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Jan 20 12:18:01 <GNUtoo-x60> hi,
Jan 20 12:18:03 <GNUtoo-x60> http://marc.info/?l=linux-serial&m=135868132901431&w=2
Jan 20 12:18:19 <GNUtoo-x60> that was my problem with the recent kenrels on gta02
Jan 20 12:18:24 <GNUtoo-x60> recent means after 3.2
Jan 20 12:18:27 <GNUtoo-x60> like 3.4
Jan 20 15:36:20 <ayaka> GNUtoo-x60, I use 3.7 to run on that devboard , it works! but nfs has some problem, I will try to fix it
Jan 20 15:36:43 <ayaka> I think I just need to modify some GPIO setting, then it can works well
Jan 20 15:38:23 <ayaka> but the way aboot booting is really strange
Jan 20 15:39:23 <ayaka> you can boot from sdcard or nand flash, if you want to boot from sdcard, you need a tool to write sdcard, which write the end part of sdcard!
Jan 20 15:41:19 <ayaka> and it is not easy to make a boot sdcard as you need to zero it many times. Once you boot into u-boot(1.31) it even doesn't compile ether driver, but you can use a stupid samsung USB OTG download
Jan 20 15:41:53 <ayaka> I am trying to build in DM9000A driver in uboot, but not done yet
Jan 20 15:47:02 <GNUtoo-x60> ok
Jan 20 15:47:21 <GNUtoo-x60> for sdcard it's probably because of bootloader stuff
Jan 20 15:48:01 <GNUtoo-x60> basically I guess it requires to have the bootloader on sdcard
Jan 20 15:50:18 <ayaka> GNUtoo-x60, it just need stonge sdcard format, like 2 GB sdcard, it will format into 2 partition, 1.7G in fat32, the other is raw, I think it store bootloader in raw date
Jan 20 15:50:42 <ayaka> I wonder why it doesn't need some thing like x-loader
Jan 20 15:51:06 <GNUtoo-x60> I think it does
Jan 20 15:51:11 <ayaka> s/ stonge/strong/
Jan 20 15:51:18 <GNUtoo-x60> you can store xloader on sdcard 
Jan 20 15:51:20 <GNUtoo-x60> for omap
Jan 20 15:51:59 <ayaka> I know that, but I don't know something like x-loader on samsung  platform
Jan 20 15:53:07 <ayaka> and it may need a different format in sdcard, the uboot I compiled for sdcard(version) can't work, but offical version can which is bigger than mini
Jan 20 15:53:16 <ayaka> s/mini/mine/
Jan 20 15:53:34 <ayaka> but uboot for nand version doesn't have this problem
Jan 20 15:54:31 <GNUtoo-x60> I don't know s3c6xxx
Jan 20 15:54:39 <GNUtoo-x60> I know before and after it
Jan 20 15:54:52 <GNUtoo-x60> for after there is something like xloader
Jan 20 15:54:56 <GNUtoo-x60> for before there isn't
Jan 20 15:55:01 <GNUtoo-x60> so I don't know....
Jan 20 15:57:08 <ayaka> then "for after there is something like xloader" what is it?
Jan 20 15:57:47 <GNUtoo-x60> a signed bootloader
Jan 20 15:57:55 <GNUtoo-x60> like for s5pc110
Jan 20 15:57:57 <GNUtoo-x60> for instance
Jan 20 15:58:06 <GNUtoo-x60> basically you have:
Jan 20 15:58:19 <GNUtoo-x60> bootrom->signed initial bootloader->uboot
Jan 20 15:58:53 <ayaka> I see
Jan 20 16:00:04 <ayaka> about 3.7 kernel, I think my devboard is just a copy of  mini6410, but maybe something different in GPIOs
Jan 20 16:00:30 <ayaka> like use a different pins for sepcial use
Jan 20 16:00:54 <ayaka> do you want to see output?
Jan 20 16:03:21 <GNUtoo-x60> ah you already ran 3.7 on it?
Jan 20 16:03:50 <ayaka> or maybe it doesn't care it too much now as I only want to use nfs, it will just care memory,cpu, screen(works) , ethernet( unsure status) and its platform uart
Jan 20 16:04:03 <ayaka> yes I have run 3.7 on it
Jan 20 16:04:08 <GNUtoo-x60> ok
Jan 20 16:04:22 <GNUtoo-x60> there is 3.7 for your board?
Jan 20 16:04:29 <GNUtoo-x60> or did you modify mainline or uboot
Jan 20 16:04:37 <GNUtoo-x60> to output correct machine id
Jan 20 16:05:17 <ayaka> no,no I don't modify at all
Jan 20 16:05:47 <ayaka> but in bootargs which is the env of uboot, I didn't find it send machine id
Jan 20 16:06:44 <GNUtoo-x60> ok
Jan 20 16:07:06 <GNUtoo-x60> then it's a specific kernel I guess
Jan 20 16:07:34 <ayaka> no,no I download kernel source from kernel.org
Jan 20 16:08:19 <ayaka> I think this cpu doesn't care board too much, I didn't see board type config when I config kernel
Jan 20 16:09:38 <GNUtoo-x60> ok
Jan 20 16:17:13 <ayaka> sorry, there is some problem in my usb-serial adapter, I can't paste output at once
Jan 20 16:18:12 <GNUtoo-x60> np
Jan 20 16:18:25 <ayaka> https://paste.debian.net/226784/
Jan 20 16:18:56 <impulse> anyone know a repository that has FSO? What's SHR's repository?
