**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 13 02:59:59 2014 Jul 13 07:04:29 that's actually a problem. Caused by eagle deficiencies Jul 13 07:14:25 it been one of the main reasns why I asked for the original eagle project files several times, even during development Jul 13 07:14:47 I dunno if Nik meanwhile published the eagle files of GTA04 Jul 13 07:27:19 GNUtoo-irssi: if you can find the gta04.sch eagle file somewhere, you can use the free eagle trial version to view it and search it all you like Jul 13 07:28:22 the gta04.pdf schematics are really pretty hard to use for anything Jul 13 07:31:53 I wonder if there's maybe some eagle script (plugin/makro) that can embed proper search-able strings into a pdf during export. The genuine eagle way to print text is by using "wires" resp polygons and those are quite obviously not searchable by anything except a specialized OCR maybe Jul 13 15:18:05 DocScrutinizer05: thanks, maybe someone has already eagle then(eagle is proprietary...) Jul 13 15:20:30 eagle has a free trial version Jul 13 15:20:54 (even for linux) Jul 13 15:21:18 (installs without root permissions into user's $HOME) Jul 13 15:22:10 cadsoft.com iirc Jul 13 15:22:49 http://www.cadsoftusa.com/download-eagle/ Jul 13 15:25:14 didn't he specifically refuse to release eagle files saying PDF is good enough? Jul 13 15:25:25 actually the free trial version is the one existing version without licence key Jul 13 15:25:39 errm yep iirc he did Jul 13 15:26:11 though this been about the layout particularly Jul 13 15:26:28 maybe the .sch got released Jul 13 15:27:13 I dunno Jul 13 15:27:48 actually I couldn't see what for anybody would need the .brd Jul 13 15:28:06 what is the .brd? Jul 13 15:28:26 unless you want to start your own project and use the existing layout to copycat the PCB Jul 13 15:28:44 .brd = eagly board aka layout project file Jul 13 15:29:01 .sch = schematics Jul 13 15:30:03 you can open a .sch just fine, even when it has multiple sheets, with eagly "demo2 version Jul 13 15:30:10 s/2/"/ Jul 13 15:30:11 DocScrutinizer05 meant: you can open a .sch just fine, even when it has multiple sheets, with eagly "demo" version Jul 13 15:30:27 you however cannot edit much Jul 13 15:31:00 demo is limited to create / edit one sheet only Jul 13 15:31:46 I think that's pretty fair Jul 13 15:34:01 The openmoko schematics were made searchable by lindi-_ afterward Jul 13 15:34:12 is that easy to do Jul 13 15:34:17 I guess it was done by hand!!! Jul 13 15:34:20 or was it by you Jul 13 15:34:20 nope, the component pacement Jul 13 15:34:24 and then hosted by lindi? Jul 13 15:34:29 and that been lindi-_ Jul 13 15:34:36 ok Jul 13 15:35:02 the schematics been searchable when exported the right way form MG PADS Jul 13 15:35:21 ah ok Jul 13 15:36:14 we had non-searchable pdfs as well, I think it was some nasty crap with windows pdf creator plugin or something Jul 13 15:36:30 nfc Jul 13 15:36:39 windoze... you know :-/ Jul 13 15:37:49 ok Jul 13 15:38:17 thanks! Jul 13 15:38:23 anyway PADS prints real fonts into its schematics. Jul 13 15:38:26 else is there a list of exported pads Jul 13 15:38:34 like easily accessible test pads Jul 13 15:38:45 I was looking to use some pads as SPI Jul 13 15:38:51 In eagle, you can select proportional, fixed, and vector. But it's all just vector in the end Jul 13 15:39:07 The other issue is that the GTA04 SPI is... 1.8v Jul 13 15:39:14 (I need 3.3v) Jul 13 15:39:26 well, then you need a level shifter Jul 13 15:39:31 yes Jul 13 15:39:48 but I wonder if the pads are accesible in the first place Jul 13 15:40:00 sorry, I don't have access to the GTA04 schematics Jul 13 15:40:01 like there were some pads near the serial port connector Jul 13 15:40:04 ok Jul 13 15:40:09 and in GTA02? Jul 13 15:40:34 in GTA02 you got fine usable pdfs, I hope ;-) Jul 13 15:40:49 I take pride in those Jul 13 15:40:51 ok Jul 13 15:40:54 I'll look Jul 13 15:40:56 thanks Jul 13 15:41:10 yes the ones hosted by lindi are searchable Jul 13 15:41:38 http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/schematics/ Jul 13 15:42:14 thanks Jul 13 15:48:14 yw **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 14 02:59:59 2014