**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 01 03:00:02 2012
Sep 01 09:28:37 <mrmoku> JaMa: ping
Sep 01 09:28:42 <mrmoku> TAsn: ping
Sep 01 15:13:41 <JaMa|Off> mrmoku: pong
Sep 01 15:14:34 <mrmoku> JaMa|Off: hey, moderator approval still needed?
Sep 01 15:14:49 <JaMa|Off> yup
Sep 01 15:14:56 <JaMa|Off> github/gitorious/gravatar e-mails
Sep 01 15:15:22 <mrmoku> and why don't you have the pw?
Sep 01 15:15:24 <JaMa|Off> do you get a lot of cron emails about sync.cron.job?
Sep 01 15:15:38 <mrmoku> I got two mails talking about flock I think
Sep 01 15:15:38 <JaMa|Off> pw for moderator?
Sep 01 15:15:47 <mrmoku> list admin
Sep 01 15:15:59 <JaMa|Off> I don't have pw for that afaik
Sep 01 15:16:51 <JaMa|Off> and I registered shr-buildhost accounts on github/gitorious/gravatar (so they are not related to my private e-mail) so that's why I need moderator aproval for those e-mails
Sep 01 15:30:52 <GNUtoo> hi mrmoku 
Sep 01 15:31:00 <mrmoku> hi GNUtoo 
Sep 01 15:31:00 <GNUtoo> GPS works fine with navit on gta04
Sep 01 15:31:08 <mrmoku> cool, very cool
Sep 01 15:31:55 <GNUtoo> the issues with GPS are:
Sep 01 15:32:03 <GNUtoo> -> screen becomes black after some time
Sep 01 15:32:11 <GNUtoo> so you need to type on the screen
Sep 01 15:32:37 <GNUtoo> the program for talking require portaudio which address changed (didn't fetch because of that)
Sep 01 15:33:12 <mrmoku> get's black even if Display is requested?
Sep 01 15:33:41 <GNUtoo> yes
Sep 01 15:33:47 <GNUtoo> probably enlightenment or Xorg
Sep 01 15:33:49 <JaMa|Off> GNUtoo: did morphis talk to you about fso rc2?
Sep 01 15:33:59 <GNUtoo> no
Sep 01 15:34:22 <JaMa|Off> GNUtoo: we would like to upgrade FSO in shr images from rc1 to rc2 and then final
Sep 01 15:34:37 <GNUtoo> ok
Sep 01 15:34:42 <JaMa|Off> there are quite a few fixes only in master branch or 0.12 branch without being included in tarballs
Sep 01 15:34:54 <GNUtoo> yes
Sep 01 15:35:04 <JaMa|Off> can you integrate last scenario changes for gta04 in 0.12 branch?
Sep 01 15:35:16 <JaMa|Off> I can test it on A4 for you if you say me what to test
Sep 01 15:35:29 <JaMa|Off> not today but sunday night or after that
Sep 01 15:36:07 <JaMa|Off> and e.g. fsoraw is fixed for few weeks but we still don't have it in our images which is sad
Sep 01 15:36:29 <JaMa|Off> then we can release 2012.07 :)
Sep 01 15:36:55 <GNUtoo> what last scenarios changes?
Sep 01 15:36:58 <GNUtoo> the hw routing ones
Sep 01 15:37:01 <GNUtoo> or the ones before?
Sep 01 15:37:07 <GNUtoo> the ones before are important
Sep 01 15:37:37 <GNUtoo> hw routing just don't work
Sep 01 15:37:41 <GNUtoo> the scenarios are commited
Sep 01 15:37:43 <GNUtoo> but that's all
Sep 01 15:37:47 <GNUtoo> they are in the repo
Sep 01 15:37:53 <GNUtoo> they are not activated in any way
Sep 01 15:38:09 <JaMa|Off> both I guess
Sep 01 15:38:35 <GNUtoo> I'm not sure hw scenarios are necessary in the last fso
Sep 01 15:38:50 <GNUtoo> it's just scenarios that are buggy and not activated in any ways
Sep 01 15:38:58 <GNUtoo> buggy but  easy to fix tough
Sep 01 15:39:06 <GNUtoo> just remove one line for each scenario....
Sep 01 15:39:52 <JaMa|Off> sorry I don't know details, but whatever is needed to make 0.12 worth releasing as we will stick with it a bit longer then with 0.11 release I guess
Sep 01 15:40:03 <GNUtoo> yes....
Sep 01 15:40:36 <GNUtoo> I'm unsure about what we need to backport, we need to look and discuss it
Sep 01 15:41:11 <JaMa|Off> morphis said he wants to fix some sms issue
Sep 01 15:41:22 <GNUtoo> I'd love a > A3 but they are not available anymore
Sep 01 15:41:29 <GNUtoo> yes that's a bug I had too
Sep 01 15:42:49 <JaMa|Off> I would exchange my A4 with your A3 if we meet somewhere in person (not worth shipping cost imho)
Sep 01 15:43:00 <JaMa|Off> so maybe next FSOSHRCON? :)
Sep 01 15:43:03 <JaMa|Off> mrmoku: ^
Sep 01 15:43:04 <JaMa|Off>  :)
Sep 01 15:43:58 <GNUtoo> 70c420208360006a196c92f0087f878b7af258f7
Sep 01 15:44:02 <GNUtoo> 59594f584348d72d8986e11ec02ffd1c2ac581cd
Sep 01 15:44:06 <GNUtoo> are in .012
Sep 01 15:44:17 <GNUtoo> *0.12
Sep 01 15:44:39 <GNUtoo> ok
Sep 01 15:44:41 <GNUtoo> thanks 
Sep 01 15:45:08 <GNUtoo> the GTA04 is nearly-perfect for me
Sep 01 15:45:15 <GNUtoo> it only lacks 2 things:
Sep 01 15:45:17 <GNUtoo> * camera
Sep 01 15:45:21 <GNUtoo> * stability
Sep 01 15:45:37 <GNUtoo> stability will come with the release
Sep 01 15:45:54 <GNUtoo> JaMa|Off, did you bump enlightenment or emotion?