Jan 20 16:19:10 <GNUtoo-x60> Machine: SMDK6410
Jan 20 16:19:20 <GNUtoo-x60> impulse, what do you mean?
Jan 20 16:19:30 <GNUtoo-x60> git.shr-project.org probably
Jan 20 16:19:30 <impulse> i get this error when i try to update in qtmoko: Failed to fetch http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/apps/Packages.gz  408  Request Time-out
Jan 20 16:19:36 <GNUtoo-x60> but fso is on freesmartphone.org
Jan 20 16:19:52 <GNUtoo-x60> FSO is not used by  qtmoko by default
Jan 20 16:19:56 <GNUtoo-x60> it's in the image
Jan 20 16:20:01 <GNUtoo-x60> but it's not used
Jan 20 16:20:19 <impulse> i tried to enable it in neocontrol but it fails to install
Jan 20 16:20:39 <impulse> can't update packages and there is no fso-gta02
Jan 20 16:20:53 <GNUtoo-x60> I've no idea, I don't use qtmoko
Jan 20 16:21:25 <impulse> is SHR debian based?
Jan 20 16:22:03 <impulse> GNUtoo-x60: which one do you use?
Jan 20 16:22:12 <ayaka> I thought SMDK6410 is a common name of s3c6410 board, know I see
Jan 20 16:22:48 <GNUtoo-x60> impulse, it's yocto based
Jan 20 16:22:56 <impulse> oh
Jan 20 16:23:07 <impulse> any debian repos that have FSO?
Jan 20 16:23:09 <GNUtoo-x60> ayaka, SMDK6410 is probably a samsung devboard
Jan 20 16:23:15 <impulse> you use SHR GNUtoo-x60?
Jan 20 16:23:16 <GNUtoo-x60> impulse, yes there are
Jan 20 16:23:19 <GNUtoo-x60> pkg-fso maybe
Jan 20 16:23:22 <GNUtoo-x60> impulse, yes
Jan 20 16:23:28 <impulse> pkg-fso?
Jan 20 16:23:43 <GNUtoo-x60> you asked for debian repositories having fso
Jan 20 16:23:58 <GNUtoo-x60> btw there is probably a #qtmoko channel
Jan 20 16:24:25 <impulse> no one there
Jan 20 16:25:35 <GNUtoo-x60> there are people there
Jan 20 16:25:40 <GNUtoo-x60> I just tried 
Jan 20 16:25:52 <ayaka> GNUtoo-x60, I see, I will try to find different between original and teacher's
Jan 20 16:26:04 <GNUtoo-x60> ayaka, maybe that's what happened:
Jan 20 16:26:11 <GNUtoo-x60> maybe they didn't reserve a machine ID
Jan 20 16:26:20 <GNUtoo-x60> and took the SMDK6410 one instead
Jan 20 16:26:27 <GNUtoo-x60> and put it in uboot and their kernel
Jan 20 16:26:42 <impulse> pkg-fso helped
Jan 20 16:26:43 <GNUtoo-x60> that's probably the cause of the mainline kernel that is booting
Jan 20 16:26:49 <ayaka> yes
Jan 20 16:29:32 <ayaka> but maybe kernel also use SMDK6410 board config and the 3.0.1 kernel's board config was modify from SMDK6410
Jan 20 16:29:41 <ayaka> I will back check it
Jan 20 16:36:04 <ayaka> I check the config of uboot, it use config of smdk6410, but I am not sure they change something now
Jan 20 16:36:40 <GNUtoo-x60> ok
Jan 20 16:38:44 <ayaka> include/configs/smdk6410.h modified
Jan 20 16:40:57 <ayaka> not change too much, most about memory, my teacher's devboard has two version, 128M RAM or 256MB, the base address are different
Jan 20 16:42:24 <GNUtoo-x60> ok
Jan 20 16:44:45 <ayaka> GNUtoo-x60, thank you
Jan 20 16:45:24 <ayaka> I will go to sleep, do you have some suggestion about what I shall do tomorrow
Jan 20 16:45:33 <GNUtoo-x60> ok
Jan 20 16:45:48 <GNUtoo-x60> see you later
Jan 20 23:49:50 <MrMc> I am looking for a technical reference manual for the gat02 with the intention to write ARM Assembly
Jan 20 23:50:11 <MrMc> does such a document exist?
Jan 20 23:53:32 <MrMc> The openmoko wiki has links to various pdfs I have read the samsung arm core manual looking for the information on how to boot up. 
Jan 21 00:20:08 <khorben> MrMc: if you want to write assembly in userland, you don't need a particular manual for the gta02 really
Jan 21 00:20:33 <khorben> just the reference manual for the correct ARM architecture
Jan 21 00:20:38 <khorben> variant
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