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Jan 30 07:27:27 <pabs3> PaulFertser: how about packaging fso-el for Debian?
Jan 30 10:38:42 <PaulFertser> pabs3: do yoi think there
Jan 30 10:38:59 <PaulFertser> 's a suuficient demand?
Jan 30 10:40:00 <PaulFertser> I can do the packaging of course, if you think it worth it.
Jan 30 14:09:29 <PaulFertser> morphis: (CREG=0 patch) please do not apply yet, more extensive testing showed it's not enough.
Jan 30 14:48:11 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: hi
Jan 30 14:48:23 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: regarding messages from SIM appearing again and again:
Jan 30 14:48:50 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: do you know fsogsmd uses config from 1. the current directory. 2. your HOME directory?
Jan 30 14:48:56 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: chances are you have an old config
Jan 30 14:49:10 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: other possibility is that you might have /var/tmp on tmpfs too. Can you check if this is not the case?
Jan 30 14:50:04 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: i use Debian with 2.6.39 on my gta02 and with (sigh) e17 illume (going to get rid of it really soon)
Jan 30 14:50:17 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: it's still my only cellphone so i guess i can say it works ok-ish.
Jan 30 15:30:27 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ok
Jan 30 15:40:23 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: i'm willing to help you track down the bug with SIM messages.
Jan 30 15:42:06 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ok thanks a lot
Jan 30 15:42:29 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> /var/tmp is over RAM here
Jan 30 15:42:34 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> I'll look very soon
Jan 30 15:44:29 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: then set ``sms_storage_dir'' in [fsogsm] section to some non-volatile location.
Jan 30 15:45:46 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ok
Jan 30 15:46:10 <PaulFertser> morphis: hi. I need your help to fix that +CREG issue.
Jan 30 15:46:33 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> which location is best?
Jan 30 15:47:05 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> PaulFertser, btw next time you send patches, could you put a generic mail before
Jan 30 15:47:06 <PaulFertser> morphis: the reason is that you made the code that configures the network registration status ask for it on the Main channel. And on calypso we're used to use a dedicated channel for all the URCs
Jan 30 15:47:17 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> so I would respond ot this one when I merge all patches
Jan 30 15:47:23 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> because all your patches are merged
Jan 30 15:47:26 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: hm, /var/tmp should be ok as it's non-volatile on most distros.
Jan 30 15:47:34 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> but I'm too laxy for responding to every patches
Jan 30 15:48:17 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: well, i'd send them with a cover mail or as a series if they were actually anyhow related. But i'm not sure what to write about totally unrelated patches.
Jan 30 15:48:46 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: please do not merge the +CREG patch, it's wrong
Jan 30 15:49:11 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: and also even though POFF patch is really needed for gta02 it sort of breaks gta01 :(
Jan 30 15:49:23 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> it's already merged
Jan 30 15:49:34 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> I merged all patches
Jan 30 15:49:40 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> yesterday
Jan 30 15:51:07 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: well, ok, it doesn't harm anyway, just useless :(
Jan 30 15:51:12 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ok
Jan 30 15:51:33 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> basically the issue is that I'm the only one left for merging patches
Jan 30 15:51:41 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> morphis, etc... are not available for that
Jan 30 15:51:44 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: slyon and morphis are
Jan 30 15:52:59 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: i'm not an FSO dev, i think my patches need to be reviewed by the corresponding maintainers.
Jan 30 15:55:17 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> it takes months to get patches in otherwise
Jan 30 15:55:23 <PaulFertser> Especially when i'm preparing patches while being frustrated by something not working that should have been noticed by the others long time ago.
Jan 30 15:55:29 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> morphis, and slyon are not available a lot
Jan 30 15:55:52 <PaulFertser> I think i should get commit access too then to push patches i'm sure about myself.
Jan 30 15:56:00 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ok
Jan 30 15:56:07 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> I'm not the fso admin though
Jan 30 15:56:11 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ask morphis then
Jan 30 15:56:19 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> but he may take his time to respond
Jan 30 15:56:56 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: right atm i need CREG to be fixed, but that requires to consider a bigger picture and i'm atm feeling modem_ti_calypso-constrained.
Jan 30 15:57:47 <PaulFertser> Nah, i lack commit powers for git.freesmartphone.org currently
Jan 30 15:58:10 <PaulFertser> I mean my view is constrained
Jan 30 15:58:29 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ok
Jan 30 15:58:56 <PaulFertser> But it's a real show-stopper for gta02, imagine it wakes up on every +CREG and then it takes who knows how much to suspend again.
Jan 30 15:59:19 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ouch
Jan 30 16:00:16 <PaulFertser> Since may
Jan 30 16:02:03 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> sms_storage_dir = /var/tmp/fsogsmd/sms/
Jan 30 16:02:13 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> tmpfs on /var/volatile type tmpfs (rw,relatime)
Jan 30 16:02:49 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: so /var/tmp should be non-volatile
Jan 30 16:03:11 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> yes
Jan 30 16:03:13 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> maybe
Jan 30 16:03:16 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> JaMa, hi
Jan 30 16:23:43 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: do you get duplicated messages on every fsogsmd restart or only on the whole system restart?
