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Nov 30 19:05:38 <nschle85> JaMa: hello Martin,  is there any webos port for N900 in progress ?
Nov 30 19:07:31 <GNUtoo> nschle85, no there isn't but there is something called meego/mer or something like that
Nov 30 19:08:04 <GNUtoo> nschle85, did you try the new arch kernel?
Nov 30 19:08:39 <nschle85> GNUtoo: no because i do not know where to get it from
Nov 30 19:08:58 <GNUtoo> some git hosting website
Nov 30 19:09:31 <GNUtoo> https://github.com/skry/linux-n900/commits/master
Nov 30 19:09:34 <nschle85> GNUtoo: and at the moment shr/n900 is not my first priority 
Nov 30 19:09:50 <GNUtoo> yes but you keep complaining about its status....
Nov 30 19:09:59 <JaMa> nschle85: no port planed as GNUtoo said..
Nov 30 20:28:33 <nschle85> JaMa: GNUtoo: said that webos  has a fast  build server, does it mean you can build   on it instead on jenkins ?
Nov 30 20:39:56 <JaMa> it doesn't have them installed yet, but I'm building mostly on other servers then your jenkins
Nov 30 20:40:04 <JaMa> do you want me to remove workspace there?
Nov 30 20:47:12 <nschle85> JaMa: if i can really support you i would not remove the workspace. If you can live without it, I ll remove it.
Nov 30 20:48:11 <JaMa> well my other builder is using shr-chroot and is faster, so your jenkins was usefull mostly to test that it builds on stock ubuntu too
Nov 30 20:48:33 <JaMa> but for that I can live with only one workspace or just no workspace at all :)
Nov 30 20:59:15 <nschle85> JaMa: hmm, as i know  Ubuntu  is n ot your target host platform but since i provided jenkins shr support for ubuntu was much very much better. So asking you to remove any workspace will lead in to less support for ubuntu. 
Nov 30 21:01:56 <nschle85> JaMa: at the moment i am not following shr development and i dont  know when i am motivated to do it
Nov 30 21:04:14 <nschle85> JaMa: so not supporting ubuntu  would not  hurt me.
Nov 30 21:08:16 <GNUtoo> nschle85, btw did you try to play with the forwarder that was in branches
Nov 30 21:08:29 <GNUtoo> like to submit patches to it
Nov 30 21:08:32 <GNUtoo> like in the past
Nov 30 21:08:46 <JaMa> nschle85: I'll fix the weather in shr-branches builds and then cleanup both ws
Nov 30 21:09:29 <GNUtoo> because it seems that java->vala is not that hard
Nov 30 21:09:47 <nschle85> GNUtoo: no, as i said to JaMa:  id did not follow shr  development for a long time
Nov 30 21:10:00 <GNUtoo> I'm talking about a long time ago
Nov 30 21:10:27 <nschle85> GNUtoo: i know but my interests changed
Nov 30 21:11:19 <GNUtoo> ok
Nov 30 21:11:46 <nschle85> GNUtoo: did you document  your development ? where to find your branches ?
Nov 30 21:11:48 <GNUtoo> probably because of the bad machine support in SHR?
Nov 30 21:12:04 <GNUtoo> I think it's documented somewhere, probably in mailing lists
Nov 30 21:13:19 <nschle85> GNUtoo: yes, i bought the N900 in hope that it will be a working phone and well supported ....
Nov 30 21:13:53 <GNUtoo> yes I know....
Nov 30 21:14:04 <GNUtoo> the problem is that I had too much devices
Nov 30 21:14:14 <GNUtoo> and I couldn't support them all fully
Nov 30 21:14:20 <GNUtoo> and the other devs disapeared
Nov 30 21:14:32 <GNUtoo> the biggest problem is that the other devs disapeared
Nov 30 21:14:37 <GNUtoo> that made me do more work
Nov 30 21:14:44 <GNUtoo> which made me explode 
Nov 30 21:14:53 <GNUtoo> because I took too much work
Nov 30 21:15:08 <GNUtoo> and also because of the bad status
Nov 30 21:15:17 <GNUtoo> I started to get nervous too easily etc....
