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Apr 07 12:08:31 <rah> did anybody have to modify QtMoko in order to get their charger to work?
Apr 07 12:08:36 <rah> when I plug the charger into my GTA04, it doesn't charge, it just sits there
Apr 07 12:08:39 <rah> in fact the current consumption usually goes *up* instead of negative
Apr 07 12:38:41 <GNUtoo-x60> rah, do you have lastest version of qtmoko?
Apr 07 12:39:54 <PaulFertser> rah: also, http://lists.goldelico.com/pipermail/gta04-owner/2012-May/002396.html
Apr 07 13:21:54 <rah> GNUtoo-x60: yes
Apr 07 13:22:00 <GNUtoo-x60> ok
Apr 07 13:22:45 <rah> PaulFertser: that mail implies that the battery will charge when the charger is first plugged in
Apr 07 13:26:00 <PaulFertser> rah: yes
Apr 07 13:26:15 <PaulFertser> rah: charging is controlled by the kernel anyway, it's not distro-dependent.
Apr 07 13:28:59 <rah> PaulFertser: my kernel doesn't seem to want to charge using the charger :-/
Apr 07 13:29:16 <PaulFertser> rah: what does it say when you plug the charger in?
Apr 07 13:30:02 <rah> I'm not sure
Apr 07 13:30:29 <PaulFertser> eh?
Apr 07 13:30:46 <rah> I haven't looked at the kernel output
Apr 07 13:32:15 <rah> PaulFertser: it says nothing
Apr 07 13:32:25 <rah> nothing at all
Apr 07 13:32:25 <PaulFertser> rah: what charger are you using?
Apr 07 13:33:23 <rah> PaulFertser: Openmoko model A10P1-05MP
Apr 07 13:33:59 <rah> FUCK
Apr 07 13:34:25 <PaulFertser> rah: Does it work with some other equipment? Are you sure gta04 is not expecting a now-standard USB charger with D- and D+ shorted?
Apr 07 13:34:30 <rah> I just got a hell of a jolt accidentally touching the pins after I took it out of the mains socket
Apr 07 13:34:57 <rah> PaulFertser: I haven't tried it with any other equipment
Apr 07 13:35:17 <rah> PaulFertser: I'm not sure of anything; I came here to find out what I should be sure of :-)
Apr 07 13:35:54 <PaulFertser> It has a capacitor inside that charges to ~300V but i do not see how it can discharge back through a diode bridge.
Apr 07 13:55:00 <rah> PaulFertser: what *should* I be sure of?
Apr 07 13:55:17 <rah> *should* the GTA04 charge when I plug the charger in?
Apr 07 13:55:57 <PaulFertser> rah: tbh, i do not know. I was charging mine attaching to a PC.
Apr 07 13:56:17 <rah> :-/
Apr 07 16:24:49 <PaulFertser> angelox|laptop: hey!
Apr 07 16:27:17 <angelox|laptop> PaulFertser: hey man, long time!
Apr 07 16:27:37 <PaulFertser> angelox|laptop: yeah :) How are you doing?
Apr 07 16:31:40 <angelox|laptop> PaulFertser: I'm good, thanks, busy with school i haven't had time to do anything that i used to do like codding, i have only weekends to those activities, what about you?
Apr 07 16:32:21 <PaulFertser> angelox|laptop: i'm fine, not doing much either, busy with work
Apr 07 16:32:51 <angelox|laptop> PaulFertser: hmm, i see..
Apr 07 16:33:01 <PaulFertser> angelox|laptop: running xmonad on my gta02 now :)
Apr 07 16:34:37 <angelox|laptop> PaulFertser: never heard about it, seeing on google it's such a window manager?
Apr 07 16:35:51 <PaulFertser> angelox|laptop: yes :)
Apr 07 16:36:17 <PaulFertser> angelox|laptop: one of the best tiling wm's, or probably the best.
