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Feb 11 06:11:25 <PaulFertser> khorben: heh, it was "Paste" truncated, emulating Shift-Insert to paste in urxvt/xterm and other compatible apps.
Feb 11 08:46:37 <khorben> PaulFertser: I know :p
Feb 11 12:30:54 <khorben> hey [3]Trim 
Feb 11 13:17:31 <[3]Trim> hello khorben
Feb 11 13:17:39 <[3]Trim> how are you ?
Feb 11 13:23:21 <khorben> hey I'm fine
Feb 11 13:23:49 <khorben> still working on DeforaOS
Feb 11 13:24:04 <khorben> and maybe I'll release a dse3 after all
Feb 11 13:25:02 <[3]Trim> yes, I've seen your mail, that great, but (un)fortunately, I've received my gta04 and I think I won't be able to use dse3 on it
Feb 11 13:25:32 <khorben> yeah, I don't have a gta04 to test
Feb 11 13:25:37 <khorben> but it should work there too
Feb 11 13:26:13 <[3]Trim> I don't know how the modem support is done in hackable:1
Feb 11 13:26:52 <khorben> via Phone
Feb 11 13:27:05 <khorben> the UI embeds a GSM AT backend
Feb 11 13:27:47 <khorben> (it;'s modular)
Feb 11 13:28:10 <khorben> I have a beginning of VoIP support
Feb 11 13:28:29 <khorben> and it should be relatively easy to glue FSO support
Feb 11 13:28:53 <[3]Trim> Ah, it should be good, because SHR already use FSO I think
Feb 11 13:31:46 <khorben> I have a friend who switched from SHR to dse2
Feb 11 13:31:48 <khorben> and he loves it
Feb 11 13:32:11 <khorben> so it's motivating me to update it
Feb 11 13:34:33 <[3]Trim> good :) I think too it's a good alternative to QtMoko, SHR and Android
Feb 11 13:39:37 <pabs3> I never tried it, what are the advantages?
Feb 11 13:54:38 <[3]Trim> it uses gtk, it's based on Debian and it uses simple user instead of root
Feb 11 14:18:58 <[3]Trim> khorben : do you think if I compile my own kernel for gta04 I'll be able to run dse3 (even without gsm) to try it ?
Feb 11 14:26:57 <khorben> [3]Trim: it should work yes
Feb 11 14:28:14 <khorben> I have uploaded some packages here while I reorganize a proper infrastructure:
Feb 11 14:28:17 <khorben> http://people.defora.org/~khorben/temp/binary-armel/
Feb 11 14:30:04 <khorben> [3]Trim: is the modem interface AT-based on the gta04?
Feb 11 14:30:58 <[3]Trim> yes iirc on the mailing list there were discussion about at commands to have 3g and so one
Feb 11 14:31:55 <khorben> then it should work almost out of the box
Feb 11 14:32:05 <khorben> biggest issue will be the sound profiles
Feb 11 14:33:16 <[3]Trim> on QtMoko they use pulseaudio to be able correct power management with the sound card (they use pasuspender)
Feb 11 14:33:29 <[3]Trim> I don't know how PA works for sound profiles
Feb 11 14:37:50 <khorben> DeforaOS Phone uses PA + alsamixer by default
Feb 11 14:38:44 <khorben> the openmoko-specific part is in a distinct plug-in
Feb 11 14:38:50 <khorben> could be adapted for gta04
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