNUtoo, i guess they are in berlin, right?
Jul 23 21:18:34 <slyon> GNUtoo, the om-stammtisch is basically a meeting of the munich OM community
Jul 23 21:18:37 <mrmoku> slyon: many things... 
Jul 23 21:18:47 <GNUtoo> ok
Jul 23 21:19:00 <slyon> mrmoku, a lot of daywork to do i guess?
Jul 23 21:19:14 <mrmoku> slyon: enough things being worth a beer or two
Jul 23 21:19:28 <mrmoku> daywork was a secondary consequence yeah
Jul 23 21:19:36 <GNUtoo> mrmoku, I'm interested too know the things I don't already know yet.....
Jul 23 21:19:46 <slyon> mrmoku, heh ok. so check the stammtisch ML :)
Jul 23 21:20:01 <slyon> brb..
Jul 23 21:20:04 <mrmoku> ok
Jul 23 21:28:14 <slyon> re
Jul 23 21:29:12 <mrmoku> slyon: where do I find the ML?
Jul 23 21:33:05 <slyon> mrmoku, http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo/stammtisch
Jul 23 21:33:33 <mrmoku> thx
Jul 23 21:33:38 <slyon> yw
Jul 23 21:41:03 <mrmoku> ok, time for some sleep... gnight and have fun... life can be short :-P
Jul 23 21:43:43 <slyon> gn8
Jul 23 21:45:58 <GNUtoo> does somebody knows a bit the mmc, I've einval on the voltages 
Jul 23 21:46:13 <GNUtoo> [    9.025000] mmc1: host doesn't support card's voltages
Jul 23 21:46:13 <GNUtoo> [    9.030000] mmc1: error -22 whilst initialising MMC card
Jul 23 21:48:28 <GNUtoo> I've also a lot of white screens
Jul 23 21:48:34 <GNUtoo> while using the wifi
Jul 23 21:48:38 <GNUtoo> or trying to
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Jul 23 22:03:12 <slyon> i'll leave. bye!
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Jul 23 23:43:55 <TAsn> mrmoku, yo.
Jul 23 23:44:06 <TAsn> mrmoku, actually, I'm off. Already 3am and I got work tomorrow. ;P
Jul 23 23:44:08 <TAsn> anyhow ,later.
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