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Feb 06 08:15:49 <mickeyl> DocScrutinizer: alright. that may not mean we can't update glib though, right? (provided it's downward compatible with the stuff that we can't replace in fremantle)
Feb 06 09:16:09 <DocScrutinizer51> mickeyl: right. the CSSU guys and particularly freemangordon (Ivailo?) already work for updating libs on maemo, since some stuff needs bugfixes anyway. I'm out of the loop regarding this, but there were some caveats
Feb 06 09:17:16 <DocScrutinizer51> mickeyl: ideally /join #maemo-ssu and/or ask (/query) freemangordon
Feb 06 09:18:24 <DocScrutinizer51> also maybe join #neo900 where some of the most active maemo devels also hang out. 
Feb 06 09:20:25 <DocScrutinizer51> I'd also like to chat with you in private about zou giving support fort fremantle porting task force, particularly using FSO for replacing nasty closed Nokia stuff
Feb 06 09:21:17 <DocScrutinizer51> I'm just mobile, so chatting is a tad awkward
Feb 06 09:21:38 <DocScrutinizer51> I!ll ping you later
Feb 06 09:37:28 <DocScrutinizer51> -fptf
Feb 06 09:37:35 <DocScrutinizer51> grr
Feb 06 09:37:47 <DocScrutinizer51> -#maemo fptf
Feb 06 09:37:52 <DocScrutinizer51> ehh
Feb 06 09:38:04 <DocScrutinizer51> ~fptf
Feb 06 09:38:04 <apt> somebody said fptf was the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308
Feb 06 09:38:17 <DocScrutinizer51> mickeyl: ^
Feb 06 09:38:37 <DocScrutinizer51> ~cssu
Feb 06 09:38:38 <apt> well, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update)
Feb 06 09:40:06 <DocScrutinizer51> while cssu stays quite close to original maemo fremantle (maemo5), in fptf we're free to redefine some parts of how system is tailored
Feb 06 09:41:49 <DocScrutinizer51> fptf shaold still be ABI compatible to original userland, so original apps still work on Neo900, but for stuff like libs and daemons we can reconsider, for some we need to
Feb 06 23:51:26 <arossdotme> is shr or qtmoko in a better state of usability? or which one is up to date?
Feb 06 23:51:59 <arossdotme> got my self a gta04 now so i'm deciding which os to put on it first :)
Feb 06 23:52:32 <arossdotme> i assume i can duel boot replicant with shr
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