Jan 30 16:23:58 <JaMa> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: hi
Jan 30 16:24:50 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> PaulFertser, let me try
Jan 30 16:26:59 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> JaMa, currently /var/tmp is not volatile anymore, right?
Jan 30 16:34:21 <JaMa> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: yes all /var/* are now normal dirs, not symlinks managed by populate-volatile, not tmpfs mount points
Jan 30 16:35:11 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ok thanks
Jan 30 16:38:15 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> PaulFertser, seem to work nowadays
Jan 30 16:38:36 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: so was it an old bug fixed upstream by OE?
Jan 30 16:38:51 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> yes
Jan 30 16:38:54 <PaulFertser> Ok, good :)
Jan 30 16:39:17 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: btw, i know you're interested in various alsa forwarders. I have another example written by an expert.
Jan 30 16:39:26 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ok
Jan 30 16:39:38 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> btw abuot alsa I've a big issue in SHR:
Jan 30 16:39:49 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> I cannot play ogg songs
Jan 30 16:40:59 <PaulFertser> This one: http://git.linuxtv.org/tvtime.git/blob/HEAD:/src/alsa_stream.c written by one of the very competent V4L2 drivers kernel hackers specifically to showcase the drivers' capabilities to their customers.
Jan 30 16:41:18 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ok
Jan 30 16:41:22 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> I used the one in alsa
Jan 30 16:41:24 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> for the gta04
Jan 30 16:43:01 <PaulFertser> It's an alsa userspace forwarder too. He said he made it specifically to have as low latency as possible (to avoid having audio-video offset).
Jan 30 16:44:09 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ok wow nice
Jan 30 16:44:40 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ah my gta02 hanged in suspend
Jan 30 16:45:22 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> I wonder what's the best for gta02
Jan 30 16:45:31 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> between working on the kernel
Jan 30 16:45:39 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> or working on userspace( GPS for instance)
Jan 30 16:45:54 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> because now someone has a pointer on the slow boot issue
Jan 30 16:45:57 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> it's due to serial port
Jan 30 16:48:24 <Sicelo> gta has 'physical' serial port? O.o
Jan 30 16:49:34 <PaulFertser> Sicelo: what device doesn't?
Jan 30 16:50:30 <Sicelo> hmm, the one usually beneath battery:
Jan 30 16:50:33 <Sicelo> ?
Jan 30 16:51:29 <PaulFertser> Sicelo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uart
Jan 30 17:04:59 <Sicelo> thanks
Jan 30 17:20:13 <PaulFertser> Sicelo: almost any CPU, SoC and microcontroller has a UART
Jan 30 17:26:29 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> PaulFertser, really? what about the USB debug port?
Jan 30 17:26:40 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> like some x86 laptops
Jan 30 17:27:06 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m: i do not think x86 laptops have a USB controller on CPU.
Jan 30 17:27:13 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ok
Jan 30 17:27:37 <PaulFertser> TBH, i've never seen a datasheet on a modern x86 chip. But lspci suggests the USB controllers are part of a motheboard chipset.
Jan 30 17:28:00 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> yes
Jan 30 17:28:11 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> but usb debug nowadays replace serial....badly
Jan 30 21:19:53 <Thamos> hi
Jan 30 22:02:09 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> hi
Jan 30 22:36:27 <Thamos> has someone else emacs in shr broken? alway when i start it, it eats the cpu. At least for some minutes.
Jan 30 22:39:25 <JaMa> I've started emacs only once just after I've added it in feed
Jan 30 22:40:43 <Thamos> at my first try the phone froze (don't think emacs fault) but since then it just eats my cpu after bringing ab startup screen.
Jan 30 22:41:06 <Thamos> (ab = up, sry)
Jan 30 22:41:45 <Thamos> i just tried with screen and ssh until now. maybe i should try on phone display itself.
Jan 30 22:43:26 <Thamos> hm. with graphical ui it seems to work.
Jan 30 22:51:52 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> Thamos, hi
Jan 30 22:52:03 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> it eats the CPU only in console
Jan 30 22:52:06 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> not graphically
Jan 30 22:52:08 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ah ok
Jan 30 22:52:13 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> I'll go bye
Jan 30 22:54:05 <Thamos> hm :(
Jan 30 22:55:02 <Thamos> do i have  to live with that? I wanted to use it with console, too. :(
Jan 30 22:55:18 <Thamos> does anybody know why that is so?
Jan 30 22:56:08 <JaMa> I'll apply patch if you solve it, but I'm not really interested in something I never used (as vim user)
Jan 30 22:56:57 <Thamos> hmh. And i've got no clue, where to search.
Jan 30 22:57:17 <JaMa> strace? gdb
Jan 30 22:58:52 <Thamos> i'm not really a dev :(
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