Sep 01 15:46:50 <JaMa|Off> goth
Sep 01 15:46:51 <JaMa|Off> both
Sep 01 15:47:05 <JaMa|Off> 1.7.0 release for emotion
Sep 01 15:47:16 <JaMa|Off> and corresponding rev vor enlightenment
Sep 01 15:49:34 <keenbug> hi, I also posted that in #openmoko and they said I should ask here
Sep 01 15:50:17 <GNUtoo> ok
Sep 01 15:50:19 <GNUtoo> nice
Sep 01 15:50:23 <GNUtoo> hi keenbug 
Sep 01 15:50:29 <GNUtoo> what was the question?
Sep 01 15:50:30 <keenbug> I looked at the disassembly of NOR (U-Boot) in the Freerunner out of interest and found it's setting the UMCON2 (0x5000800C) which is marked as reserved in the s3c2442b manual, and also in the `new' u-boot version in the stable branch of openmoko's git repository it sets UMCON0 instead. Doesn't that cause problems?
Sep 01 15:50:52 <keenbug> GNUtoo: hi, I was searching for it :)
Sep 01 15:51:03 <GNUtoo> keenbug, what's UMCON*
Sep 01 15:51:09 <GNUtoo> it's for the serial console?
Sep 01 15:51:14 <keenbug> yes
Sep 01 15:51:20 <GNUtoo> maybe people like DocScrutinizer05 would know
Sep 01 15:51:58 <GNUtoo> btw I'm interested in getting faster modem<->AP serial console 
Sep 01 15:52:18 <keenbug> he was the one who said I should ask here
Sep 01 15:52:28 <DocScrutinizer05> nope, I'm actually lost on that one. Never looked into uBoot
Sep 01 15:52:56 <DocScrutinizer05> if somebody might know, then maybe wpwrak
Sep 01 15:54:24 <GNUtoo> btw I will probably be without internet for a while(several days) because the wifi cafee is closing
Sep 01 16:04:14 <DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: any details you xan recall about that uBoot stuff keenbug^^^ mentioned?
Sep 01 16:05:25 <DocScrutinizer05> keenbug: btw why are you looking at a disassembly? AFAIK there's source code of uBoot available
Sep 01 16:09:04 <wpwrak> dunno about UMCON*. i don't think i ever touched the serial code of u-boot.
Sep 01 16:25:52 <mrmoku> JaMa|Off: mmhh... any time :-)
Sep 01 16:26:00 <mrmoku> guess this time the small room would suffice though :-/
Sep 01 16:34:40 <keenbug> DocScrutinizer05: I was playing around with the debugboard and was curious what the neo does on startup, then I saw it setting UMCON2 (which in fact doesn't exist) and looked into the source code
Sep 01 16:35:34 <DocScrutinizer05> mhm
Sep 01 16:35:44 <DocScrutinizer05> hi wpwrak :-)
Sep 01 16:35:54 <DocScrutinizer05> hi mrmoku
Sep 01 16:37:35 <DocScrutinizer05> keenbug: I guess it's legacy from GTA01 which had s3c2410 iirc
Sep 01 16:39:12 <DocScrutinizer05> quite possible the guy who ported uBoot for GTA02 didn't catch that difference (if there's actually that difference in processors)
Sep 01 16:39:13 <keenbug> hm, maybe. there are also other things which are a little bit strange
Sep 01 16:39:58 <DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: you recall who created uBoot-dirty-moko11 ?
Sep 01 16:40:02 <keenbug> the low performance of glamo, partly wrong measured and wrong configured
Sep 01 16:40:43 <DocScrutinizer05> eeeeeek glamo
Sep 01 16:40:48 * DocScrutinizer05 hides
Sep 01 16:40:56 <keenbug> and u-boot doesn't use the recommended PLL configs
Sep 01 17:23:42 <mrmoku> hi DocScrutinizer05 
Sep 01 17:23:47 * mrmoku off for a shower though
Sep 01 17:44:59 <TAsn> mrmoku, not really a pong, I'm off.. ping me again tomorrow. :)
Sep 01 17:51:07 <mrmoku> TAsn: heh, ok... have fun then :-)
Sep 01 17:51:21 <mrmoku> in any case it was a re-ping for your ping :P
Sep 01 20:12:06 <antrik> Alex[sp3dev]: the next Atom generation will (finally) get rid of PowerVR and use real Intel graphics...
Sep 01 20:12:37 <antrik> of course a free PowerVR driver would still be worthwhile, considering the prevalence of OMAP in open hardware projects
Sep 01 20:13:50 <antrik> BTW, regarding GitHub, last time I checked their terms of use were quite outreagous. this was some years back, but I somehow doubt it changed for the better...
Sep 01 20:42:49 <Alex[sp3dev]> oops
Sep 01 20:42:55 <Alex[sp3dev]> antrik: gitorious is dead slow
Sep 02 02:42:49 <calamari> hi. is there a way for me to boot up SHR to a shell without X, or would I not be able to interact with my device? I'm using HTC Dream/G1.
Sep 02 02:54:38 <calamari> I also can't type the letter g, which is preventing me from running ifconfig, any suggestions on that?
Sep 02 02:58:24 <calamari> ah ifconfi* in /sbin works
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