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Jun 24 06:34:16 <pabs3> https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-and-samsung-form-strategic-alliance-deliver-next-generation-mobile-solutions-enterprise
Jun 24 14:24:43 <DocScrutinizer05> OUUUUUUUUUUUUCH
Jun 24 14:25:23 <DocScrutinizer05> now you at least see why they push systemd
Jun 24 14:26:03 <DocScrutinizer05> with the strategic perspective to take over the whole system with a trusted computing environment
Jun 24 14:26:26 <DocScrutinizer05> ~systemd
Jun 24 14:26:27 <apt> systemd cabal: a bunch of people (Lennart Poettering, Kay Sievers, Harald Hoyer, Daniel Mack, Tom Gundersen, David Herrmann) who want to turn linux into their wet dream perverted version of windows-me-too: http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html -- Rumor has it that 2016 systemd will have replaced kernel, or see https://devuan.org  http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd
Jun 24 14:27:34 <DocScrutinizer05> >>On these systems, you don't install or remove packages, you get a defined set of files, and besides installing or updating the system there are no ways how to change the set of tools you get.<<
Jun 24 14:28:14 <DocScrutinizer05> that's not a description of a bad example, that'S what they're aiming at
Jun 24 14:39:21 <DocScrutinizer05> don't get fooled by their claims, the systemd cabal actually doesn't aim at that generic solution for everybody, they aim at lock in and depriving users from their freedom of choice, in a multitude of aspects
Jun 24 16:18:58 <paulk-collins> hey there
Jun 24 16:19:08 <paulk-collins> I'm trying to reflash my om debug board
Jun 24 16:19:27 <paulk-collins> I used http://people.openmoko.org/laforge/misc/debug_board_v2/ftdi_eeprom/
Jun 24 16:19:34 <paulk-collins> but what I have is the debug board v3
Jun 24 16:20:42 <paulk-collins> DocScrutinizer05, any idea where I could fine the firmware for it?
Jun 24 16:51:12 <DocScrutinizer05> umm, sorry, never occurred to me that the ftdi chip has a firmware
Jun 24 16:52:03 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm neither sure if debubo v2 and v3 have different chips
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