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May 13 08:34:41 <rah> https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/42728.html#cmt1685224
May 13 08:35:27 <rah> here someone presents their work on solving Garrett's three critical issues, and in response he says "Nobody I know is using Matrix, which means it's really not convenient."
May 13 08:35:55 <rah> yet in his article, his question is "Is there really no way for us to work as a community to develop something that's all three?"
May 13 08:36:08 <rah> not 'Is there something that's all three which already exists?'
May 13 08:36:25 * rah boggles
May 13 08:50:49 <rah> https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issuecomment-217339450
May 13 19:57:55 <antrik> rah: the point is that what makes TextSecure/Signal viable is the builtin SMS fallback. new services, no matter how sound they are otherwise, have very little chance of becoming a viable option for the masses without this simple feature
May 13 19:58:29 <Sicelo> what sms fallback?
May 13 20:08:13 <antrik> I haven't used it myself, so I don't know the details -- but I know from various sources that it's a crucial aspect
May 13 20:08:58 <Sicelo> you sure you're not confusing it with configuration via SMS?
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