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Dec 20 10:02:32 <JaMa> is mparchet just trying to keep developers busy by asking billions of questions?
Dec 20 10:14:05 <rah> I think he is a man with problems
Dec 20 10:14:58 <rah> I'm guessing he has very little life outside of emailing the openmoko mailing lists
Dec 20 10:15:23 <rah> what I don't understand is why people keep spoon-feeding him answers
Dec 20 10:59:15 <radekp> only good thing is that we know that mailing list is working
Dec 20 11:02:00 <rah> lol
Dec 20 11:05:53 <DocScrutinizer05> >>...QtMoko is really a good OS and I'm surprised that Nokia stop its development.
Dec 20 11:05:55 <DocScrutinizer05> >>Adrien
Dec 20 11:05:56 <DocScrutinizer05> Errrr rrright
Dec 20 11:08:47 <DocScrutinizer05> no surprise Nokia has such a poor reputation, given it gets blamed for all the evil in this worls ;-)
Dec 20 11:08:59 <DocScrutinizer05> world, even
Dec 20 11:09:58 <DocScrutinizer05> btw, why did nokia stop development of ALSA?
Dec 20 11:10:24 <DocScrutinizer05> and I heard they stopped development of hurd as well
Dec 20 11:12:01 <DocScrutinizer05> but first and foremost: why the heck did they stop paying me??
Dec 20 11:12:22 <DocScrutinizer05> ;-)
Dec 20 11:12:30 <JaMa> hehe
Dec 20 14:31:27 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer05: Nokia bought Trolltech in 2008 and shortly after QtMobile/QtExtended was abandoned and then Radek picked it up.
Dec 20 14:32:09 <PaulFertser> Afaik
Dec 20 14:33:12 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm, may be correct, but somehow I doubt it
Dec 20 14:33:34 <DocScrutinizer05> QtMobile still evolves
Dec 20 14:33:45 <DocScrutinizer05> QtE is probably dead though
Dec 20 14:33:47 <PaulFertser> I think radekp can clarify things for us :)
Dec 20 14:35:18 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer05: btw, you and Nicolas are doing amazing job on Neo900, I'm watching the issue tracker.
Dec 20 14:35:44 <DocScrutinizer05> :-)
Dec 20 14:35:54 <DocScrutinizer05> though: Nikolaus
Dec 20 14:36:49 <PaulFertser> Err, sorry :)
Dec 20 14:57:40 <DocScrutinizer05> PaulFertser: you might want to follow discussion and news on talk.maemo.org
Dec 20 14:58:09 <DocScrutinizer05> the few tickets on tracker are actually not really representing what's going on
Dec 20 14:58:32 <DocScrutinizer05> also I must say I hate that tracker, it's retarded
Dec 20 14:59:31 <DocScrutinizer05> it's a poor imitation of a tracker
Dec 20 15:01:07 <DocScrutinizer05> I had a pretty hard time to find out THAT I can change severity and class of a ticket, and I still dunno which of the given predefined terms to use, or if i rather should make up my own tags
Dec 20 15:02:26 <DocScrutinizer05> on a concurrent discussion in osmocom: http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/remotely-managed-m2m-sim-134429
Dec 20 15:02:56 <DocScrutinizer05> and from that to mandatory GSM in every car, and how to fry those with microwave pulses
Dec 20 15:03:06 <DocScrutinizer05> ;-)
Dec 20 15:03:55 <DocScrutinizer05> PaulFertser: when you hear about some military surplus radar equipment, let me know please! we might need it soonish
Dec 20 15:04:24 <DocScrutinizer05> ideally on 1800, 1900MHz
Dec 20 15:04:52 <DocScrutinizer05> and PPO > 20kW
Dec 20 15:05:48 <DocScrutinizer05> a nice small convenient highly directional antenna would be icing on top
Dec 20 15:06:09 <DocScrutinizer05> ;-)
Dec 20 17:00:21 <radekp> PaulFertser: IIRC it was Qtopia, after Nokia bought Trolltech it was renamed QtExtended and then it was abandoned, now it's QtMoko - because Nokia still has Qtopia/QtExtended trademarks...
Dec 20 17:03:55 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer05: in fact, I'm a bit involved, several tiny stm32 boards with my small software is used on some radar station, I do not know any real details though.
Dec 20 17:04:16 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer05: what about physically ripping out unneeded equipment from cars?
Dec 20 17:15:58 <plotr> if you're talking about mandatory gsm in cars - I'm afraid that it would be made legally equal to removing serial number from vehicle parts
Dec 20 17:16:31 <plotr> which at best gives you $$ fine or police will force you to part with your vehicle
Dec 20 17:19:47 <PaulFertser> You're so pessimistic
Dec 20 17:20:07 <plotr> I've been born in Russia :)
Dec 20 17:20:11 <PaulFertser> I know
Dec 20 18:57:04 <DocScrutinizer05> I talking about helping other car owners on the right way. Would be hard to convince then to let their GPS&GSM module get ripped out
Dec 20 18:58:05 <DocScrutinizer05> driving by on a highway under a bridge with you and your MW-PPO 1.8GHz pulser on top of the bridge though
Dec 20 18:58:43 <DocScrutinizer05> I think you could "repair" up to 3000 cars per hour
Dec 20 18:58:52 <jake42> :D
Dec 20 19:02:31 <DocScrutinizer05> I got told there are 3.5mio cars that will get this system, in Finland. So that makes 5 such equipments, 200h each. Done ;-)
Dec 20 19:04:18 <jake42> everybody's got a (supposedly)smartphone with them anyway
Dec 20 19:04:28 <jake42> so why bother about a tracked car..
Dec 20 19:06:05 <jake42> though depending on your setup you might fry any other hw in the car too :)
Dec 20 19:18:33 <DocScrutinizer05> well, the mobile phones, yes. The other hardware should be decently shielded
Dec 20 19:19:03 <DocScrutinizer05> so probably we should use 1.5GHz and fry the GPS
Dec 20 19:19:25 <DocScrutinizer05> dnag that still ruins the mobile smartphones too
Dec 20 19:20:53 <DocScrutinizer05> seems the only decent solution is a virus
Dec 20 19:25:22 <jake42> would also get you out of line of fire as it's not required to be there in person ;-)
Dec 20 19:26:11 <jake42> anyway, with Car2X there's a fun time coming for sure
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