Apr 07 16:37:13 <angelox|laptop> PaulFertser: oh i see, if i have time i probably will test it, in my pc, because i'm not fine with Ubuntu's unity (bought a new laptop)
Apr 07 16:37:24 <PaulFertser> angelox|laptop: i've fully debugged an fsogsmd bug leading to a segfault but nobody's willing to fix it :(
Apr 07 16:37:56 <angelox|laptop> PaulFertser: hmm, that is bad :/
Apr 07 16:38:03 <angelox|laptop> PaulFertser: i gotta go, will be back in some hours
Apr 07 16:38:09 <angelox|laptop> PaulFertser: cya!
Apr 07 16:38:28 <PaulFertser> angelox|laptop: see you, good luck!
Apr 07 17:19:11 <Sicelo> hi. who do i need to talk to concerning SHR on the N900? Specifically, I would like to request that in addition to the uImages, zImages should also be provided for those of us with problems booting N900 with u-boot
Apr 07 17:19:36 <Sicelo> at least zImage can be loaded with flasher and 0xFFFF
Apr 07 17:20:17 <PaulFertser> Sicelo: can't you just strip the uImage header of the provided image?
Apr 07 17:21:37 <Sicelo> hmm, i don't even know how that works. but i would be willing to try
Apr 07 17:22:23 <PaulFertser>  4. Remove uImage header from kernel file to obtain a flashable zImage kernel
Apr 07 17:22:26 <PaulFertser>     dd ibs=64 if=uImage_pow45_noUBoot of=zImage_pow45_noUBoot skip=1
Apr 07 17:23:19 <Sicelo> wow! looks simple. where did you grab that from?
Apr 07 17:24:11 <GNUtoo-x60> PaulFertser, there is an issue though
Apr 07 17:24:18 <GNUtoo-x60> I'm not sure about the cmdline
Apr 07 17:24:21 <GNUtoo-x60> that must be checked
Apr 07 17:24:28 <GNUtoo-x60> beacuse usually the cmdline is encoded in uboot
Apr 07 17:24:34 <GNUtoo-x60> here there is no uboot
Apr 07 17:26:31 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-x60: yes, but he wasn't asking about a kernel that would boot fine without ATAGs, he asked about zimage and shr's uimages are most likely zimages with a header.  
Apr 07 17:26:45 <GNUtoo-x60> ok
Apr 07 17:26:55 <Sicelo> you mean the cmdline that i'd need with the zImage? a plain zImage is fine for my needs. i can put in the cmdline with flasher as well
Apr 07 17:29:37 <PaulFertser> Sicelo: can flasher write ATAGs to memory? Cool
Apr 07 17:31:01 <Sicelo> i don't even know what those are, heh. 
Apr 07 17:32:20 <Sicelo> reason i want to try this is because so far, i've never been successful with SHR kernels. i've tested SHR with other kernels (from MeeGo/Nemo). however, with those, i can't get stuff like the modem to work. 
Apr 07 17:32:59 <Sicelo> so i want to use 'stock' SHR kernels. unfortuantely.. so far things hang with the famous -110 error
Apr 07 17:36:49 <GNUtoo-x60> Sicelo, good idea
Apr 07 17:37:08 <GNUtoo-x60> -110 is timeout
Apr 07 18:07:30 <SiceloDeb> thanks a lot
Apr 07 18:07:36 <SiceloDeb> booted fine with the zImage
Apr 07 18:07:39 <SiceloDeb> ;)
Apr 07 18:23:04 <SiceloDeb> ok. i'm having a problem starting the phone
Apr 07 18:23:15 <SiceloDeb> modem, i mean
Apr 07 18:24:16 <SiceloDeb> Could not load module: error in line 72 Attribute Error: SimMstateContener has no attribute 'InfoDialog'
Apr 07 18:36:08 <cosmos2> hello
Apr 07 18:36:13 <cosmos2> is shr debian based?
Apr 07 18:36:59 <PaulFertser> cosmos2: no, it's OE
Apr 07 18:38:46 <cosmos2> ok
Apr 07 18:52:36 <Sicelo> i'm happy sound works. will have to look into the modem from now on
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