**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 07 02:59:59 2016 Jan 07 08:24:42 * rahc kicks pabs3 Jan 07 08:25:03 pabs3: who says SHR has failed? Jan 07 08:37:37 News and Blog pages make it look like a completely abandoned distro for a start Jan 07 08:39:15 likewise for the mailing lists :) Jan 07 08:46:33 pabs3: I just posted a patch to the -devel list last week! Jan 07 08:47:50 and it was 1.5 years since the last post to the list... Jan 07 08:48:42 pfft Jan 07 08:48:50 it was sleeping, not dead Jan 07 08:49:03 I asked JaMa and he still tests the builds apparently Jan 07 08:50:07 so it only *appeared* to be dead Jan 07 08:50:52 and now you can see with this new patch, it is definitely not dead Jan 07 08:50:54 There. Jan 07 08:51:23 :) Jan 07 09:01:25 rahc: anyway, it appears you missed the ;) Jan 07 09:01:26 are you still rebasing on top of oe-core? Jan 07 09:01:39 I clearly wasn't serious :) Jan 07 09:02:09 or the shr layer still works "by chance"? Jan 07 09:06:22 pabs3: whereas clearly I was ;-) Jan 07 09:07:52 pabs3: although possibly you've touched a nerve there :-) Jan 07 09:08:21 bencoh: it's still on top of oe-core Jan 07 09:08:31 bencoh: what else would it be on top of? Jan 07 09:20:01 I dunno, an old oe release maybe :) Jan 07 09:20:14 (s/release/branchH) Jan 07 09:21:26 hmm what happened to all the info hosted on the FSO wiki, now that FSO has moved? Jan 07 09:34:39 bencoh: based on archive.org and a quick web search, subpages of http://www.freesmartphone.org/ Jan 07 09:35:01 not sure if everything got moved though Jan 07 09:38:56 bencoh: ah, well it's not the *latest* oe-core, but it is oe-core :-) Jan 07 09:39:02 :) Jan 07 09:39:18 * rahc is intending to send a pull request to bring it up to the latest Jan 07 09:39:39 good question about the wiki though, lots of links on the SHR website have broken now Jan 07 09:39:51 s/the wiki/the FSO wiki/ Jan 07 09:39:51 pabs3: there is a significant amount of doc on the new fso.org, but a lot of it is missing Jan 07 09:39:51 rahc meant: good question about the FSO wiki though, lots of links on the SHR website have broken now Jan 07 09:40:00 mickeyl? Jan 07 09:40:08 like the hw-specific stuff Jan 07 09:40:13 indeed Jan 07 09:40:49 https://web.archive.org/web/20140805101830/http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Phonet_Implementation for instance (shr-project.org points to the original) Jan 07 09:42:16 morning Jan 07 09:44:00 https://github.com/freesmartphone/freesmartphone.github.io/tree/devel/fso-mediawiki-export Jan 07 09:44:12 this is an export of the last state of the wiki before the machine crashed Jan 07 09:45:55 ah, so I guess it could be restored at some point .... thx :) Jan 07 09:47:16 cool Jan 07 09:48:39 yep, either in wiki form or by enhancing the site on github where it's atm. Jan 07 09:48:54 i'd prefer the latter, since it's very hard to fight wiki spam these days Jan 07 09:49:04 aye :-/ Jan 07 09:49:36 or read-only wiki maybe? Jan 07 09:49:55 (and/or with manual account creation) Jan 07 09:50:44 manual account creation is best IMHO Jan 07 09:50:50 I do that with http://powervr.gnu.org.ve/ Jan 07 11:19:05 * pabs3 wonders if IMG are still looking for devs to write a FLOSS PowerVR driver Jan 07 11:24:29 were they looking? Jan 07 11:24:41 I though they were doing it themselves Jan 07 11:24:53 s/though/thought/ Jan 07 11:24:53 rahc meant: I thought they were doing it themselves Jan 07 11:27:04 https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/37h2a9/i_work_for_imagination_technologies_mips_powervr/crn232h Jan 07 11:47:55 I'm curious what that guy has to say now Jan 07 11:50:50 anyone on twitter? Jan 07 11:50:51 https://twitter.com/@alexvoica Jan 07 11:59:16 rahc: not sure, but I saw that they were looking on Phoronix Jan 07 11:59:40 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=IMG-Hiring-For-Open-Driver Jan 07 12:01:40 non-JS version of their job page https://archive.is/wCne1 Jan 07 12:03:05 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Imagination-Still-No-OSS-Dev Jan 07 12:21:32 hmm, interesting Jan 07 12:25:20 I'm surprised you didn't hear about that? Jan 07 12:25:45 I think I did actually Jan 07 12:25:59 I'm sure I've seen this page before Jan 07 12:26:40 that's not to say that they don't have other linux people though Jan 07 12:29:12 ack Jan 07 13:02:27 there was a mail sent to the gnu/pvr project mailing-list Jan 07 13:02:48 but it didnt lead anywhere Jan 07 13:09:44 bencoh: erm.. email about what? Jan 07 13:10:55 also, I would point out that it isn't a GNU or FSF project Jan 07 13:11:10 some GNU people in Venezuela provide hosting but that's it Jan 07 13:12:22 http://listas.gnu.org.ve/pipermail/powervr-devel/2015-July/000155.html Jan 07 13:13:59 pabs3: but where would bencoh expect that to lead? Jan 07 13:14:26 it's just another link to the jobs page that was posted in many different places Jan 07 13:14:53 I expect bencoh expected that to lead to someone on the list to apply for the job and be working on the driver by now Jan 07 13:15:28 I didnt expect anything, just answering to the "wonders if IMG are still looking for devs to write a FLOSS PowerVR driver" Jan 07 13:17:52 and saying that there was a thread about this at that time, and it showed that they didn't really have a job open (not for this at least) Jan 07 13:19:32 erm.. eh? Jan 07 13:19:58 how does there being a mailing list thread about the job offer show that imgtec didn't really have a job open? Jan 07 13:26:04 I dunno Jan 07 13:26:15 I don't understand what you mean then Jan 07 13:26:56 bencoh: what did you mean when you said "and it showed that they didn't really have a job open"? Jan 07 13:27:30 trying to find the thread on that topic Jan 07 13:28:48 but what I gather (more or less) at that time was that if there was a job open, it wasn't about write a FLOSS driver Jan 07 13:29:29 (a completely opensource one, I mean) Jan 07 13:36:45 on a more interesting note: http://www.lowrisc.org/blog/2016/01/third-risc-v-workshop-day-one http://www.lowrisc.org/blog/2016/01/third-risc-v-workshop-day-two Jan 07 14:23:11 "Drafting a new license for the ISA ‘combining the best of BSD, GPL and so on’." Jan 07 14:23:19 ruh roh :-/ Jan 07 14:29:14 "Coreboot on RISC-V" Jan 07 14:29:29 it's a freedom wet dream :-) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 08 02:59:58 2016