Nov 30 21:16:09 <nschle85> GNUtoo: you are talking since  one year about N900 telephone support but  its still not usable
Nov 30 21:16:29 <GNUtoo> yes I didn't find the time to finish it in one year
Nov 30 21:16:33 <GNUtoo> I tried
Nov 30 21:16:37 <GNUtoo> I tried hard
Nov 30 21:16:46 <GNUtoo> but each time something was broken
Nov 30 21:16:49 <GNUtoo> something else
Nov 30 21:16:53 <GNUtoo> like gta02 not working
Nov 30 21:16:56 <GNUtoo> etc...
Nov 30 21:17:09 <GNUtoo> and no one wanted to help
Nov 30 21:17:33 <GNUtoo> when I work alone I get nervous way more easily
Nov 30 21:17:54 <nschle85> GNUtoo: but you should make your development more transparent, its hard to follow mailing lists
Nov 30 21:18:10 <GNUtoo> I think you were CCed in the mail
Nov 30 21:19:08 <nschle85> GNUtoo: i am getting a lot of mails and currently i am filtering all shr /oe mails
Nov 30 21:19:21 <GNUtoo> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 00:40:39 +0200
Nov 30 21:19:25 <GNUtoo> Subject: [Shr-Devel] n900 forwarder
Nov 30 21:19:33 <GNUtoo> To: Norman Schleicher
Nov 30 21:19:42 <GNUtoo> Cc: shr-devel
Nov 30 21:20:16 <GNUtoo> http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-devel/2012-June/004105.html
Nov 30 21:20:35 <nschle85> GNUtoo: sorry but iam getting tons of mails, so please document all things in the wiki
Nov 30 21:20:45 <GNUtoo> ok
Nov 30 21:22:08 <GNUtoo> basically for SHR, I've done my part on the GTA04 for now, so I'm waiting for slyon to do the part in fso or for him to show up asking for help on dbus/async-vala
Nov 30 21:22:29 <GNUtoo> I've still some stuff to do in nuttx
Nov 30 21:22:44 <nschle85> i think ill see him tomorrow
Nov 30 21:22:45 <GNUtoo> but then I've to decide between crespo and n900
Nov 30 21:22:51 <GNUtoo> ok
Nov 30 21:23:03 <nschle85> why to decide ?
Nov 30 21:23:14 <GNUtoo> to decide on which to work first
Nov 30 21:23:30 <GNUtoo> because I can't work on both at the same time....
Nov 30 21:24:29 <nschle85> GNUtoo: you should make your work more transparent ... so others can much easier help
Nov 30 21:28:26 <GNUtoo-x60> ok
Nov 30 21:30:40 <PaulFertser> nschle85: my friend uses "imapfilter && mbsync gmail && mu index -q " to handle mails, with right rules in imapfilter to sort it all and "mutt" a large mail flow is not hard to handle.
Nov 30 21:37:13 <GNUtoo-x60> PaulFertser, I handle mails manually....I should learn that
Nov 30 21:39:36 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-x60: that imapfilter seems to be nice stuff, easily configurable with lua. If you're going to try mbsync, use the "trunk" version. mu allows to quickly search through all of your mail using different conditions.
Nov 30 21:39:52 <GNUtoo-x60> ok
Nov 30 21:40:13 <GNUtoo-x60> are they compatible with claws-mail?
Nov 30 21:40:43 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-x60: a mutt alternative would be "sup". One of the cool features it has is "muting a thread" (i.e. you won't anymore see any mails in this particular thread), but you can emulate that in mutt too.
Nov 30 21:41:33 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-x60: if claws-mail supports maildir, yes, mbsync will handle that. Imapfilter is doing all the sorting on the imap server itself, so it's compatible with any clients.
Nov 30 21:41:55 <GNUtoo-x60> ok but I don't have an imap server for receiving mails yet
Nov 30 21:42:03 <GNUtoo-x60> I mean it's not under my control
Nov 30 21:42:06 <PaulFertser> How do you get your mail?
Nov 30 21:42:17 <GNUtoo-x60> trough imap but not on my server
Nov 30 21:42:17 <PaulFertser> I mean imapfilter is using imap to sort.
Nov 30 21:42:21 <GNUtoo-x60> ok
Nov 30 21:42:33 <PaulFertser> You do not need to control a server, it works even with gmail. And it works quite fast too.
Nov 30 21:42:38 <GNUtoo-x60> ah ok
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