**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 15 03:00:00 2015 Jan 15 06:13:02 DocScrutinizer05: FYI such renderings are clearly derived works of the 3D datasets Jan 15 08:04:25 pabs3: that's irrelevant Jan 15 08:05:25 the question is if they are covered by the original copyright/license, and who defined this and if it's legally binding Jan 15 08:10:02 you can't even prove that the rendering is based on the original 3D data and not on some original work somebody did to exactly copy the look and design of the Neo case which is not subject of the copyright discussed here Jan 15 08:14:20 the letter is not covered by the copyright in the spherical printhead of the typesetter. Maybe the font is copyrighted but that's "just incidentally" what is on the printhead, or the font is free and public domain and still the printhead is covered by copyright. Anyway the printhead doesn't create a copyright in the letter it printed Jan 15 08:15:26 a photo of a Neo case is not copyright protected. Neither can be a rendering Jan 15 08:16:12 heck, OM not even claimed copyright in actual cases built using the 3D data Jan 15 08:17:15 we actually encouraged companies and private persons to build cases using the data OM provided. How could we think we had a copyright in a rendering? Jan 15 08:19:50 and any GPL and share-alike license is meant to guarantee that the source of derived work (aka "patches") is made available under the same license the original data/source been licensed under. *NOT* to establish any rights in the result of using the original or patched/improved sourcecode Jan 15 08:21:09 result == the product, in this case renderings, 3D printouts, even commercially built molds and the physical cases built with them Jan 15 08:22:07 obviously all those are "derived worj2 since they base on the original material, but they are ane abstraction level further and thus not covered by the (C) anymore Jan 15 08:22:23 work* Jan 15 08:39:24 a summary describing the plot of a novel is not covered by the copyright the novel itself is published under Jan 15 11:46:44 What kind of ram is used on gta04 board? How much time is needed for it to wipe completely in shutdown state? Jan 15 12:51:51 ñf Jan 15 12:51:55 ~nf Jan 15 12:51:55 The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at ~NF2. For help see ~NF-help) - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~RL - - - NEWSFLASH [2013-11-23] no news. Sorry **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 15 22:43:37 2015 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 15 22:48:32 2015 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 15 23:02:32 2015 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 16 02:59:58 2015